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That's right, Air America has wethered all the crap the cons and neocons had to throw, and now they're coming out on top...

"NEW YORK – August 4, 2005 – Air America Radio announced today that its affiliate base has successfully increased its cumulative listening audience from 1.3 million Persons 12+ (Arbitron Nationwide, Fall 2004) to a Cume of 3.1 million Persons 12+. The Network also continues to grow in key markets including: Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Phoenix, Portland, Ore., Cincinnati, Denver, Honolulu, Memphis and Miami, according to the Arbitron Spring survey."

Most markets report better ratings than any of the conservative talkers too. So, cons, take it like the "men" you claim to be. Air America is here to stay! :-P

Good for them, who ever they are.

Well, healthy competition is always good. Best of luck to them.

But wait, some guy who did something wrong in the past was involved with Air America. They're all criminals! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

So, cons, take it like the "men" you claim to be. Air America is here to stay! :-P

Yeah as long as they can continue to embelzzle monies out of children's funds.

Odd how quickly that story died down but when ever a "conservative" does something wrong it gets a good 4-8 weeks coverage minimum

Yeah as long as they can continue to embelzzle monies out of children's funds.

Odd how quickly that story died down but when ever a "conservative" does something wrong it gets a good 4-8 weeks coverage minimum

Why be so bitter about it? Swallow your pill like a good boy. Excuses, excuses, excuses. What next? George Soros is somehow braocasting a mind control signal through the Air America broadcast?

GROW UP!

Yeah as long as they can continue to embelzzle monies out of children's funds.

Odd how quickly that story died down but when ever a "conservative" does something wrong it gets a good 4-8 weeks coverage minimum


maybe because it wasn't a story in the first place and the radio station said that although they weren't directly responsible for the deal they were going to pay it back.

speaking of stories that died down, what ever happened to the very important Plame Out story? quiet you with the silly liberal media myth.

maybe because it wasn't a story in the first place and the radio station said that although they weren't directly responsible for the deal they were going to pay it back.

speaking of stories that died down, what ever happened to the very important Plame Out story? quiet you with the silly liberal media myth.

Latest I heard on that story was that an old Yale classmate of GWB was going to become the supervisor of the man in charage of the investigation. So, count on it dying in its tracks, I.E. MORE GOOD NEWS FOR THE BIG GUY! Makes me want to vomit!

Yeah as long as they can continue to embelzzle monies out of children's funds.

Odd how quickly that story died down but when ever a "conservative" does something wrong it gets a good 4-8 weeks coverage minimum

Don't worry, it hasn't died down. It is merely simmering and becoming more interesting.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003291.htm

I really should update the "Air Enron" thread with the latest posts sometime, shouldn't I? ;)

Don't worry, it hasn't died down. It is merely simmering and becoming more interesting.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003291.htm

I really should update the "Air Enron" thread with the latest posts sometime, shouldn't I? ;)


Ok, the funny thing about this is that you're referring people to a post by Michelle Malkin. This is the same woman who, as an Asian American, said it was a good idea to inter american citizens of japanese descent during WWII, and also carried the banner for the stupidity that the swifties were peddaling about John Kerry (she even went on television and tried to convince actual reporters that Kerry shot HIMSELF in vietnam). Nothing she says is anywhere near the realm of reality, much less the truth, yet you bought it. What's more sad? That she has to say things like this in order to serve a twisted agenda, or that you believe it?

I assumed you were talking about CIA Operations in Laos during the Vietnam War.

Not exactly Air America news, but in Minneapolis, Rush and Hannity have seen the bottoms drop out of their ratings to such an extent that ClearChannel is moving them from their AM station to an FM station. Rush dropped something like 43% while Hannity lost more than 60%.

Ok, the funny thing about this is that you're referring people to a post by Michelle Malkin. This is the same woman who, as an Asian American, said it was a good idea to inter american citizens of japanese descent during WWII, and also carried the banner for the stupidity that the swifties were peddaling about John Kerry (she even went on television and tried to convince actual reporters that Kerry shot HIMSELF in vietnam). Nothing she says is anywhere near the realm of reality, much less the truth, yet you bought it. What's more sad? That she has to say things like this in order to serve a twisted agenda, or that you believe it?

Yes, there's definitly a reason that her last name means Satan's messenger. It also means a pubic wig for someone who's gone bald down there, but I think that one's just a conincidence.

Yes, there's definitly a reason that her last name means Satan's messenger. It also means a pubic wig for someone who's gone bald down there, but I think that one's just a conincidence.

While I appreciate the humor, the pubic wig is called a merkin, not a malkin. It was often used in years gone by when someone had to shave their short curlies because of infestation problems.

...well, now that I've sucked all the fun out of this thread...do carry on.

iTunes streams their broadcasts, so I listen to the shows every so often. These talk shows are hosted by the angriest bunch of folks I have ever heard on the radio. At least, some of the conservative talk shows are entertaining. Not Hannity, or Savage, but Rush and Boortz are both tolerable.

Randi Rhodes(sp?) and Al Franken just have a huge chip on their shoulders and won't let it go. I don't hear many opposing callers, either.

Success for Air America should do one thing. That is to cool Democratic/Liberal plans to re-institute the fairness doctrine. We should wish Air America much success and many more children's funds so that they can stay in business.

iTunes streams their broadcasts, so I listen to the shows every so often. These talk shows are hosted by the angriest bunch of folks I have ever heard on the radio. At least, some of the conservative talk shows are entertaining. Not Hannity, or Savage, but Rush and Boortz are both tolerable.

Randi Rhodes(sp?) and Al Franken just have a huge chip on their shoulders and won't let it go. I don't hear many opposing callers, either.

Success for Air America should do one thing. That is to cool Democratic/Liberal plans to re-institute the fairness doctrine. We should wish Air America much success and many more children's funds so that they can stay in business.


I've made a point of listening to Rush once in a while. The closest he comes to being entertaining is being a rediculous caricature of a conservative. Al Franken is hardly a paragon of baseless anger. He has a regular segment in which his conservative friend of many years tries to defend the stupid things that Limbaugh says.

I suppose I can see how you might think that he's an angry guy, his show is premised on one thing. His contention that the entire conservative agenda is based on nothing but lies. He defends his thesis by presenting daily evidence of new lies from the right every single day of the week (if you don't count the weekend as part of the week). Your only evidence against him is that because he disagrees with conservatives then he must be angry with them, if he's angry with them, then he doesn't have any merit to his arguments. Kinda silly.

Randi OTOH. Ya, she's an angry chick. But no more so than Hannity or O'Reilly. In fact, a lot less so than O'Reilly. And she's far less full of shit. Which probably accounts for a great deal of Hannity's and O'Reilly's anger, they need more bran.

I've made a point of listening to Rush once in a while. The closest he comes to being entertaining is being a rediculous caricature of a conservative. Al Franken is hardly a paragon of baseless anger. He has a regular segment in which his conservative friend of many years tries to defend the stupid things that Limbaugh says.

I suppose I can see how you might think that he's an angry guy, his show is premised on one thing. His contention that the entire conservative agenda is based on nothing but lies. He defends his thesis by presenting daily evidence of new lies from the right every single day of the week (if you don't count the weekend as part of the week). Your only evidence against him is that because he disagrees with conservatives then he must be angry with them, if he's angry with them, then he doesn't have any merit to his arguments. Kinda silly.

Randi OTOH. Ya, she's an angry chick. But no more so than Hannity or O'Reilly. In fact, a lot less so than O'Reilly. And she's far less full of shit. Which probably accounts for a great deal of Hannity's and O'Reilly's anger, they need more bran.
I've quit watching O'Reilly. I can't stand the preaching that he does. The only time his efforts stand out is when he is talking about Jesse Jackson. That man needs some investigating.

Mainly, I just don't care for Franken's tone. I haven't heard the segments that you mention -- work precludes listening from start to end.

Still, don't you notice that there is a lack of opposing views in the callers, compared to conservative talk? Boortz will put contradictory callers on the air ahead of any others. I just don't hear that many call any of the Air America shows. Maybe the conservative callers just don't think enough of Air America to put up with the waits?

quiet you with the silly liberal media myth.
never did go with that particular little concept.

If it really was a liberal media then I would hear on my radio all the time about the ecconomy going up unemployment going down, first time homes sales going up, stock market going up more than down.

(she even went on television and tried to convince actual reporters that Kerry shot HIMSELF in vietnam).
I remember that interview and that's not what was said. That's what Kerry supporters took it to mean.

What was said was that his shooting caused the wound....not by direct shot in the arm but because he shot at an object on shore from the boat and the resulting shrapnel from that is what caused the would. A self caused (although not self inflicted which implies intent) wound

Ok, the funny thing about this is that you're referring people to a post by Michelle Malkin. This is the same woman who, as an Asian American, said it was a good idea to inter american citizens of japanese descent during WWII, and also carried the banner for the stupidity that the swifties were peddaling about John Kerry (she even went on television and tried to convince actual reporters that Kerry shot HIMSELF in vietnam). Nothing she says is anywhere near the realm of reality, much less the truth, yet you bought it. What's more sad? That she has to say things like this in order to serve a twisted agenda, or that you believe it?

So how for long have you been of the impression that Asian-Americans don't have the right to be reporters? Or is it merely that you don't like women? :rolleyes:

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2005/08/inside-air-america-investigative-blog.html

"A bigger, unexplored question, is whether Sheldon and Anita Drobny have any business raising additional capital for acquisitions, if they can't immediately afford to repay the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club in full for the $875,000 in diverted taxpayer funds it "borrowed" last year?

And, why won't they repay Multicultural Broadcasting $255,518 in damages awarded in last November's default judgment? Why is Multicultural forced to press Piquant/Progress/Air America to collect their money?"

I've quit watching O'Reilly. I can't stand the preaching that he does. The only time his efforts stand out is when he is talking about Jesse Jackson. That man needs some investigating.

Mainly, I just don't care for Franken's tone. I haven't heard the segments that you mention -- work precludes listening from start to end.

Still, don't you notice that there is a lack of opposing views in the callers, compared to conservative talk? Boortz will put contradictory callers on the air ahead of any others. I just don't hear that many call any of the Air America shows. Maybe the conservative callers just don't think enough of Air America to put up with the waits?

Well, I have an hour long drive that usually has me catching the first hour of Franken and the last hour of Rhodes. I've never heard of Boortz, but I've listened to Limbaugh and Mike Savage to get a sense of conservative radio, as well as the TV shows of those who have radio equivalents. I refuse to listen to O'Reilly or Hannity on the radio because I'd never get the stink out of my car.

Rhodes has a lot of conservative callers if you listen to her for any length of time. Franken doesn't tend to attract the same number of random conservative callers because he's not as confrontational. He does go out of his way to court those calls however. He even does an occaisonal segment called "Good Ribbin'" in which someone from the show will go to a well known bbq resteraunt that has a large conservative patronage. Then he will speak to the customers and discuss their views. As an indication of how non-confrontational he is, he ends half of those calls with "lovely person" when I'm listening thinking "that person was an idiot and an asshole."

But if you want to hear lots of dissenting opinion however, listen to Jerry Springer's morning show (occaisionally I have to leave early). He get's a lot of conservative callers, and his debating is so anemic it almost puts me to sleep (of course, I only listen to him when I have to get up early). It's really the total opposite of his TV show. Except for some of the conservative callers ;)

AirAmerica is Awesome and it Blows the Hate Media out of the Water

AirAmerica is Awesome and it Blows the Hate Media out of the Water
please...the left sound just as angry and hateful as the right. Out of all the shows I've ever heard only Jim Bohannan actually sounds calm and plesant...oh and Kim Komando.

I listen to Tony Snow most mornings and he's pretty good most of the time. If I listen to Rush it's to fill in the time till Neal Boortz come on. He's my favorite. He slams both sides.

I would touch Savage with a ten meter caddle prod. NOW there's angry! Has anyone heard Jerry Doyle's (Gerabaldi from B5) show yet. Not too bad in my opinion. a kind of tuned down Savage. Still angry at times, just not as much

That's right, Air America has wethered all the crap the cons and neocons had to throw, and now they're coming out on top...
So, cons, take it like the "men" you claim to be. Air America is here to stay! :-P

Who the fuck cares? Air America's shitcasts don't affect me any.

AirAmerica is Awesome and it Blows the Hate Media out of the Water
Air America is hate radio. Randi Rhodes advocated the murder of President Bush. This is the kind of bullshit that makes me ashamed to be a democrat.

please...the left sound just as angry and hateful as the right. Out of all the shows I've ever heard only Jim Bohannan actually sounds calm and plesant...oh and Kim Komando.

I listen to Tony Snow most mornings and he's pretty good most of the time. If I listen to Rush it's to fill in the time till Neal Boortz come on. He's my favorite. He slams both sides.

I would touch Savage with a ten meter caddle prod. NOW there's angry! Has anyone heard Jerry Doyle's (Gerabaldi from B5) show yet. Not too bad in my opinion. a kind of tuned down Savage. Still angry at times, just not as much


Yup.
Al Franken takes clips of Bill O'Reilly making statements that are false, such as claiming that he caused a boycott of French goods that was reported by the Paris Business Revue to have cost the French economy three billion dollars and then Franken goes and maliciously points out that there's no such thing as the Paris Business Revue and that French imports to the US actually increased in the time that O'Reilly claimed that they plummeted.

That's exactly the same as O'Reilly calling everyone at Air America a traitor and calling the very existence of a liberal radio network treasonous, and calling for the Feds to take them away in chains.

Al Franken beligerantly claimed that O'Reilly beat him in the ratings slightly in the overall demographics, but the big money demographic of 18-54 slightly favored Franken, though Limbaugh beat them both hands down.

That's just like how O'Reilly said that he beat Franken in the ratings "handily" and that Franken is just like Hitler's propaganda minister claiming to have gotten better ratings.

The two are like the opposite sides of the same coin. :rolleyes:

Antre_Travarious']Air America is hate radio. Randi Rhodes advocated the murder of President Bush. This is the kind of bullshit that makes me ashamed to be a democrat.

When the hell did she say that? I've heard some of the hosts on Air America point out that if they were to make such a statement they'd be shut down, but people on the right like G. Gordon Liddy get a pass for telling his listners to "aim for the head" when trying to shoot Federal Troopers and the same with Robertson for calling for the assassination of a foreign leader. That's not calling for the murder of President Bush.

Yup.
Al Franken takes clips of Bill O'Reilly making statements that are false, such as claiming that he caused a boycott of French goods that was reported by the Paris Business Revue to have cost the French economy three billion dollars and then Franken goes and maliciously points out that there's no such thing as the Paris Business Revue and that French imports to the US actually increased in the time that O'Reilly claimed that they plummeted.

That's exactly the same as O'Reilly calling everyone at Air America a traitor and calling the very existence of a liberal radio network treasonous, and calling for the Feds to take them away in chains.

Al Franken beligerantly claimed that O'Reilly beat him in the ratings slightly in the overall demographics, but the big money demographic of 18-54 slightly favored Franken, though Limbaugh beat them both hands down.

That's just like how O'Reilly said that he beat Franken in the ratings "handily" and that Franken is just like Hitler's propaganda minister claiming to have gotten better ratings.

The two are like the opposite sides of the same coin.



Notice how bill oreilly makes up the Paris Business Revue and compares him to hitler. Also bill oreilly calls freedom of speach treasonous. basicly im saying that most of what franken says is based in fact(im not saying hes perfect) and most of what oreilly says is actually "hate media". While both of them probably hate eachother franken doesnt attack oreilly without grounding.

Air America: No joke!
I disagree.

And take everything Franken says with a grain of salt. He's only a foot behind Michael Moore in the Taking-Quotes-Out-Of-Context race (although the thought of Mike in a foot race amuses me to no end.)

I disagree.

And take everything Franken says with a grain of salt. He's only a foot behind Michael Moore in the Taking-Quotes-Out-Of-Context race (although the thought of Mike in a foot race amuses me to no end.)

Examples please.

please...the left sound just as angry and hateful as the right.

Perhaps, but I believe the "left" has a hell of a lot more to be angry about. The right thinks everything is going well. It's not.

I mean I'm sure the right in American not unlike the Sunni's in Iraq thought their leader was doing a great job too! :rolleyes:

Still, don't you notice that there is a lack of opposing views in the callers, compared to conservative talk? Boortz will put contradictory callers on the air ahead of any others. I just don't hear that many call any of the Air America shows. Maybe the conservative callers just don't think enough of Air America to put up with the waits?

Are you refering to audience call-ins, or actual guests of the shows?

Rhandi Rhodes has just as many neo-con call-ins as liberals.

Al Franken constantly has Republican guests on his show, he even had G. Gordon Liddy as a co-host one day! He doesn't do much with taking calls from the audience though, which is fine, I can only hear 'first time caller, long time listener' so many times.

Which reminds me, I'm outta here!

I'm missing Al's show(guest host Rachel Maddow). Off to his blog.....

please...the left sound just as angry and hateful as the right. Out of all the shows I've ever heard only Jim Bohannan actually sounds calm and plesant...oh and Kim Komando.

I listen to Tony Snow most mornings and he's pretty good most of the time. If I listen to Rush it's to fill in the time till Neal Boortz come on. He's my favorite. He slams both sides.

I would touch Savage with a ten meter caddle prod. NOW there's angry! Has anyone heard Jerry Doyle's (Gerabaldi from B5) show yet. Not too bad in my opinion. a kind of tuned down Savage. Still angry at times, just not as much
but unlike the right the lefts anger is based on rationality

Antre_Travarious']Air America is hate radio. Randi Rhodes advocated the murder of President Bush. This is the kind of bullshit that makes me ashamed to be a democrat.
thats an outright lie--there was a stupid spoof that Rhodes didnt have any part of that was meant as a joke that was broadcast. She never said any such thing regardless of how justified she would be in saying it

(btw you dont sound anything like a democrat to me)

Yup.
Al Franken takes clips of Bill O'Reilly making statements that are false, such as claiming that he caused a boycott of French goods that was reported by the Paris Business Revue to have cost the French economy three billion dollars and then Franken goes and maliciously points out that there's no such thing as the Paris Business Revue and that French imports to the US actually increased in the time that O'Reilly claimed that they plummeted.

That's exactly the same as O'Reilly calling everyone at Air America a traitor and calling the very existence of a liberal radio network treasonous, and calling for the Feds to take them away in chains.

Al Franken beligerantly claimed that O'Reilly beat him in the ratings slightly in the overall demographics, but the big money demographic of 18-54 slightly favored Franken, though Limbaugh beat them both hands down.

That's just like how O'Reilly said that he beat Franken in the ratings "handily" and that Franken is just like Hitler's propaganda minister claiming to have gotten better ratings.

The two are like the opposite sides of the same coin. :rolleyes:
Not even close--Franken may have made a misstatement here and there but he comes nowhere near the blatant lies that O'Really spouts on a daily basis. Theres zero comparison. Franken has integrity and O'Really is a patholigical spin artist

While I'm all for competition, I don't think "3.1 million Persons 12+" for the entire network is even remotely comparable to 40 million Rush listeners, 35 million Sean Hannity listeners, or 24 million Dr. Laura listeners.

Keep trying, though. Keep the debate going.

I disagree.

And take everything Franken says with a grain of salt. He's only a foot behind Michael Moore in the Taking-Quotes-Out-Of-Context race (although the thought of Mike in a foot race amuses me to no end.)
thats a load of bullcrap--Franken and Moore are fanatical about backing up everything they say--the neocon hate media just outright lies and distorts

While I'm all for competition, I don't think "3.1 million Persons 12+" for the entire network is even remotely comparable to 40 million Rush listeners, 35 million Sean Hannity listeners, or 24 million Dr. Laura listeners.

Keep trying, though. Keep the debate going.
well the fact that Rush is a corporate whore may have something to do with that--plus airamerica is brand new and when Randi Rhodes is stacked up against Rush in the same time slot she blows that whale out of the water

but unlike the right the lefts anger is based on rationality
Uh, no.

I may not agree with most of the Republican's platform, but I am hardpressed to find much of anything in that of the Democrats I can strongly side with. Can you give proof, or even examples, of these "neo-con lies" you speak of?

By the way, if Moore is so fanatical about backing everything he says, then why have his films been found to make use of faulty statistics, staged interviews, and manipulative editing?

Maybe the reason why there is so much anger towards the "neo-cons" is because they have kept conservatives in the only branches of the government possible to vote on while neo-liberal movement died with their failed policy of detente, which proved that they did not know how to handle foreign policy, particularly with the Soviets?

Uh, no.

I may not agree with most of the Republican's platform, but I am hardpressed to find much of anything in that of the Democrats I can strongly side with. Can you give proof, or even examples, of these "neo-con lies" you speak of?

By the way, if Moore is so fanatical about backing everything he says, then why have his films been found to make use of faulty statistics, staged interviews, and manipulative editing?

Maybe the reason why there is so much anger towards the "neo-cons" is because they have kept conservatives in the only branches of the government possible to vote on while neo-liberal movement died with their failed policy of detente, which proved that they did not know how to handle foreign policy, particularly with the Soviets?
if you could only suspend your rabid partisan bias just for a nanosecond and actually spend some time listening to AirAmerica then comparing it to the lies of the hate media I think youd notice how much more theLeft can back up their assertions with hard facts while the right spins their endless webs of deceit and scapegoating (even when they control ALL 3 branches of Govt they still have to cajones to blame dems for their failures) In the 5 disastrous years of the Bush Admin theres not ONE success they can point to and America itself is on the brink of collapse