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The Brits start CLEANING HOUSE! Go getem' guys!

ARF-COM and IBTL
30-08-2005, 19:21
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Militants go into hiding as expulsion orders are signed
By Daniel McGrory
August 30, 2005
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1756091,00.html
A NUMBER of Islamic militants on the list of undesirables to be expelled this week have reportedly tried to go into hiding before the arrests begin.
Undercover agents kept watch on the individuals over the weekend as Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, signed the first deportation documents. There are thought to be more than 100 names on the list.

One cleric, understood to be listed, was seen being smuggled out of his home at the weekend. Another, the Saudi-born Muhammad al-Massari, has been in contact with lawyers about how to block an arrest.

At the weekend he removed a website from the internet that showed the murder of three British soldiers by an Iraqi suicide bomber. Dr al-Massari blamed a government “inquisition” for having to strip his website of controversial content.

Abu Qatada, who has been described as al-Qaeda’s spiritual ambassador in Europe, is another on the list.

The Home Secretary said that he will pursue anyone who “foments, justifies or glorifies terrorist violence”, through organisations such as the Muslim Council.

The Muslim Association has told him privately that forced expulsions will be “counterproductive”. It says that it played no part in helping Mr Clarke to draw up the list and wants to know how the Home Office monitored the preachers.

Mohammad Shahid Raza, who trains imams at the Muslim College, said: “The authorities must be transparent about what they are doing and give reasons why they wish to remove these preachers, or they could face resistance from our youth. We need to know so we can explain to our communities who may be in agreement.”

Mr Clarke’s rules are aimed at individuals and not whole organisations, such as Hizb-ut-Tahrir, although ministers are looking at ways to ban such groups.

Lawyers for the first ten men to be picked up as part of the crackdown, and held as a threat to public safety, have given warning that it could take up to three years and cost the taxpayers £3 million for the courts to rule if the detainees can be deported.
Liskeinland
30-08-2005, 19:25
Deporting them is stupid. How is it going to make them any less dangerous preaching hatred abroad? I say keep them in Britain, it's easier to survey them.
Rougu
30-08-2005, 19:28
Deporting them is stupid. How is it going to make them any less dangerous preaching hatred abroad? I say keep them in Britain, it's easier to survey them.

I disagree, get rid of them.
Liskeinland
30-08-2005, 19:31
I disagree, get rid of them. What good does it do? It means they're a lot harder to keep track of. Doesn't stop them or their message at all.
Robbopolis
30-08-2005, 19:40
What good does it do? It means they're a lot harder to keep track of. Doesn't stop them or their message at all.

It doesn't stop them from preaching, but it does keep them from conducting certain activities that you need to be on the ground for, such as surveilence.
Drunk commies deleted
30-08-2005, 19:46
What good does it do? It means they're a lot harder to keep track of. Doesn't stop them or their message at all.
Put them on a ship back to the middle east and sink it half way. Then you'll always know where they are, at the bottom of the sea.
AlanBstard
30-08-2005, 20:04
I'm sort of in Limbo. Part of me thinks that we need people to disagree with our values, otherwise we will never need to re evalute ourselves and our culture will become full of the same kind of Dogma that has crippled the middle east.

But another part of me thinks...hang the bastard!
Carops
30-08-2005, 20:08
deporting them really doesn't change much, but at least I can't hear the bastards now. Maybe we could have them sent to an island far away... maybe Bermuda... or possibly the Falklands. We'll see if Argentina still wants them then... hehehe
Ianarabia
30-08-2005, 20:31
Send em to France...hell on earth.
Liskeinland
30-08-2005, 20:33
Send em to France...hell on earth. The French will kill them, they're notoriously egocentric. Common ground with much of America…

*having offended two major countries, he waltzes out*
Carops
30-08-2005, 20:33
Send em to France...hell on earth.
we could dress them up with a string of onions and possibly a beret. ... they'll never tell the difference!
Hogsweat
30-08-2005, 20:37
Put them under house arrest.
Just after they moved into the prison, that is.
Valosia
30-08-2005, 20:45
we could dress them up with a string of onions and possibly a beret. ... they'll never tell the difference!

I'm not so sure, I think they'd be easily spotted. Remember, the French surrender five times a day in the direction of Vichy.
Carops
30-08-2005, 20:45
We should just cover their mouths with stick-tape and chain them to a porn shop....
Carops
30-08-2005, 20:46
I'm not so sure, I think they'd be easily spotted. Remember, the French surrender five times a day in the direction of Vichy.

True, true.... let's give the clerics machine guns and kill two birds with one stone...
ARF-COM and IBTL
30-08-2005, 21:12
True, true.... let's give the clerics machine guns and kill two birds with one stone...

The french would surrender before they even set foot on french soil.