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I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?

That would be district and state policies.

And I never had nap time. :(

Since students started going on shooting sprees?

2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
I'm sorry, but that's just gay. :rolleyes:

I can't really express my opinion any more concisely.

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?
It has been slowly declining to this for a while.
I know when I was growing up my parents were very clear that you left your homelife at home. If you had a bad morning, got in a fight with your sister ect., you didn't let it ruin your day, you didn't even mention it, it was a family matter.
I was shocked when I was supervising a restraunt and all these teenagers came in whining about thier day.
I had to ask "why should I care? shut up and work!! If it's that bad stay home."
then I looked like the mean b... well you know...

you may not have had nap time, but at least when you were wrong, teachers told you WRONG!!! and you learned from it. It wasn't okay to fail.

Since students started going on shooting sprees?
there werent very many shooting sprees in catholic schools with nuns smacking the hell out of you to make you holy.

That would be district and state policies.

And I never had nap time. :(
We had mandatory naptime.

I remember getting paddled for coughing on some one.

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?
Lavender Ink:Parents complained to school boards until it became policy. Teachers probably are against it as it as it is alot easier to find a store that sells lavender pens. They also tend to be a bit more expensive.
Friendship Circle:Parents complained to school boards until it became policy. Must be hard for the boys to perticipate as they don't have feelings.

Teachers have absolutely no influence on policy. Hell to get a broken heater fixed at my school the teacher had to phone a parent and ask her to call the school board and snap at the person in charge.

Lavender Ink:Parents complained to school boards until it became policy. Teachers probably are against it as it as it is alot harder to find a store that sells lavender pens. They also tend to be a bit more expensive.
Friendship Circle:Parents complained to school boards until it became policy. Must be hard for the boys to perticipate as they don't have feelings.

Teachers have absolutely no influence on policy. Hell to get a broken heater fixed at my school the teacher had to phone a parent and ask her to call the school board and snap at the person in charge.
true. but then it's the parents not really letting their kids grow emotionally to deal with everyday stress. colgate university just started telling parents to let kids deal with their own problems instead of calling mommy and daddy in to save the day.

Actually, I like the lavender ink idea. I had these two teachers last year: one wrote in purple, one in red. I had an easier time rewriting my essays for the purple teacher. They both gave the same suggestions. They say colors have an effect on moods.....Go figure.

Cana2: amen to that. Teachers have approximately zero involvement in these matters. Students and parents were also required to get anything done at my highschool - there were even serious health hazards cited by teachers that went ignored until WE did something (in other words told mommy and daddy :p)

Cana2: amen to that. Teachers have approximately zero involvement in these matters. Students and parents were also required to get anything done at my highschool - there were even serious health hazards cited by teachers that went ignored until WE did something (in other words told mommy and daddy :p)
How could a left-wing nut job like me have people agree with them.

true. but then it's the parents not really letting their kids grow emotionally to deal with everyday stress. colgate university just started telling parents to let kids deal with their own problems instead of calling mommy and daddy in to save the day.
Nice. As a college administrator, I've really gotten sick of the parents who insist on holding their child's hand for anything and everything they do. I actually had some parents threaten to complain to my supervisor after I would give them ONLY 1 HOUR of my time after they drove 2 hours so they could help their daughter come in and meet with me. I kindly explained that college is a great place for people to learn how to be adults, and they were robbing their daughter of that opportunity. Somehow I don't think I got through to them. My supervisor says he told them pretty much the same thing.

Nice. As a college administrator, I've really gotten sick of the parents who insist on holding their child's hand for anything and everything they do. I actually had some parents threaten to complain to my supervisor after I would give them ONLY 1 HOUR of my time after they drove 2 hours so they could help their daughter come in and meet with me. I kindly explained that college is a great place for people to learn how to be adults, and they were robbing their daughter of that opportunity. Somehow I don't think I got through to them. My supervisor says he told them pretty much the same thing.
Good job. Have a cookie.

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating

Parents: HOW DARE YOU MAKE MY CHILD FEEL LIKE A FAILURE!!!!!

Teacher: *sighs* Ok, I'll tell them they failed in purple ink, ok?

That, and actually the color change does make sence in teaching as many students now ignore the damn red ink because they've seen so much of it. Any other color, as long as it is not black or blue, seems to get their attention better.

2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.

Parents: How DARE you let them play a violent game like dogeball! My kid got a black eye from those bullies, I'm suing!

School District: Oh crap, from hence forth, no dogeball, and we must all have a way to vent feelings.

Teacher: *sighs* Ok, I'm sure my students will love and appreciate this as there is nothing more they like doing than looking weak in front of classmates.

3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.
Parents: We want our kids reading by first grade! Kindergarden has too much free time when they could be learning!

Congress and States: Sure, we can make testing manditory even for kindergarden, BUT we won't increase taxes to either get teacher's aids for this, or extend the day to allow full day kindergarden.

Teacher (who by this time is gray haired and twitching): Ok, we can lose nap time, the only time when I CAN THINK AND GET THESE KIDS TO BEHAVE AND ARRRRRRRGGGGGGG! (quits and goes to a quiet and less stressfilled life of bomb disposal).

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?
We always have cared for the kid's feelings, but we also were acting in loco parentis. But, parents didn't like that so they took away our ability to act as such, but didn't do the job themselves. So when a kid misbehaves, we have no real way to act. But yet, we're expected to teach them to be civil.

And deal with parents.

education (and child rearing) have become infected with the notion that you can GIVE a child good self esteem by always being nice-nice and praising a child no matter how bad or wrong they are

self esteem comes from within not from without and you get it from trying and eventually succeeding. without failure there is no self esteem.

Nice. As a college administrator, I've really gotten sick of the parents who insist on holding their child's hand for anything and everything they do. I actually had some parents threaten to complain to my supervisor after I would give them ONLY 1 HOUR of my time after they drove 2 hours so they could help their daughter come in and meet with me. I kindly explained that college is a great place for people to learn how to be adults, and they were robbing their daughter of that opportunity. Somehow I don't think I got through to them. My supervisor says he told them pretty much the same thing.
two cookies, double chocolate chip

Nice. As a college administrator, I've really gotten sick of the parents who insist on holding their child's hand for anything and everything they do. I actually had some parents threaten to complain to my supervisor after I would give them ONLY 1 HOUR of my time after they drove 2 hours so they could help their daughter come in and meet with me. I kindly explained that college is a great place for people to learn how to be adults, and they were robbing their daughter of that opportunity. Somehow I don't think I got through to them. My supervisor says he told them pretty much the same thing.

*heh* I remember things like that. During orientation and pre-advisement sessions, we ALWAYS seperated the parents and kids. Many parents didn't like that so we had a specal call over the radio to ask the Director of Admissions to stop by and gently (and not-so-gently) at times tell the parents it was time to let go.

I can still here one of my fellows calling out, "The monkey is on my back, could someone PLEASE get it off me?!" ;)

education (and child rearing) have become infected with the notion that you can GIVE a child good self esteem by always being nice-nice and praising a child no matter how bad or wrong they are

self esteem comes from within not from without and you get it from trying and eventually succeeding. without failure there is no self esteem.
Wouldn't that accually hurt the kids self-esteem. The kid is gonna graduate from highschool and realize they stand no chance the kids from other nations (like Japan were school is taken much more seriously by everyone). So the kid gets used to not having to deal with failure and then finds out they can only get into a community college, when the school had them believing they would go to an Ivy League Unniversity.

... maybe we're turning into a caring society, more concerned about making people feel comfortable and generally good about themselves?

:fluffle: It's all good :fluffle:

i wrote it in magenta just to spite you bastards :D

intresting.... i get ot start college in a week :-/ should be intresting, as my parents have ALWAYS delt with my problems, and phone calls, and etc...

the list goes on and on.... :headbang: :D :sniper:

intresting.... i get ot start college in a week :-/ should be intresting, as my parents have ALWAYS delt with my problems, and phone calls, and etc...

the list goes on and on.... :headbang: :D :sniper:
good luck and learn to stand on your own two feet.

Wouldn't that accually hurt the kids self-esteem. The kid is gonna graduate from highschool and realize they stand no chance the kids from other nations (like Japan were school is taken much more seriously by everyone). So the kid gets used to not having to deal with failure and then finds out they can only get into a community college, when the school had them believing they would go to an Ivy League Unniversity.
yup

and that is a huge problem with young adults today who have never been expected to perform to a high standard and who have never had to face adversity on their own.

You know, you guys should see some of the school districts in this state, where there are less kids in the entire district than in some schools in major cities. I always had a nap in Kindergarten, we could play dodgeball with soccer balls, and our teachers insult us all the time, but since it's such a small school, it's kinda like family. Who needs a friendship circle? We're all emotionally bothered, and those who can't handle needs to seek professional help, not someone who is likely dumber/more ignorant than you. I have one teacher that writes in lavender ink, but that's just preferance. Pretty soon, it's not going to be failing, it's going to be not suceeding enough as we would like, but this is public schools, so you can try and work harder next year

When did teachers become pansies?

Two answers to your question, first the teachers themselves didn't become pansies, the school boards that set the rules they must follow did.
Second, it happened slowly over the last twenty years.

I havent heard of any of those policies. I teach kids, though not in the public school system, and I cant imagine taking away dodge ball. At the beginning of this year we were under the impression that the kids may not like dodge ball as much as we though they did. We decided not to play it anymore and boy were we wrong. The kids petitioned and chanted and begged for dodgeball. So, now its back.

... maybe we're turning into a caring society, more concerned about making people feel comfortable and generally good about themselves?

:fluffle: It's all good :fluffle:

i wrote it in magenta just to spite you bastards :D

A caring society filled with failures who have high self-esteem.

Oh yes, that’s the world I definitely want to live in :rolleyes:

I work with kid's in an after school care facility. (you know the ones - where the parents drop their kids off at six in the morning and pick them up at six at night and have been doing it since they were six months old?? yeah its a lovely system for some people) Anyway we see alot of kids that dont get the parental contact that they need and their parents honestly dont have the time to be good disciplinarians. Whats more of a problem is that these kids will stand there and yell and scream at you because they know their rights and their parents "pay for you to look after me not tell me what to do". one kid felt it was his god given right to call me a c*nt and to bite and headbutt me and yell at me for a good forty odd minutes. By this stage i'd actually gotten him into the office and had the door closed and he was throwing our supplies around. Until i told him to sit the f*ck down and shut his mouth because i didnt care what he had to say. He was honestly so taken back he was speechless :)

Of course then he thought that his mother would instantly leap to the defence of her child and she did - which completely undermines everything that i tried to do but thats not the point. Parents need to let their kids be raised - particulaly if they wont or cant (i'm not saying everyone who has their kids in an outside school hours facility is a bad parent by any means - sometimes it cant be helped) i mean i remember being slapped across the face for talking back to a teacher - and now i cant even tell him to shut his mouth after he took a chunk out of my arm? *grumbles* stupid lavender ink...

... maybe we're turning into a caring society, more concerned about making people feel comfortable and generally good about themselves?

:fluffle: It's all good :fluffle:

i wrote it in magenta just to spite you bastards :D

Great, a society of uneducated dumbasses with a indoctrinated ego AND bliss ninny complexes. Ya, sounds like progress. :rolleyes:

I work with kid's in an after school care facility. (you know the ones - where the parents drop their kids off at six in the morning and pick them up at six at night and have been doing it since they were six months old?? yeah its a lovely system for some people) Anyway we see alot of kids that dont get the parental contact that they need and their parents honestly dont have the time to be good disciplinarians. Whats more of a problem is that these kids will stand there and yell and scream at you because they know their rights and their parents "pay for you to look after me not tell me what to do". one kid felt it was his god given right to call me a c*nt and to bite and headbutt me and yell at me for a good forty odd minutes. By this stage i'd actually gotten him into the office and had the door closed and he was throwing our supplies around. Until i told him to sit the f*ck down and shut his mouth because i didnt care what he had to say. He was honestly so taken back he was speechless :)

Of course then he thought that his mother would instantly leap to the defence of her child and she did - which completely undermines everything that i tried to do but thats not the point. Parents need to let their kids be raised - particulaly if they wont or cant (i'm not saying everyone who has their kids in an outside school hours facility is a bad parent by any means - sometimes it cant be helped) i mean i remember being slapped across the face for talking back to a teacher - and now i cant even tell him to shut his mouth after he took a chunk out of my arm? *grumbles* stupid lavender ink...


Personally I would have strung him upside down and let him hang till he shut the hell up... but that's probably why I don't have your job.

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?
Not that there hasn't been a lot of coddling of self esteem in schools these days, but this smells a little fishy to me. I have a feeling someone's telling stories....

First of all I would like to say that I laugh at the pansy parents who lash out at the district just because their child can't get it through their heads that subtraction is noncommutative instead of *gasp* actually helping them study.

That being said, I support the abolition of nap time. Even in Kindergarten I never liked being idle outside of my home. I remember thinking during nap time that we could be doing something more productive (not in those words, as the word productive had yet to enter my vocabulary).

Viewing it as an adult, it also sets a bad precedence for grades 1 - 12 and for entrance into the work force - retirement.

When did teachers become pansies?

Two answers to your question, first the teachers themselves didn't become pansies, the school boards that set the rules they must follow did.
Second, it happened slowly over the last twenty years.
Really? I've notice big changes when my cousin talks to me about school and he's only 7 grades younger than me.

I work with kid's in an after school care facility. (you know the ones - where the parents drop their kids off at six in the morning and pick them up at six at night and have been doing it since they were six months old?? yeah its a lovely system for some people) Anyway we see alot of kids that dont get the parental contact that they need and their parents honestly dont have the time to be good disciplinarians. Whats more of a problem is that these kids will stand there and yell and scream at you because they know their rights and their parents "pay for you to look after me not tell me what to do". one kid felt it was his god given right to call me a c*nt and to bite and headbutt me and yell at me for a good forty odd minutes. By this stage i'd actually gotten him into the office and had the door closed and he was throwing our supplies around. Until i told him to sit the f*ck down and shut his mouth because i didnt care what he had to say. He was honestly so taken back he was speechless :)

Of course then he thought that his mother would instantly leap to the defence of her child and she did - which completely undermines everything that i tried to do but thats not the point. Parents need to let their kids be raised - particulaly if they wont or cant (i'm not saying everyone who has their kids in an outside school hours facility is a bad parent by any means - sometimes it cant be helped) i mean i remember being slapped across the face for talking back to a teacher - and now i cant even tell him to shut his mouth after he took a chunk out of my arm? *grumbles* stupid lavender ink...
Next time that happens tell the parent their child is not welcome to your facility anymore. You have the right to refuse to provide a product/service to some. If the parent gets upset, say you also have the right to work without the being abused physically and emotionnally on a consistant basis. I said something like this when a mother was acting like that at school. She was pretty upset when I said that. Then she said several hypocritical things and made an ass out of herself.

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?

None of that shit will be happening in my classroom, I assure you


there werent very many shooting sprees in catholic schools with nuns smacking the hell out of you to make you holy.

I have a friend who was sick of the nuns pulling on his tie, so one day he wore a clip-on, and laughed when they pulled it right off. He got the ruler across the nuckles :)

true. but then it's the parents not really letting their kids grow emotionally to deal with everyday stress. colgate university just started telling parents to let kids deal with their own problems instead of calling mommy and daddy in to save the day.

Good, kids need to learn to deal with their own problems

education (and child rearing) have become infected with the notion that you can GIVE a child good self esteem by always being nice-nice and praising a child no matter how bad or wrong they are

self esteem comes from within not from without and you get it from trying and eventually succeeding. without failure there is no self esteem.

You get self-esteem and maturity from learning to deal with failure. We're ending up with a bunch of emotionally retarded ninnies

I work with kid's in an after school care facility. (you know the ones - where the parents drop their kids off at six in the morning and pick them up at six at night and have been doing it since they were six months old?? yeah its a lovely system for some people) Anyway we see alot of kids that dont get the parental contact that they need and their parents honestly dont have the time to be good disciplinarians. Whats more of a problem is that these kids will stand there and yell and scream at you because they know their rights and their parents "pay for you to look after me not tell me what to do". one kid felt it was his god given right to call me a c*nt and to bite and headbutt me and yell at me for a good forty odd minutes. By this stage i'd actually gotten him into the office and had the door closed and he was throwing our supplies around. Until i told him to sit the f*ck down and shut his mouth because i didnt care what he had to say. He was honestly so taken back he was speechless :)

Of course then he thought that his mother would instantly leap to the defence of her child and she did - which completely undermines everything that i tried to do but thats not the point. Parents need to let their kids be raised - particulaly if they wont or cant (i'm not saying everyone who has their kids in an outside school hours facility is a bad parent by any means - sometimes it cant be helped) i mean i remember being slapped across the face for talking back to a teacher - and now i cant even tell him to shut his mouth after he took a chunk out of my arm? *grumbles* stupid lavender ink...

I'd have bitch slapped the little snot, and made the mother pay for any broken supplies

I'd have bitch slapped the little snot, and made the mother pay for any broken supplies
O, Yeah! Draft up a nice bill for all the supplies the kid broke. I would love to see the look on the parents face.

2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.

Dodgeball was banned because it taught the nerds and the fat kids survival skills.

Agh i remember 5th grade, smacking the shit outta people and laughing.


"Ok kids, time for the friendship circle"

"What the hell, thats gay, i wanna play Dodgeball"

" Time out for you"

"Go Fuck yourself"



Friendship circle ? Hallle noooo

My class would be getting the shit smaked out of them regualary, learning how to hot-wire a car, and how to beg for money, while watching the Chappelle Show and listing to Uncensored rap.

Agh i remember 5th grade, smacking the shit outta people and laughing.


"Ok kids, time for the friendship circle"

"What the hell, thats gay, i wanna play Dodgeball"

" Time out for you"

"Go Fuck yourself"



Friendship circle ? Hallle noooo

My class would be getting the shit smaked out of them regualary, learning how to hot-wire a car, and how to beg for money, while watching the Chappelle Show and listing to Uncensored rap.
lol. Thats something I would say. If the teacher got upset I'd tell my mom the teacher was mean to me.:p

intresting.... i get ot start college in a week :-/ should be intresting, as my parents have ALWAYS delt with my problems, and phone calls, and etc...

the list goes on and on.... :headbang: :D :sniper:

I officially feel sorry for you. I love college because everybody WANTS to be there. However, with everybody being pushed into college these days, there are people who really aren't interested, especially the freshmen general ed classes. This means that the prof gets distracted by these guys instead of focusing on the ones who want to be there, and we all get short-changed. Are you sure that you really want to go?

I just don't get lavender ink. Red is used because it shows up well against the pencil, blue and black ink, and typewriten/printed work. Lavender is like green, nice in theory but it isn't distinct enough from the background. If they had to get rid of red, couldn't they have at least gone to the pale blue that used to be used in typesetting, while not as good as red at being distingushable from the background, it is better than lavender.

Come to think of it, it could be a timesaver for teachers - instead of writing a note telling the student why what they did was wrong and explaining how to do it correctly, they just mark it wrong and leave it since the student won't be able to read the note in lavender anyway. Not good for educating students, by who expects that from schools anymore anyway.

I just don't get lavender ink. Red is used because it shows up well against the pencil, blue and black ink, and typewriten/printed work. Lavender is like green, nice in theory but it isn't distinct enough from the background. If they had to get rid of red, couldn't they have at least gone to the pale blue that used to be used in typesetting, while not as good as red at being distingushable from the background, it is better than lavender.

Come to think of it, it could be a timesaver for teachers - instead of writing a note telling the student why what they did was wrong and explaining how to do it correctly, they just mark it wrong and leave it since the student won't be able to read the note in lavender anyway. Not good for educating students, by who expects that from schools anymore anyway.

The switch away from red is actually a good idea, because kids have just become so used to red = bad that they just don't read it anymore. You may think that lavender is stupid, but it's different and will get the kids' attention.

The switch away from red is actually a good idea, because kids have just become so used to red = bad that they just don't read it anymore. You may think that lavender is stupid, but it's different and will get the kids' attention.
You can't read it though.

You can't read it though.

I used purple, myself. Like a darker, royal purple.

How could a left-wing nut job like me have people agree with them.

um...its nationstates...

I used purple, myself. Like a darker, royal purple.I prefer pink. Glitter pink.

I prefer pink. Glitter pink.

That might be difficult to read. :)

um...its nationstates...
If only the world were more like nationstates.....

I'd never want to go outside.

That might be difficult to read. :)
Its not as bad as lavender or pencil.

Its not as bad as lavender or pencil.

Well any teacher who would use pencil would be an idiot.

Well any teacher who would use pencil would be an idiot.
Some do use pencil. The thing as, right after they maark it the write your score in their book and enter it in their computer, never to see the paper again.

Personally, I make my own naptimes in class. ;)

My question is, why did thy eliminate dodgeball? They place such an empasis on sports in high school and later, but won't let them play in elementary school? Sounds hypocritical to me. Not to mention the issues with childhood obesity when they won't let them get the exercise they need.

My question is, why did thy eliminate dodgeball? They place such an empasis on sports in high school and later, but won't let them play in elementary school? Sounds hypocritical to me. Not to mention the issues with childhood obesity when they won't let them get the exercise they need.
They need to blame the parents for something...even if it isn't bad parenting... :rolleyes:

And lavender? It's the smell my granny used to cover the scent of a fresh crap in the bathroom! You use red, and yes, we hate it, but we're used to it and if kids ignore it, because they weren't going to learn from their mistakes anyway!

My question is, why did thy eliminate dodgeball? They place such an empasis on sports in high school and later, but won't let them play in elementary school? Sounds hypocritical to me. Not to mention the issues with childhood obesity when they won't let them get the exercise they need.

Because kids got hurt and parents complained and they stopped letting them play dodgeball. Honestly, you hear people complain about how the schools are going soft on kids, but it's a lot of the same people who come storming into the school when it's their kid that's on the recieving end strict discipline.

Because kids got hurt and parents complained and they stopped letting them play dodgeball. Honestly, you hear people complain about how the schools are going soft on kids, but it's a lot of the same people who come storming into the school when it's their kid that's on the recieving end strict discipline.


They should make kids at school play with BB guns and shoot at each others bare SKin.

My question is, why did thy eliminate dodgeball?
It reduces the time students spend playing floor hockey. How successful can a child be without being good at floor hockey.

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?

Can't say I ever had nap time myself (kindergarden was only 3 hours for me) but the first two do sound extremely stupid.

The largest district in the area has consistently outdated materials and the buildings are in need of repairs with many still using 50 year old equipment. The district has problems raising the funds to pay for the renovations needed and the people of the community apparently feel that they do not need to support the schools. The district has sold commercial advertising on the bus fleet for at least 10 years, with no apparent increase in revenue.

My question is when did public education become a secondary expenditure? And while we're at it, why should colleges or the U.S. military teach the kids what they should have learned in grade/secondary schools?

They should make kids at school play with BB guns and shoot at each others bare SKin.
No, you can actually do serious damage that way ( although rarer than many people think). A few cracked ribs and we had to quit killball (dodgeball played with a softball) when I went to school. I know some of you doubtless think I'm a wimp and will tell me like my mother did that "[T]here's no fun in the games until someone puts an eye out", but I favor the idea that stretchers in schools are like fire extingushers, necessary but you don't want to need them every day.

My question is, why did thy eliminate dodgeball? They place such an empasis on sports in high school and later, but won't let them play in elementary school? Sounds hypocritical to me. Not to mention the issues with childhood obesity when they won't let them get the exercise they need.

Because its a cruel and pointless activity for many. I have no problem with the kids who WANT to play it playing it. But those who don't want to shouldn't be forced to (like many were/are). Not that they should be allowed to sit on the side lines. They should be required to participate in some other physical activity. And I'd be willing to bet that once the geeky and weaker kids opt out, a lot of the other kids will lose interest in it as for many of them the whole point of playing it is just to beat the crap out of the "losers."

It does my head in.
I use red ink and will keep using red ink (though I teach in the UK).
The red alerts them to their errors and has a stop/think effect rather than cuddling them in. The principle that a negative should be put alongside a positive (edit) in marking I agree with though and do that where possible.

AS FOR PARENTS...DON'T GET ME STARTED!!! DUE TO THESE PERSONS INABILITY TO BRING UP THEIR CHILDREN PROPERLY THEY LIKE TO LOOK FOR A SCAPEGOAT IN THE SCHOOL!!

Kids can play up all they like but if you shout and upset them the parents are down like a shot, forgetting that if they just behaved you wouldn't need to shout at the little buggers and accusing you of picking on them.
I had a particularly bad class who I had to punish to get them under control (you have to have control to teach so none of this let them express themselves crap) I had complaints from 20 out of the 30 in my class that I was singling their pupil out!!! When the headmaster saw that most of the class were bing 'singled out' even he had a giggle.


As for phys ed. it is absolutely essential these days (I teach History and Law so have no axe to grind) child obesity and diabetes as a result are going to put an enourmous future strain on the health system and good diet and exercise teaching is essential as is competition!!

Because its a cruel and pointless activity for many. I have no problem with the kids who WANT to play it playing it. But those who don't want to shouldn't be forced to (like many were/are). Not that they should be allowed to sit on the side lines. They should be required to participate in some other physical activity. And I'd be willing to bet that once the geeky and weaker kids opt out, a lot of the other kids will lose interest in it as for many of them the whole point of playing it is just to beat the crap out of the "losers."
I don't aim for the "losers" they stand at the back of the gym and its damn near impossible to throw a spange ball that far. Besides my friends are good at dodging the ball and I enjoy the challenge of trying to hit them. Save a nerd, throw the ball at your friends.

It does my head in.
I use red ink and will keep using red ink (though I teach in the UK).
The red alerts them to their errors and has a stop/think effect rather than cuddling them in. The principle that a negative should be put alongside a positive (edit) in marking I agree with though and do that where possible.

AS FOR PARENTS...DON'T GET ME STARTED!!! DUE TO THESE PERSONS INABILITY TO BRING UP THEIR CHILDREN PROPERLY THEY LIKE TO LOOK FOR A SCAPEGOAT IN THE SCHOOL!!

Kids can play up all they like but if you shout and upset them the parents are down like a shot, forgetting that if they just behaved you wouldn't need to shout at the little buggers and accusing you of picking on them.
I had a particularly bad class who I had to punish to get them under control (you have to have control to teach so none of this let them express themselves crap) I had complaints from 20 out of the 30 in my class that I was singling their pupil out!!! When the headmaster saw that most of the class were bing 'singled out' even he had a giggle.


As for phys ed. it is absolutely essential these days (I teach History and Law so have no axe to grind) child obesity and diabetes as a result are going to put an enourmous future strain on the health system and good diet and exercise teaching is essential as is competition!!
Have a cookie.

Because its a cruel and pointless activity for many. I have no problem with the kids who WANT to play it playing it. But those who don't want to shouldn't be forced to (like many were/are). Not that they should be allowed to sit on the side lines. They should be required to participate in some other physical activity. And I'd be willing to bet that once the geeky and weaker kids opt out, a lot of the other kids will lose interest in it as for many of them the whole point of playing it is just to beat the crap out of the "losers."I take it you were either a loser or the one kid we never liked to play with cause he was too mean. The targets were just free hits, no need to wallop them, take them out if your arm gets tired if you want to. What you really wanted was the good players, the ones who were a challenge to hit, the ones who got hit hard because the only way to hit them was with a fast ball.

I take it you were either a loser or the one kid we never liked to play with cause he was too mean. The targets were just free hits, no need to wallop them, take them out if your arm gets tired if you want to. What you really wanted was the good players, the ones who were a challenge to hit, the ones who got hit hard because the only way to hit them was with a fast ball.

Perhaps the rules are different from region to region or have changed over the years. But back when I was a kid (70s-80s in Texas) when one team dropped below 5 or 6 members due to losses, the winning team was told to cross the line and whallop the crap out of the remaining opponents at close range. To throw the ball as hard as possible at close range was encouraged by the P.E. teacher. I never understod the point to that.

Perhaps the rules are different from region to region or have changed over the years. But back when I was a kid (70s-80s in Texas) when one team dropped below 5 or 6 members due to losses, the winning team was told to cross the line and whallop the crap out of the remaining opponents at close range. To throw the ball as hard as possible at close range was encouraged by the P.E. teacher. I never understod the point to that.
Motivation

Motivation

Only in the same way that ramming a red hot poker up someones ass could be seen as motivational. But like I said I have no problem with kids playing it who are into it. But forcing it on kids is rather cruel and pointless.

Only in the same way that ramming a red hot poker up someones ass could be seen as motivational.
If that was the consequence for not being able to play dodgeball well, I would be in the olympics for dodgeball. Even if it is not a sport played in the olympics.
But like I said I have no problem with kids playing it who are into it. But forcing it on kids is rather cruel and pointless.
The kids who are into it are the ones left to get pummelled. The nerds know to get hit out before this happens.

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?


LOL!

Perhaps the rules are different from region to region or have changed over the years. But back when I was a kid (70s-80s in Texas) when one team dropped below 5 or 6 members due to losses, the winning team was told to cross the line and whallop the crap out of the remaining opponents at close range. To throw the ball as hard as possible at close range was encouraged by the P.E. teacher. I never understod the point to that.
Could be, never played it in P.E. that I recall, it was a recess/lunch/before school game for us, more common the colder it got. It's not exactly the sort of game I think of as a P.E. class game, no real teamwork.

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating.


That is stupid...


2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.


As someone who has played dodge ball as a young kid, I say they shouldent play it. I got hit in the face with one of those balls and it messed up my glasses. I had to go to the nurse and my face was sore for two days.... Or if they play it they should use balls that don't hurt when you get hit with them!

3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.
They've got the whole naptime thing wrong anyway.

I remember naptime in kindergarten and I was never tired. I would lie there and try not to fidget, and I suppose it gave me a time to think a bit, but I certainly didn't need the rest.

No. The proper time for naptime is college! Staying up until 3 in the morning writing papers and doing problem sets really tires you out, and college students could benefit greatly from a prearanged nap hour sometime just after lunch :D. Sadly, I suspect this will never come to pass.

Anyway, as people have already pointed out, teachers have depressingly little control over school policy, and you can bet most the stupid changes you hear about are coming from parents sticking their noses where they don't belong. Most the teachers I know would think the changes you've listed are ridiculous.

I, personally, am going to be really interested in what happens to the generation spawning from this oh-so-poorly raised one.
I mean, unless something changes, these kids are bound to be pretty messed up.
Maybe they'll be really violent, maybe they'll be insecure wimps.. I don't know. But what about the poor creatures being raised by these creatures?

Better get in Psychiatry now. I predict a rising need for such services.

I, personally, am going to be really interested in what happens to the generation spawning from this oh-so-poorly raised one.
I mean, unless something changes, these kids are bound to be pretty messed up.
Maybe they'll be really violent, maybe they'll be insecure wimps.. I don't know. But what about the poor creatures being raised by these creatures?

Better get in Psychiatry now. I predict a rising need for such services.
I predict that generation will be a bunch of manipulative, back-stabbing, weasels. We would have a generation of politicians.

Unless, this generation, when it is hit with the shoke of the real world, desides, "I'll make an effort to raise my kids to be independant. I do not want them to deal with what I had to when I moved out."

Changing the color doesn't make sense to me, wouldn't kids just ignore it like they ignored the red ink?

Because its a cruel and pointless activity for many. I have no problem with the kids who WANT to play it playing it. But those who don't want to shouldn't be forced to (like many were/are). Not that they should be allowed to sit on the side lines. They should be required to participate in some other physical activity. And I'd be willing to bet that once the geeky and weaker kids opt out, a lot of the other kids will lose interest in it as for many of them the whole point of playing it is just to beat the crap out of the "losers."

The rule is for recess so the kids playing it are all doing it voluntarily.

Amestria']As someone who has played dodge ball as a young kid, I say they shouldent play it. I got hit in the face with one of those balls and it messed up my glasses. I had to go to the nurse and my face was sore for two days.... Or if they play it they should use balls that don't hurt when you get hit with them!

*snort*

I find your pain amusing. :D

No, you can actually do serious damage that way ( although rarer than many people think). A few cracked ribs and we had to quit killball (dodgeball played with a softball) when I went to school. I know some of you doubtless think I'm a wimp and will tell me like my mother did that "[T]here's no fun in the games until someone puts an eye out", but I favor the idea that stretchers in schools are like fire extingushers, necessary but you don't want to need them every day.


I remember we played "Friendship" Ball, and your were supposed to chuck some of the soft balls at each other, it then got changed to battle ball in Jr high, but still fun to whip the ball at fat kids (Im extreamly athletic :) )

Because its a cruel and pointless activity for many. I have no problem with the kids who WANT to play it playing it. But those who don't want to shouldn't be forced to (like many were/are). Not that they should be allowed to sit on the side lines. They should be required to participate in some other physical activity. And I'd be willing to bet that once the geeky and weaker kids opt out, a lot of the other kids will lose interest in it as for many of them the whole point of playing it is just to beat the crap out of the "losers."


Yes but if your one of the athletic kids, it is very fun to smack the hell outta people with the ball.

Perhaps the rules are different from region to region or have changed over the years. But back when I was a kid (70s-80s in Texas) when one team dropped below 5 or 6 members due to losses, the winning team was told to cross the line and whallop the crap out of the remaining opponents at close range. To throw the ball as hard as possible at close range was encouraged by the P.E. teacher. I never understod the point to that.


To make you feel worse

What is happening is that kids, because they are mollycoddled, are doing more daring things outside of home and school as there is a need for danger in any kids life. From playing chicken with trains to the rise of extreme sports it is all there to see.

I'm 16 and even I can see that things are getting ridiculous. If people can't cope with a simple game of dodgeball then they really need to get a prip. My dad's always been the type who's focused on toughening me up. For example, when he thinks I need to be punished he makes me do loads of push ups until I drop! It's no fun when he does it, but when I think about it it's probably a good thing that I haven't turned out to be a sissy like these people!

When did teachers become pansies?

Around the same time kids did.

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?

Welcome to the politically correct world. Teachers cannot teach because they do not control their classrooms anymore. Parents do. I know that in the school where my wife worked a teacher wouldn't fail anyone because he had once and the parents screamed RACISM. (The Principal ignored the fact that both the student and the teacher were black. She just said, "Jim, we don't need a law suit here.")

I'm sorry, but that's just gay. :rolleyes:

I can't really express my opinion any more concisely.

That's because you didn't have the friendship circle when you were a kid and could have learned to speak your mind a bit more eloquently. :D

Perhaps the rules are different from region to region or have changed over the years. But back when I was a kid (70s-80s in Texas) when one team dropped below 5 or 6 members due to losses, the winning team was told to cross the line and whallop the crap out of the remaining opponents at close range. To throw the ball as hard as possible at close range was encouraged by the P.E. teacher. I never understod the point to that.

To make you feel worse

To encourage gun ownership. "You pointn' that ball at me boy?"

Changing the color doesn't make sense to me, wouldn't kids just ignore it like they ignored the red ink?

Not to mention the only reason that red ink is the slightest bit upsetting to anyone is that it means you're doing something wrong. If you change the color all that's going to happen is that kids are going to hate lavender and won't notice a bunch of their mistakes because lavender is so much harder to see than red ink.

It's as stupid as when they talked about changing 'F' to 'needs re-teaching.' 'F' is only an upsetting thing to see because it means you screwed up and have to do it again. It doesn't matter what you call it it matters what it means. That's why minorities come up with a new name for themselves every time they feel they're the subject of a new wave of racism, and why it never helps.

Besides, clearly if they got an F then you can't re-teach because they didn't get taught the first time.

Because its a cruel and pointless activity for many. I have no problem with the kids who WANT to play it playing it. But those who don't want to shouldn't be forced to (like many were/are). Not that they should be allowed to sit on the side lines. They should be required to participate in some other physical activity. And I'd be willing to bet that once the geeky and weaker kids opt out, a lot of the other kids will lose interest in it as for many of them the whole point of playing it is just to beat the crap out of the "losers."

Not really, considering only the athletic kids make it into the middle of the circle because they're the only ones able to hit someone. Hence if one of the weaker kids gets the ball he/she doesn't have to throw it they can pass it to the person next to them or simply roll it across. I remember that was the case for a lot of kids when I was young.

Also wouldn't spelling bees hold the same context for the less intellegent kids. Kids who are less able than the others are forced to stand in the front of the class and are promptly humiliated because they misspelled a word. That's one of the many reason bullies begin to develop animosity toward the smarter kids. At an early age before bullying truly emerges most bullies are the smart ass arrogant kids who tease the poor, dirty, "dumb" kid. The bully war is more than one sided.

Not to mention the only reason that red ink is the slightest bit upsetting to anyone is that it means you're doing something wrong. If you change the color all that's going to happen is that kids are going to hate lavender and won't notice a bunch of their mistakes because lavender is so much harder to see than red ink.

It's as stupid as when they talked about changing 'F' to 'needs re-teaching.' 'F' is only an upsetting thing to see because it means you screwed up and have to do it again. It doesn't matter what you call it it matters what it means. That's why minorities come up with a new name for themselves every time they feel they're the subject of a new wave of racism, and why it never helps.

Besides, clearly if they got an F then you can't re-teach because they didn't get taught the first time.


Despite my massive amount of knowledge i have on modern military equipment, that really dosn't help me in school (Hey ! I got an F in health !)

Of course the world is going to 'hell' in a handbasket, and of course the fault is obviously the schools where children spend as much as 6 hours a day! Right!

I'm sorry to say this but beating children has never, and will never, make the child 'good.' In the Senegalese novel "God's Bits of Wood" the author, Sembène Ousmane has a child who is about to be beaten ask her mother: is this beating to teach me or to hurt me? (I paraphrase.)

And if teachers and school administrators try to make the school a friendlier place, one that is less confrontational, that is certainly for the best.

When will a child finally learn that the world is not a nice place, full of friendly people? He/she has probably already learned that lesson by being around other children.
:)

Yes but if your one of the athletic kids, it is very fun to smack the hell outta people with the ball.

Yea, I was awesome at dodgeball, always the last kid standing. Ironically everyone thought I wasn't athletic so I was always picked last. The last laugh as you peg the captian of the basketball team is quite a thrill!!!

Not really, considering only the athletic kids make it into the middle of the circle because they're the only ones able to hit someone. Hence if one of the weaker kids gets the ball he/she doesn't have to throw it they can pass it to the person next to them or simply roll it across. I remember that was the case for a lot of kids when I was young.

Also wouldn't spelling bees hold the same context for the less intellegent kids. Kids who are less able than the others are forced to stand in the front of the class and are promptly humiliated because they misspelled a word. That's one of the many reason bullies begin to develop animosity toward the smarter kids. At an early age before bullying truly emerges most bullies are the smart ass arrogant kids who tease the poor, dirty, "dumb" kid. The bully war is more than one sided.

combine the games. SPELLING DODGEBALL!!!

Rules.
spell the word correctly and throw the ball at the other team.
spelt wrong and your disqualified.
rest of dodge ball rules apply.

actually this would be a brilliant game!!

Though the best childhood game that ultimately got banned was what us soccer(football for the nonAmericans) players did for fun; a friendly game of ASS. Juggle around then whoever messes up three times gets shot at by everyone else playing. Could leave some good welts with a soccer ball.

I remember we played "Friendship" Ball, and your were supposed to chuck some of the soft balls at each other, it then got changed to battle ball in Jr high, but still fun to whip the ball at fat kids (Im extreamly athletic :) )
Ah, the fellow we sportsmanlike people ganged up on because you were so mean. There's no sense of accomplishment in racking up numbers among the easy kills, you have to go for the hard ones - when you get the person who was last on his side for 3 days running, that is a feat worth feeling good about. It really is mean to enjoy taking out the targets, you can enjoy the sport itself or enjoy the sense of accomplishment from beating someone who is difficult, but to enjoy defeating one who is no challenge?

As for soft ball, I intended the ball from the variation of baseball called softball, a larger and relatively softer baseball. Had to change the rules to include no aiming for the head, and it can still crack ribs (as we discovered). Those suckers are painful even to catch barehanded, and you could tell when you got whalloped with one of those. Come to think of it, I don't recall any of the non-athletic kids played killball more than once, maybe it was a pretty nasty game.

I hated dodgeball in elementary school because I was such a wimp. I think it builds character though - doing something you don't want to do, and getting your butt kicked in the process.

Most of my teachers were terrible. One of them actually passed me despite my skipping 30+ days of class. Another passed me (and half of the class - shows how bad he was when half of the class was failing) because I begged him to raise my grade on my final test. And then a lot of them were coaches who thought it was cool to do anything but teach (in my area it's mandatory for a coach to be part of school faculty - so I think a lot of people became teachers just so they could coach).

Recently in my area, a teacher lowered the grade of a student who fell asleep in his class - it's part of his class policy and written in the sylubus. The kid's parents, however, complained and the situation was brought to the principle's attention. Their school policy is that a teacher is not allowed to discipline students by lowering their grades. So... he was fired. While he should have paid more attention to the school's policy, I think the school is doing a disservice to itself. We need more teachers like him. Full Article (http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=62772)

11 Lessons Every Kid Should Learn In School (But Don't) (http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/lifesnotfair.html)

We should have the kids having wargames, shooting at each other with airsoft guns (SA-80's, AK-47's, Mp-5's and M-16A2's preferabbly) learn how to flank the enemy, Flashbangs, how to get insergents out of caves, how to speak arabic ! Beat the hell out of Afghan woman ! How to drive an M1A1, Challanger 2, Leclerc, and T-55 ! How to find hookers in foreign countries !

I always found traditional dodge ball to be boring. The phys ed teachers at the middle school I went to had a variation they called "Medic". The class is divided into two teams with one or two people on each team picked to be the medic. The medic was allowed to drag teammates back to their end, which in turn allowed that person to participate again. If your medic(s) got hit you could throw a ball into a basketball hoop in "enemy" territory to return your entire team to active status. The first team to knock everybody on the opposing team down is the winner. The medic doesn't need to be the strong, athletic type as they tend to be well protected by teammates.

11 Lessons Every Kid Should Learn In School (But Don't) (http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/lifesnotfair.html)

Amen!

When did teachers become pansies?
You obviously never had Sören in german. Say 'Ich habe nach der Schweiz gefahren' and he'd start shouting and stuff. We lost half our class after the first term :p

I'm sorry, but that's just gay. :rolleyes:

I can't really express my opinion any more concisely.

I know what you mean. The English language desperately needs a word like "gay" that doesn't mean "homosexual," just to describe situations like this.

I always found traditional dodge ball to be boring. The phys ed teachers at the middle school I went to had a variation they called "Medic". The class is divided into two teams with one or two people on each team picked to be the medic. The medic was allowed to drag teammates back to their end, which in turn allowed that person to participate again. If your medic(s) got hit you could throw a ball into a basketball hoop in "enemy" territory to return your entire team to active status. The first team to knock everybody on the opposing team down is the winner. The medic doesn't need to be the strong, athletic type as they tend to be well protected by teammates.

That was my favorite version, it was like a real live firefight sorta ;)

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating

Huh? What?

I never realised lavender was an ink colour :confused:

This is happening everywhere take my school

-We've had to ban phone because kids where being sent out, calling there parents once they where out and telling them a bag of balls ("Mum, Mr Langhams sent me out for no reason and then said I was a evil nutjob") Then the parents would strom into the school and rant at the head before he had time to see the pupil.

-We've had parents, this is GCSE level reamber, trying to attack a teacher because there kid, who isn't that bright, got a D's on there exams, they claimed that theys ent there kid to my school to get A*'s not to get D's and they thought it was the teachers fault there kid didn't get the level they expected.

-We've had a teacher have mental breakdown after the ehad thried to put up a 'gifted and talented wall', casuing £600 worth of damage.

-Rugbys banned 'too dangerious', just because 1 guy got a broken leg, he wasn't on our team for god sakes!

-As is football,(English) for the same reasons,

-Baseball and softball have been introduced as there is no chance of injury in those sports.

-Shcool trips have been stopped after parents complained, thus ruineing everyones fun ("My simon cut his knee/got depressed/got lossed/was upset)

It's really ruining my school!

Though the best childhood game that ultimately got banned was what us soccer(football for the nonAmericans) players did for fun; a friendly game of ASS. Juggle around then whoever messes up three times gets shot at by everyone else playing. Could leave some good welts with a soccer ball.
We have two similar games. RED ASS and BALLS TO THE WALLS. In red ass you through a large bouncyball at a predetermined wall. If you catch the ball you through it at the wall again. If it hits you then the ground you have to run up and touch the wall. If some else gets throws the ball at the wall before you get to the wall, you have to line up against the wall and the person throws it at your ass as hard as the can. Balls to the walls is basicly the same game but played in a room that is about the size of a public bathroom. Balls to the walls is more fun because it is easier to get hit. The smaller the room the more fun. Anyways as long as we did not force anyone to play we could play redass, but there was no good place for balls to the walls at school.

We have two similar games. RED ASS and BALLS TO THE WALLS. In red ass you through a large bouncyball at a predetermined wall. If you catch the ball you through it at the wall again. If it hits you then the ground you have to run up and touch the wall. If some else gets throws the ball at the wall before you get to the wall, you have to line up against the wall and the person throws it at your ass as hard as the can. Balls to the walls is basicly the same game but played in a room that is about the size of a public bathroom. Balls to the walls is more fun because it is easier to get hit. The smaller the room the more fun. Anyways as long as we did not force anyone to play we could play redass, but there was no good place for balls to the walls at school.

We played Red Ass with tennis balls, pussy. :p

We played Red Ass with tennis balls, pussy. :p
IMO the bouncy ball hurts more. We did not use one of those 1 cm wide balls ours was about 5 cm(2 inch).

Of course the world is going to 'hell' in a handbasket, and of course the fault is obviously the schools where children spend as much as 6 hours a day! Right!

I'm sorry to say this but beating children has never, and will never, make the child 'good.' In the Senegalese novel "God's Bits of Wood" the author, Sembène Ousmane has a child who is about to be beaten ask her mother: is this beating to teach me or to hurt me? (I paraphrase.)

And if teachers and school administrators try to make the school a friendlier place, one that is less confrontational, that is certainly for the best.

When will a child finally learn that the world is not a nice place, full of friendly people? He/she has probably already learned that lesson by being around other children.
:)


You know, there is a middle ground between beating and coudling.


Yea, I was awesome at dodgeball, always the last kid standing. Ironically everyone thought I wasn't athletic so I was always picked last. The last laugh as you peg the captian of the basketball team is quite a thrill!!!


I kicked ass and dodgeball, of the circle, medic, greek, and scatter variety. I was an average thrower, but I could dodge anything that came at me :)

The largest district in the area has consistently outdated materials and the buildings are in need of repairs with many still using 50 year old equipment. The district has problems raising the funds to pay for the renovations needed and the people of the community apparently feel that they do not need to support the schools. The district has sold commercial advertising on the bus fleet for at least 10 years, with no apparent increase in revenue.

My question is when did public education become a secondary expenditure? And while we're at it, why should colleges or the U.S. military teach the kids what they should have learned in grade/secondary schools?

The government's priorities are fucked.

Amestria']That is stupid...



As someone who has played dodge ball as a young kid, I say they shouldent play it. I got hit in the face with one of those balls and it messed up my glasses. I had to go to the nurse and my face was sore for two days.... Or if they play it they should use balls that don't hurt when you get hit with them!

If folk wanna play, they should be allowed to play.

You are an idot! Unless you are educated on something you should not voice your opinion so strongly!

A Teacher

IMO the bouncy ball hurts more. We did not use one of those 1 cm wide balls ours was about 5 cm(2 inch).

Oh, that's not too bad, I was actually thinking of the bigger, inflatable rubber balls. :D

You are an idot! Unless you are educated on something you should not voice your opinion so strongly!

A Teacher

Um, who was that directed at?

Oh, that's not too bad, I was actually thinking of the bigger, inflatable rubber balls. :D
Why play redass with a ball that is incapable of turning someone's ass red?

Have you tried balls to the walls? It is much more fun.

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That is going on my classroom wall and if the boss doesn't like it sod him!!

This is happening everywhere take my school

-We've had to ban phone because kids where being sent out, calling there parents once they where out and telling them a bag of balls ("Mum, Mr Langhams sent me out for no reason and then said I was a evil nutjob") Then the parents would strom into the school and rant at the head before he had time to see the pupil.

-We've had parents, this is GCSE level reamber, trying to attack a teacher because there kid, who isn't that bright, got a D's on there exams, they claimed that theys ent there kid to my school to get A*'s not to get D's and they thought it was the teachers fault there kid didn't get the level they expected.

-We've had a teacher have mental breakdown after the ehad thried to put up a 'gifted and talented wall', casuing £600 worth of damage.

-Rugbys banned 'too dangerious', just because 1 guy got a broken leg, he wasn't on our team for god sakes!

-As is football,(English) for the same reasons,

-Baseball and softball have been introduced as there is no chance of injury in those sports.

-Shcool trips have been stopped after parents complained, thus ruineing everyones fun ("My simon cut his knee/got depressed/got lossed/was upset)

It's really ruining my school!


My primary school has you beat. They managed to ban tag and require everyone to wear a sunhat to be allowed outside. I'm so glad I'm no longer in primary school.

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?


1. My highschool kept running out of red pens --- they finally switched to blue. It was definitely easier on the eyes.

2. When I was in school, dodgeball was optional anyway -- I generally opted out 'cause I had a tendency to get smacked in the face.

3. That would actually help the transition into a normal classroom setting -- it's weird for some kindergarteners to have nap time one year, and not have it ever again in school.

My primary school has you beat. They managed to ban tag and require everyone to wear a sunhat to be allowed outside. I'm so glad I'm no longer in primary school.
Thats been done at my old Primary school. This is a secondary shool where alking about here.

yeah, and at my school they won't let us beat the shit out of the faggots anymore!

hell, they won't even let us say the word "faggot!"

what the fuck?

:sniper: :headbang: :mad:

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?
That reminds me, Maddox hasn't updated in over month! Bastard...

yeah, and at my school they won't let us beat the shit out of the faggots anymore!

hell, they won't even let us say the word "faggot!"

what the fuck?

:sniper: :headbang: :mad:
Swearing always been banned, as has beating people up and I agree with that (Though not the swearing bit) but when sport is banned due to 'safty concerns!' :mad:

What is with n00bs and that Sniper Smily?

What is with n00bs and that Sniper Smily?

It's new and exiting to them

okay, teachers today are scared because if they enforce discipline, parents will sue the school for "abusing their child." parents are going on a rampage to hold a silk cushion for their children to rest their lazy butts on at school.

I feel old.

When I was in kindergarden we always had nap time.

In elementary school we played dodgeball all the time. Even though I was a nerd back then (guess I still am, but I was picked on then) I still loved dodgeball. I was always small and very quick, so I was good at dodging. I still love dodgeball. I'm still fast, and I now have a strong throwing arm.

My first grade teacher told me I was "stupid, lazy, and wouldn't shut up". So much for building self esteem.

Oh yeah, I only graduated elementary school 5 years ago, I'm just a high school junior. Things sure do change in 5 years.

Dodgeball was awesome at my high school, not like anyone in my little town cared about whether or not the kids got hurt. I think it was in my 8th grade PE class, where my class had to play the 7th grade PE class that period. I remember throwing these small red balls, that you could actually grip and they would hook, anyway, I ended up hitting a girl in the face and she doubled over. Next time I saw her she had a black eye. :(

okay, teachers today are scared because if they enforce discipline, parents will sue the school for "abusing their child." parents are going on a rampage to hold a silk cushion for their children to rest their lazy butts on at school.
Indeed. And anything that does go wrong iblamed on them.

Heh. My school just introduced dodgeball at lunchtime.

true. but then it's the parents not really letting their kids grow emotionally to deal with everyday stress.

Wow, that's some kind of warped thought process you've got going on there. See, throughout time children have always been "non-persons" as times have gone by, children have been getting more and more rights, because after all, they are people. Young people who need love and care and affection so that they can grow up to be emotionally stable members of society. Children who get thrown threw chalkboards for fun by teachers don't grow properly emotionally. In fact quit the opposite. I really have to wonder if you even have any children and if you do, I can only hope you don't use these tactics on them, if you do I hope you end up in jail. See, why should it be okay to hit a child, when if you hit any adult they could have you charged with assault, but some how you think it's okay to hit children. Do you advocate cruelty to animals too? :rolleyes:

I have discovered that some schools have implemented some of the following new policies:

1. using LAVENDER ink on test papers instead of red because red is intimidating
2. making dodgeball illeagal during recess in favor of the 'friendship circle' where kids can discuss their feelings.
3. revoking NAP TIME from KINDERGARDENERS (5 year-olds for those not in the know) this isn't pansyish but it is incredibly stupid.

back in the day teachers slapped kids with rulers and tossed them through chalkboards for fun, when did they start caring about children's feelings?
lets see...
Political Correctness
Lawsuits
I think those two sum it up nicely.

lets see...
Political Correctness
Lawsuits
I think those two sum it up nicely.

Does this mean we might have to come up with a new term for teachers?
If so, I was thinking we call them "Minor Minders". If we call them that, we kick the students out at 18 since they apparently think they know everything anyways...

Wow, that's some kind of warped thought process you've got going on there. See, throughout time children have always been "non-persons" as times have gone by, children have been getting more and more rights, because after all, they are people. Young people who need love and care and affection so that they can grow up to be emotionally stable members of society. Children who get thrown threw chalkboards for fun by teachers don't grow properly emotionally. In fact quit the opposite. I really have to wonder if you even have any children and if you do, I can only hope you don't use these tactics on them, if you do I hope you end up in jail. See, why should it be okay to hit a child, when if you hit any adult they could have you charged with assault, but some how you think it's okay to hit children. Do you advocate cruelty to animals too? :rolleyes:

I usully agree with what you have to say, and have found my self on the same side as you in a few arguments, but this time I say stop being such a ninny :p Of course the poster didn't advocate literally throwing kids through chalkboards for fun, but the point was that there is an alarming trend of over-insulating kids, and the result is a group of assholes who don't think they need to answer to anyone, because their parents bully the school into giving them what they want. At the same time, kids are being sheilded from all failure, which is devistating. You cannot grow like that, you cannot mature like that, and it'll be a hard slip in the face when they get out in the real world.

There is a middle ground between beating and coddleing. Both are equally dangerous. Teachers need to have authority.

Do you really think teachers shouldn't be allowed to use red ink, or that kids shouldn't be allowed to play dodgeball or tag? Rediculous

Wow, that's some kind of warped thought process you've got going on there. See, throughout time children have always been "non-persons" as times have gone by, children have been getting more and more rights, because after all, they are people. Young people who need love and care and affection so that they can grow up to be emotionally stable members of society. Children who get thrown threw chalkboards for fun by teachers don't grow properly emotionally. In fact quit the opposite. I really have to wonder if you even have any children and if you do, I can only hope you don't use these tactics on them, if you do I hope you end up in jail. See, why should it be okay to hit a child, when if you hit any adult they could have you charged with assault, but some how you think it's okay to hit children. Do you advocate cruelty to animals too? :rolleyes:

Having fights with your friends is part of being a kid. Anyway as someone pointed out they are talking about secondary school. This is where children should start becoming adults and learn to deal with the real world.

Having fights with your friends is part of being a kid. Anyway as someone pointed out they are talking about secondary school. This is where children should start becoming adults and learn to deal with the real world.
But hitting anyone shouod not be alowd, kids may have fights with there freinds and thats part of being a child, however a adult attacking a child, and thats what corpral punishment is, should never be allowed or justified.

Bah Dodgeball thats not a sport Bullrush is a Sport!
I can still get away with a Nap while im working. :)