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which pov should we have? why?

Bobsvile
30-08-2005, 01:34
i simply want to know:

how has evolution helped science? how has creation helped science? since niether of them help why should any of them be in our science books?

now take a pole.
Nadkor
30-08-2005, 01:37
since niether of them help why should any of them be in our science books?
Because evolution is a near-proven scientific theory supported by thousands of pieces of evidence that helps explain the existence of every living creature on earth, and creationism isn't.


now take a pole.
And do what with him?
CthulhuFhtagn
30-08-2005, 01:39
Evolution has helped science in many ways. Nowadays, anitbiotics and vaccines are made according to evolutionary principles. Evolutionary principles are also used to create circuits that are far better than anything we have ever made.

Creationism has helped science by killing an infant. Wait. That isn't helping science.
Bobsvile
30-08-2005, 01:39
creationism also does explain and has evidence to prove it too. im just trying to be as liberal pov as possible (seeing both sides of the argument) as seeing as the chrstians and non are not going to be liberal!!!
CthulhuFhtagn
30-08-2005, 01:40
creationism also does explain and has evidence to prove it too. im just trying to be as liberal pov as possible (seeing both sides of the argument) as seeing as the chrstians and non are not going to be liberal!!!
There are liberal Christians, kid. And there are Christians who accept evolution.
Brians Test
30-08-2005, 01:41
Evolution has helped science in many ways. Nowadays, anitbiotics and vaccines are made according to evolutionary principles. Evolutionary principles are also used to create circuits that are far better than anything we have ever made.


Since people have been making antibiotics and vaccines were made before evolutionary pricincples were ever even dreamed up, I can't see why the discoveries wouldn't have still been made.
Bobsvile
30-08-2005, 01:41
Evolution has helped science in many ways. Nowadays, anitbiotics and vaccines are made according to evolutionary principles. Evolutionary principles are also used to create circuits that are far better than anything we have ever made.

Creationism has helped science by killing an infant. Wait. That isn't helping science.


1. creationism doesnt say that but evolution has presented that instead. vaccines have been made according to the diseas also. not by the evolution theory.
Bobsvile
30-08-2005, 01:43
There are liberal Christians, kid. And there are Christians who accept evolution.


im a christian tryng to abide by my rule im not debating but merely giving evidence to support both i guess ttyl bye
Neo Kervoskia
30-08-2005, 01:45
I created the universe, end of story.

~Pope Jim I of NationStates~
CthulhuFhtagn
30-08-2005, 01:45
1. creationism doesnt say that but evolution has presented that instead. vaccines have been made according to the diseas also. not by the evolution theory.
Vaccines and antibiotics are now made according to evolutionary principles.

Edit: Here's the story on how rejection of evolution killed a baby. link (http://www.curedisease.com/Perspectives/vol_2_1990/BabyFae.html)
Caer Narath
30-08-2005, 01:51
how has evolution helped science?
Modern medicine (otherwise many vaccines could be made only after a major outbreak.)


how has creation helped science?
It hasn't.


since niether of them help why should any of them be in our science books?
The theory of evolution belongs as it's a supported scientific theorem. Creationism doesn't belong in science books any more than any other myths.

If creationists (and thier intelligent designist brethren) want to be in science books, do some science.
Ashmoria
30-08-2005, 02:17
evolution and genetics have revolutionized biology, paleontolgy, anthropology, and probably other sciences that havent entered my head yet.

creationism is religion not science.
Neo-Anarchists
30-08-2005, 02:18
how has evolution helped science?
Science isn't about whether something helps or not. It is about testing for falsehood of hypothesis in an attempt to determine truth. (perhaps I worded that badly)
Anyway, I have no clue how the theory of evolution has helped science.
how has creation helped science?
I somehow doubt that it has, but I am not sure. Then again, that still doesn't matter.
since niether of them help why should any of them be in our science books?
Because one of them is an internally consistent theory based on a solid bed of facts. The other is an unfalsifiable hypothesis based in belief, without scientific evidence.
Rabid badger men
30-08-2005, 11:58
I'd like to share a little song with you all

"well, there aint no monkey in you,
there aint none in me i know,
there aint no monkeys in kansas,
'coz the school board told me so"

thank you, you've been a wonderful audiance
Helioterra
30-08-2005, 12:05
Which creationism are we talking about?
Oh, Christian of course. But why? It's just one among many other creation stories.
Mazalandia
30-08-2005, 17:25
Evolution is scientifically valid and while may not proven has supporting evidence.
I have nevcer heard any scientist say Well not exist before this point, therefore creationism must be the answer.
Evolution does not invalidate God, merely the explantion given by a book written two thousand odd years ago by people that were not very advanced.
Note I'm not bagging the Bible, but the writer, divinely inspired as he may be, would have no fucking clue how to explain evolution or the creation process and so simplified it.
E2fencer
30-08-2005, 22:53
Modern phenomina explained by evolution:
The peppered moth case
Bunny rabbits taking over Australia
Japanese beetles destroying large amounts of vegitation in parts of the USA.
Anti-bacterial soaps and misperscribed antibiotics creating resistant bacteria.
The HIV virus becoming immune to various medications after extended use in a patient.

Modern phenomina explained by creationism:
*Crickets chirping*
Drunk commies deleted
30-08-2005, 22:58
i simply want to know:

how has evolution helped science? how has creation helped science? since niether of them help why should any of them be in our science books?

now take a pole.
Evolution is the grand unifying theory of Biology. It binds all the facts of biology into a cohesive view of life.

Creationism is primitive superstition that ranks up there with "rain is god's tears" as an explanation.

What are you doing? Directing a porno film?