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Norwegian Understands International Terrorism

Myrmidonisia
29-08-2005, 14:16
Finally, one of those pacifistic Scandanavians have realized that the fact all Muslims aren't terrorists doesn't mean that all terrorists aren't Muslim. He's right, of course, all terrorists ARE Muslim. For the rest of the short article, here's (http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1103526.ece) the link.


"All terrorists are Muslims"
Progress Party leader Carl I. Hagen sees the fight against terrorism as a fight against Islam.

"I know that not all Muslims are terrorists, but we have seen that all terrorists are Muslims," Hagen told Aftenposten after an appearance on TV 2 on Thursday, referring to the attacks in London and New York.


And then he goes on to say that "we must expel people who resist western values and encourage terrorism". I think he gets it. Now, if we could only find a few more legislators in the US that understood the problem.
Seosavists
29-08-2005, 14:25
FARC, provo IRA, other IRAs, ETA, UDA, UVF.
yeah all terroists are moslems all rite
Monkeypimp
29-08-2005, 14:26
FARC, provo IRA, other IRAs, ETA, UDA, UVF.
yeah all terroists are moslems all rite

The IRA were secret muslims.
Helioterra
29-08-2005, 14:27
FARC, provo IRA, other IRAs, ETA, UDA, UVF.
yeah all terroists are moslems all rite
Article: Hagen said that comparisons to Northern Ireland and Basque terrorism in Spain were "national conflicts" that did not fit into the picture.
Kanabia
29-08-2005, 14:28
Article: Hagen said that comparisons to Northern Ireland and Basque terrorism in Spain were "national conflicts" that did not fit into the picture.

Japanese Red Army?
Helioterra
29-08-2005, 14:30
Japanese Red Army?
I don't agree with him. There are terrorists all over the world.
Rhoderick
29-08-2005, 14:30
What about the gang that bombed the King David Hotel in Jeruselm when it was a British Colony? They were Jewish. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, and that applies as much in post 9/11 period as it did before.
Seosavists
29-08-2005, 14:31
Article: Hagen said that comparisons to Northern Ireland and Basque terrorism in Spain were "national conflicts" that did not fit into the picture.
Oh so he made up his own definition.
Jeruselem
29-08-2005, 14:31
Some people have a very narrow definition of "terrorist" it seems.
Kanabia
29-08-2005, 14:31
I don't agree with him. There are terrorists all over the world.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I thought you did. :)

Just sayin'.
Ianarabia
29-08-2005, 14:33
Article: Hagen said that comparisons to Northern Ireland and Basque terrorism in Spain were "national conflicts" that did not fit into the picture.

Where does it say that in this article?

Some one else says something like that...but.
Liskeinland
29-08-2005, 14:33
Yes, of course all terrorists are Muslim. I'm sure the IRA are angry at Britain for invading Iraq. :rolleyes:
Helioterra
29-08-2005, 14:33
Oh so he made up his own definition.
...when you're losing the battle, make up your own definitions...
"oh, that terrorism! I was talking about the other terrorism..."
Helioterra
29-08-2005, 14:34
Where does it say that in this article?

Some one else says something like that...but.
Huh? I copypasted it from that article.
Helioterra
29-08-2005, 14:35
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I thought you did. :)

Just sayin'.
Thought so. Just wanted to make it clear. :)
Seosavists
29-08-2005, 14:37
Huh? I copypasted it from that article.
yeah it's the second paragraph. I managed to miss it too which is strange
Tactical Grace
29-08-2005, 14:50
Jeez, what a dumbass. Tell that to the Colombian government.
Kaze Progressa
29-08-2005, 14:54
I think it's safe to say that the primary, but not sole, force of terrorism threatening entire nations is Muslim in nature.

Nationalist forces (ETA, IRA) appear to be fading, but are still there. The next most significant terrorist force I can think of (admittedly from a UK perspective) is the extremists who have hijacked the animal rights movement - they're dangerous and perhaps becoming more so, but many(except more vocal supporters of animal testing, vivisection, etc.) don't see them as terrorists.

Most Muslims are not terrorists. A few too many are. And not all terrorists are Muslims. It's just that Islamic terrorism is by far the most significant terrorist force we face today.
Ianarabia
29-08-2005, 14:59
Huh? I copypasted it from that article.

Sorry somehow I totally missed that in the article. Apologies.
Refused Party Program
29-08-2005, 15:35
Jeez, what a dumbass. Tell that to the Colombian government.

FARC are clearly Muslim Leninists, while the Colombian government's terrorism is carried out in the name of Islamic Fascism.
Fass
29-08-2005, 15:47
Oh, please! Carl I Hagen is the head of "Fremskrittspartiet" which are nothing but right-wing, xenophobic/racist populist swine. This may as well have been an article on what Jörg Haider or Jean-Marie le Pen think. Worthless.
Refused Party Program
29-08-2005, 15:50
Oh, please! Carl I Hagen is the head of "Fremskrittspartiet" which are nothing but right-wing, xenophobic/racist populist swine. This may as well have been an article on what Jörg Haider or Jean-Marie le Pen think. Worthless.

Maybe he's a Muslim!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!111!!!eleven!slash!!!/?!//?!!
Seosavists
29-08-2005, 15:53
Maybe he's a Muslim!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!111!!eleven!slash!!!/?!//?!!Maybe U is a moslem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHIFT SHIFT+1!1!11111111111111!!
Refused Party Program
29-08-2005, 16:30
Maybe U is a moslem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHIFT SHIFT+1!1!11111111111111!!

OH gNOEz!!!
Myrmidonisia
29-08-2005, 17:42
Oh, please! Carl I Hagen is the head of "Fremskrittspartiet" which are nothing but right-wing, xenophobic/racist populist swine. This may as well have been an article on what Jörg Haider or Jean-Marie le Pen think. Worthless.
But who knows that here? This guy is a representative of the Norwegian government and we must assume that he has some authority in that government. He must also represent the views of some Norwegians, or he wouldn't be serving in the government.
Schrandtopia
29-08-2005, 18:13
Finally, one of those pacifistic Scandanavians have realized that the fact all Muslims aren't terrorists doesn't mean that all terrorists aren't Muslim. He's right, of course, all terrorists ARE Muslim.

they're coming around, Denmark has some troops in Iraq

imagine you're a syrian terrorist sitting in an interrogation room and some snow white, blond haired 7 foot tall Danish chick walks in and starts slamming her hand on the desk demanding to know who paid you
Magnificent Germania
29-08-2005, 18:23
Oh, please! Carl I Hagen is the head of "Fremskrittspartiet" which are nothing but right-wing, xenophobic/racist populist swine. This may as well have been an article on what Jörg Haider or Jean-Marie le Pen think. Worthless.

He is a good man, and he has the right idea. They might even be in the Government this year. And the other right parties support this statement as well. And come on you are from Sweden, all things on the right is racist for you people. And if you think they are xenophobic/racist, you should read about the democrats.
Neo-Anarchists
29-08-2005, 18:25
Finally, one of those pacifistic Scandanavians have realized that the fact all Muslims aren't terrorists doesn't mean that all terrorists aren't Muslim. He's right, of course, all terrorists ARE Muslim.
Where would one get an idea like that?
Cotland
29-08-2005, 18:30
But who knows that here? This guy is a representative of the Norwegian government and we must assume that he has some authority in that government. He must also represent the views of some Norwegians, or he wouldn't be serving in the government.

Eh, no. He's not a representative of the Norwegian government, but he is the leader of one of the largest political parties in the Norwegian Storting (Parliament) and a representative of the people. He is not in the government/cabinet, although that may change in about a month when the elections are due.

Anyway, getting back on topic. As you can see if you read the whole paragraph is that he said that not all muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists that were involved in the 9/11 attacks and the London bombings were muslims. Hence, he tells the truth. Sure, some of the policies in his party may be somewhat radical, but if you look away from the man and on his party and the current situation in Norway, I think that FrP (Fremskrittspartiet, Progress Party in English) is the party that should take control of Norway for the next 4 years although some of their policies are a bit radical/crazy.

Yes, I am a Norwegian, so I know what I'm talking about.
Magnificent Germania
29-08-2005, 19:30
But who knows that here? This guy is a representative of the Norwegian government and we must assume that he has some authority in that government. He must also represent the views of some Norwegians, or he wouldn't be serving in the government.

I would say that such views are pretty common. I have heard that Norway is pretty xenophobic, I have no idea if this is true since I am an ethnic Norwegian, it would be hard for me to say that such things are common.
Myrmidonisia
29-08-2005, 20:07
Eh, no. He's not a representative of the Norwegian government, but he is the leader of one of the largest political parties in the Norwegian Storting (Parliament) and a representative of the people. He is not in the government/cabinet, although that may change in about a month when the elections are due.

Anyway, getting back on topic. As you can see if you read the whole paragraph is that he said that not all muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists that were involved in the 9/11 attacks and the London bombings were muslims. Hence, he tells the truth. Sure, some of the policies in his party may be somewhat radical, but if you look away from the man and on his party and the current situation in Norway, I think that FrP (Fremskrittspartiet, Progress Party in English) is the party that should take control of Norway for the next 4 years although some of their policies are a bit radical/crazy.

Yes, I am a Norwegian, so I know what I'm talking about.

Expulsion of folks that can't adapt to western ideas is the real message that should be promoted. I probably should have made more of a point of that. That's the best from that article.
Kaze Progressa
29-08-2005, 20:07
'"I know that not all Muslims are terrorists, but we have seen that all terrorists are Muslims," Hagen told Aftenposten after an appearance on TV 2 on Thursday, referring to the attacks in London and New York.

Hagen said that comparisons to Northern Ireland and Basque terrorism in Spain were "national conflicts" that did not fit into the picture.'

I guess then that he's focusing purely on international terrorism of the al-Qaeda variety. He's right to say that they're all Muslims, and to distinguish between al-Qaeda and nationalist terrorists... but his comments could very easily be taken out of context, I fear.
Heikoku
30-08-2005, 17:27
Meh. Myrmidonisia views "pacifist" as an insult, so, for him to be lauding a right-wing idiot with no concept of reality that changes definitions to make his excuses-for-points is by no means a surprise.