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None of this Abu Gharib, and G. Bay BS.

We should just do it the old fashion way.

First, send them to our Concen- eeer...Re-Education Camps.

Give the captured Insurgents Adequate Care, while pumping them full of American Propaganda. So yes, there will be no mistreatment, but we still pump them full of Propaganda. Every day, they'll just spend all day being told about how "America is great", and how we are "Bringing Freedom to Iraq.", and all this stuff. They'll side with us lickity split. It worked in WWII, it'll work now.

Every day, they'll just spend all day being told about how "America is great", and how we are "Bringing Freedom to Iraq.", and all this stuff. They'll side with us lickity split. It worked in WWII, it'll work now.
Hell, it worked for North Korea and Vietnam... :rolleyes:

Every day, they'll just spend all day being told about how "America is great", and how we are "Bringing Freedom to Iraq.", and all this stuff.

So you want to treat them like a member of the American public?

So you want to treat them like a member of the American public?

Except we force them to listen it to it...ALLL DAY.

Voice #1: BASH IT! BASH IT!
Voice# 2: But I don't wanna be the ball...
Voice#1: Be the BALL!
Voice#3: Just pretend it's a manatee.
Voice#4: Set'em FREE!!!
Voice#5: Oh, come on...just BASH IT!
Voice#1: GET OUT!! GET OUT!!!
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Okay, I've had a voice conference witht he spirits in my head. They all agree, that it depends on the insurgent. If they killed, then they deserve imprisonment, if not death. However, if they've done lesser crimes, they may have a chance to be "Turned over," so to speak, to "our side."

If that doesn't float your boat - pretend the insurgents are manatees.

Except we force them to listen it to it...ALLL DAY.

Just like they were members of the American public.

Voice #1: BASH IT! BASH IT!
Voice# 2: But I don't wanna be the ball...
Voice#1: Be the BALL!
Voice#3: Just pretend it's a manatee.
Voice#4: Set'em FREE!!!
Voice#5: Oh, come on...just BASH IT!
Voice#1: GET OUT!! GET OUT!!!
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Okay, I've had a voice conference witht he spirits in my head. They all agree, that it depends on the insurgent. If they killed, then they deserve imprisonment, if not death. However, if they've done lesser crimes, they may have a chance to be "Turned over," so to speak, to "our side."

If that doesn't float your boat - pretend the insurgents are manatees.

XD.

But still, they wouldn't be any prisoner mistreatment, we'd pump them full of Propaganda every day, and they would be treated well.

Soon, they would start liking us, and maybe can form an "Iraqi Free Forces" or something. Of course, they're still technically part of us though. :D

Propaganda is a double-edged sword it seems. I mean truly, it would require a lot of time and effort. A fundimentalist (of any nature) is a hard nut the crack, so to get them to like what they're against...would be a long shot, and you'd have to worry about ones that simply play along. Only to backstab later on.

Or youc ould just throw them in shallow water and drive a boat over them (damned manatees).

Actually, threatening to dip our bullets in pig's blood will do very well to scare the hell out of fellow Muslims.

They deserve it if they are trying to murder others anyway.

Actually, threatening to dip our bullets in pig's blood will do very well to scare the hell out of fellow Muslims.

They deserve it if they are trying to murder others anyway.
You're going to jam up the magazine, with all that congealed blood. :p

You're going to jam up the magazine, with all that congealed blood. :p
Exactly. Learn from the British, Colodia. They figured out a way to piss both the muslims and the hindus off on a matter concerning bullets and it ended in the Sepoy Rebellion...

Voice #1: BASH IT! BASH IT!
Voice# 2: But I don't wanna be the ball...
Voice#1: Be the BALL!
Voice#3: Just pretend it's a manatee.
Voice#4: Set'em FREE!!!
Voice#5: Oh, come on...just BASH IT!
Voice#1: GET OUT!! GET OUT!!!
---
Okay, I've had a voice conference witht he spirits in my head. They all agree, that it depends on the insurgent. If they killed, then they deserve imprisonment, if not death. However, if they've done lesser crimes, they may have a chance to be "Turned over," so to speak, to "our side."

If that doesn't float your boat - pretend the insurgents are manatees.

And if they've just had the bad luck to be picked up in a sweep, or purchased for a bounty from middle eastern warlords looking to turn a profit? What should we do with them then?

You know, I did say that they would be treated well. It would be just like any other camp, except with tons of Propaganda.

Execute them. Most of them were raised in terorist school on why America and Israel are evil, try to re-educate them is useless.

Coat the bullets in pig fat and force-feed them bacon for their last meal. Animals.

You're going to jam up the magazine, with all that congealed blood. :p

AKs don't jam, everything else probably ;)

None of this Abu Gharib, and G. Bay BS.

We should just do it the old fashion way.

First, send them to our Concen- eeer...Re-Education Camps.

Give the captured Insurgents Adequate Care, while pumping them full of American Propaganda. So yes, there will be no mistreatment, but we still pump them full of Propaganda. Every day, they'll just spend all day being told about how "America is great", and how we are "Bringing Freedom to Iraq.", and all this stuff. They'll side with us lickity split. It worked in WWII, it'll work now.

We just make them spend a week in Disney World. It'll accomplish the same thing. :p

We just make them spend a week in Disney World. It'll accomplish the same thing. :p

I think there is an admendment banning "Cruel and Unusual Punishment."

I think going to Florida constitutes as Very Very Cruel.

None of this Abu Gharib, and G. Bay BS.


Two words: Tickle Monster

Coat the bullets in pig fat and force-feed them bacon for their last meal. Animals. That's pretty much like raping captured women to humiliate them.

Remember the anti-golden rule? They behead ours on tv, we behead 1000 times as many of theirs.

Remember the anti-golden rule? They behead ours on tv, we behead 1000 times as many of theirs.

This makes you better than them in what sense? :rolleyes:

This makes you better than them in what sense? :rolleyes:

No need to be better. These people have no fear of death, its time we teach them some. Put some fear into their minds.

My second idea is to force them to watch every episode of Painting with Bob Ross until they want to kill themselves.

None of this Abu Gharib, and G. Bay BS.

We should just do it the old fashion way.

First, send them to our Concen- eeer...Re-Education Camps.

Give the captured Insurgents Adequate Care, while pumping them full of American Propaganda. So yes, there will be no mistreatment, but we still pump them full of Propaganda. Every day, they'll just spend all day being told about how "America is great", and how we are "Bringing Freedom to Iraq.", and all this stuff. They'll side with us lickity split. It worked in WWII, it'll work now.
So you advocate mental torture? How nice :rolleyes:

Well you've already got them turned onto british propaganda in the form of Harry Potter books. The captured aren't quote as crazy as those bizzare christian groups who want any books with 'witchcraft' banned...

No need to be better.
This is the first time I have heard this phrased in such a way.
Are you saying that it would be morally wrong? Or am I misinterpreting you?
These people have no fear of death, its time we teach them some. Put some fear into their minds.
I somehow doubt that slaughtering a group of them is going to make those who are already fanatic enough to not care about death fear it any more. All it will do is turn some of the lies that they believe about America into truths, and spur them on.

Insurgents should be treated for what they are, prisoners of war. If they commit war crimes than they should be tried at the ICC. That's it , that's all. Same with Americans who commit war crimes, take them all to the ICC.

This is the first time I have heard this phrased in such a way.
Are you saying that it would be morally wrong? Or am I misinterpreting you?.

No, you've heard me right. My argument is that we should screw the Geneva Convention's policies because our opponents doesn't give a damn about them. The USA was successful during the revolution because its fighters didn't engage in the same set standards which Europe had developed (i.e. drums, flags, decorative uniforms, etc.) Vietnam was lost for the same reason. The whole prisoner rights thing is just a representation of the whole on why America has been unsuccessful in all second half of the 20th century wars. Fighting fire with fire is the only way to win.

I somehow doubt that slaughtering a group of them is going to make those who are already fanatic enough to not care about death fear it any more. All it will do is turn some of the lies that they believe about America into truths, and spur them on.

I sure all of the terrorrists hearing that we serve coffee and donuts every morning (sarcasm so don't wigout) ain't gonna make them fear terrorizing us. Hmmm. . . logic class again (or should I say modern morality). We bomb building, subways, etc and we live, get captured and no real punishment except for better conditions than a big desert or get captured and tortured. Hmmm. . . if I was a human what would I be more willing to accept??? Hmm...

No, you've heard me right. My argument is that we should screw the Geneva Convention's policies because our opponents doesn't give a damn about them.

Then you become no better than the people you claim to be terrorists.

I sure all of the terrorrists hearing that we serve coffee and donuts every morning (sarcasm so don't wigout) ain't gonna make them fear terrorizing us. Hmmm. . . logic class again (or should I say modern morality). We bomb building, subways, etc and we live, get captured and no real punishment except for better conditions than a big desert or get captured and tortured. Hmmm. . . if I was a human what would I be more willing to accept??? Hmm... Lesson for today: things are not black and white.

Lesson for today: things are not black and white.

They sure as hell think it is. Oh I forgot, we must love the lion who just bit off our arm. How foolish I am!!!

Remember the anti-golden rule? They behead ours on tv, we behead 1000 times as many of theirs.

we could make it a true American effort by getting Miracle Blade and Ginsu to sponsor the videos...

"Tonight's terrorist execution is brought to you by the makers of Miracle Blade -- Miracle Blade: Slicing meat since 1932."

They sure as hell think it is. Oh I forgot, we must love the lion who just bit off our arm. How foolish I am!!!

You've killed a hell of a lot more of them than they have of you. Not sure who's biting who's arm at this point.

You've killed a hell of a lot more of them than they have of you. Not sure who's biting who's arm at this point.

Those who play with fire must expect to get burned. If they expected to attack us and then our forgiveness, sorry about their luck.

We should decorate cells with as many objects as possible, like computers, books that promote America, iPods, fluffy matresses, and a McDonald's in every prison. This may sound like pampering criminals. I think this is a living hell for them. But if you ask me, this is the most effective form of re-education: showing tangible benefits.

Execute them. Most of them were raised in terorist school on why America and Israel are evil, try to re-educate them is useless.

Coat the bullets in pig fat and force-feed them bacon for their last meal. Animals.

If they can be taught hoW American and Israel are evil,

why can't we put them in Propaganda Re-Education Schools, and teach them to love America.

We should decorate cells with as many objects as possible, like computers, books that promote America, iPods, fluffy matresses, and a McDonald's in every prison. This may sound like pampering criminals. I think this is a living hell for them. But if you ask me, this is the most effective form of re-education: showing tangible benefits.

That actually sounds pretty good. While we pump them full of Propaganda.

Those who play with fire must expect to get burned. If they expected to attack us and then our forgiveness, sorry about their luck.

But Iraq never attacked you, you attacked them. It was Al-Qaeda that attacked you, Not Iraq. Saddam ran a very secular country, he and bin Laden didn't even like each other.

I have often thought it was the same as if Russia had attacked the USA and then you turned around and invaded China.. I don't really see what the difference in the situations would of been.

But Iraq never attacked you, you attacked them. It was Al-Qaeda that attacked you, Not Iraq. Saddam ran a very secular country, he and bin Laden didn't even like each other.

I have often thought it was the same as if Russia had attacked the USA and then you turned around and invaded China.. I don't really see what the difference in the situations would of been.

Obviously you are not American, or do not have the American mentality. Not doing what we say is a very offensive move against us.

we pump them full of Propaganda. Every day, they'll just spend all day being told about how "America is great", and how we are "Bringing Freedom to Iraq.", and all this stuff.So you want to treat them like a member of the American public?
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Except we force them to listen it to it...ALLL DAY.Just like they were members of the American public.

hahaha...good stuff Fass.

Obviously you are not American, or do not have the American mentality. Not doing what we say is a very offensive move against us.at least once a day I do "Not do what the US Gov told me"

Bush, You can leak my eyeballs !!

Voice #1: BASH IT! BASH IT!
Voice# 2: But I don't wanna be the ball...
Voice#1: Be the BALL!
Voice#3: Just pretend it's a manatee.
Voice#4: Set'em FREE!!!
Voice#5: Oh, come on...just BASH IT!
Voice#1: GET OUT!! GET OUT!!!
---
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joe cartoon would like a word w/ you :P

Obviously you are not American, or do not have the American mentality. Not doing what we say is a very offensive move against us.

Hahaha, what are you? 12? !!! :rolleyes:

at least once a day I do "Not do what the US Gov told me"

Bush, You can leak my eyeballs !!

Not just corresponding to the American gov though. That policy runs through our blood in all aspects. Though please, a good portion of all I've said is sarcastic and/or hyperbole, as usual.

I think we should have a Proxy War. We'll back Germany in their attempt to retake France.

France HAS weapons of mass destruction. It has the 4th most nukes of any country in the world. Lets back Germany, so they can retake France.

Why don't we just turn them into athiest communists supporting Kim Jong Li and return them to the inssurgents with a note saying,
"It could be a helluva lot worse!"

Obviously you are not American, or do not have the American mentality. Not doing what we say is a very offensive move against us.

rofl, so true.

I think it would just be easier to torture these twisted freaks until they talked.
Plus if they died in the process at least they died for their cause in a cell and not killing my fellow countrymen in the battlefield. See so they still can keep their pride.