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Der Kommandant
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 59% antitolerant, and 57% blindly patriotic

Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.

Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well.

it's been done

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 15% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 19% blindly patriotic
Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

See....Im having the same doubts about my own country, these days.

ADOLF HITLER!

Achtung! You are 46% brainwashworthy, 68% antitolerant, and 90% blindly patriotic
You probably you lack the charisma and intelligence to be Hitler himself, but then again, who knows? You've got a few of the necessary traits, at least. You are crazy, nationalistic, and more proud of your background than you should be.

Right now I am breathing a big sigh of relief that you don't live in Germany in the 1930's, although I guess things couldn't have gone any worse than they did, even with your help. Maybe all this energy that you feel right now could be directed to an end less evil? Are you a Police Officer? Not in my town, I hope.

Sadly, you exceeded expectations on all 3 indicators.

Deutschland: Uber Alles!

Yeah last time around I rated "Expatriate". I just don't feel like taking a quiz right now.

See....Im having the same doubts about my own country, these days.

So you WOULDN'T have been a nazi...?

Assuming you were raised as you were raised as you were now.

Would you have been raised that way THEN..?

It's nice to see that you recognize what you have to select to NOT be a nazi
then, after having been raised as you were NOW, though.

In other words, this "test" proves only that you can learn how not to be
a "bad-guy".

How marvelous for you. :)


-The REAL Iakeo

The Resistance

Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 47% blindly patriotic

Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!



I'm not sure I'm quite as tolerant as they think, and I don't love any people, let alone all people, though it says I do.

Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 57% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Der Kommandant
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 54% antitolerant, and 71% blindly patriotic
Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.

Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well.

My test tracked 3 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 37% on brainwashworthy

You scored higher than 88% on antitolerant

You scored higher than 92% on patriotic

The Everyday German
Achtung! You are 46% brainwashworthy, 18% antitolerant, and 28% blindly patriotic
Had you lived in Germany in the 1930s, you'd have probably just gone along with the flow. Men with guns are surrounding the house next door? The bagel place on the corner's gone? Hmm...whatever.

The data show you're a decent person who's willing to listen to what people of authority tell you. That's what most people are, and in most times and most places, that's ok. But not then; not there.

The sad conclusion: you would've missed your Jewish friends, but you would've done nothing about it. Seriously. But rest assured, you would've forgiven yourself eventually.


There you have it! Apparently I'm an indifferent sheep or so.

So you WOULDN'T have been a nazi...?

Assuming you were raised as you were raised as you were now.

Would you have been raised that way THEN..?

It's nice to see that you recognize what you have to select to NOT be a nazi
then, after having been raised as you were NOW, though.

In other words, this "test" proves only that you can learn how not to be
a "bad-guy".

How marvelous for you. :)


-The REAL Iakeo


I can tell you this much..

To be a Nazi, you had to listen to the rhetoric coming from that party, and actually start correlating it into what you see and hear.
They kept telling you that the Jews were truly in possession of all the money, and power in Germany.
They said that many jews often ventured into alleys and would rape young German girls.....all kinds of crap.

Ive always been able to read between the lines whenever listening to anyone speak in public formats.

Its not that Ive learned how not to be a monster, its that Im ALWAYS skeptical when someone tells me what to believe.

I think that has led me to be a better person.

Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 13% antitolerant, and 9% blindly patriotic

Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 18% antitolerant, and 52% blindly patriotic

Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Cool. :cool:

I can tell you this much..

To be a Nazi, you had to listen to the rhetoric coming from that party, and actually start correlating it into what you see and hear.
They kept telling you that the Jews were truly in possession of all the money, and power in Germany.
They said that many jews often ventured into alleys and would rape young German girls.....all kinds of crap.

Ive always been able to read between the lines whenever listening to anyone speak in public formats.

Its not that Ive learned how not to be a monster, its that Im ALWAYS skeptical when someone tells me what to believe.

I think that has led me to be a better person.

A funny story, my grandad, who passed away last year, saw arnold scwaseneggar (cant spell it) on the tv giving a speech.

My grandad said "This is the first time since 1944 ive seen an austrian immigrant make a crowd cheer" i laughed soooooo much

I scored as an expatriate which is probably what I would do if things got too bad.

I was raised to be more of a Nazi, but through my personal questioning of my beliefs I have turned out to be quite a rebel, so even being raised in Nazi germany I would probably have ended up an anti-statist.

A funny story, my grandad, who passed away last year, saw arnold scwaseneggar (cant spell it) on the tv giving a speech.

My grandad said "This is the first time since 1944 ive seen an austrian immigrant make a crowd cheer" i laughed soooooo much


If it werent scary...it would be funy.

Expatriot.

Ho hum.

All the categories were the same percent, I'm afraid -- 32%. Not very interesting.

Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 86% antitolerant, and 66% blindly patriotic
Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.

Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well.

I never struck myself as antitolerant. I guess I should decrease my patriotism.

The Swine
Achtung! You are 7% brainwashworthy, 50% antitolerant, and 14% blindly patriotic
Sie sind ein Schwein! You would've lived a quiet and consenting civilian life in Germany, while the Nazis stomped all over people you didn't quite care about.

You would never have directly joined the Nazis, basically because (1) you're not so nationalistic, (2) you're not that susceptible to crazy propaganda, and (3) you probably don't have the bloodlust. But you would've appreciated the Party, because you liked how they cleaned out the [insert race you dislike here].

The fact is, you demonstrate too much attachment to and pride of your own kind, be they white & male & straight or whatever. You absolutely would not have stood up to the Germans.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would NOT have STOOD UP to the Nazis. Sorry

Cool, I'm an unpatriotic pig that can't be brainwashed.

I can tell you this much..

To be a Nazi, you had to listen to the rhetoric coming from that party, and actually start correlating it into what you see and hear.
They kept telling you that the Jews were truly in possession of all the money, and power in Germany.
They said that many jews often ventured into alleys and would rape young German girls.....all kinds of crap.

Ive always been able to read between the lines whenever listening to anyone speak in public formats.

Its not that Ive learned how not to be a monster, its that Im ALWAYS skeptical when someone tells me what to believe.

I think that has led me to be a better person.

And you were taught to be a questioner of authority. My question to you
is "How were you taught that characteristic?"

The nazis did NOT *TELL* people what to believe,.. they "persuaded" them
into believing things.

To believe that you are simply "superior" to the (nazi persuaded) german
populace of that era is the height of arrogance on your part and a direct
afront and insult to your fellow humanity.

Are you truly superior, and does that not make you yet another variety
of "nazi"..?


-The REAL Iakeo

I'm the Resistance.

Achtung! You are 69% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 71% blindly patriotic
You're not evil exactly, but you still would've joined the German army. Driven by STRONG patriotism and a willingness to do what your country asks, you would've thrown your moral reservations aside and stepped right up to the platz for the AXIS POWERS.

The sad fact is: while you're not self-centered, you are are an enthusiastic nationalist, malleable like so much half-dried glue, and ready to follow zee rules. Unfortunately, you're not cynical enough to tell when you're being manipulated. You probably have a violent itch that needs scratching anyhow, so why ask questions?

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would've supported the Nazis militarily while turning a blind eye to their 'civilian' programs.

I'm a foot soldier. I probably would've joined the German army, but if I had found out about the 'civilian' programs, I would've been ticked at the people who did it and I don't know what I'd do, whether I'd leave the army or not. So, it's partly right and partly wrong, interesting quiz though.

I'd probably be a German General, write down a footnote in my journal that I disapproved of the "civilian programs." Then from that point on, I would ignore it, and distance myself away from them, so after the war, I wouldn't be screwed.

We may die, but La Resistance...LIVES ON!

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 42% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!

They say I would be an expatriate - probably the most accurate considering that I'm Jewish by birth...

hmmmmm less then 5% hit this?

Not by this posts percentages ;)


The Resistance
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 47% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!

"If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country."

...Maybe I need to concider saving up for a plane ticket...

Hi to the OP and the community,

Watch out, this kind of topic is forbidden according to some moderator (KATGANISTAN), watch dozens of results here, last time that the "would you have been a nazi test was posted on General".

Pitty that that mod was such a intolerant that he closed it withouth posting why. Guess this will happen here to because it is exactly the same topic.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434205&page=1&pp=15


Teehee that's quite funny... :D



I to think so, like all people that posted . But Katganistan seems not liking those tests in wich I saw no flaiming at all (seldom here on NS). Give those guys some power and they'll abuse it. Why? I don't know, must be something personal or perhaps because he hasn't brought the popular cupid tests in himself or maybe he just like the little bit of power he has in his life (given here)to close such a topic.(reading the NS regulation, I saw nothing that forbids this).
Well, he can close this one to now, like he did with the Roman one.(he forgot the first one) That kind of people are a good example of the intolerant.Anybody did something wrong to another one here in those tests? Poor thing. - Pauvre type-Arm jochie-

Also see:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread...16&page=1&pp=15




NationStates Moderator Team

Enough with all the copycat test/quizzes.

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 28% blindly patriotic
Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.


Sounds like my kind of thing to do.

Oh, by the way... I call Godwin's Law on the first post.

And you were taught to be a questioner of authority. My question to you
is "How were you taught that characteristic?"

No..in fact I was not taught such lines of thinking.
My mother is not particularly politically motivated, although she is a registered Democrat...and I am certainly not.
Such ability to look objectively cant always be taught to children, its simply a characteristic you are either born with..or without.


The nazis did NOT *TELL* people what to believe,.. they "persuaded" them
into believing things.

No, once Hitler was made Chancellor, the propoganda machine really was in full effect.
They told you what to believe, and if you didnt follow along...you were watched, and if you might cuase trouble...eliminated.

To believe that you are simply "superior" to the (nazi persuaded) german
populace of that era is the height of arrogance on your part and a direct
afront and insult to your fellow humanity.

I really dont like your tone...and to be honest, Im not sure what your talking about. I dont think I ever said I felt superior to anyone.

I said that my way of thinking has made me a better person...by that, I do not mean "Better than you".

Are you truly superior, and does that not make you yet another variety
of "nazi"..?

No...If I felt superior to Jews, it would make me a racist. If I felt superior to Germans..it would make be nationalistic, nothing would make me a Nazi, except having been a member of the National Socialist Party of Germany circa 1920's -1945.

BUT...since I know what you were getting at....

I still say no.

The only time I feel superior to anyone, is if that person is stupid, and I dont mean "has other views than I", I mean....a low IQ.

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 47% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!

Oh, by the way... I call Godwin's Law on the first post.

Wha? the first post doesn't count as a Godwin.....

Oh, by the way... I call Godwin's Law on the first post.

ROFLMAO

ADOLF HITLER
Achtung! You are 53% brainwashworthy, 59% antitolerant, and 66% blindly patriotic
You probably you lack the charisma and intelligence to be Hitler himself, but then again, who knows? You've got a few of the necessary traits, at least. You are crazy, nationalistic, and more proud of your background than you should be.

Right now I am breathing a big sigh of relief that you don't live in Germany in the 1930's, although I guess things couldn't have gone any worse than they did, even with your help. Maybe all this energy that you feel right now could be directed to an end less evil? Are you a Police Officer? Not in my town, I hope.

Sadly, you exceeded expectations on all 3 indicators.

Deutschland: Uber Alles!


I WIN!!!!

Achtung! You are 46% brainwashworthy, 45% antitolerant, and 66% blindly patriotic
You probably you lack the charisma and intelligence to be Hitler himself, but then again, who knows? You've got a few of the necessary traits, at least. You are crazy, nationalistic, and more proud of your background than you should be.

Right now I am breathing a big sigh of relief that you don't live in Germany in the 1930's, although I guess things couldn't have gone any worse than they did, even with your help. Maybe all this energy that you feel right now could be directed to an end less evil? Are you a Police Officer? Not in my town, I hope.

Sadly, you exceeded expectations on all 3 indicators.

Deutschland: Uber Alles!



You scored higher than 65% on brainwashworthy

You scored higher than 67% on antitolerant

You scored higher than 81% on patriotic

My test ended like this:

Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.

I took some of the other test there , which ended like this:

The Suave Lover
40% partner focus, 66% aggressiveness, 50% adventurousness

Based on the results of this test, it is highly likely that:

You prefer your romance and love to be traditional rather than daring or out-of-the-ordinary, you would rather pursue than be pursued and, when it comes to physical love, you concentrate more on enjoying the experience rather than worrying about your performance.

This places you in the Lover Style of: The Suave Lover.

The Suave Lover is a wonderful Lover Style, and is reminiscent of some of the most classic lover figures of all time, such as Casanova or Don Juan, or more recently James Bond (several of the "Bond girls" fit this type, too). This shouldn't be confused with a "player" or someone who is solely interested in physical love, but someone who is looking for an incredibly elusive thing: a worthy partner. The Suave Lover is a treasure to find, but can be incredibly difficult to hold on to, once found.

In terms of physical love, the Suave Lover can sometimes be surprisingly tender. Given the right setting, and the right lover, the Suave Lover can be a delight in bed.

Best Compatibility can probably be found with: The Devoted Lover (most of all) or the Romantic Lover, or the Liberated Lover.

Are your fuckable test

Yeah, you're fuckable. Probably fucked, too. You can be so wild sometimes that you may even be, well, how should I put this nicely, easy. Wild and kinky is good, but you should lean to use it in maderation. Hold out a bit when it comes to having sex with a new person. You don't have to let it all hang out! Sure, people want you, but it's probably because they know they could have you. It's ok to play hard-to-get once and a while. In fact, it makes you even sexier!

The weapon test

Air Strike
You preferred a weapon with 58% power over speed and 83% range over melee.


You use Air Strikes.
Fighting? Fighting is for idiots! All you have to do is make a quick walkie-talkie call and have the ground ahead of you carpeted with explosive charges. Your enemies will be searching frantically for refuge as you chuckle from afar.


The dirty test

Pretty Messy
You scored 79% Dirtiness!
Your score indicates that your mind is on its way to true dirty status. You've passed the test, but there are some things you could work on. You appreciate dirty things and you wouldn't call your thoughts pure, but you haven't gone completely dirty. You don't have a hard time thinking dirty, but you're probably less driven to do so than someone with a true dirty mind.


The leauge test

The Hot League
You are 66% Factor A, and 55% Factor B. Figure that out.
THL, baby woo!

Caliente! Fuego! Espanol! In a way, you're perfect. You've got your look down and the people aroused. You can make people nervous, and whether you admit it or not, you like it. You always keep score, and aim to win.

You could score with any of the other leagues if you wanted to, but they wouldn't cuddle with you afterwards. If you want them to, try expanding your character and adjusting your regimen. Imagine really reading that book, instead of just having it on your shelf. Try flavored lipgloss instead of lipstick (or instead of chapstick, for you dudes). What? Plus, don't cringe when people try to touch you in a platonic way.

Don't tell anyone in the other leagues this, but yours is secretly the best one.

Key:
TCL = The Cute League
TNL = The Nice League
THL = The Hot League
TBL = The Beautiful League

Originally Posted by Oekai
And you were taught to be a questioner of authority. My question to you
is "How were you taught that characteristic?"

No..in fact I was not taught such lines of thinking.
My mother is not particularly politically motivated, although she is a registered Democrat...and I am certainly not.
Such ability to look objectively cant always be taught to children, its simply a characteristic you are either born with..or without.

So that is your inherent superiority to other humans? You were just born that
way? Goody for you mein supermensch..!! :)



The nazis did NOT *TELL* people what to believe,.. they "persuaded" them
into believing things.

No, once Hitler was made Chancellor, the propoganda machine really was in full effect.
They told you what to believe, and if you didnt follow along...you were watched, and if you might cuase trouble...eliminated.

So you were "convinced", against your will, by coersion? That is a form of
persuasion. People do not believe things by being TOLD (without some
reason) to believe them without some "persuasion".



To believe that you are simply "superior" to the (nazi persuaded) german
populace of that era is the height of arrogance on your part and a direct
afront and insult to your fellow humanity.

I really dont like your tone...and to be honest, Im not sure what your talking about. I dont think I ever said I felt superior to anyone.

I said that my way of thinking has made me a better person...by that, I do not mean "Better than you".

If you can read the words above, it is very direct and understandable.

(( side note: You're free to respond to my "tone" as you wish, as that's part
of our conversation. You might question me, though, about the meaning OF
my "tone", if there's a question as to it's meaning. ))

To reiterate: It is an arrogant afront to humanity to think that you are
inherently superior to them. I'm overstating things here, of course, as I
certainly don't think you're particuarly EVIL for thinking yourself superior to
truly evil people who went along with the nazis for gain.

I'm merely saying that assuming you have an inherent quality of "non-nazi-
thinking" is a silly thing to say.



Are you truly superior, and does that not make you yet another variety
of "nazi"..?

No...If I felt superior to Jews, it would make me a racist. If I felt superior to Germans..it would make be nationalistic, nothing would make me a Nazi, except having been a member of the National Socialist Party of Germany circa 1920's -1945.

BUT...since I know what you were getting at....

I still say no.

The only time I feel superior to anyone, is if that person is stupid, and I dont mean "has other views than I", I mean....a low IQ.

And how do you measure this IQ quality..?

My contention is that some qualities of persons can be superiorly effective,
but that there are no inherently superior qualities.

And no one is just "born with resistance to the temptations of evil" in such
quantity as to be perfectly protected from them. The ability to become a
hero in the face of evil is one that is consciously taken on, because of your
personal history.

..and yes,.. I am picking on you. :)

I'm enjoying your reactions to my end of the conversation.

-The REAL Iakeo

Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 22% antitolerant, and 23% blindly patriotic

would have seen the sh*t coming and left the country.

equating patriotism with fascism is stupid.

sounds like an anti-social loser wrote the test

I scored as an Expatriate

Der Kommandant
Achtung! You are 13% brainwashworthy, 90% antitolerant, and 97% blindly patriotic
Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.

Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well.

You scored higher than 4% on brainwashworthy

You scored higher than 98% on antitolerant

You scored higher than 98% on patriotic

Not really surprised by that at all.

-Phil.

equating patriotism with fascism is stupid.

sounds like an anti-social loser wrote the test

I scored as an Expatriate
Except that the fascists were blindly nationalistic and patriotic. Both Hitler and Mussolini promoted blind love of country.

I took it a while ago and got really low scores. It said I would have left. Not surprising since my grandparents fled Germany in the 1930's

"Hey! Don't be nasty! My grandfather died in a concentration camp. He fell off of a guard tower and broke his neck!"-Random IRCer.

"Hey! Don't be nasty! My grandfather died in a concentration camp. He fell off of a guard tower and broke his neck!"-Random IRCer.

Okay, I shouldn't be laughing for several reasons, but I am anyway. :D

Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 22% antitolerant, and 9% blindly patriotic
Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.


Hmmm.... Actually, not suprised. Although, if i was in Germany, in those days, i think i would have chosen a more "passive" resistance, such as harboring people in need, such as jews, in my house, or wherever i could.

Wow i am either an expatriate or if i choose not even slightly racist [i am not racist i just dislike certain ideologies, lol so i said a little lol] anyways i am an expatriate but without my racism i become!!!

ADOLF HITLER

I probably lack the charisma and intelligence to be hitler himself! but who knows! you've got a few of the necessary traits i am crazy nationalistic and more proud of my back ground then i should be [i chose healthy lol]
Right now i am breathinga big sigh of relief you didnt live in the 1930's germany, although i guess things couldnt have got any worse, even with your help. Maybe all this energy i feel right now could be directed to something less Evil! are you a police officer? not in my town i hope

Deutschland Uber Alles! Sadly i exceeded expecations in all indicators <.< yet when i change one answer i am now an expatriate? what gives lol, maybe its the megalomania thinking i am not actually racist lol lol

I don wanna be a Nazi! :(

ADOLF HITLER
Achtung! You are 53% brainwashworthy, 45% antitolerant, and 42% blindly patriotic
You probably you lack the charisma and intelligence to be Hitler himself, but then again, who knows? You've got a few of the necessary traits, at least. You are crazy, nationalistic, and more proud of your background than you should be.

Right now I am breathing a big sigh of relief that you don't live in Germany in the 1930's, although I guess things couldn't have gone any worse than they did, even with your help. Maybe all this energy that you feel right now could be directed to an end less evil? Are you a Police Officer? Not in my town, I hope.

Sadly, you exceeded expectations on all 3 indicators.

Deutschland: Uber Alles!

Phew! I was sure the quiz was going to end up labeling me a sheep. I tried to answer the questions as honestly as possible.

THE RESISTANCE
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 47% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

i was a resistance guy...makes me be proud to be a real american...not a bush or a clinton..but someone with convictions and morals and ....oh..i dont know..a brain?

i was a resistance guy...makes me be proud to be a real american...not a bush or a clinton..but someone with convictions and morals and ....oh..i dont know..a brain?
Great, and I get wanna be Hitler...

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 9% antitolerant, and 23% blindly patriotic
Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 31% antitolerant, and 57% blindly patriotic Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!


:)

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=17675020579094199926

Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 72% antitolerant, and 95% blindly patriotic
Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.

Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well.

No doubt little surprise at the results I got from my "friends" here. Heh, although it was a bit surprising to me the results it gave.

So that is your inherent superiority to other humans? You were just born that
way? Goody for you mein supermensch..!! :)

Im still having a bit of difficulty deciphering where you believe I feel superior to many people.
Only truly stupid people, as I said, and you dont meet many of those.



So you were "convinced", against your will, by coersion? That is a form of
persuasion. People do not believe things by being TOLD (without some
reason) to believe them without some "persuasion".

Sure they do, look at how many people believe God wants Bush to be President, simply becuase he says so.

Ive been using this forum long enough where I want to make some rude comment about your knowledge of history...bad habit, really.
However, I see what youre poking at.
Perusasion is not the same as COERCION.
I can persuade you, for instance, that giving me five dollars, will be a good investment.
Coercion...is twisting your arm until you cough up that damn five bucks!

The Nazis werent much into gentle persuasion...thats kinda the point of fascism.





To reiterate: It is an arrogant afront to humanity to think that you are
inherently superior to them. I'm overstating things here, of course, as I
certainly don't think you're particuarly EVIL for thinking yourself superior to
truly evil people who went along with the nazis for gain.

Hmm..this is a matter of principles, and what qualities we perceive as virtues of humanity.
I believe that the ability to think for ones self, and the power of reason, is always superior to the sheep mentality.
That doesnt mean that those people who do possess those qualities, in themselves are entirely "superior" to those who do not, but rather, and quite simply put....they possess some superior qualities.



Im not the most moral person by anyones standards, but i consider myself a "good" person.
Henceforth, Its easy for me to say that I find the actions of the Nazis, despicable.
I therefore, consider myself to be a "better" individual than those who participated in those actions.
If by definition, "Better" means morally superior.

I'm merely saying that assuming you have an inherent quality of "non-nazi-
thinking" is a silly thing to say.

I dont see why.

Believing in a sytem like National Socialism, is much like being a Christian.
By that, I mean, to be one, you must swallow a lot of rhetoric, and dogma, and accept it without question.

I possess a simply quality that makes me question anything I hear. Particularly, when it involves religion or politics.
Its not uncommon, really.


And how do you measure this IQ quality..?

I prefer the Forest Gump Method.
"Stupid is, as stupid does."

My contention is that some qualities of persons can be superiorly effective, but that there are no inherently superior qualities.

I couldnt agree less.

And no one is just "born with resistance to the temptations of evil" in such
quantity as to be perfectly protected from them. The ability to become a
hero in the face of evil is one that is consciously taken on, because of your
personal history.

Evil, is a pretty subjective term.
And I dont think anyone is completely resistant to any and all temptations.
We all have a price.
However, in the case of Germany, many people were in a sense, enveloped in a sheep-like mentality, fanned with nationalism, and even hatred towards the Jewish people, wich enabled many of them to turn a blind eye to what was taking place.

Im suggesting that Im pretty resistant to that sort of thing, although certainly not immune to it.
Thats why I scored the way I did, on this quiz.
I simply would not have approved of what was taking place..and left.

I hardly think its an affront to humanity to believe that Im morally superior to a Nazi, who were largely lacking in morals or principles.



..and yes,.. I am picking on you. :)

I'm enjoying your reactions to my end of the conversation.

-The REAL Iakeo

*shrug*

Whatever floats yer boat.

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 31% antitolerant, and 23% blindly patriotic

Surprising. I wouldn't've expected to care enough.

Still, moving to Oz or Canada does seem a good idea if Princess Tony and his cronies get much worse.

Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 90% antitolerant, and 76% blindly patriotic
Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.

Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well.

I disagree with the final statement, I would not have served the Nazi's, I refuse to serve anyone, and I can assure you that I would have been a government official, preferably a minister.

ADOLF HITLER
Achtung! You are 46% brainwashworthy, 100% antitolerant, and 85% blindly patriotic
You probably you lack the charisma and intelligence to be Hitler himself, but then again, who knows? You've got a few of the necessary traits, at least. You are crazy, nationalistic, and more proud of your background than you should be.

Right now I am breathing a big sigh of relief that you don't live in Germany in the 1930's, although I guess things couldn't have gone any worse than they did, even with your help. Maybe all this energy that you feel right now could be directed to an end less evil? Are you a Police Officer? Not in my town, I hope.

Sadly, you exceeded expectations on all 3 indicators.
YAY!
Deutschland: Uber Alles!

YAAAAAAAAY!

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 13% antitolerant, and 33% blindly patriotic
Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.
How insightful, it even knows I'm a genius :P

Im still having a bit of difficulty deciphering where you believe I feel superior to many people.
Only truly stupid people, as I said, and you dont meet many of those.

Actually,.. I would agree with you that you ARE indeed superior to truly
stupid (and/or evil :) ) people..!


Sure they do, look at how many people believe God wants Bush to be President, simply becuase he says so.

..and that would be very stupid. Agreed. (We're agreeing quite a bit here,
aren't we..!?


Ive been using this forum long enough where I want to make some rude comment about your knowledge of history...bad habit, really.
However, I see what youre poking at.
Perusasion is not the same as COERCION.
I can persuade you, for instance, that giving me five dollars, will be a good investment.
Coercion...is twisting your arm until you cough up that damn five bucks!

The Nazis werent much into gentle persuasion...thats kinda the point of fascism.

Naw,.. that's OK. You're more than welcome to make rude (or attempted
rude) commentary about my knowledge of history. That's a good
conversation "booster". As long as you do it in a playful way, with the intent
of "prodding" me to think/respond with some interesting thoughts I might
have on the subject.

If it's just a "you poo-poo head!" sort of rudeness, then you needn't bother,
of course. But that CERTAINLY isn't your style,.. I'm quite sure.

ANYWAY,.. Agreed. Persuasion is not the same as Coersion. But Coersion is a
type of Persuasion, and people will often give in to coersive-persuasion when
they won't give in to "conversational"-persuasion.


Hmm..this is a matter of principles, and what qualities we perceive as virtues of humanity.
I believe that the ability to think for ones self, and the power of reason, is always superior to the sheep mentality.
That doesnt mean that those people who do possess those qualities, in themselves are entirely "superior" to those who do not, but rather, and quite simply put....they possess some superior qualities.

I absolutely agree (yet again). Sheep mentality BAD! Think for self GOOD!

BUT,.. succumbing to the "persuasion" (coersive version) of evil is not
necessarily an evil itself. Wait a minute,.. actually,.. yeah,.. I guess it is,
really.

So,.. is it LESS of an evil than succumbing to the "it will benefit me" type of
persuasion? Yes,.. yes it is.

But what determines how "strong" a person is in the face of "evil persuasion"?
It is nothing "inherent" in the individual, but the state of the individual as
influenced by his/her history at the time of the time-of-choice.

I think we can probably agree on that. :)


Im not the most moral person by anyones standards, but i consider myself a "good" person.
Henceforth, Its easy for me to say that I find the actions of the Nazis, despicable.
I therefore, consider myself to be a "better" individual than those who participated in those actions.
If by definition, "Better" means morally superior.

I'd have to know what you (you personally) mean by "moral" to place you on
a scale of morality, of course, which might be fun to talk about, but I'm glad
you consider yourself a good person. I've no reason to disbelieve your
opinion, as you've been very nice to me in not calling me a "nazi bastard" and
ending a very enjoyable conversation.

(( I'm NOT a nazi bastard, by the way. :) ))

The goofy thing, to me, is your statement that you're "better" than those
whom you couldn't possibly have "traded places" with?

They were a product of their times. You are a product of your time. They
might have learned from "similar atrocities" from history before them, but they
didn't, and that is definately a failing.

You sound like you might have actually have learned the lessons that they
didn't, from history before your time.

That is a very good and "superior" thing that you possess over them.

But, as a human being, you are not superior to them. You are merely a human
being with a better grasp of history and it's lessons.


I dont see why.

Believing in a sytem like National Socialism, is much like being a Christian.
By that, I mean, to be one, you must swallow a lot of rhetoric, and dogma, and accept it without question.

I possess a simply quality that makes me question anything I hear. Particularly, when it involves religion or politics.
Its not uncommon, really.

Do I sense a little "animosity", shall we say, towards christianity? :) That's
OK. There's much to be annoyed about it, but you have to remember that
there is no "entity" described by the word "christianity".

I describe myself as a christian, but I have no church but my own beliefs and
those that I share with other people who have overlapping beliefs to mine.

Anyway,.. I agree (once again!) in that accepting ANYTHING without trying
to fit it into your world-view (belief system) is lazy, ineffective, and generally
a BAD IDEA. Not knowing what your tools do, and yet trying to use them is a
great way to hurt yourself and others.


I prefer the Forest Gump Method.
"Stupid is, as stupid does."

Hae ae ae ae... Uh,.. yeah.



My contention is that some qualities of persons can be superiorly effective, but that there are no inherently superior qualities.

I couldnt agree less.

Elaborate please. Since we all possess the same qualities, in varying degrees
of "development" and "potential", since we are all humans, then there is no
contrast to judge a quality as "superior" to some other quality.

Is blue superior over green?

It is the USE to which these qualities are put, and the results of
the "putting", that lends a scale to what is "superior" and "inferior".


Evil, is a pretty subjective term.
And I dont think anyone is completely resistant to any and all temptations.
We all have a price.
However, in the case of Germany, many people were in a sense, enveloped in a sheep-like mentality, fanned with nationalism, and even hatred towards the Jewish people, wich enabled many of them to turn a blind eye to what was taking place.

Im suggesting that Im pretty resistant to that sort of thing, although certainly not immune to it.
Thats why I scored the way I did, on this quiz.
I simply would not have approved of what was taking place..and left.

The problem with that is that YOU cannot have existed in a time that was
not your time, which makes your statement of leaving a place that you
cannot have been utter nonsense..!

There apparently were people there in that time who "resembled" you in that
they DID leave (as you supposedly would have left), but until you are
tempted as YOURSELF in your time, you CANNOT *KNOW* what you would
do, as the subtleties of your time conspire against you to "persuade" you to
do the wrong thing, just as the germans of the nazi times were "persuaded"
into doing the wrong thing.


I hardly think its an affront to humanity to believe that Im morally superior to
a Nazi, who were largely lacking in morals or principles.

Ah,... but nearly ALL of the nazis were "persuaded" (via "payoff" or coersion)
to go along with the dominant power of the time by the aforementioned
subtleties of the times they lived in.

The people (the vast vast majority of them) were people first and nazis
afterward,.. and before they were tested, no one could claim superiority over
them.

I *DO* believe that those, in that time, who *DID* resist the "persuasions"
of the nazis were superior to those who didn't "pass the test",.. but you
cannot claim that same superiority until you yourself are tested during your
time.

You are merely lucky that you've been educated by the object lessons of the
past and are a bit less likely to fall for the same trap. But you are NOT
superior to those that failed their test.



..and yes,.. I am picking on you.

I'm enjoying your reactions to my end of the conversation.

*shrug*

Whatever floats yer boat.

That's the point of conversation, no..? :)


-The REAL Iakeo

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 9% antitolerant, and 4% blindly patriotic

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 23% brainwashworthy, 18% antitolerant, and 38% blindly patriotic
Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 52% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!

Hurray! Take that, Nazis!

Alright, the test is unfair. Patriotism is NOT universally applicable; because I'm patriotic to the US does not mean I'd be patriotic to Germany. Being patriotic and religious does not mean it is easy to brainwash you!

Actually,.. I would agree with you that you ARE indeed superior to truly
stupid (and/or evil :) ) people..!



..and that would be very stupid. Agreed. (We're agreeing quite a bit here,
aren't we..!?



Naw,.. that's OK. You're more than welcome to make rude (or attempted
rude) commentary about my knowledge of history. That's a good
conversation "booster". As long as you do it in a playful way, with the intent
of "prodding" me to think/respond with some interesting thoughts I might
have on the subject.

If it's just a "you poo-poo head!" sort of rudeness, then you needn't bother,
of course. But that CERTAINLY isn't your style,.. I'm quite sure.

ANYWAY,.. Agreed. Persuasion is not the same as Coersion. But Coersion is a
type of Persuasion, and people will often give in to coersive-persuasion when
they won't give in to "conversational"-persuasion.



I absolutely agree (yet again). Sheep mentality BAD! Think for self GOOD!

BUT,.. succumbing to the "persuasion" (coersive version) of evil is not
necessarily an evil itself. Wait a minute,.. actually,.. yeah,.. I guess it is,
really.

So,.. is it LESS of an evil than succumbing to the "it will benefit me" type of
persuasion? Yes,.. yes it is.

But what determines how "strong" a person is in the face of "evil persuasion"?
It is nothing "inherent" in the individual, but the state of the individual as
influenced by his/her history at the time of the time-of-choice.

I think we can probably agree on that. :)



I'd have to know what you (you personally) mean by "moral" to place you on
a scale of morality, of course, which might be fun to talk about, but I'm glad
you consider yourself a good person. I've no reason to disbelieve your
opinion, as you've been very nice to me in not calling me a "nazi bastard" and
ending a very enjoyable conversation.

(( I'm NOT a nazi bastard, by the way. :) ))

The goofy thing, to me, is your statement that you're "better" than those
whom you couldn't possibly have "traded places" with?

They were a product of their times. You are a product of your time. They
might have learned from "similar atrocities" from history before them, but they
didn't, and that is definately a failing.

You sound like you might have actually have learned the lessons that they
didn't, from history before your time.

That is a very good and "superior" thing that you possess over them.

But, as a human being, you are not superior to them. You are merely a human
being with a better grasp of history and it's lessons.



Do I sense a little "animosity", shall we say, towards christianity? :) That's
OK. There's much to be annoyed about it, but you have to remember that
there is no "entity" described by the word "christianity".

I describe myself as a christian, but I have no church but my own beliefs and
those that I share with other people who have overlapping beliefs to mine.

Anyway,.. I agree (once again!) in that accepting ANYTHING without trying
to fit it into your world-view (belief system) is lazy, ineffective, and generally
a BAD IDEA. Not knowing what your tools do, and yet trying to use them is a
great way to hurt yourself and others.



Hae ae ae ae... Uh,.. yeah.



Elaborate please. Since we all possess the same qualities, in varying degrees
of "development" and "potential", since we are all humans, then there is no
contrast to judge a quality as "superior" to some other quality.

Is blue superior over green?

It is the USE to which these qualities are put, and the results of
the "putting", that lends a scale to what is "superior" and "inferior".



The problem with that is that YOU cannot have existed in a time that was
not your time, which makes your statement of leaving a place that you
cannot have been utter nonsense..!

There apparently were people there in that time who "resembled" you in that
they DID leave (as you supposedly would have left), but until you are
tempted as YOURSELF in your time, you CANNOT *KNOW* what you would
do, as the subtleties of your time conspire against you to "persuade" you to
do the wrong thing, just as the germans of the nazi times were "persuaded"
into doing the wrong thing.



Ah,... but nearly ALL of the nazis were "persuaded" (via "payoff" or coersion)
to go along with the dominant power of the time by the aforementioned
subtleties of the times they lived in.

The people (the vast vast majority of them) were people first and nazis
afterward,.. and before they were tested, no one could claim superiority over
them.

I *DO* believe that those, in that time, who *DID* resist the "persuasions"
of the nazis were superior to those who didn't "pass the test",.. but you
cannot claim that same superiority until you yourself are tested during your
time.

You are merely lucky that you've been educated by the object lessons of the
past and are a bit less likely to fall for the same trap. But you are NOT
superior to those that failed their test.



That's the point of conversation, no..? :)


-The REAL Iakeo


Sorry...just found this new post, and I do intend to repsond more in depthly, but I havent slept in almost a day and a half, and my brain is pudding.

I will get back to you.

Funny, I'm one of the 5% who would have resisted Hitler, but would have signed up for Franco, Salazar, Il Duce or the Japanese in a heartbeat...

Alright, the test is unfair. Patriotism is NOT universally applicable; because I'm patriotic to the US does not mean I'd be patriotic to Germany. Being patriotic and religious does not mean it is easy to brainwash you!
Note that it said organized religion. While I'm a supporter of organized religion, that may offer leverage on a lot of people. For a lot of devout men and women a pastor is a man of immense respect, and depending on your preacher, he might well have been a Nazi supporter.

Alright, the test is unfair. Patriotism is NOT universally applicable; because I'm patriotic to the US does not mean I'd be patriotic to Germany. Being patriotic and religious does not mean it is easy to brainwash you!

Hmmm... Let's take a look at these questions...:


The Would You Have Been a Nazi Test

1. Are you emotionally moved by a powerful speaker?
Yes, very!
No more than anyone
No
Is this a bad thing? It's what the speaker says that introduces the
potential "badness", not the fact that the speaker is good at it.


2. Do you take pride in being part of a successful team?
Yes, of course
I'm more of an individualist
I dislike working in groups
What is the team doing? Being in a successful team is in no way a bad thing
in itself.


3. Do you have any ethnic or racial pride?
No
Maybe / not sure
Yes, but I would call it minimal and healthy.
Yes, lots
What is meant by "pride" in this question? I would hope that people are proud
of the (worthy) accomplishments of the people they call "their culture".


4. Do you get a little excited when bad things happen in the news?
Yes
Only sometimes
Only if it's outside my own country
No, never
Excited? As in" spurred to action to make better the 'badness', or what?


5. How much would a horrible disaster in a country not your own bother you?
It doesn't matter where it is! I'd be just as upset.
I'd be a little less upset
I'd be not nearly as upset
I wouldn't be upset at all
Ah,.. these questions are geared toward finding out how "nationalistic" one is.
There is a principle in nature that urgency is directly related to proximity. The
question of whether one decides to act on "disaster" is a function of your
cost/benefit ratio concerning said "disaster". '

If all disasters were considered "equal" in importance, then that poor starving
ostrich who broke her leg in the wilds of the outback would be ranked right
up there with the hurricane victims.

One factor in the cost/benefit equation is "nationalism", whether it's REALLY
close to me and my life or not, but isn't that as it should be.

Those concerned with a problem (disaster) should be the ones to handle it as
they have the most motivation to do a good job in the solution.


6. How much propaganda makes it into public schools, in your country?
What? None.
A little
A lot
I need a definition of "propaganda" here to make sense of this question. The
question SEEMS to be how much influence "special interests" have on the
youth of your locale.

Now THIS is a good gauge of the environment that could produce unthinking
slaves.


7. Are you part of any organized religion?
Yes, very actively
Not very actively
No
Once again,.. what are the principles of this "religion"? I would reword this
question to be broader, such as "do you follow a dogma of any sort which
originates in some 'intelligencia' without question?"


8. If your country were to annex, without violence, another country, how would you feel?
Very proud
Somewhat proud
Indifferent
Worried
Hmmm... THAT is a weird question, as annexation without "violence" is
merely "rectifying a problem that preexisted".

If it is without violence, then it was wanted by both parties. If it wasn't
wanted, it couldn't be without violence, and would be called an invasive
occupation.


9. What if your country annexed another, inferior country, by threat of violence, how would feel then?
Very proud
Somewhat proud
Indifferent
Worried
Why would a rational country want to "annex" another country who didn't
want to be annexed? Sounds like buying lots and lots of trouble to me.
The "benefits" of said annexation would have to be truly enourmous to justify
such an action.

And it doesn't matter if the other country is "inferior" or not. So the question
is what the benefit of doing this would be. Prove to me that it's a REALLY
good thing, and I would agree with it. Although proving that could be REALLY
difficult.

Examples that come to mind:
*) The american south after/during the civil war.
*) The roman provinces.
*) Villages coalescing into nations all over the planet.

Sometimes consolidation is a good thing.


10. Would people of other first-world countries be lucky if they could live in your country instead?
Yes; very lucky!
Maybe; it depends on their country
I don't know
Definitely not
This sounds like "Are you proud of the accomplishments of your country?" to
me.

How is this a bad thing?


11. Think about your country. Would you like to serve it?
Yes; however I could
Yes; but not in an armed service
Not necessarily
No
Now,.. to NOT be a nazi, the implication here is that you should NEVER serve
one's "country", because countries are inherently evil and dangerous.

Hmmmm...


12. Would you risk death for your country?
Yes
Maybe
Probably not...but under some circumstances, maybe
No way
..back to "NEVER serve one's country as it's inherently EVIL..!!"


13. Everyone's a little bit racist.
True. Especially myself.
True.
Not everyone. I am a little, though.
Not everyone. I, for one, am not racist at all.
What does "racist" mean? Without definition, this is simply a gauge of how
annoying one wants to be on the subject of "tolerating cultures other than
yours".


14. Are any of these people deserving of public mistreatment? Read the whole list: gays, foreigners, Jews, Americans, Africans, Asians (you might know them as Orientals), Europeans, protesters, environmentalists, and people who don't put their country above themselves?
Yes, many
1 or 2.
None
Who would admit to unjustified treatment (mis-treatment) [public or
otherwise] of anyone?

This question only identifies truly pathological sadists.

Now,.. if they're DESERVING of not-nice treatment,.. that's another story.


15. How much of what your country's leaders say do you believe?
All or almost all. They're already in power; they have no reason to lie.
Most. Public officials can't always be open, but they're usually honest.
Some. I don't trust politicians, but I don't think they're all bad.
None. I am very cynical about those in power.
Wow,.. the foundation of government is that a regime must produce, or lose
their jobs in favor of some other regime.

If they prove themselves unbelievable, then we lose them.

It's not a question of us BELIEVEING them,.. it's a question of them proving
that they are believable.


16. Your president/prime minister/despot/whatever makes a budget. In it, he or she allocates $4 billion to top-secret defense initiatives. How does this make you feel?
Safer
Hopeful for world domination
Scared
Indifferent
It's top-secret right? Do my representatives (the only folks who have the info
to judge the expenditures effectiveness) find it an effective expense?

He question seems to be "are BLACK-OPS tolerable to you", in reality.


17. Think about it: are you a pushover?
Yeah, I am sometimes
A little, but not more than anyone else
No
I would take DOWN the man who tried to push me around.
Hae ae ae... that's funny. Answer honestly now..!! :D

18. How many languages are you fluent in?
1 or less
2
3
4+
Ah,.. we all know that monoliguals are EVIL..!! Inherently..!!


19. And finally: what's the best thing that could happen to the world, from the following list?
One unified, powerful, peaceful government
Multiple -- although sometimes disagreeing -- governments
War. Survival of the fittest.
Anarchy
I'm a devout capitalist. So I must choose "Multiple", as it's the only one that
doesn't outrightly deny people the freedom to transact as they wish.

Why?

OWG (1WorldGov) is impossible (too complex and anti-human to work).
War sucks for business (voluntary transactions) in the long run.
Anarchy is not only impossible, but an illusion invented by the juvenile to amuse the juvenile, much like an "imaginary friend".


-The REAL Iakeo

Alright, the test is unfair. Patriotism is NOT universally applicable; because I'm patriotic to the US does not mean I'd be patriotic to Germany. Being patriotic and religious does not mean it is easy to brainwash you!


I'll say! Organized religion = brainwashed? Yes, tell that to Aquinas, Augustine and countless other theologians :rolleyes: But hey, this is the internet: Any random person can make any quiz he wants, objectivity be confounded :mad:

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 13% antitolerant, and 19% blindly patriotic
Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi





WOOOOOO! I knew i couldnt be a nazi!

-snip-


Thanks for saving me a lot of time :D

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 42% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!

The Foot Soldier
Achtung! You are 69% brainwashworthy, 18% antitolerant, and 57% blindly patriotic
You're not evil exactly, but you still would've joined the German army. Driven by STRONG patriotism and a willingness to do what your country asks, you would've thrown your moral reservations aside and stepped right up to the platz for the AXIS POWERS.

The sad fact is: while you're not self-centered, you are are an enthusiastic nationalist, malleable like so much half-dried glue, and ready to follow zee rules. Unfortunately, you're not cynical enough to tell when you're being manipulated. You probably have a violent itch that needs scratching anyhow, so why ask questions?

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would've supported the Nazis militarily while turning a blind eye to their 'civilian' programs

meh, it's probably true, i am a bit patriotic and from what i've heard Hitler was a very smart man who had a real way with words and was an amazing public speaker (though obviously he was uber evil and i don't agree with most of what he did)

The Foot Soldier
Achtung! You are 46% brainwashworthy, 22% antitolerant, and 42% blindly patriotic
You're not evil exactly, but you still would've joined the German army. Driven by STRONG patriotism and a willingness to do what your country asks, you would've thrown your moral reservations aside and stepped right up to the platz for the AXIS POWERS.

The sad fact is: while you're not self-centered, you are are an enthusiastic nationalist, malleable like so much half-dried glue, and ready to follow zee rules. Unfortunately, you're not cynical enough to tell when you're being manipulated. You probably have a violent itch that needs scratching anyhow, so why ask questions?

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would've supported the Nazis militarily while turning a blind eye to their 'civilian' programs.

Exellent.

http://is0.okcupid.com/graphics/nazi/soldier.jpg

Hey, I don't smoke!

This photo of "half-Jew" Werner Goldberg, who was blond and blue-eyed, was used by a Nazi propaganda newspaper for its title page. Its caption: "The Ideal German Soldier."

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 9% antitolerant, and 52% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!


Guess being recon would really help them out as well.

But what determines how "strong" a person is in the face of "evil persuasion"?
It is nothing "inherent" in the individual, but the state of the individual as
influenced by his/her history at the time of the time-of-choice.


Its hard to know exactly what anyone would or wouldnt do until they are in that situation, as you point out.
Howevever, knowing me, as I do, I can take some probably accurate guesses.




I'd have to know what you (you personally) mean by "moral" to place you on
a scale of morality, of course, which might be fun to talk about, but I'm glad
you consider yourself a good person. I've no reason to disbelieve your
opinion, as you've been very nice to me in not calling me a "nazi bastard" and
ending a very enjoyable conversation.

No, unless you went around saying the Holocuast was faked or something, you'll get no such attack from me.



The goofy thing, to me, is your statement that you're "better" than those
whom you couldn't possibly have "traded places" with?

Right.
As I said before, its impossible to know what I would have done sixty years ago, but I know the kind of man I am, and who I try to be, and that person isnt one who could go along with the crowd, when that crowd intented to slaughter innocent beings like cattle.

As Daffy once said, "Not this little black duck."

They were a product of their times. You are a product of your time. They
might have learned from "similar atrocities" from history before them, but they
didn't, and that is definately a failing.

You sound like you might have actually have learned the lessons that they
didn't, from history before your time.

That is a very good and "superior" thing that you possess over them.

But, as a human being, you are not superior to them. You are merely a human
being with a better grasp of history and it's lessons.

Superiority, is such a subjective word.
When its used in a conversation involving Nazi-ism, the wrong connantations can be gotten from its use.
I dont mean to imply that I am racially superior to any of them, or genetically superior, merely morally superior.
I am better than those men, becuase I know, with a good deal of reassurance, if not 100% accuracy, that I could not, would not, commit such attrocites.

I value human life.
All of it.
Nazis did not.





Do I sense a little "animosity", shall we say, towards christianity? :) That's
OK. There's much to be annoyed about it, but you have to remember that
there is no "entity" described by the word "christianity".

Yes you do, but only a bit.
Most of the time I try to keep it in check.
However, as I have said there is a similiarity beteen being a nazi and christian.

To do either, you must believe a lot of dogma,and doctrine.

As a Nazi, you must believe in the superiority of the German race, and the sub-humanness of the Jews.
You also had to believe that Hitler was the Fuherer, and the only man who could return Germany to its greatness of ages past.
Much the same in Christianity.
You must accept that Jesus was the son of God, and that he was ressurected after being crucifed on the cross.

Both sets of beliefs sound silly when simplified, and not always easily accepted by all.


Elaborate please. Since we all possess the same qualities, in varying degrees
of "development" and "potential", since we are all humans, then there is no
contrast to judge a quality as "superior" to some other quality.

Thats the thing, not everyone does possess the same qualities.
Not everyone is possessed of the quality of bravery.
Not everyone is possessed with indomitable will.

Some people do have small amounts of these, and some possess none.
Some qualites can be a virtue, when possessed by the right individuals.
Ambition for instance, in the right amount can be a virtue, when it drives us to excel.
When that ambition consumes us, its no longer a virtue.
The ability to weigh such vurtues, and knowing when these things become vice, is inherent, and basically, those people are superior, if only morally, to those who do not know the difference.


The problem with that is that YOU cannot have existed in a time that was
not your time, which makes your statement of leaving a place that you
cannot have been utter nonsense..!

I wouldnt say "utter" nonsense.
Again, I know myself about as well as anyone can.
No..I cant know what I would have done with 100% assurance, but I can be reasonably certain of what my response would have been in most situations, even the hypothetical.
Its a matter of scale.

I dont know what I would do if a I had to kill someone to save a loved one, for instance, but Im pretty sure I couldnt stand by, or help, the slaughter of millions of innocents.

There apparently were people there in that time who "resembled" you in that
they DID leave (as you supposedly would have left), but until you are
tempted as YOURSELF in your time, you CANNOT *KNOW* what you would
do, as the subtleties of your time conspire against you to "persuade" you to
do the wrong thing, just as the germans of the nazi times were "persuaded"
into doing the wrong thing.

See above.



Ah,... but nearly ALL of the nazis were "persuaded" (via "payoff" or coersion)
to go along with the dominant power of the time by the aforementioned
subtleties of the times they lived in.

The Nazis WERE the dominant power of the time.
The S.S were Hitlers elite, the ones who were the most "hard-core".
The average german citizen was not a member of the S.S.

I *DO* believe that those, in that time, who *DID* resist the "persuasions"
of the nazis were superior to those who didn't "pass the test",.. but you
cannot claim that same superiority until you yourself are tested during your
time.

I believe I have been tested, but not nearly in the same manner of severity.

There are many similarities between Germany of the late 30's and America today, despite what many people say.
(Its just the level of evil isnt quite as it was then)


You are merely lucky that you've been educated by the object lessons of the
past and are a bit less likely to fall for the same trap. But you are NOT
superior to those that failed their test.

Lucky?

Sure.

Superior?

Only morally.

In the end, I believe the man who is morally superior, is the one who will not aid, or abett, the wholesale slaughter of innocent people.




That's the point of conversation, no..? :)

Indeed.

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 18% antitolerant, and 52% blindly patriotic

Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 38% brainwashworthy, 18% antitolerant, and 52% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!

Okay, I made it to the resistance. When do I meet the babes in the photo?

The Resistance
Achtung! You are 30% brainwashworthy, 27% antitolerant, and 47% blindly patriotic
Welcome to the Resistance (Der Widerstand)! You believe in freedom, justice, equality, and your country, and you can't be converted to the the dark side.

Breakdown: your Blind Patriotism levels are borderline unhealthy, but you show such a love of people from everywhere and a natural resistance to brainwashing, you would probably focus your energy to fight the Fuehrer with furor, so to speak.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would have taken up ARMS against the oppressors. Or even your friends' oppressors. Congratulations!

Less than 5% of all test takers earn a spot in the Resistance!

I'm just glad I'm not german.

For the cause! For the republic!

The Expatriate
Achtung! You are 7% brainwashworthy, 36% antitolerant, and 9% blindly patriotic
Congratulations! You are not susceptible to brainwashing, your values and cares extend beyond the borders of your own country, and your Blind Patriotism does not reach unhealthy levels. If you had been German in the 30s, you would've left the country.

One bad scenario -- as I hypothetically project you back in time -- is that you just wouldn't have cared one way or the other about Nazism. Maybe politics don't interest you enough. But the fact that you took this test means they probably do. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

Did you know that many of the smartest Germans departed prior to the beginning of World War II, because they knew some evil shit was brewing? Brain Drain. Many of them were scientists. It is very possible you could have been one of them.

Conclusion: born and raised in Germany in the early 1930's, you would not have been a Nazi.

(thing is,I´m one of this districts loudest advocates for violent revolution.Expatriate?No.Person who assassinated Hitler?Yes...)

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=17675020579094199926


:p :p :p :p :p
Opportunistic, patriotic to a fault, and not so fond of people who aren't just like you, you are like a Nazi General. Back in Germany in the 1940's, you would have been at the top of the asshole list. Not for Nazism, necessarily, but for your own sick, twisted values. Then, out of superior intelligence (relative to other Nazis, that is), you would've climbed to the top.

Conclusion: you would have been a Nazi, and most likely would have served them well.

:p :p :p

That test is incredibly poor. I took it and answered honestly, and I got "Expatriate". I then answered in the direction of what the test was leaning toward and I got "Adolf Hitler" with scores of 100%, 81%, 100%. I don't know how I got the 81%. I answered everything to make myself a Nazi.