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more weapon its not the answer! I now many people think only everybody have gun the world were secure.

I dont think so becuse you more weapon you have in the community the risk enlarge to the criminal got one.

If you dont want the criminal to have weapon you have to reduce
quantity of veapon in community.

Its not good if everybody are going to be judge/jury and executioner. were is the justice in that.

I think olso more weapon are going to enlarge the mortality not reduce it. why? becuse if it is a fight and some one have a gun its bigger risk some one
dies and if its not a gun in the fight.

I olso thin knives shall be forbidden in public place ( you can have knife only if you need that in the work but you ned permission from police).

I think only arme,police and hunters have the right to have firearm.

Yes guns have in some case save people, but moste guns kille people and if thay dont have been in the community this people must likely been alive to day.

*Prods the other gun topic*

Development of explicitly non-lethal personal weaponry is the way to go. The west should be devoting whatever in its military budget isn't used for the defensive armed forces towards research on perfecting the technology. Then, you can bring them in and then completely illegalise all other privately-owned firearms.

We'd still have need for manufacturers of such devices, so it won't be a drain on any sort of industry. It'd just mean less death on the streets and a little more work for prison guards.

"I've got a fever and the only prescription is more weapon!"

Somehow your post brought that quote to mind ;)

"I've got a fever and the only prescription is more weapon!"

Somehow your post brought that quote to mind ;)

Remember to explore the space with your weapon!

"I've got a fever and the only prescription is more weapon!"

Somehow your post brought that quote to mind ;)
More cowbell!

Seriously though. Guns don't mostly kill people. Guns are mostly kept in a safe place in private homes and remain unused unless absolutely nessecary.

The thing about legalised guns is that as well as arming normal people, you are also arming potential killers. Not a good thing; it just escalates situations.

Without guns, people would just have to kill each other with different methods then. Ramming down with a car, stabbing with screwdrivers, clubbing with a nail in a stick. Oh the list is endless. :)

I don't think banning guns is a good idea. But tightening gun laws, and also heavily enforcing them is a must.

Like here in Malaysia, if you are found with live ammunation or a pistol without a licence, you can be judged and given maximum the death sentence, for having unlicenced firearms.

Lets face it, you can never totally get rid of guns in a country. To reduce and control is the key factor. Especially make sure it's very tightly controlled.

Lets say, a normal household. The family (husband, wife,2 small children) wouldn't stand a chance against 2 robbers armed with a knife. But having a gun legally would level the playing ground, even if the robbers have guns. Plus the family would have territorial advantage.

Seriously though. Guns don't mostly kill people. Guns are mostly kept in a safe place in private homes and remain unused unless absolutely nessecary.

serioulsy were do you think criminal got thay guns?
from private homes thay steal must of guns.

guns you think save them are the guns ho kill them.

Without guns, people would just have to kill each other with different methods then. Ramming down with a car, stabbing with screwdrivers, clubbing with a nail in a stick. Oh the list is endless. :)

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Its right but more people die of guns an of knive.

More cowbell!

Seriously though. Guns don't mostly kill people. Guns are mostly kept in a safe place in private homes and remain unused unless absolutely nessecary.


The fact that people in private homes have guns,this means the criminals will need guns(at least they'll belive they will).If someone breaks into your house the last thing you should do is try to get a weapon.you should barricade yourself in the room you're in,call out to your family to do the same,then call the police,or loudly pretend to.

When the Garda Siochana was formed in Ireland it was decided not to arm them,this was so criminals would not feel the need to use guns if they knew the police did not have them.Even now the Gardai are only armed with batons(something i've never seen used,but i have little experience with) and radios.There is also an armed Emergency Response Unit.

Lets say, a normal household. The family (husband, wife,2 small children) wouldn't stand a chance against 2 robbers armed with a knife. But having a gun legally would level the playing ground, even if the robbers have guns. Plus the family would have territorial advantage.

Are you suggesting the mother or father shoot it out with the the robbers in this scenario?I'd never fire a weapon in a house with young children if i could possibly avoid it.Even a blade of grass can deflect a bullets course,so can a glass window.(i was told this by a czech colleague,who was a sniper in the czech army and later worked in a weapons manufacturing plant repairing weapons)

Its right but more people die of guns an of knive.

I suppose getting stabbed 20 or so times in the heart or head
isn't fatal at all. Or your throat slit.
Remeber its much quieter to slit their throats
than to shoot. Or smothering.

Firstly, learn to speak the queen's english, bugger.


second, You obviousley have no idea what you're talking about. safety and security are relative things. and each person has the right to be secure in their life and property. sometimes this is only possible when they are armed.


Third, shooting someone is not the same as killing them. I myself have been shot by an angry farmer after he caught a few friends an i harrassing his cow. he shot me in the ass with a shotgun loaded with rocksalt. i never messed with his cow again.

Just because someone has a gun, doesn't mean they'll use it at any given oppritunity. infact, quite the opposite. I have three friends who regularly carry handguns around with them. they have Concealed carry permits, and they are the most reasonable people i know. hell they even got into a fight once, and settled it with their fists. a gun is a weapon, it is to be used only when there is no other option.

Knives? come on. I carry a pocket knife. never once brandiched it as a weapon, never once thought of it as a weapon. knives are tools, Guns are tools.

I've been arouns firearms my entire life. My father used to keep them in his closet, unlocked, and with boxes of ammo. you know how many accidents we had with those guns? zero.

the reason was because i was taught early on that guns are not toys. sure i'd still play with them when nobody was around, but i never loaded them, always meade sure they were unloaded, and i never pointed any gun, even a bb gun, at anything i wasn't fully prepared to blast the crap out of.

You have never even seen a real gun, have you?


Thinking the government has an obligation to your personal safety is a dangerous mindset.

:headbang:
I'm playing with a one hand opening knife that's sharp as a razor and has serrations and a very sharp tip right now. I have a semi automatic rifle, with a bayonet, a grenade launcher (I have no grenades they are illegal), and night sites, laying in the corner of my room. The gun (a Yugoslavian SKS) cost me $135. I go shooting once a week. I can get a hundred rounds of ammo at a local store for $15 and each one can easily take down a deer. I need no liscence or permit to have either. I am 21 years old.

I've been in one fight my entire life. I have no criminal record. Our neighborhood has ZERO violent crime. All of my neighbors have at the very least a shotgun.

Maybe the people in your country are so oppressed that they are angry and cannot handle the responsibility of owning weapons.

If you haven't figured it out yet, I live in the USA.

Eventually if you create so many laws, everyone will become a criminal.

The thing about legalised guns is that as well as arming normal people, you are also arming potential killers. Not a good thing; it just escalates situations.

Yea, and another thing ; the thing about antibiotics is that inoculating everyone only gives germs the opportunity to become resistant. We should stop inoculating people now to prevent the germs from getting even more nasty!

On second thought - both ideas are pretty stupid. Never mind...

I suppose getting stabbed 20 or so times in the heart or head
isn't fatal at all. Or your throat slit.
Remeber its much quieter to slit their throats
than to shoot. Or smothering.

I think i esay to shoot some one and have the curase to slit some one throats.

very few people take knive do that.

More cowbell!

Seriously though. Guns don't mostly kill people. Guns are mostly kept in a safe place in private homes and remain unused unless absolutely nessecary.


No..thats not really true.

Most shooting deaths occur in the home.
Often becuase someone left it within easy reach of someone who was careless with it.

Not everyone takes the proper care to keep a weapon safe.

Also...

I gotta have more cowbell.

Firstly, learn to speak the queen's english, bugger..

I have dyslexia.


second, You obviousley have no idea what you're talking about. safety and security are relative things. and each person has the right to be secure in their life and property. sometimes this is only possible when they are armed.


Third, shooting someone is not the same as killing them. I myself have been shot by an angry farmer after he caught a few friends an i harrassing his cow. he shot me in the ass with a shotgun loaded with rocksalt. i never messed with his cow again...

I dont think farmer have need it violence.

Just because someone has a gun, doesn't mean they'll use it at any given oppritunity. infact, quite the opposite. I have three friends who regularly carry handguns around with them. they have Concealed carry permits, and they are the most reasonable people i know. hell they even got into a fight once, and settled it with their fists. a gun is a weapon, it is to be used only when there is no other option.

Knives? come on. I carry a pocket knife. never once brandiched it as a weapon, never once thought of it as a weapon. knives are tools, Guns are tools.

I've been arouns firearms my entire life. My father used to keep them in his closet, unlocked, and with boxes of ammo. you know how many accidents we had with those guns? zero.

the reason was because i was taught early on that guns are not toys. sure i'd still play with them when nobody was around, but i never loaded them, always meade sure they were unloaded, and i never pointed any gun, even a bb gun, at anything i wasn't fully prepared to blast the crap out of..

becuse you more weapon you have in the community the risk enlarge to the criminal got one. Criminal got the weapon from steal from people like you. The problem its not you but becuse people can easy steal weapon thay can use it in crime.


You have never even seen a real gun, have you?.

Yes my dad is ha hunter and i have done military service.

Thinking the government has an obligation to your personal safety is a dangerous mindset.

Its not good if everybody are going to be judge/jury and executioner. were is the justice in that. I dont want anarchy !

:headbang:
I'm playing with a one hand opening knife that's sharp as a razor and has serrations and a very sharp tip right now. I have a semi automatic rifle, with a bayonet, a grenade launcher (I have no grenades they are illegal), and night sites, laying in the corner of my room. The gun (a Yugoslavian SKS) cost me $135. I go shooting once a week. I can get a hundred rounds of ammo at a local store for $15 and each one can easily take down a deer. I need no liscence or permit to have either. I am 21 years old.

I've been in one fight my entire life. I have no criminal record. Our neighborhood has ZERO violent crime. All of my neighbors have at the very least a shotgun.

Maybe the people in your country are so oppressed that they are angry and cannot handle the responsibility of owning weapons.

If you haven't figured it out yet, I live in the USA.

Eventually if you create so many laws, everyone will become a criminal.

becuse you more weapon you have in the community the risk enlarge to the criminal got one. Criminal got the weapon from steal from people like you. The problem its not you but becuse people can easy steal weapon thay can use it in crime.

why you feel you need shotguns if you have zero crime?

Yea, and another thing ; the thing about antibiotics is that inoculating everyone only gives germs the opportunity to become resistant. We should stop inoculating people now to prevent the germs from getting even more nasty!

On second thought - both ideas are pretty stupid. Never mind...

Its bad similer. antibiotics in wrong hads its not kille people.

Without guns, people would just have to kill each other with different methods then. Ramming down with a car, stabbing with screwdrivers, clubbing with a nail in a stick. Oh the list is endless. :)

I don't think banning guns is a good idea. But tightening gun laws, and also heavily enforcing them is a must.

Like here in Malaysia, if you are found with live ammunation or a pistol without a licence, you can be judged and given maximum the death sentence, for having unlicenced firearms.

Lets face it, you can never totally get rid of guns in a country. To reduce and control is the key factor. Especially make sure it's very tightly controlled.

Lets say, a normal household. The family (husband, wife,2 small children) wouldn't stand a chance against 2 robbers armed with a knife. But having a gun legally would level the playing ground, even if the robbers have guns. Plus the family would have territorial advantage.

if people dont have guns the robbers dont havet it olso.

becuse the robbers got is guns becuse it steal it from people.

Someone set us up the bomb!

Someone set us up the bomb!

You have no chance to survive, make your time.

(We should be careful, or people will be screaming "but AYB is dead! It died 2 years ago!")

Its bad similer. antibiotics in wrong hads its not kille people.
Wow. You completely missed the point. Not even by a little. Completely.

The point left port, and you were at the mall.

Wow.

to secure peace is to prepare for war :sniper:
:mp5:

I'm a hunter.

I hunt Humans.

I deserve a gun.

to secure peace is to prepare for war :sniper:
:mp5:

Yes but you dont start war.

more weapon its not the answer! I now many people think only everybody have gun the world were secure.

I dont think so becuse you more weapon you have in the community the risk enlarge to the criminal got one.

Criminals will be THE FIRST to get the guns. If you have a community of 100
people, and 12 of them are criminals, and the community gun-amount is 6,
who will have those 6 guns? Every other criminal will have a gun, and none of
the peace-loving people will have any guns.

If everyone can have a gun, then at least the criminals have the possibility of
being harassed by peace-loving people with guns when they go about being
criminals.

Nervous criminals are a GOOD thing! Comfortable criminals become slum-
barons, and oppress their communinities into veritable slavery.


If you dont want the criminal to have weapon you have to reduce
quantity of veapon in community.

Its not good if everybody are going to be judge/jury and executioner. were is the justice in that.

Uncontested evil (the bad guys with exlusive use of guns) is NOT preferable
to Lots of guns in peace-loving-citizens hands!

Justice is what happens to criminals (AND non-criminals by the way) AFTER
they have been apprehended and tried for their crimes.

There is NO justice if the criminals are never caught, and never tried.


I think olso more weapon are going to enlarge the mortality not reduce it. why? becuse if it is a fight and some one have a gun its bigger risk some one
dies and if its not a gun in the fight.

I olso thin knives shall be forbidden in public place ( you can have knife only if you need that in the work but you ned permission from police).

I think only arme,police and hunters have the right to have firearm.

Once again, criminals don't respect prohibitions on weapons. That's why
they're "criminals", they want the advantage at any cost.

Sidenote: Americans (real Americans [ouch!]) have a peculiar view of
this "problem". Guns represent (in a very mythic and real way) our spirit of
individual freedom and responsibility. To take away our guns is to take away
a powerful symbol of our wresting power from the "elites" (crown) and
creating ourselves with our own tools from nature itself.

The gun, and the horse, represented respectively "the power to protect and
serve" and "freedom of travel to virgin territory".


Yes guns have in some case save people, but moste guns kille people and if thay dont have been in the community this people must likely been alive to day.

Guns have only two purposes,.. to kill things and hit targets.

As with any tool, it can be used for good or evil,.. and the test of man is in
the USE of his tools, not in the tools themselves.


-The REAL Iakeo

if people dont have guns the robbers dont havet it olso.

becuse the robbers got is guns becuse it steal it from people.

No, they get it from the black market. If people don't have guns (Like MOST here), they get them from neighbouring countries and other illegal means.

Guns would still be everywhere.