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Well, it has arrived. New Orleans, a city below sea level, always worried that a level 5 hurricane would hit them head on. Well, it has arrived. Hurricane Katrina, level 5, 175 mph winds, is on a course headed straight for New Orleans. The city will receive more damage than any other hit by Katrina due to its elevation. The city was planning on building hurricane defenses that could stand a level 5 hurricane, but now its too late. Let us pray for those who have to stay behind, and those who don't believe in God, just hope that they will be safe.

What the hell. I made a thread about this a few minutes ago...

What the hell. I made a thread about this a few minutes ago...zomgs i woz teh 1 2 profficy teh huricaen!!1!1one

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We can only sit and wait, I suppose. All the best to anyone in its path.

Well...fuck.

"The city was planning on building hurricane defenses that could stand a level 5 hurricane, but now its too late. Let us hope for those who have to stay behind, and those who don't believe in Objectivism, just hope that they will be safe."

I'll bet the above sounds about as ridiculous to you as your initial post does to me. Somehow I doubt that anyone's philosophical beliefs are liable to help them live through a hurricane.

That said, this storm kind of reminds me of the last Cat 5 to his that area: Hurricane Camille did it in 1969 and it was pretty bad back then too. That's gotta be just about the worst place in the nation for hurricane strikes, excepting possibly those barrier islands off the coast of North Carolina. Still, the damage incurred by a strike to NO will be far worse anyway...

Sucks for New Orleans.

I personally think that they just thought: "It hasn't happened in 50 years, so it wont happen again. We don't need to do anything about it."

Did anyone read the National Geographic Article a while back on just this subject?

zomgs i woz teh 1 2 profficy teh huricaen!!1!1one

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Okay, I can normally read l33t sp33k, but that was just retarded.

We can only sit and wait, I suppose. All the best to anyone in its path.

Agreed. Good luck to the victims, I know how it is. My home was directly hit by hurricanes three times last year, along with two tornadoes. Never a category 5, though.

"The city was planning on building hurricane defenses that could stand a level 5 hurricane, but now its too late. Let us hope for those who have to stay behind, and those who don't believe in Objectivism, just hope that they will be safe."

I'll bet the above sounds about as ridiculous to you as your initial post does to me. Somehow I doubt that anyone's philosophical beliefs are liable to help them live through a hurricane.

That said, this storm kind of reminds me of the last Cat 5 to his that area: Hurricane Camille did it in 1969 and it was pretty bad back then too. That's gotta be just about the worst place in the nation for hurricane strikes, excepting possibly those barrier islands off the coast of North Carolina. Still, the damage incurred by a strike to NO will be far worse anyway...

Hurricane Camille was the most powerful, when it comes to miles per hour. It hit over 200 mph, but it is expected that Katrina may reach the same power, possibly even higher. Katrina is breaking records here, including the one is it most likely to break, which is the hurricane with the lowest amount of pressure. It even had a chance at beating Hurricane Andrew's record of damage done.

Agreed. Good luck to the victims, I know how it is. My home was directly hit by hurricanes three times last year, along with two tornadoes. Never a category 5, though.


Oy. That sounds like hell to go through.

How'd it all come out in the end? Were you there the entire time? Or did you evacuate?

(I live in Colorado, so the only thing that i really have to deal with is the occasional Super-Cell that comes through.

Okay, I can normally read l33t sp33k, but that was just retarded.That was the point. I was just saying, with thanks to the literal device of complete n00bism, that it seemed a little pointless to argue about who came up with the topic first when you look at what it's about.

So I hope that what defences the targets have hold out enough to keep everyone safe.

Hurricane Camille was the most powerful, when it comes to miles per hour. It hit over 200 mph, but it is expected that Katrina may reach the same power, possibly even higher. Katrina is breaking records here, including the one is it most likely to break, which is the hurricane with the lowest amount of pressure. It even had a chance at beating Hurricane Andrew's record of damage done.
I used to be on top of my hurricane shit, but I must admit I've been sadly lacking the last few seasons. I used to track them and everything, but now I'm so out of the loop this is the second time I've heard Katrina, and the first I've heardof its strength.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9063708/

that's a link to the MSN.com web page about the hurricane.

Aparently the Mayor of New Orleans ordered a mandatory evacuation of the entire city. Sounds like a good idea to me. I heard on NPR this morning that the Superdome or whatever it is might be the shelter for everyone that doesn't have a way out of the city, like the homeless and people without cars...

yep, it is the superdome. I also sounds like the city is going to have a tough time keeping up with pumping water out of the city, and what happens if the power goes out?

I used to be on top of my hurricane shit, but I must admit I've been sadly lacking the last few seasons. I used to track them and everything, but now I'm so out of the loop this is the second time I've heard Katrina, and the first I've heardof its strength.

Same here actually. This time though, the only time I had heard about Katrina was when it was still a tropical storm. Now, it's one of the biggest hurricanes in recorded US history. I gotta get back on track, especially since the amount of hurricanes has been increasing every year.

Oy. That sounds like hell to go through.

How'd it all come out in the end? Were you there the entire time? Or did you evacuate?

(I live in Colorado, so the only thing that i really have to deal with is the occasional Super-Cell that comes through.

The hurricanes weren't so bad, I just dragged in the patio furniture and pool equipment to the garage and stayed safe. The tornadoes scared the shit out of me though. The first formed about 50 yards away while I was outside bringing in the remaining patio chairs, forcing me to scramble inside. I almost decided to dive into the pool, as it's actually a relatively safe place to be when there are strong winds. No electricity for weeks, that was the worst part of the whole experience.

That was the point. I was just saying, with thanks to the literal device of complete n00bism, that it seemed a little pointless to argue about who came up with the topic first when you look at what it's about.

So I hope that what defences the targets have hold out enough to keep everyone safe.

I wasn't starting an argument, merely informing him that I had already opened up a thread. Don't assume that I was trying to brew up trouble. Mocking someone isn't exactly an intelligent thing to do if you want to end a dispute, by the way.

Sucks for New Orleans.

I personally think that they just thought: "It hasn't happened in 50 years, so it wont happen again. We don't need to do anything about it."

Did anyone read the National Geographic Article a while back on just this subject?Having grown up there, I can tell you that that is not the case. The fact is that New Orleans is in perhaps the worst possible place to build a city, below sea-level and between three major bodies of water. The fact is that there's just not an awful lot the city can do other than hope it doesn't happen again. They're on a delta, so there's no bedrock to anchor anything to.

Having grown up there, I can tell you that that is not the case. The fact is that New Orleans is in perhaps the worst possible place to build a city, below sea-level and between three major bodies of water. The fact is that there's just not an awful lot the city can do other than hope it doesn't happen again. They're on a delta, so there's no bedrock to anchor anything to.

Oh. Thanks for correcting me. Are you there now?

The hurricanes weren't so bad, I just dragged in the patio furniture and pool equipment to the garage and stayed safe. The tornadoes scared the shit out of me though. The first formed about 50 yards away while I was outside bringing in the remaining patio chairs, forcing me to scramble inside. I almost decided to dive into the pool, as it's actually a relatively safe place to be when there are strong winds. No electricity for weeks, that was the worst part of the whole experience.

Been there too. Thank GOD for tile floors, eh? They were my only way of cooling off at night until the power came on. Never thought they'd be more comfortable than my bed.

Everyone should pray for the folks in The Big Easy and nearby. The winds will be hell, but the water is going to be worse.

Then the insurance claims process begins - God help them all....

Then the insurance claims process begins - God help them all....

No kidding. That's the thing...5 million different claims to process, with a total worth in the tens of billions, probably. Yikes.

Same here actually. This time though, the only time I had heard about Katrina was when it was still a tropical storm. Now, it's one of the biggest hurricanes in recorded US history. I gotta get back on track, especially since the amount of hurricanes has been increasing every year.
Heh, in the late 90's [I think it was '98] I followed Eduardo up the east cost: I was in SC when it passed near there and I caught it again at Long Island as it headed out to sea. It was kind of strange, I sort of got the impression that I was seeing off an old friend :D

I've still got a piece of driftwood that washed up during the storm, that I found at Long Island.

Looking at the map here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4192218.stm, it looks like Louisiana will get hit a bit. I'm not a weather expert, but it occurs to me that a storm surge wouldn't be very pleasant for those areas, even if they are relatively sparsely populated. What do you guys think the chances are of some wetlands getting submerged? Aerial photos of Bangladesh spring to mind.

Looking at the map here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4192218.stm, it looks like Louisiana will get hit a bit. I'm not a weather expert, but it occurs to me that a storm surge wouldn't be very pleasant for those areas, even if they are relatively sparsely populated. What do you guys think the chances are of some wetlands getting submerged? Aerial photos of Bangladesh spring to mind.

Not pleasant at all. New Orleans is called the "Bowl City" because the elevation of that area looks like a salad bowl. It is 6 feet below sea level with no protection from the storm surge, which is expected to bring in 35ft of water. Anyone who stays there and is not at least on the Fourth floor of a building has a definate possibility of drowning. When hurricane Cammile Mississippi in 1969, it sliced a wedge through one of the barrier islands creating 2 islands. As far as the wetlands are concerned, the entire coast of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama are considered wetlands and will definately be flooded. The damage will be in the multi-billions of dollars with the city of New Orleans and all the casinos on the coast of Mississippi. Good luck Gulf Coasters and please get out now!

Well, it kind of serves em right...who's bright idea was it to build a major city in the middle of soft land that sinks? ...yeah...bound to happen...twas just a matter of time

Well, it kind of serves em right...who's bright idea was it to build a major city in the middle of soft land that sinks? ...yeah...bound to happen...twas just a matter of time
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Well, it has arrived. New Orleans, a city below sea level, always worried that a level 5 hurricane would hit them head on. Well, it has arrived. Hurricane Katrina, level 5, 175 mph winds, is on a course headed straight for New Orleans. The city will receive more damage than any other hit by Katrina due to its elevation. The city was planning on building hurricane defenses that could stand a level 5 hurricane, but now its too late. Let us pray for those who have to stay behind, and those who don't believe in God, just hope that they will be safe.
It is a nightmare scenario. Now the city will flood with a mixture of water, corpses, oil, and raw sewage, and the leevees will probably brake. The pumps in the city may be overloaded even before they loose power. I would have to think back to the Civil War to think of an American city that may be as damaged as New Orleans. My thoughts and prayers are with those that are left in the city, and those that got out and may not have a home. Same for the others in Louisiana and allong the Gulf Shore.

For anyone who's interested in a real time image of the storm, here's a good site http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/satellite.shtml (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/satellite.shtml), GOES Storm Floater 1 is tracking it and the image updates every half hour.