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I just heard the best argument ever in favor of Anorexia. I'm listening to Jim Norton, the angry, dirty commedian. He stated that anorexia kills about 1000 people per year. Obesity kills some 300,000. So if you eat a piece of cake it's three hundred times safer to puke it up.

Jim Norton (http://www.blogger.com/profile/3427846)

Having a stable, wholesome diet is a lot better then starving yourself. Anorexia cannot be justified. Also Norton commits what I call bad comparsion. Obesity effects far more people then anorexia.

Having a stable, wholesome diet is a lot better then starving yourself. Anorexia cannot be justified. Also Norton commits what I call bad comparsion. Obesity effects far more people then anorexia.
He's just a comedian, not a doctor.

I just heard the best argument ever in favor of Anorexia. I'm listening to Jim Norton, the angry, dirty commedian. He stated that anorexia kills about 1000 people per year. Obesity kills some 300,000. So if you eat a piece of cake it's three hundred times safer to puke it up.

Jim Norton (http://www.blogger.com/profile/3427846)

Anorexia are disease and i hope we can exterminate it.

Plus, if your anorexic, you wont be one of those fat, inbred hick Christians in the red states.

He's just a comedian, not a doctor.

Well then he's guilty of bad taste. :p

Well then he's guilty of bad taste. :p
That's why I'm a big fan.

The argument's only valid if there are the same number of obese people as anorexics.

Anorexia, and that one where you puke the food up - bulemi something - have to be the silliest diseases in history.

Anorexia, and that one where you puke the food up - bulemi something - have to be the silliest diseases in history.

Maybe to someone comfortable with their body.

If not... it's a pretty damn serious disease.

it's a joke :rolleyes:

Maybe to someone comfortable with their body.

If not... it's a pretty damn serious disease.

Erm...you can just, you know, start eating. So really my sympathy is limited. I save it for people with cancer and whatnot. Especially as so many people are forced to go without food thorugh no choice of their own.

Erm...you can just, you know, start eating. So really my sympathy is limited. I save it for people with cancer and whatnot. Especially as so many people are forced to go without food thorugh no choice of their own.

Actually, it's REALLY hard to get back into the habit of eating again... not to mention how sick you can get from overeating if you haven't been eating.

It's not as simple as 'start eating' to recover.

I just heard the best argument ever in favor of Anorexia. I'm listening to Jim Norton, the angry, dirty commedian. He stated that anorexia kills about 1000 people per year. Obesity kills some 300,000. So if you eat a piece of cake it's three hundred times safer to puke it up.

Jim Norton (http://www.blogger.com/profile/3427846)

Firstly, if you binge eat and then make yourself sick, you are bulimic, not anorexic.

Secondly, if either group were happy and confident, they wouldn't be obese or bulimic. Advertising and the media in general have a lot to answer for when it comes to impossible to achieve image ideals.

Erm...you can just, you know, start eating. So really my sympathy is limited. I save it for people with cancer and whatnot. Especially as so many people are forced to go without food thorugh no choice of their own.

It's a mental illness that needs treatement. Do you refuse sympathy to cancer or heart disease patients who smoked, ate fatty foods, didn't excercise enough, took too many long distance flights, lived near granite?

Hey, let's make fun of the mentally retarded next to show how superior we are... push little kids down and steal their bicycles... maybe for an encore we can trip a blind guy! :rolleyes:

Sorry if your sarcasm meters just went off the scale...

Antre_Travarious']Plus, if your anorexic, you wont be one of those fat, inbred hick Christians in the red states.
Wow, flamebait much?

I'm a non-fat, non-inbred, non-hick non-Christian in a blue state, and I still found it offensive.

Edit: yay 700 posts! (and yes, I'm aware there are people with 10,000+) Incidentally, post #666 was in a thread debating Evolution vs. ID lol... not that it was much of a debate... but y'all will read it if you want to, so I'll just shaddap.

Hey, let's make fun of the mentally retarded next to show how superior we are... push little kids down and steal their bicycles... maybe for an encore we can trip a blind guy! :rolleyes:

Sorry if your sarcasm meters just went off the scale...
Give me some time. I'm still working on a hilarious post about that little Vietnamese napalm girl from the photo.

I just heard the best argument ever in favor of Anorexia. I'm listening to Jim Norton, the angry, dirty commedian. He stated that anorexia kills about 1000 people per year. Obesity kills some 300,000. So if you eat a piece of cake it's three hundred times safer to puke it up.

Jim Norton (http://www.blogger.com/profile/3427846)
He fucked up the joke, that is bulimia.

He fucked up the joke, that is bulimia.
It doesn't matter. He's still a funny SOB. Click his name in my first post to see his profile.

Erm...you can just, you know, start eating. So really my sympathy is limited. I save it for people with cancer and whatnot. Especially as so many people are forced to go without food thorugh no choice of their own.

If you have mental disturbances is not you choose.

What's truly mentally disturbing are the sites promoting Anorexia as a lifestyle as opposed to an illness.

Pro-Ana Goodness (http://www.plagueangel.net/grotto/id5.html)

There was actually a huge "flamefest" on another forum when someone brought up Anorexia and tried to help someone, when suddenly a group of these pro-ana girlies showed up backing the anorexic girl and "helping her succeed" through the whole anorexia weight-loss and wishing her to "stay strong".

Just sick.

quote- Plus, if your anorexic, you wont be one of those fat, inbred hick Christians in the red states.


I am fat, not inbread or christian. I am also a hick, and you really sound like a liberal idiot. (I am neither republican nor democrat, I sit closer to being a libertarian more than anything else.) :headbang: <<---how I feel when talking to lib morons like you.



everyone else- I think that we have a right to do as we wish woth our bodies, be it stupid or not. The constitution was written for a reason. I think that the anorexics and all other factions of society should be able to do as they wish, as long as it infringes on noone else's rights.

everyone else- I think that we have a right to do as we wish woth our bodies, be it stupid or not. The constitution was written for a reason. I think that the anorexics and all other factions of society should be able to do as they wish, as long as it infringes on noone else's rights.

I'd be inclined to agree with you regarding the fact that we all should be able to do as we wish, as long as it doesn't infringe on the other person's rights, but that sits as well to me as saying, "Let the Drug Addict ruin their life without forcing them to get help."

I would push for the legalization of Drugs, but at the same time, overuse of the drug can kill. Anything in excess, as the adage says. Same with Anorexia. It is directly very harmful to the health of the person, and as such, should at least be encouraged to seek help. It is a sickness, same with the addictions and mental illnesses, and as such, should be worked with as such.

In a way, Norton's right, medically speaking. Anorexia is symptom of a serious mental illness, a stress disorder, where the stress feedback system is "locked on", and the patient cannot relax, but is left under extreme psychological stress. Brain imaging has shown that an anorexic is constantly in the same state normal people would be when escaping from a burning house. This means that the patient loses appetite, and starves.

But, Norton's ultimately wrong. Obesity tends to kill older people instead of young people.

I am fat, not inbread or christian. I am also a hick, and you really sound like a liberal idiot. (I am neither republican nor democrat, I sit closer to being a libertarian more than anything else.) :headbang: <<---how I feel when talking to lib morons like you.


Y'know, for someone who just got upset at someone else's generalization, you're pretty quick to assume they're liberal.

Secondly, if either group were happy and confident, they wouldn't be obese or bulimic. Advertising and the media in general have a lot to answer for when it comes to impossible to achieve image ideals.


Guess what! I'm a happy, confident obese person! And I'm sure I'm not the only one. You've made a common mistake: Assuming that all obese people have low self esteem and are unhappy with their bodies. This is right up there with the other common mistake of thinking that all obese people are lazy, stupid, overeaters who don't exercise.


I'm obese because a medication I took for what eventually turned out to be a misdiagnosis. Some side effects of the medication were that I became disinterested in life, was always hungry, had a drastically slowed metabolism and slept a LOT (20 hours a day.) Throughout the whole thing, I maintained a healthy lifestyle (lots of fruits and veggies, etc. etc.), a positive outlook, high self esteem and good body image and I was (and still am) in great shape. I look in the mirror and I love who I see. This doesn't mean I don't strive to lose weight - I know being obese puts me at greater risk for health problems, but I definitely do NOT strive to achieve the 'ideal' look presented by the media.

Guess what! I'm a happy, confident obese person! And I'm sure I'm not the only one. You've made a common mistake: Assuming that all obese people have low self esteem and are unhappy with their bodies. This is right up there with the other common mistake of thinking that all obese people are lazy, stupid, overeaters who don't exercise.


I'm obese because a medication I took for what eventually turned out to be a misdiagnosis. Some side effects of the medication were that I became disinterested in life, was always hungry, had a drastically slowed metabolism and slept a LOT (20 hours a day.) Throughout the whole thing, I maintained a healthy lifestyle (lots of fruits and veggies, etc. etc.), a positive outlook, high self esteem and good body image and I was (and still am) in great shape. I look in the mirror and I love who I see. This doesn't mean I don't strive to lose weight - I know being obese puts me at greater risk for health problems, but I definitely do NOT strive to achieve the 'ideal' look presented by the media.

How do you eat a Healthy Lifestyle and still be obese? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU COMPARING YOURSELF TO? LINDSAY LOHAN?

Anyways, Anorexia is Natural Selection. You can't be the sharpest marble in the drawer to get Anorexia, and I'm sorry if I sound blunt, but Anorexia isn't a disease. It's like saying extreme stupidty is a disease. It isn't. You're an idiot. Either stop it, or throw yourself up to death. That's the only cure we need.

How do you eat a Healthy Lifestyle and still be obese? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU COMPARING YOURSELF TO? LINDSAY LOHAN?

Anyways, Anorexia is Natural Selection. You can't be the sharpest marble in the drawer to get Anorexia, and I'm sorry if I sound blunt, but Anorexia isn't a disease. It's like saying extreme stupidty is a disease. It isn't. You're an idiot. Either stop it, or throw yourself up to death. That's the only cure we need.


1 - My metabolism slowed down to the point where basically it wasn't working. My doctor told me to maintain the diet that had kept me at 120 pounds my whole adult life, so I did. I more than doubled my weight.

2 - Anorexia is a mental condition. And Bulimia's the one with the throwing up.

1 - My metabolism slowed down to the point where basically it wasn't working. My doctor told me to maintain the diet that had kept me at 120 pounds my whole adult life, so I did. I more than doubled my weight.

2 - Anorexia is a mental condition. And Bulimia's the one with the throwing up.

1. Damn. That's some serious stuff. Ever thought of sueing your doctor?

2. Well, same thing. Honestly, I see no need to treat it. It's basically the same thing. Extreme Stupidity. It's not something you can just cure. It takes time, maturity, and etc. And if they get injured during the learning process, oh well, we can always get another.

1. Damn. That's some serious stuff. Ever thought of sueing your doctor?

2. Well, same thing. Honestly, I see no need to treat it. It's basically the same thing. Extreme Stupidity. It's not something you can just cure. It takes time, maturity, and etc. And if they get injured during the learning process, oh well, we can always get another.

1. No, but I did think about suing the drug company that peddles the crap that they put me on without telling doctors about all the side effects or the effects of withdrawal (That one was REAL fun, let me tell you. 6 months of this freaky temper that I've never had before or since, constant dizziness, no appetite whatsoever ... all SORTS of shit.) The doctor did all she could without admitting she was wrong to put me on it in the first place.

2. I'm fairly sure there are some really smart people who have Anorexia or Bulimia. And you're right, it's not something you can just cure. However, anorexics (for the purposes of this diatribe, 'anorexic' encompasses bulimia too, because I am lazy) are people, too. They aren't replaceable. Anorexia is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - Fourth Edition (DSM-IV) published by the AMA. The DSM-IV is considered a fairly comprehensive list of common mental disorders. So are autism and schizophrenia. Would you tell an autistic or schizophrenic person to learn, get over it, and if they died in the process, they could easily be replaced? Because if anorexia can make it into the DSM-IV, it can't just be dismissed as a simple case of stupidity.

I'm fairly sure there are some really smart people who have Anorexia or Bulimia.

No, smart people realize they have to eat.


And you're right, it's not something you can just cure. However, anorexics (for the purposes of this diatribe, 'anorexic' encompasses bulimia too, because I am lazy) are people, too. They aren't replaceable.

Yes they are. In fact, they are not only "replaceable" they are redundant.


Anorexia is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - Fourth Edition (DSM-IV) published by the AMA. The DSM-IV is considered a fairly comprehensive list of common mental disorders. So are autism and schizophrenia. Would you tell an autistic or schizophrenic person to learn, get over it, and if they died in the process, they could easily be replaced? Because if anorexia can make it into the DSM-IV, it can't just be dismissed as a simple case of stupidity.

Whoopee. It made it into the big book of "I am a total waste of time".

Autistic people are born that way you know. Anorexics are just spoiled little shits.

Okay, I don't think we'll be able to see eye-to-eye on this and I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to care about the argument, which is never good. So ... truce for now and I'll see you around, kay?

obesity is gross and ruining americas reputation, but anerexia is bad too. And its just as gross. Ok when your body needs energy, it will burn carbs. When you have no immediate carbs to burn, your body will burn lipids (stored fats with that contain mucho energy due to the amount of hydrocarbons.) And when you have no lipids to burn (which happens in anerexia) your body burns its only remaining source of energy: the proteins of your muscles and organs. So basically, your body is eating itself from the inside. Burning your muscles and organs away just so you can get through your day. If you are anerexic get help! A. your body is eating itself which is gross B. Anerexic women look gross!

and to neaness's arguement about smart annorexic people, If they're so smart then why did they forget the carbohydrate unit in fresman biology? As far as I'm concerend there is no arguement that supports annerixia that is logical. If you are anerexic get help!

... Okay, Mercenaries, three things.

1 - Thank you SO much for calling me gross. I REALLY love when people do that. Funny, I think I'm fairly cute. Look me up on the pic thread.

2 - It's spelled 'anorexia.' With an 'o' in there.

3 - Not everyone HAS a carbohydrate unit in biology! Actually, where I'm from, you don't take 'freshman biology' unless you're taking science in university. I took 'grade 9 science' and there wasn't a carbohydrate unit. There isn't a 'carbohydrate unit' in the required course track for graduation here. Also, I'm sure there are plenty of smart people who homeschool or unschool, and some of them might develop anorexia! *gasp*

... Okay, Mercenaries, three things.

1 - Thank you SO much for calling me gross. I REALLY love when people do that. Funny, I think I'm fairly cute. Look me up on the pic thread.

2 - It's spelled 'anorexia.' With an 'o' in there.

3 - Not everyone HAS a carbohydrate unit in biology! Actually, where I'm from, you don't take 'freshman biology' unless you're taking science in university. I took 'grade 9 science' and there wasn't a carbohydrate unit. There isn't a 'carbohydrate unit' in the required course track for graduation here. Also, I'm sure there are plenty of smart people who homeschool or unschool, and some of them might develop anorexia! *gasp*

You're not on the pic thread.

You're not on the pic thread.

It might not be up on the list-y thinger yet. Check the past few days.

It might not be up on the list-y thinger yet. Check the past few days.

Yah, too much work. Frankly, after going through the effort of making myself eat some french fries, I have little energy for anything else.

Yah, too much work. Frankly, after going through the effort of making myself eat some french fries, I have little energy for anything else.

Yay fries! Or something.

Yay fries! Or something.

Actually, I did go and look. You have great hair, grow the bangs out though.

Firstly, if you binge eat and then make yourself sick, you are bulimic, not anorexic.

Secondly, if either group were happy and confident, they wouldn't be obese or bulimic. Advertising and the media in general have a lot to answer for when it comes to impossible to achieve image ideals.

so you identify advertising as a root cause of people with a low amount of self esteem? is this because conformity leads to happiness?

Actually, I did go and look. You have great hair, grow the bangs out though.


I love my hair. The bangs were stupid. They're past my chin now. I really need to take new pictures. >.<

I love my hair. The bangs were stupid. They're past my chin now. I really need to take new pictures. >.<

Yah, and as I actually bother my ass to look again, you were growing them out in any case. My bad.

Seriously though, that colour is awesome. And you have that whole "fine" yet thick hair thing going. It looks really good.

Yah, and as I actually bother my ass to look again, you were growing them out in any case. My bad.

Seriously though, that colour is awesome. And you have that whole "fine" yet thick hair thing going. It looks really good.


*grin* Thank you. I have the greatest hair. It looks good and it's soft and mostly doesn't get split ends and doesn't tangle too badly. And it manages to look natural in most shades of blonde and red, too ^.^ I dyed it BRIGHT FREAKING ORANGE a few days ago. Today, I got somebody telling me going on and on about how I was so lucky to end up with this colour ... and I had to convince them it was dyed by showing the tiny roots that are starting to poke through. It grows aburdly fast.


Wow. We've gone from eating disorders to Neaness's hair of awesomeness. I'm getting good at this thread-hijack thing >.<

quote- Plus, if your anorexic, you wont be one of those fat, inbred hick Christians in the red states.


I am fat, not inbread or christian. I am also a hick, and you really sound like a liberal idiot. (I am neither republican nor democrat, I sit closer to being a libertarian more than anything else.) :headbang: <<---how I feel when talking to lib morons like you.



everyone else- I think that we have a right to do as we wish woth our bodies, be it stupid or not. The constitution was written for a reason. I think that the anorexics and all other factions of society should be able to do as they wish, as long as it infringes on noone else's rights.


wait.

you're a libertarian.

but you dislike liberalism.

i'm confused.

well, i'm not really. i'm just amazed at how liberal has managed to be removed from libertarian in such a thorough manner.....but i've been amazed at how so many americans can justify to themselves that saying "you're a freedom-loving liberal!" is an actual insult for some time now....

actually, let me rephrase that.

i've been amazed at how many americans don't actually understand what the word "liberal" actually MEANS for some time now....

clearly, when one calls another a "liberal idiot" it implies that they themself do not believe in liberality.

but wait.

libertarian.

*sigh*

*grin* Thank you. I have the greatest hair. It looks good and it's soft and mostly doesn't get split ends and doesn't tangle too badly. And it manages to look natural in most shades of blonde and red, too ^.^ I dyed it BRIGHT FREAKING ORANGE a few days ago. Today, I got somebody telling me going on and on about how I was so lucky to end up with this colour ... and I had to convince them it was dyed by showing the tiny roots that are starting to poke through. It grows aburdly fast.


Wow. We've gone from eating disorders to Neaness's hair of awesomeness. I'm getting good at this thread-hijack thing >.<

Never dye your hair again. It is naturally so beautiful, nothing can improve it.

You also have green eyes. (at least that is what the photos indicate). Also awesome.

Never dye your hair again. It is naturally so beautiful, nothing can improve it.

You also have green eyes. (at least that is what the photos indicate). Also awesome.

You know what? I'm just gonna stay up all night and soak up praise, okay? ^.^ You're gonna kill me now, but at some point in the future, probably the summer after next, I'm going to shave my head to raise money for cancer. It's killed my grandma, a good friend of mine, and a mentor I had when I was growing up, and various people close to me have survived it, so I have my reasons, and I can probably raise a whole bunch of money. I have strangers asking if they can touch it >.<

My eyes are this really cool dark green with gold flecks. In the sun, they get brighter with this really dark line around. But very few people notice until I point it out, so if I close my eyes all of a sudden and ask someone what colour my eyes are, they'll usually say brown.

You know what? I'm just gonna stay up all night and soak up praise, okay? ^.^ You're gonna kill me now, but at some point in the future, probably the summer after next, I'm going to shave my head to raise money for cancer. It's killed my grandma, a good friend of mine, and a mentor I had when I was growing up, and various people close to me have survived it, so I have my reasons, and I can probably raise a whole bunch of money. I have strangers asking if they can touch it >.<

My eyes are this really cool dark green with gold flecks. In the sun, they get brighter with this really dark line around. But very few people notice until I point it out, so if I close my eyes all of a sudden and ask someone what colour my eyes are, they'll usually say brown.

Well, I can't honestly say I support you head shaving idea. It's like smashing a stained glass window. I thoroughly support your wish to raise money for cancer research though, so I guess it is for a good cause. Maybe you could raise money not to shave your head instead as an alternative perhaps.

And I've never met you in person, but I would never have said your eyes were brown.

Well, I can't honestly say I support you head shaving idea. It's like smashing a stained glass window. I thoroughly support your wish to raise money for cancer research though, so I guess it is for a good cause. Maybe you could raise money not to shave your head instead as an alternative perhaps.

And I've never met you in person, but I would never have said your eyes were brown.


Ooh! The NOT hair shaving's a brilliant idea!! ... Considering I've been putting off the head shaving for a while now because I LOVE my hair ... wow. That could work! This is excellent! A head shaving rarely gets newspaper coverage (which is kind of sad here ... once, the front page story was a firefighter rescuing a cat from a tree. Another time, it was some activity at the senior's centre. The only featured head shaving I've seen was a little girl who'd never had her hair cut and had decided she wanted to donate her hair for wigs. I was going to do that, but you can't have dyed your hair, and my hair changes shades all the time.) ... but a head not-shaving could get attention.

I figure it's cuz they're dark and I have large-ish pupils. The general impression is brown.

Ooh! The NOT hair shaving's a brilliant idea!! ... Considering I've been putting off the head shaving for a while now because I LOVE my hair ... wow. That could work! This is excellent! A head shaving rarely gets newspaper coverage (which is kind of sad here ... once, the front page story was a firefighter rescuing a cat from a tree. Another time, it was some activity at the senior's centre. The only featured head shaving I've seen was a little girl who'd never had her hair cut and had decided she wanted to donate her hair for wigs. I was going to do that, but you can't have dyed your hair, and my hair changes shades all the time.) ... but a head not-shaving could get attention.

I would support that. And let's face it, hair like yours is a responsibility. It's not just you that loves it, it brings much pleasure to many other people throughout the day. I know that when I bothered my lazy ass to look at your pictures, you hair certainly made me happy. So, obviously, not shaving it off is the way to go.

I figure it's cuz they're dark and I have large-ish pupils. The general impression is brown.

I don't really see how that could happen, they sure looked green to me.

I'm not sure what hair has to do with eating disorders. Did I miss something?

Anerexia has 2 main causes:
1. mental disorder. you stomache says "feed me" but your brain says "I...I can't. Can't get self to make self eat."
2. conformity. girl wants to be skinny. girl starves self to death. girl used as example because girl is more likely to do it than boy.

This is based off of years of gradual research interupted by periods of sleeping, eating, talking to morons on forums while pointing and laughing at them, and everything else. I find myself in a pickle. I am underweight considering my age, gender, and height. I also eat like a pig, but I am not bulemic. Anorexia is out of the picture.

I'm not sure what hair has to do with eating disorders. Did I miss something?

Anerexia has 2 main causes:
1. mental disorder. you stomache says "feed me" but your brain says "I...I can't. Can't get self to make self eat."
2. conformity. girl wants to be skinny. girl starves self to death. girl used as example because girl is more likely to do it than boy.

This is based off of years of gradual research interupted by periods of sleeping, eating, talking to morons on forums while pointing and laughing at them, and everything else. I find myself in a pickle. I am underweight considering my age, gender, and height. I also eat like a pig, but I am not bulemic. Anorexia is out of the picture.

We got off track >.<

For the most part, I think the height-weight chart thing is a general guide and as long as you're healthy, you don't much need to worry about your weight.

We got off track >.<

For the most part, I think the height-weight chart thing is a general guide and as long as you're healthy, you don't much need to worry about your weight.

Yes, I agree. I am a 5'10" female who only weighs 125 lbs at the moment. I have been accused by a lot of people of having an eating disorder. Truthfully, I eat more food in one day then most people eat in two. I have been checked out by a doctor inside and out because I wasn't always so thin.

I'm almost 25 yrs old now, but when I was just about to turn 19, I went from weighing 170 lbs. down to 130 lbs. in *4* weeks. Of course this wasn't healthy, but after many different tests, including multiple MRIs, and blood tests up to the wazoo, the doctors have never found anything wrong with me to cause such a substantial amount of weight loss.

My biggest problem is that I'm a Reactive Hypoglycemic, which I've been diagnosed as since I was 12. The doctors said that this couldn't have had anything to do with it.

I still don't have an explanation for this to this day. Nevertheless, it really hurts when someone accuses me of having an ED. This is something that I've always found to be throughly disgusting. Anorexia or Bulimia are serious life threatening problems. I've lost a friend before to Anorexia/Bulimia before, (and shame on me for not noticing, she hid it well.) It can and will kill.

I'm still underweight. I eat like a pig for years and gain little. I do a few sit-ups and I can see a 6-pack forming. Hmmmmm.

People who conform, and want to be one of the group and be popular, honestly, I wouldn't shed a tear if they died.

Anorexia is a very good thing. It weeds out the weak and stupid (obviously, smart people know that Eating is more important the Conforming with Social Standards). A previous poster said, that yes, Anorexia is not genetic. It's because they were idiots. Simple as that. Natural Selection at work.

I'm not sure what hair has to do with eating disorders. Did I miss something?

Anerexia has 2 main causes:
1. mental disorder. you stomache says "feed me" but your brain says "I...I can't. Can't get self to make self eat."
2. conformity. girl wants to be skinny. girl starves self to death. girl used as example because girl is more likely to do it than boy.

This is based off of years of gradual research interupted by periods of sleeping, eating, talking to morons on forums while pointing and laughing at them, and everything else. I find myself in a pickle. I am underweight considering my age, gender, and height. I also eat like a pig, but I am not bulemic. Anorexia is out of the picture.

Oh, I forgot. People with number 1 need help.

People with number 2 deserve no help, and we're better off without them.

Sorry for the Misunderstanding.

AA previous poster said, that yes, Anorexia is not genetic. It's because they were idiots. Simple as that. Natural Selection at work.
If anorexia isn't genetic, how can it be natural selection? Natural selection is about inherited traits(genes), and how competition over resources causes the individuals with fitter genes to have a better chance of survival, isn't it?

Hey, let's make fun of the mentally retarded next to show how superior we are... push little kids down and steal their bicycles... maybe for an encore we can trip a blind guy! :rolleyes:

Sorry if your sarcasm meters just went off the scale...

I already did all those things today.
EDIT: Natural selection is not just genetics. It's weeding out the stupid, the unfit, the weak.

If anorexia isn't genetic, how can it be natural selection? Natural selection is about inherited traits(genes), and how competition over resources causes the individuals with fitter genes to have a better chance of survival, isn't it?

In today's society, Genes do nothing. Almost nothing. It's all nurture.

These people will be obviously people you don't want raising children, because they'd be too much of an idiot to do so. Thus, by eliminating these people...yeah.

Hey, let's make fun of the mentally retarded next to show how superior we are... push little kids down and steal their bicycles... maybe for an encore we can trip a blind guy!

Sorry if your sarcasm meters just went off the scale...

I agree with the second one, but not the first and the third. Kids suck.

EDIT: Natural selection is not just genetics. It's weeding out the stupid, the unfit, the weak.
I don't remember Darwin saying that.

Nevertheless, it really hurts when someone accuses me of having an ED.

It really pisses me off when people do that. It should be just as socially unacceptable to call thin people anorexic as it is to call overweight people lazy overeaters. My mom does that, asking if all my thin friends eat enough, and if she sees someone really skinny, she'll go "ewwwww," and no matter how many times I tell her, she doesn't see that it's just as hurtful as people calling me fat.

I don't remember Darwin saying that.

Well, Darwinism has "evolved" (get it. *laughs self to death at lame joke*), over the years, as Scientists were able to gather even MORE information.

1. Damn. That's some serious stuff. Ever thought of sueing your doctor?

2. Well, same thing. Honestly, I see no need to treat it. It's basically the same thing. Extreme Stupidity. It's not something you can just cure. It takes time, maturity, and etc. And if they get injured during the learning process, oh well, we can always get another.

It disappoints me that people like you exist.

The only argument for Anorexia is that you want to remove yourself from the genepool because excessive starvation and the resulting electrolyte imbalances and malnutrition will result in massive and permanent organ damage. Horray!


The more you starve yourself, the more fat you store when you eat, and the bigger you get with less food. Everyone loses!

Well, Darwinism has "evolved" (get it. *laughs self to death at lame joke*), over the years, as Scientists were able to gather even MORE information.
Show me a reputable scientist supporting so-called 'social Darwinism' with some sort of actual proof. All of the 'social Darwinist'-supporting literature I have read so far is totalitarian crackpottery without a shred of evidence.

Show me a reputable scientist supporting so-called 'social Darwinism' with some sort of actual proof. All of the 'social Darwinist'-supporting literature I have read is totalitarian crackpottery without a shred of evidence.

I think my friend here is a little over-zealous and should tone down the social darwinism thing. As much as I hate people hurting themselves, if I can't get them to change I will be glad to know that in a way, Darwinism will remove their beliefs and ideals.

It's a mental illness that needs treatement. Do you refuse sympathy to cancer or heart disease patients who smoked, ate fatty foods, didn't excercise enough, took too many long distance flights, lived near granite?

Thank you! Honestly, just because YOU haven't experienced anorexia or bulimia doesn't mean it isn't a disease...besides, cancer is a PHYSICAL ailment...anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa are MENTAL ailments (as EH points out)...just because it isn't a physical disease doesn't make it any less serious

Thank you! Honestly, just because YOU haven't experienced anorexia or bulimia doesn't mean it isn't a disease...besides, cancer is a PHYSICAL ailment...anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa are MENTAL ailments (as EH points out)...just because it isn't a physical disease doesn't make it any less serious

Yes. Anorexia and Bulimia are mental ailments, just like EXTREME stupidity, is a mental ailment.

It disappoints me that people like you exist.

It disappoints me that you've judged someone based on one belief of theirs.

In today's society, Genes do nothing. Almost nothing. It's all nurture.

These people will be obviously people you don't want raising children, because they'd be too much of an idiot to do so. Thus, by eliminating these people...yeah.

They aren't all idiots! It doesn't stem from one place either...it isn't just someone saying, hey, I want to conform to be popular, I think I'll stop eating or throw up...it's a deep seeded mental issue that comes from many places...one of them being perfectionism or an extreme need for control, usually fostered by an extremely controlling environment that one grows up in (ie-a controlling parent)

Would you call a schizophrenic an idiot? How about a clinically depressed person? If you wouldn't, then you have no right to call an anorexic or bulimic person an idiot.

Yes. Anorexia and Bulimia are mental ailments, just like EXTREME stupidity, is a mental ailment.

What? As in retardation? I'm not sure I know of too many people with a mental retardation that are anorexics or bulimics. Thier mental capacity wouldn't allow for much room to develop these mental disorders.

They aren't all idiots! It doesn't stem from one place either...it isn't just someone saying, hey, I want to conform to be popular, I think I'll stop eating or throw up...it's a deep seeded mental issue that comes from many places...one of them being perfectionism or an extreme need for control, usually fostered by an extremely controlling environment that one grows up in (ie-a controlling parent)

Would you call a schizophrenic an idiot? How about a clinically depressed person? If you wouldn't, then you have no right to call an anorexic or bulimic person an idiot.

Anyone who conforms to try to be "popular" simply needs to be gone.

Simple as that. And what better is Anorexia for? Being a Dumbass=/=Mental Retardation.

Some people are born with Mental Retardation.

You're not born with dumbassery.

It's not a chemical or physical thing. It's not a genetic problem.

You're just a dumbass. Our society prides itself on Personal Responbility.

Example, Serial Killers.

People still throw Serial Killers in Jail or kill them. We don't view Murdering Tons of people as a "Mental Illness", because it's not a disease. They're just dumbasses. It's not caused by a chemical, physical, or genetic cause. Schizo, and Mental Retardation are.

If you're anorexiac, it's your own damn fault, and if you starve, we shouldn't care. In fact, we should encourage it.

Anyone who conforms to try to be "popular" simply needs to be gone.

Simple as that. And what better is Anorexia for? Being a Dumbass=/=Mental Retardation.

Some people are born with Mental Retardation.

You're not born with dumbassery.

It's not a chemical or physical thing. It's not a genetic problem.

You're just a dumbass. Our society prides itself on Personal Responbility.

Example, Serial Killers.

People still throw Serial Killers in Jail or kill them. We don't view Murdering Tons of people as a "Mental Illness", because it's not a disease. They're just dumbasses. It's not caused by a chemical, physical, or genetic cause. Schizo, and Mental Retardation are.

If you're anorexiac, it's your own damn fault, and if you starve, we shouldn't care. In fact, we should encourage it.

serial killers actually tend to be of above average intelligence. so do schizophrenics and transsexuals. also, many serial killers have some sort of mental condition - schizophrenia, manic depression, assburghers, whatever.

i could see a possible link between anorexia and schizophrenia. one of the results of anorexia is a distorted perception of body size - people look at themselves in the mirror and they see themselves as larger than they actually are. they perceive themselves as needing to lose weight when they are barely eating enough to survive; this is surely a distorted perception of reality and may possibly be the result of a weak form of schizophrenia, as gender dysphoria certainly is.

they simply do not see themselves as they really are. it is hard to understand, but please try. i do not know if studies have been done on a possible link between schizophrenia and anorexia/bulemia.

You know, I started this thread as a joke and to introduce people to the whimsical serial killer style humor of Jim Norton, and now it's all about mental health and crap. Why can't people stick to the subject.

You know, I started this thread as a joke and to introduce people to the whimsical serial killer style humor of Jim Norton, and now it's all about mental health and crap. Why can't people stick to the subject.Because some people are affected by the problem of annorexia (which isn't the same as bulemia, which Norton mentioned). We take the issue a bit more seriously ;)

You know, I started this thread as a joke and to introduce people to the whimsical serial killer style humor of Jim Norton, and now it's all about mental health and crap. Why can't people stick to the subject.

annorexia is a serious thing, so some people will have the impulse to talk seiously...

annorexia is a serious thing, so some people will have the impulse to talk seiously...
Decapitating hookers is a serious thing too, but that doesn't stop Jim Norton form making jokes about it. That's why I idolize the guy.

Decapitating hookers is a serious thing too, but that doesn't stop Jim Norton form making jokes about it. That's why I idolize the guy.But I take it it wouldn't keep the Generalites from discussing the topic seriously either, if it was brought up...

I just heard the best argument ever in favor of Anorexia. I'm listening to Jim Norton, the angry, dirty commedian. He stated that anorexia kills about 1000 people per year. Obesity kills some 300,000. So if you eat a piece of cake it's three hundred times safer to puke it up.

Jim Norton (http://www.blogger.com/profile/3427846)


I'm not reading this whole thread, but you and Jim Norton should both spend some time with anorexics in recovery and laugh it up.

I'm sure someone has already pointed out that anorexia is a disease, not just a matter of diet. A horrible, horrible mental illness.

Also, others have probably pointed out that eating and puking (binge and purge) is bulimia, not anorexia.

Do you have any cancer jokes?

How about some emphysema gigglers?

I know, I know. Mental illness is always funnier.

It really pisses me off when people do that. It should be just as socially unacceptable to call thin people anorexic as it is to call overweight people lazy overeaters. My mom does that, asking if all my thin friends eat enough, and if she sees someone really skinny, she'll go "ewwwww," and no matter how many times I tell her, she doesn't see that it's just as hurtful as people calling me fat.

I now what you are saying. My Mum's boyfriend a few days before my 21 b-day, accused me of using laxatives to stay thin. I got pissed at this for the simple fact that I think in the past 10 years I've had to used a laxative twice.

Well, here comes the day of my 21st b-day party. Supposed to be a cool moment, yes? I can drink legally now (though I was ordered by the doc at the time to stay away from alcohol due to a previous sugar shock induced by alcohol). Well I got there, and loaded my plate up with food. We only had the banquet room for so long so my Mum told me to hurry up and finish eating. As I was walking up to the main table to open my presents, my Mum's boyfriend (who happens to be huge! 46 in. waist) starts making fun (pig sounds to be exact) of me because I shoved the huge last piece of sandwich into my mouth. So still being pissed off from what he said to me a few days ago I said "At least I need it."

Woah!!!!!!!! God damn. I have never seen my Mum so pissed in my entire life. My party was ruined; It sucked monkey balls after that hardcore till the party ended 'cause my Mum was being so bitchy, calling me ungrateful, etc.

My Mum knew what he had said to me the other day, and didn't get nearly as pissed off with his comment as she did with my comment to him.

I, just like you, say, "What's the difference?"
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EDIT: All of the comments about me having some sort of ED have only come from my Mum's BF (one can tell I don't care for him much, this is just one of the many reasons why). Everyone else in my family and friends knows that it's compleat BS. (My best friend always says that if she ate like me she'd be the size of a horse.)