NationStates Jolt Archive

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/26/D8C7SNHO1.html

Do you think this a good thing? Bad?

Why?

Yes, because it makes it easier to keep track of who voted, filter out "sham" voters, and be sure everyone is in the right polling station. There are a number of identification methods you can use, and I seriously doubt your voter eligibility if you can't provide any of them.

However, I disagree with discontinuing the old methods of identification. There should be as many options as possible to keep it easy and fair.

Yes, but I think that any legitmate photo ID should be acceptable. Anyone could take a persons phone bill to the polls and use it.

Yes, because it makes it easier to keep track of who voted, filter out "sham" voters, and be sure everyone is in the right polling station. There are a number of identification methods you can use, and I seriously doubt your voter eligibility if you can't provide any of them.

However, I disagree with discontinuing the old methods of identification. There should be as many options as possible to keep it easy and fair.
There should only be two forms of ID acceptable. The Georgia Driver's License or the Georgia ID card. Everyone who drives in Georgia is required to have the license, everyone who doesn't is eligible for the ID card. You get them in the same place -- DMV.

Anything else is just an invitation for fraud.

I really don't know what the opponents are trying to accomplish when they say things like:

"The decision to clear the measure now gives Georgia the most draconian voter identification requirement in the nation," said Daniel Levitas of the American Civil Liberties Union's Voting Rights Project in Atlanta.

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a veteran of the civil rights movement, said, "It is unbelievable, it is unreal the Department of Justice _ an agency who is supposed to protect the American public by enforcing the Voting Rights Act of 1965 _ is now involved in attempts to weaken the act.

"This decision takes us back to the dark past of literacy tests and other insidious devices that were carefully devised to hamper the participation of all of our citizens in the political process," Lewis said.

How is a photo ID akin to a literacy test? The only problem that I see is that someone has to have the initiative to go down to the DMV office and have a picture taken? Maybe the Dems just aren't big on initiative?

There should only be two forms of ID acceptable. The Georgia Driver's License or the Georgia ID card. Everyone who drives in Georgia is required to have the license, everyone who doesn't is eligible for the ID card. You get them in the same place -- DMV.

Anything else is just an invitation for fraud.
And it's not like they are expensive, I think I spent 10 dollars on a license when I lived there.

And it's not like they are expensive, I think I spent 10 dollars on a license when I lived there.
Shucks, this is fading into obscurity and I was hoping to find someone who would defend the ACLU position against this "draconian" voting law that is akin to literacy tests.

Guess not tonight. I've got an early date with a hatch on the 'hootch.

Bet no one knows what that means.

What about birth-cirtificates and passports?

What about birth-cirtificates and passports?
Birth Certificates aren't photo IDs. Plus, they are one of the documents that are required to get a DL/ID in Georgia.

I suppose I could expand my list to include passports. Electric bills and school IDs just don't cut it.

But these are minor points. Why do a lot of Democrats oppose voter identification so strongly? Do they depend on voter fraud to get elected? Or do they just doubt the initiative of their voters to get an approved and available form of identification?

Hopefully Georgia doesn't require the insane ammount of documentation that New Jersey requires for a DMV ID or driver's license.

How is a photo ID akin to a literacy test? The only problem that I see is that someone has to have the initiative to go down to the DMV office and have a picture taken? Maybe the Dems just aren't big on initiative?
Because SOMEBODY was going to play the "OMG! RETURN 2 RACIZM!" card. It doesnt matter what you do, somebody is going to say it :P

Voting here is compulsory and we have to show ID. No big deal.

Hong Kong citizens have ID cards with photos and dates of birth printed on it which people are required to show at polling stations. OMG! IT'S TOTALITARIANISM COME TRUE! 1984 SCENARIO!!

Either way, Hong Kong citizens generally feel proud about possessing an ID card. It gives us a legitimate identity.

It seems like a good idea. And I certainly hope that Rev. Jackson's fears come true and this idea does spread like wildfire throughout the country. I want it to be as close to impossible as possible for someone else to vote in my place.
I think that law is a very smart move on Georgia's part and I can't believe there are so many people who actually want anyone to be able to vote in their name.

So you're saying that you don't need any ID to vote in other states?

It seems like a good idea. And I certainly hope that Rev. Jackson's fears come true and this idea does spread like wildfire throughout the country. I want it to be as close to impossible as possible for someone else to vote in my place.
I think that law is a very smart move on Georgia's part and I can't believe there are so many people who actually want anyone to be able to vote in their name.
But then the government will know who you voted for! DONT DO IT!

Good Old FUD. Fear Uncertanty and Doubt. The Democrats spread it each time it comes up (Once a year for the past six here in MS) and successfully defeat Voter ID. Which pisses me off to no end. But then the Dems would be up the creek if it did pass. I mean, the days of voting the graveyard are pretty much over but they have to play on the Black Communities fears and remind them "Hey, vote for us! We keep you safe and secure and fed and dressed and...."


Politics is so much BS.

"The decision to clear the measure now gives Georgia the most draconian voter identification requirement in the nation," said Daniel Levitas of the American Civil Liberties Union's Voting Rights Project in Atlanta.

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a veteran of the civil rights movement, said, "It is unbelievable, it is unreal the Department of Justice _ an agency who is supposed to protect the American public by enforcing the Voting Rights Act of 1965 _ is now involved in attempts to weaken the act.

The measure would eliminate the use of several currently accepted forms of voter identification, such Social Security cards, birth certificates or utility bills, at the polls.

Shenanigans, shenanigans! They are trying to make you prove you are you with pictures. Ludicrous!

The new Georgia law also allows people to vote absentee without an excuse, and for a longer period. Those votes by mail would not require a picture ID. Political observers say Republicans tend to benefit the most from absentee balloting.
Oh good! As long as you don't have to identify yourself on a mail in ballot, it is totally fair!

So you're saying that you don't need any ID to vote in other states?
I can't tell you about all states. Until recently, one just had to walk in to the poll, tell the worker what your name was and that was enough to vote. That is what most Democrats seem to prefer, for some obscure reason.

Shenanigans, shenanigans! They are trying to make you prove you are you with pictures. Ludicrous!


Oh good! As long as you don't have to identify yourself on a mail in ballot, it is totally fair!
It wouldn't be unreasonable to require a notary's seal on an absentee ballot. I guess the theory is that most absentee ballots don't get counted anyway.