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ive got my theories you got yours. i dont want debating i just want to know your opinions.

Roughly 4.5 billion years.

I follow the scientific mindset of around 4.5-4.6 billion.

ohh if you got any questions when the server is back then telegram my nation (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NO DEBATING ON THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The world is four billion, five hundred twenty-two million, six hundred forty-three thousand, ninety-six years, four months, seventeen days, six hours, five minutes, and eighteen seconds old. I know because I created it. ;)

yea sure lol

yea sure lolYou dare to doubt the Supreme Ruler of the Multiverse? I mean, come on! :rolleyes:

Why is there an option for 4.5B and another one for 4.6B?
And why "this Earth"? Are there others?

Like...older than the dirt on the ground...;)

Why is there an option for 4.5B and another one for 4.6B?
And why "this Earth"? Are there others?

I think there are other Earthlike planets, so it made sense to me. :p

And I don't know why there are two categories 100,000,000 years apart. :confused:

Why is there an option for 4.5B and another one for 4.6B?
And why "this Earth"? Are there others?
Of course. Haven't you ever heard of the 918th Dimension? Oh... you must be a mortal. That would explain it.

Of course. Haven't you ever heard of the 918th Dimension? Oh... you must be a mortal. That would explain it.
Have you been to the dimension with Imperial Canada?

I think there are other Earthlike planets, so it made sense to me. :p

And I don't know why there are two categories 100,000,000 years apart. :confused:
I don't see why there isn't one for what's obviously the correct answer, 4,522,643,096 years, or about 0.84 eons.

the reason for choices s: ive gotten so many dang different theories dates; ive even gotten a theory that at the kennedy space center the univese is 25 billion and in my now 6 year old text boox it says 20 billion years. whats going on? we are aging at 1200 years/second. we are old folks. answer me that real quick. other wise no debates plz.

Of course. Haven't you ever heard of the 918th Dimension? Oh... you must be a mortal. That would explain it.
Are they called Earth too? The brochure says they have different names.

Have you been to the dimension with Imperial Canada?
Uh, Colodia? Now you're not making any sense. Not that you ever do make any sense, but you're making even less than usual.

Of course. Haven't you ever heard of the 918th Dimension? Oh... you must be a mortal. That would explain it.

How do you know...I could be from another dimension where your dimensions are grains of sand on the beach of one planet in one universe of one multiverse in one of our dimensions?

Are they called Earth too? The brochure says they have different names.
Not all of them. But they all mean the same thing.

How do you know...I could be from another dimension where your dimensions are grains of sand on the beach of one planet in one universe of one multiverse in one of our dimensions?
Because I am omniscient of course. And besides, I created all of those dimensions in the first place, sixteen eons ago. How much history does your species have from before that time, may I ask? :D

Uh, Colodia? Now you're not making any sense. Not that you ever do make any sense, but you're making even less than usual.
...So I take it the Canadian DIDN'T tell you to bend over and let him dominat-....never mind.

...So I take it the Canadian DIDN'T tell you to bend over and let him dominat-....never mind.
I don't know where you get these crazy ideas. You're worse than NK.

I don't know where you get these crazy ideas. You're worse than NK.
Also, your name bugs my OCD.

It's supposed to be "The Czardian Envoy"!!!!!

the reason for choices s: ive gotten so many dang different theories dates; ive even gotten a theory that at the kennedy space center the univese is 25 billion and in my now 6 year old text boox it says 20 billion years. whats going on? we are aging at 1200 years/second. we are old folks. answer me that real quick. other wise no debates plz.
There are a few things going on. First, you're assuming that the Earth and the Universe are the same thing, which they are not. The Universe is older than Earth by quite a bit.

There are a few problems in trying to determine the age of the Universe. I don't know what it says in the Kennedy Space Center, but if it's a quote or one of those things they write as dedication on buildings, it's probably outdated.

Astrophysicists try to determine the age of the Universe by several means, but it's hard to come with a definite answer and that's why it has "moved" over the years, as our understanding of the Universe and our tools to measure it improve. The most accepted range nowadays is between 13 and 15B years, but I remember the 20B from a few years ago and is possible that they haven't changed it from text books yet. No biggy, since it's supposed to be an approximation and not a set in stone thing.

awe comon your debating!! the 918 or whatever im sure does not exist!!!

Also, your name bugs my OCD.

It's supposed to be "The Czardian Envoy"!!!!!
Er...don't you mean "The Czardaian Envoy"? ;)

Because I am omniscient of course. And besides, I created all of those dimensions in the first place, sixteen eons ago. How much history does your species have from before that time, may I ask? :D

Hah, eons. Our days are measured in your insignificant eons...and we have had an eternity of days to study your games with the meaningless subjects of your miniscule dimensions. And we find your "omniscience" to be...most amunsing. Pity you won't be able to appreciate the work you've done for much longer...

Not all of them. But they all mean the same thing.
Dirt? Isn't there somewhere it's called "water"?

awe comon your debating!! the 918 or whatever im sure does not exist!!!
I'm thinking of complaining "Lord, what fools these mortals be" (Shakespeare, A Midsummer Night's Dream, who cares which act or line), but I'd be the Lord mentioned, so forget it.

Hah, eons. Our days are measured in your insignificant eons...and we have had an eternity of days to study your games with the meaningless subjects of your miniscule dimensions. And we find your "omniscience" to be...most amunsing. Pity you won't be able to appreciate the work you've done for much longer...
((Wow, you give some of those tiny little creatures mind-altering drugs and they start to think they rule the world... If only they knew!))

Well, thanks a lot for your comments. I'm just curious to know, how many of my eons are in one of your days?

wow someone finaly answers me!! now ive been asking this on the other thread 'intelligent design' and have got no proofs yet!!! give me a proof for evolution. i need it in a short story not the whole thing at once. this is your only debating btw. now for about say a couple hours ive gotten responses but noone has actually given me proof, they ask me bunches of questions but no evidence. proof people. or unless its cuase your like the one guy who belives in evolution for 'sexual' reedoms.

((Wow, you give some of those tiny little creatures mind-altering drugs and they start to think they rule the world... If only they knew!))

Ahh, the most advanced of the creatures are beginning...oh, what the hell. I'm just a programmer at Dimensional Tech Support, and I make 57,000 credits per year and get 7 days off. Only 7!

Well, thanks a lot for your comments. I'm just curious to know, how many of my eons are in one of your days?

Oh, none. Our days are actually equal to 2.7828183 Earth millenia, nowhere near eons...dammit, another universe got a virus...it seems the Humanity worm is spreading through every system in the 343rd dimension today, I swear...

I think the world is onle 11 years old. Prove me wrong.

I think the world is onle 11 years old. Prove me wrong.

I remember the past 11 years, and have calendars from each of them.

wow someone finaly answers me!! now ive been asking this on the other thread 'intelligent design' and have got no proofs yet!!! give me a proof for evolution. i need it in a short story not the whole thing at once. this is your only debating btw. now for about say a couple hours ive gotten responses but noone has actually given me proof, they ask me bunches of questions but no evidence. proof people. or unless its cuase your like the one guy who belives in evolution for 'sexual' reedoms.
Well, there's the fossil record, genetic divergence amongst modern species, and those pesky antibiotic resisting bacteria popping up all the time. All these point very strongly towards an adaptation / change mechanism in living beings and to the creation of more complex life from simpler organisms.

I think the world is onle 11 years old. Prove me wrong.
He's actually right, from my macrouniverse the earth is only eleven of our years. It's funny, to me you know, your perception of time. It's naive for you to think that you are on the highest plane. It is not uncommon for the beings of my planet to communicate with those from both Higher AND lower planes. Vetalia actually comes from the level two above mine and Czardaian Envoy is the only one seperating my existance from your's. Your universe though is a mystery to mine, we have thusfar been unable to discover the correct variables to input into our algorhythms so that we can bypass the time shifts caused by your unusually weak black holes and low speed of light. My cousin is actually a top scientist in the matter and has been able to determine that your world is actually just over 4.5 billion of your years and your universe's age is about equal to one lifetime here. Good luck with your 'wormhole' research. (P.S. It's a dead end.)

my last words. im 13 so how is this world 11? bye yall.

I remember the past 11 years, and have calendars from each of them.


How do we know the world wasn't created like this 10 minutes ago by some divine creator, and all our memories were implanted in our heads by them?

wow someone finaly answers me!! now ive been asking this on the other thread 'intelligent design' and have got no proofs yet!!! give me a proof for evolution. i need it in a short story not the whole thing at once. this is your only debating btw. now for about say a couple hours ive gotten responses but noone has actually given me proof, they ask me bunches of questions but no evidence. proof people. or unless its cuase your like the one guy who belives in evolution for 'sexual' reedoms.
Because that debate has been done 14000 times already, and everyone is sick of it. Trust me, all your questions have been answered in previous threads.

As for age of the earth, short answer- carbon dating.

my last words. im 13 so how is this world 11? bye yall.

Ah, but how many of those years do you remember? I bet not all 13.

Yesterday, the Spagetti Armed Monster placed false memories into our head to confuse us...

I am going to say... who cares? As long as it doesn't end within my lifetime, im fine,

If Genesis is literal: 6000-8000

If Genesis is metaphorical: Several billion, if radiocarbon dating is accurate (ok, so it's not, but it can give a general estimate).

Several billion, if radiocarbon dating is accurate (ok, so it's not, but it can give a general estimate).

No, it can't. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating)

According to many limiting factors (i.e. the distance of moon from earth, the decreasing magnetic field, the relatively small amount of dust on the moon and sediment on the ocean floor, and various other factors), I believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old, (most likely around 6,000-7,000 years old).

The many factors which are included in my belief of a young earth have been scientifically confirmed, and pose serious problems for the timescale (and thus, the entirety of the theory) of evolution. I believe this without regret, and challenge any to prove this to be an incorrect assertion.

20 Billion...but for 15 Billion of that it was a marble like game piece used by unfathomable ancient gods in an unfathomable ancient game. For the last 5 billion or so its been sitting in a drain pie, after it fell off the game board and rolled down into the cosmic gutter.

Well, the good news is that (at the moment) more than 84% of the people who answered the poll have it right. Meaning they picked either 4.5 billion or 4.6 billion - the age of the earth is commonly accepted to be somewhere between these two ages, so both answers are more-or-less right.

It's good to know that the educational system hasn't completely broken down.

:p

According to many limiting factors (i.e. the distance of moon from earth, the decreasing magnetic field, the relatively small amount of dust on the moon and sediment on the ocean floor, and various other factors), I believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old, (most likely around 6,000-7,000 years old).

The many factors which are included in my belief of a young earth have been scientifically confirmed, and pose serious problems for the timescale (and thus, the entirety of the theory) of evolution. I believe this without regret, and challenge any to prove this to be an incorrect assertion.

Carbon dating is accurate up to about 50,000 years, so carbon dating evidence proves that the Earth is at least that old. Uranium can be usec to date rocks at 3 billion years plus or minus two million. These are only two of the huge number of pieces of evidence against a young Earth. How about continental drift, is that a myth too?

As for the magnetic field, this is known to reverse periodically., and you seem to assume that the last reversal is when Earth was created. I've never heard of the sedimentation or dust evidence you mention.

No, it can't. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating)
Carbon dating is just a general term for all radioactive dating. Carbon is only used on living things. When taking the age of rocks, there are other radioactive materials which are used, which have much longer half lives. For example, Rubidium has a half life of 4,900,000,000 years, meaning it could comfortabely date anything 4.5 billion years old.

Current measurements of red-shift and the Hubble Constant suggest the universe is 13-14bn years old with a 95% level of confidence. Read up on Monte Carlo simulation if you think that means there's a 5% probability of it being 6000 years old. :rolleyes:

As for the Earth, 4.5-4.6bn years old, hard to be precise on those timescales.

The most accurate dating has pegged the Earth at approximately 4.56 billion years old.

Carbon dating is just a general term for all radioactive dating.

Not where I come from. Carbon dating means "using carbon to date things". There are other ways to determine ages of things, but they have different names.

the earth is over 10 years old.

Too old for me to care about how old it is.

the earth is over 10 years old.
I can confirm it's over 30 years old. My grampa tells me it's older, but that'd just be hearsay.

im just wondering? how old is this earth?

That would depend, was it born on a leap year?

All over the world sediments are forming and creating layers. There are many places where you can dig and see last year's layer, the layer from the year before that and so on. In some places you can dig down and clearly see tens of thousands of layers, which suggests the layering process has been going on for tens of thousands of years. Now if one place we can see a layer forming every year, and there are twenty thousand layers, this is good evidence that the world is at least 20,000 years old. If the world is only 6,000 years old, where did the 14,000 extra layers come from?