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Where do you think Osama bin Laden is?

With all this distraction with the war in Iraq, and escalating conflict with Iran and blahblahblah...

How is Osama avoiding the most accomplished military in the world?

your osama :p

He has shaved and is working as a farm hand in Montana? Tell us.

Dead, but so completey destroyed there is no body.


Where do you think Osama bin Laden is?

With all this distraction with the war in Iraq, and escalating conflict with Iran and blahblahblah...

How is Osama avoiding the most accomplished military in the world?

When you find him, let the US airforce know. I think they got something for him.

I think he is dead; there's no reason why they couldn't close in on him so easily. However, that doesn't dismantle Al-Qaeda, which explains their ability to carry out attacks. However, that is only a guess; if he is alive he is definitely in hiding, maybe even in Saudia Arabia.

He has shaved and is working as a farm hand in Montana? Tell us.

wow, how did you know?

just shows you how worthless the CIA/FBI is

He's in talks to replace Regis Philbin.

Where do you think Osama bin Laden is?

With all this distraction with the war in Iraq, and escalating conflict with Iran and blahblahblah...

How is Osama avoiding the most accomplished military in the world?

Probably hiding out Sudan or Africa. The country is full of brain-washed starving people, something Bin laden can probably use to his advantage. He'll tell them allah will magically drop sheep from heaven if they bring down the infidel empire....

:rolleyes:

i would go with A but i think hes hiding in a cave with a lot of islamics helping him:
1. bomb and be terrists
2. giving away cash to terists to get his goal in life

Osama bin Laden? Er...I wouldn't know anything about that... *looks around frantically for CIA agents*

San Fransisco, with all the rest of the America Haters.

Banglidash (probably spelled it wrong) what is there 100,000,000 people in like an area the size of State of Georgia....would be a really easy place to hide....

Plus radicalism has really surged in that area as of late, those hundreds of bombs just being one sign a few days ago..or a week.

"by our french enemies"

The French are not your enemy.

He has shaved and is working as a farm hand in Montana? Tell us.
Your name looks a little like Osuma....

Osama is currently under that rock right over there, and If you wern't spending so muchj time hating Bush and America, you would find him.

Dude, 'Sama and me been rockin the HOUSE. That guy can get down~ I keep him in a cave during the day, and at night he comes out and parties!

Well I can tell you where he isn't. I tidied the flat yesterday and he definitely wasn't in the kitty litter box.

"by our french enemies"

The French are not your enemy.


I know that. I still call 'em French Fries. but those who choose that option probably see the French as our enemy.

How much is his bounty up to?

He's in Fiji sipping Pina Colada's! Well why not? Since no one is even looking for him anymore and are too busy with Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. ;)

He's in Pakistan, and has been since before we invaded Afghanistan.

How is Osama avoiding the most accomplished military in the world?
The Iraqi army is the most efficient in the world.

Anyway, I think he´s perfectly safe somewhere laughing his ass of due to the fact that he speaks better english than the president of the US :p

Nah, sorry if I offended you, but it´s my right as a swede. I think he´s alive though.

Osama's at your mom's house.

I think he's on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. The area is hilly, large, out of state control - so it's really hard to find someone. Plus the border only really exists on paper, so if someone comes close to finding you, you can just hop across the border where you're now under a different national juristriction. Afghanistan hasn't any effective government outside of Kabul, and Pakistan would rather declare war on the USA than let the USA have military access. All in all I'd call that pretty much a perfect hiding place.

He's been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too quiet. I think he's either dead, or close to it on dialysis in some very out of the way place.

Given modern technology, there is no reason he's not churning out an incendiary message a month or week, esp. with Iraq. But... nothing!

Hmm.

I think Osama Bin Laden died because how can so many people not find Osama this long

When you find him, let the US airforce know. I think they got something for him.
Osama is inside Bush house.

Osama is currently under that rock right over there, and If you wern't spending so muchj time hating Bush and America, you would find him.why do I want to find Osama?

How is Osama avoiding the most accomplished military in the world?

So the british are looking for him? because you sure cant imply that America is the "most accomplished military in the world". They dont have a very good military, considering both world wars they showed up late. And they are losing considerable ammounts of soilders to poorly trained soliders. And well, Its possible to count the wars they have been in on both hands. The british on the other hand, has been an established nation for far longer, thus a more succesfully navy and air force. And they have the world record in the time it takes to win a war...45 minutes.

your osama :p
Osama yo mama!

I think Osama Bin Laden died because how can so many people not find Osama this long

Well, the world is big you know.

And they have the world record in the time it takes to win a war...45 minutes.
Yeah...you guys beat Zanzibar! Well known world menace with a population of some 200,000 (that would be my estimate, anyway) on an island about 1200sq km wide.
If anything, its an acomplishment for the people on Zanzibar whos government actually displayed some intelligence.
And this took place when? Why...1896! Now, who can tell me what war ended in 1856, and which particular brigade was led on an increadibly stupid attack down a valley lined with Russian artillery?
For bonus points, name the British commander(s, I suppose) who ordered said attack.
For extra bonus points, tell me how many charged and how many came out alive.
For super-special bonus points, tell me with a straight face that said charge was a victory.

Sorry, couldnt help it :P

He was in America but when 9/11 happened they put him on a plane with all his realtives and flew them out of the country to Saudi.......You know the only plane allowed out of the US after the Towers went down.



Yea i know he wasnt on the plane...but it wouldnt have suprised me. Hes probably hiding safely in another country somewere working on his next big "gig" for the Coalition of the Willing.

So the USA-GB-Poland are gonna get it and the other 20 tropical Isle nations with no army who supports this glorious crusade will get it later. But its ok were in Iraq now everythings under control.

Oh by the way i dont hate America i hate some of the stupid people who run it. Its kinda been an on-going thing with me the past couple of decades.

;)

I think he is wearing long flowing robes, carrying a long stick, and herding goats. But on weekends he makes videos.

And can I agree entirely with what someone said about the British army (the good stuff they said about it). Though yeah the charge of the light brigade wasn't all that brilliant.

Where do you think Osama bin Laden is?

With all this distraction with the war in Iraq, and escalating conflict with Iran and blahblahblah...

How is Osama avoiding the most accomplished military in the world?
What an obvious answer:

"In a nicely furnished mansion, protected by US secret service" :eek:

Regardless of which military you believe is superior, Osama has managed to evade ALL of them.

I don't believe he is dead for the simple reason that there would have been a big hoopla and a martyrdom ceremony or something.

Considering that Daddy Bush and a prominent member of the bin Laden family were both on the board of the Carlysle group and that the ties between the Bush and bin Laden family are well documented (http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=480), Osama is probably keeping quiet and blending into the woodwork like a good covert operative.

If he came out with messages every week, the Americans would be really pissed they are spending so much money and so many lives on Iraq when they should be trying to bring Osama to justice. His silence works well in keeping America's focus on the NeoCon agenda.

I think he's on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. The area is hilly, large, out of state control - so it's really hard to find someone. Plus the border only really exists on paper, so if someone comes close to finding you, you can just hop across the border where you're now under a different national juristriction. Afghanistan hasn't any effective government outside of Kabul, and Pakistan would rather declare war on the USA than let the USA have military access. All in all I'd call that pretty much a perfect hiding place.

Yeah, it's not that hard to find an over six-foot Arab with dozens of wives. :) Not finding him has to do with the reluctance to find him on the part of Packee establishment and the reluctance to push the Packees by the Bush administration.

Besides, Peter Goss, the CIA head honcho, said he has an "excellent idea" where OBL is. Maybe we should just ask him.. ;)

Yeah, it's not that hard to find an over six-foot Arab with dozens of wives. :) Not finding him has to do with the reluctance to find him on the part of Packee establishment and the reluctance to push the Packees by the Bush administration.

Besides, Peter Goss, the CIA head honcho, said he has an "excellent idea" where OBL is. Maybe we should just ask him.. ;)

You sure about that? His wives are probably in Saudi Arabia right now. But more importantly how much do you know about waziristan (an area within Pakistan). They intensely distrust any Pakistanis, they speak a separate lanaguage, it's a mountainous area (difficult for mobility). There was heavy fighting between the Pakistan army and the tribes in the area in 2004 after the army was sent in to try and find Bin Laden in 2002. Finding a specific person in that area requires a lot of skill. It's by means a simple task.

I believe that Osama is smack in the middle of Mecca, hiding in the Grand Mosque.

Where is Osama??
There he is! behind you!

Osama, doesn't he now run that corner shop just down the end of my street? When I asked him 'Are you Osama Bin Laden?' He replied with a polite 'Yes sir' and tried to sell me some out of date Tennents super!

ObL is almost certainly in Northern Pakistan. Pity the U.S. military never decided to search there.

ObL is almost certainly in Northern Pakistan. Pity the U.S. military never decided to search there.

Uh, perhaps that might be because that would be political suicide? Pakistan would likely read it as a hostile force and it's not beyond the realms of possibility for them to send nukes on the US Army...

You sure about that? His wives are probably in Saudi Arabia right now.

Not all of them. He retained some. Plus he gained some, courtesy the Amir-ul-Momineen.


But more importantly how much do you know about waziristan (an area within Pakistan).

I am from the subcontinent. I know the area. I know the history of the region, the people, the tribes, the topography and the complexities involved.

They intensely distrust any Pakistanis, they speak a separate lanaguage, it's a mountainous area (difficult for mobility). There was heavy fighting between the Pakistan army and the tribes in the area in 2004 after the army was sent in to try and find Bin Laden in 2002. Finding a specific person in that area requires a lot of skill. It's by means a simple task.

Note that it was mostly the Frontier corps and not the regular army that took the hits in Wana. Basically the FC was made cannon fodder for the machinations of the Paki establishment.

Let me make something very clear here.

The Paki army does not lack any capabilities to move in the place and capture Osama and Mullah Omar and other assorted cronies of them. They have the man power and the equipment needed to practically steamroll the place if they want to. IIRC, their armed forces number around 600,000.

The fact is that the Paki establishment lacks the will to do it.

There are many reasons to this. Foremost is that most of the Paki intelligence itself is islamised. Hamid Gul, former chief of ISI, was an advisor of Osama. Gen. Mahmud Ahmad, another former chief of ISI, was also involved with Osama and it was under his orders that Omar Sheikh, wire transferred $100 K to Mohd Atta. After this was publicised, he was removed from post.

Even the Paki army has islamist influence. Many influential generals are openly islamist. Some were removed by Musharraf, but many are still there. Musharraf himself is a supporter of islamist terrorism. He did not hesitate in using the mujahideen for intrusion in Kargil, which led to Kargil war. I have no reason to think he had a change of heart.

Then there is the complex question of who is a terrorist?

It is impossible for the Paki establishment to call Osama a terrorist and capture him on one hand and support Kashmir terrorism and ask jihadis to fight there on the other hand.

Simply put,
Musharraf regime cannot go after Osama, because it cannot go after the taliban and because it cannot go after the Kashmir jihadis.

This has nothing to do with the capability of the Paki army to catch Osama.

And since I don't see the Paki establishment giving up on the use of jihad as a policy in Kashmir and giving up on the use of their proxies, the taliban, as a tool to subvert Afghan nationalism, I don't see them going after the other jihadis, the pan-islamist ones, because all these types, the anti-Indian Kashmiri types, the anti-shia sectarian types, the taliban and the AQ and other assorted types now share so much ideology, men, material and money and overlap so much that it is difficult to say where one ends and where the other starts.

If you touch one, you offend all. You cannot fight a selective war on one group and expect to keep the other groups fighting your war in Kashmir. This is the predicament that Musharraf has. The Pakis have successfully painted themselves into a corner. One might be tempted to have some sympathy for him, but considering the damage that has been done by the Paki policies in Kashmir and Afghanistan, I don't have any sympathy for them.

But don't worry. They will keep catching those # 3s of Al-Qaeda. And Pakistan has an endless supply of goatherds who can be sold to the US as Al-Qaeda and sent to Guantanamo bay. This is in turn sold as success on war on terror by the Bush administration. I am willing to go out on a limb and bet that Osama and Mullah Omar will never be captured as long as the Busharraf administration is there.

Why the Bush administration goes along with this sham is the million dollar question.

Did they settle for this option for lack of a better one, or was it the option that they preferred ?

I think personally Osama is hiding still in teh mountainaneous caves on the border of Afghanistan. I also think American leaders where stupid to divert htere attention to the non-existant problems in Iraq. there Was no weapons of mass destruction. that was just some foolish plea to get rid of someone who america was personally scared of, and frightened that he's a more powerful leader to his country than george bush is to america. They nearly closed him in on the caves of Afghanistan, so why did they move out to Iraq For?

So Who we gonna attack next? Saudi Arabia becasue we want there oil more freely? or because we may not liek their new king, who subsequently is not a threat so fuel prices still rocket?.

I personally think that both America adn Britain should look more towards areas of africca (like zimbabwe) and the constant centries old conflict between israel and palestine. If they sorted these lesser problems out now they would be making a better job at cutting out evil in this world and Wars, than taking on countries which they know will not be as easy to sort out. take Iraq for example. i think someone forgot about the fact that insurgens and military would still not be welcome even after Saddam. Why dont they just move out teh COuntry to the Borders (to allies such as turkey) and watch iraq go into a destined civil war adn sort there own country out. then if needing help they coudl call back the west to help. ALL THEY WANT IS THEIR COUNTRY BACK !!!!!!!!

Does it really matter where osama is? If someone did kill him, there's 1000's more to take his place. And i think the americans have just singled him out, there were more people invloved in 9/11, they need a face to fight, and he sure is ugly enough.

Dead and rotting. We haven't heard from him in a long time.

Yeah...you guys beat Zanzibar! Well known world menace with a population of some 200,000 (that would be my estimate, anyway) on an island about 1200sq km wide.
If anything, its an acomplishment for the people on Zanzibar whos government actually displayed some intelligence.
And this took place when? Why...1896! Now, who can tell me what war ended in 1856, and which particular brigade was led on an increadibly stupid attack down a valley lined with Russian artillery?
For bonus points, name the British commander(s, I suppose) who ordered said attack.
For extra bonus points, tell me how many charged and how many came out alive.
For super-special bonus points, tell me with a straight face that said charge was a victory.

Sorry, couldnt help it :P

You obviously don't understand the concept of the "glorious defeat"! :p

He's alive and well, and living in a mansion with SOMEONE's government approval and protection.

Here' smy logic behind why I think that Osama is dead. If he was severly wounded, his face would be all over al Jazeera, and he would be showing his wounds to the world as badges of honor to incite more young muslems to die to defeat the great satan.

If the US killed him, and told the world about it, he becomes a martyr, and gains more power.

If he simply disappears, even his own men don't know what happened, and he slowly fades away into a footnote in history.

Ever hear of Al Jazeera?

The US media is not the only world news source. Al Jazeera would certainly have reported the 'martyrdom'.

Where is Osama??

Dead.

Hopefully, Osama is planning and executing another attack on the US.

Odds of Nuclear Attack, 2-1.

I can't wait to watch it on the BBC!

Where do you think Osama bin Laden is?

With all this distraction with the war in Iraq, and escalating conflict with Iran and blahblahblah...

How is Osama avoiding the most accomplished military in the world?


He doesnt exist... he never did... it was a ruse.

Hopefully, Osama is planning and executing another attack on the US.

Odds of Nuclear Attack, 2-1.

I can't wait to watch it on the BBC!

Ummm... why do you want the inevitable massive thermonuclear bombardment of several middle-eastern countries?

Here's how it would work:

AQ detonates a nuke in, say, minneapolis, or Baltimore, or (ooh...) DC.

There are policies still in effect since 1950 or so. The U.S. response, is to start glassing Islamic countries. Now, we dropped development of the Neutron bomb, so what you're getting (in the first few minutes) is blasts with lots and lots of fallout. Since Strategic nuclear policy is, what it is, those will be accompanied by pre-emptive strikes on Russian, Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Paki (at minimum) nuclear sites-to prevent the global programmed-reaction from the U.S. uncorking the bottle again.

Some of those will be accurate, most will not-unless CIA's better at their job than the last twenty years have shown. Most will be accurate enough to kill a lot of people.

Incidentally, Israel will probably take the opportunity to remove Syria, most of Lebanon, Jordan, and anyone else they see as a threat with their bombs.

The (quite natural) reaction to the U.S. response, is to make several American states glow-in-the-dark. Since GB is a U.S. Ally, guess who gets the canned-sunlight along with the U.S...

Second strikes will take out "Minor" and "Possible" threats -and they'll likely be launched by everyone with an Egg (except maybe the French-they don't have anything intercontinental and they're not likely to have a readily available target short of N. Africa....)

Contemplate, if you will, being burned, bleeding, blinded, deaf, and dying slowly in a world that basically has just had the first REAL man-made ecological disaster in human history. If you think you're safe in Australia, you're not-think "Trade Winds", and "Strontium 90 fallout" (Half life 10,000 years, lethal radiation effects last centuries, and it's portable by wind-currents in the upper atmosphere.)

If the speculations about "Nuclear Winter" are wrong, you'll die of radiation poisoning a few months after the two-hour fight. If they're right, kiss your ass goodbye anyway-even a remarkably well-equipped, isolated shelter has finite fuel, food, and clean-water reserves-if you manage to avoid everything else, you'll starve, dehydrate, or suffocate months later.


Further, thanks in part to the Test-ban treaties, the bombs used will be Dirtier radioactively than they would have been during the cold-war. The less complete your fission/fusion reaction, the more contaminated solids you put into the atmosphere, and the worse and longer the Radioactive contamination persists.

People toss the idea of "Nuking" around like candy, without realising what it means. If the reaction wasn't so damned overkill, it would not be difficult for Terrorists (or "Liberation movements") to acquire the weapons, plus the expertise to use the weapons.

Do you really think the US would use nuclear weapons in response to a terrorist doing the same. I know Dubya has shown that the US govt isn't particularly interested in whether the people he attacks have anything to do with terrorism, but I don't see what benefit a nuclear war would have for Bush's corporate masters. Sounds bad for buisiness...

He is sitting back, thanking Mr. Bush for all his hard work. And laughing. Sorry we know where he is. We just don't want to stop the war.

Do you really think the US would use nuclear weapons in response to a terrorist doing the same. I know Dubya has shown that the US govt isn't particularly interested in whether the people he attacks have anything to do with terrorism, but I don't see what benefit a nuclear war would have for Bush's corporate masters. Sounds bad for buisiness...

Many of the Bush cronies are deeply involved in security and weapons manufacturing. If you make warheads, and no one ever uses the ones they buy, they won't buy any more. If they USE the warheads, they will need to buy more.

Basic consumerism. YOu gotta create a market for your product.

I vote for the option "other".

He's hidden now, but you'll see in about 20 years in Marbella, with the new King of Saudi Arabia -like his father did- and all those CEO's with bank accounts in Switzerland.

Amazing how close the options of "in some other country hiding" and "in a nicely furnished mansion with secret service guarding him" are running neck and neck at the top of the poll.

I think he's in some other country hiding in a nicely furnished mansion with secret service men guarding him. The two are not mutually exclusive. :D

I'm gunna use a BUMP on this one. It's Improtant.

Hmm.....

I thought this thread would get more activity. Just for the simple reason people like to vote in polls.

Apparently, the Bush Admin. has so successfully distracted our attention away from bin Laden, it is not such a concern for most people.

He has shaved and is working as a farm hand in Montana? Tell us.

He could be pumping gas in NJ or working at a Dunkin Donuts making double shot iced decaff french vanilla lattes.

It wasnt long ago the world laughed at the thought of us capturing sadaam alive.
We'll catch this slithering fucker too.

AHHHHH, more America bashing posts. Arent yall sick of this shit yet?

I have now completely lost what little faith I had in NS polls.

The damn french are hiding him !

It wasnt long ago the world laughed at the thought of us capturing sadaam alive.
We'll catch this slithering fucker too.

No, you won't.

Saddam <<<<<<<<<< Usama.

How is Osama avoiding the most accomplished military in the world?

I'm sorry, but your talking about an army that has a history of bombing their own people

Probably hiding out Sudan or Africa. The country is full of brain-washed starving people, something Bin laden can probably use to his advantage. He'll tell them allah will magically drop sheep from heaven if they bring down the infidel empire....

:rolleyes:

I didn't know our Air Force dropped foodpacs full of sheep.

After he escaped Afghanistan after the whole Tora Bora thing, he fled north to Uzbekistan.

He then went to western China, where he underwent extensive plastic surgery to transform his appearence to that of a slightly alcholic, red-headed amputee of Irish descent.

He then traveled south to Vietnam, caught a flight to the Phillipines, then another to the U.S.

He currently works at a Home Depot in Las Cruces, New Mexico.

:p

I'm sorry, but your talking about an army that has a history of bombing their own people

Okay, you caught me. I just put the comment about 'the most accomplished military' as polemic. This wasn't supposed to turn into a debate about whether or not they actually ARE the most accomplished.

Maybe i should have said the military with the largest funding.

Regardless, the question remains, where is Osama that the US/Coalition military 'can't' find him?

Regardless, the question remains, where is Osama that the US/Coalition military 'can't' find him?

Maybe because they're not looking? Given how "pooh pooh" the administration is about looking for him, I'd say that attitude probably filtered down to the military branch as well. Either that or they never really cared about catching him in the first place.

This one's easy:

Arnold Schwarzenagger

No, you won't.

Saddam <<<<<<<<<< Usama.


Sure we will. I just hope he doesnt survive the capture- I wont be able to stand hearing about how much he enjoys Doritos for his mid morning snack too.

Sure we will. I just hope he doesnt survive the capture- I wont be able to stand hearing about how much he enjoys Doritos for his mid morning snack too.

If he ever gets caught you mean. I'm getting that "WMD in Iraq" feeling when they always talk about "being very close to capturing him"

Sure we will. I just hope he doesnt survive the capture- I wont be able to stand hearing about how much he enjoys Doritos for his mid morning snack too.

No, you won't be capturing him "dead or alive". And you won't be "smoking him out of his hole" either.

Many pointers suggest quite the opposite.

1. Kunduz airlift.

2. The bungling of Tora-Bora operation.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853000/site/newsweek/

3. Osama's visit to Binori for medical treatment.

The first event was facilitated by US. At that time I thought that the US had made a deal of letting go the taliban in exchange for Osama.

But then in the Tora Bora operation, instead of using daisy cutters and decimating the place or going in with full strength, the US bungled the operation and let Osama escape. If one is to believe the link above, it was done deliberately.

Reg, the third event, the Paki intelligence practically facilitated his trip to Binori and his eventual disappearance in the Dir valley. Given the extent of humint and elint that US has in Pakistan, this must have been known to the US and they did'nt or could'nt do anything. Either way, Osama lives and US could do nothing. Well...not exactly nothing, because the US invaded Iraq....I guess to capture Saddama. :p

Anywayz, I am taking bets that he won't be captured anytime soon. Atleast with the current regimes in US and Pakistan. So put off your fantasies for another 3 years atleast.

What a shame...... :(

I personally think that the Shrub doesn't want Osama caught. It would take a lot of wind out of his rhetoric. Even though we all know that the ideas of Al-Qaeda went from a group to a world-wide movement after the Americans attacked Iraq, but he's still the figure head of the movement. I believe that Bush really doesn't want him caught, at least not till the end of his term. If they really wanted to catch him they could of by now. Maybe Bush is just waiting for the last weeks of his term in office and then as his crowning jewel he'll announce he's been caught. I don't put nothing past the Shrub!

I personally think that the Shrub doesn't want Osama caught. It would take a lot of wind out of his rhetoric. Even though we all know that the ideas of Al-Qaeda went from a group to a world-wide movement after the Americans attacked Iraq, but he's still the figure head of the movement. I believe that Bush really doesn't want him caught, at least not till the end of his term. If they really wanted to catch him they could of by now. Maybe Bush is just waiting for the last weeks of his term in office and then as his crowning jewel he'll announce he's been caught. I don't put nothing past the Shrub!


It would be fine with me-maybe bin laden is on ice right now and they'll bring him out later.

As long as hes dead.

Osama Bin Laden is being hidden by the French.

The French also have Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Solution: Invade France.

Osama Bin Laden is being hidden by the French.

The French also have Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Solution: Invade France.

Very funny, not... :rolleyes:

Osama Bin Laden is being hidden by the Americans.

The Americans also have Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Solution: America self destructs.

Fixed ;)

Yeah.

America has WMD

America has a lunatic leader that is willing to use WMD and invade soveregn nations.

America needs a 'regime change'.

Now, if some outside country (lets say China) used that rationalization, how many American citizens would suddenly become INSURGENTS against Chinese occupation?

American foreign policy is living a pipe dream, and waking up in a nightmare.

Well DUH everyone knows osama was a clone of osama whose dna degraded during the war on afghanistan... lol :sniper:

Osama Bin Laden is being hidden by the French.

The French also have Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Solution: Invade France.

Oh, come on now! Everybody's done that! :D

i would imagine he's in a cave somewhere... hopefully he hasn't had a bath in months, is flea-bitten, and has contracted a water-borne bacterium and is dying as we speak.

:D I think it's fairly blatent that his is with hitler and jesus hiding under the north pole. enjoying first trading rights with the USA and GB :p

There are more posts in this thread that are in jest than those that are serious.

The Iraq diversion is a great success...