NationStates Jolt Archive


If you or your children can't stop having the old heave-ho

Chomskyrion
26-08-2005, 23:54
Then build a lockable anti-masturbation belt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chastity_belt_Heyser_0.png). Or see if there are any online stores that sell them.


It's got a U.S. patent! That means it works!

EDIT: Teenagers can probably wear it under their clothes, when they go to school too!
Xenophobialand
27-08-2005, 00:05
Why does the old saw about "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" spring to my mind right now. . .
Katganistan
27-08-2005, 00:08
US patent?

Wasn't this called a chastity belt in the Middle Ages?
Jenrak
27-08-2005, 00:10
Oh my!
BrightonBurg
27-08-2005, 00:19
Sand Paper and Duct Tape.
Chomskyrion
27-08-2005, 00:20
US patent?

Wasn't this called a chastity belt in the Middle Ages?
You're right. I thought that the chastity belt wasn't actually like that. And it probably wasn't, but later, historians thought it was, and inventors designed actual chastity belts to prevent sex or masturbation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity_belt

And I also read that forcing people to wear chastity belts is illegal in most countries, so, I must clarify:
Don't force anyone to wear a chastity belt.

By the way, what's the Christian cure for blue balls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_balls)? Prayer?

And don't say Christian men don't get blue balls. That's like saying the Queen of England doesn't fart.
Call to power
27-08-2005, 00:34
That's like saying the Queen of England doesn't fart.

I would love to see some proof of this
Fass
27-08-2005, 00:59
Why would you want to stop masturbating? Why would you like to stop your children from doing it?
Colodia
27-08-2005, 01:01
...I'll find a way! ;)
Vetalia
27-08-2005, 01:01
Why would you want to stop masturbating? Why would you like to stop your children from doing it?

Why would you even be thinking about whether or not your children are masturbating?
Fass
27-08-2005, 01:03
Why would you even be thinking about whether or not your children are masturbating?

Because you've seen them do it, I suppose. Or you discovered traces...
Vetalia
27-08-2005, 01:06
Because you've seen them do it, I suppose. Or you discovered traces...

I still think that's something you have to make an effort to discover.
Fass
27-08-2005, 01:13
I still think that's something you have to make an effort to discover.

Stiff socks in the laundry don't require all that much effort to find. Walking in on someone doing it doesn't either.
Colodia
27-08-2005, 01:15
Stiff socks in the laundry don't require all that much effort to find. Walking in on someone doing it doesn't either.
Wait...stiff socks?

*writes that down*

Seriously. What the hell....socks? Why....I know the shape and everything...but....socks?
Call to power
27-08-2005, 01:18
Stiff socks in the laundry don't require all that much effort to find. Walking in on someone doing it doesn't either.

or what about a fishy smell or an addiction to the internet
Luporum
27-08-2005, 01:19
I don't get it, the church wants to stop teenagers from having sex so the church says they can't masturbate anymore. Masturbation is probably the best way to stop people from having sex :D
Call to power
27-08-2005, 01:19
Wait...stiff socks?

*writes that down*

Seriously. What the hell....socks? Why....I know the shape and everything...but....socks?

it is supposed to feel like a pussy (cat?) but it dosn't really you just get cotton in your foreskin

EDIT: damm words
Fass
27-08-2005, 01:21
Wait...stiff socks?

*writes that down*

Seriously. What the hell....socks? Why....I know the shape and everything...but....socks?

I was using a stereotypical answer. Replace "socks" with "cum rag."
Fass
27-08-2005, 01:22
it is supposed to feel like a pussy (cat?) but it dosn't really you just get cotton in your foreskin

EDIT: damm words

From what I gather, Americans seem to mostly be a snipped bunch, so no foreskin tricks for them.
Vetalia
27-08-2005, 01:23
From what I gather, Americans seem to mostly be a snipped bunch, so no foreskin tricks for them.

Yep, more or less standard policy. I don't even know if it's optional anymore?
Call to power
27-08-2005, 01:24
From what I gather, Americans seem to mostly be a snipped bunch, so no foreskin tricks for them.

wow why?
Fass
27-08-2005, 01:26
wow why?

No real reason, apparently. They just started doing it and do it because that's what they do. Makes no sense really, but neither do many other American phenomena.
Fass
27-08-2005, 01:28
Yep, more or less standard policy. I don't even know if it's optional anymore?

Parental consent is always needed. True, there are parents who claim to have been pressured into having it done to their children, but it's still their choice.
Call to power
27-08-2005, 01:30
No real reason, apparently. They just started doing it and do it because that's what they do. Makes no sense really, but neither do many other American phenomena.

so that’s why in porn the guy is always without a hat (not gay or anything but just wondered why?)

at least I have some spare skin for grafting should my face melt
Fass
27-08-2005, 01:39
so that’s why in porn the guy is always without a hat (not gay or anything but just wondered why?)

If it's American produced porn, that is the main reason. Remarkably enough, uncut men tend to be viewed as appealing to a fetish market that has sprung up due to the rareness of foreskins.

at least I have some spare skin for grafting should my face melt

Or to construct an artificial vagina, should you wish to change your sex sometime. Or to play docking games with. Or to have nibbled/chewed/sucked/threaded over tongue during oral sex. Or to have stretching competitions with. Etc. Etc. Etc. (They do tend to be useful, the little flaps.)
Lunatic Goofballs
27-08-2005, 01:47
Then build a lockable anti-masturbation belt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chastity_belt_Heyser_0.png). Or see if there are any online stores that sell them.


It's got a U.S. patent! That means it works!

EDIT: Teenagers can probably wear it under their clothes, when they go to school too!

Ha! If I can escape from a straitjacket, I think I can break into one of those with ease. :cool:
Call to power
27-08-2005, 01:51
fetish market that has sprung up due to the rareness of foreskins.

wow I found something to do in my sparetime :D


(They do tend to be useful, the little flaps.)

I wonder if I can store nuts there ;)
Tropical Montana
27-08-2005, 01:55
Chastity belts in the middle ages were for WOMEN to wear. Men locked their women into them when they went off on the Crusades so no one else could have them. I don't think they cared about men being chaste back then.

It makes more sense that (virtually) all American males are circumcised when you consider the percentage of Jewish doctors in the AMA. They try to come up with 'scientific' reasons why the foreskin should be removed, but the only one that holds water is that a circumcised one is slightly easier to clean.

Seems to me that teaching boys to wash better would be preferable to amputation.

Personally, i think they work better the way God made them. Fewer friction burns ;)
Call to power
27-08-2005, 01:58
lol people who aren’t circumcised have more feeling :D
Neaness
27-08-2005, 02:06
There's some new study that says that being circumsised significantly reduces the chances of getting AIDS.


*hunts it down*

"A second study, composed of South African men and whose results were announced last month, found that circumcised men were seventy percent less likely to contract HIV than an uncircumcised control group. The findings, published in The Wall Street Journal, were so dramatic that the study was halted for nine months so that the control group could benefit from circumcision. One of the French researchers pitched circumcision as a viable preventative measure against infection at an AIDS Society meeting in Brazil at the end of last month, reports National Geographic. "

Wall Street Journal link (casts some aspersions on the study) (http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/wsj/access/862711291.html?dids=862711291:862711291&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Jul+5%2C+2005&author=Mark+Schoofs%2C+Sarah+Lueck+and+Michael+M.+Phillips&type=8_90&desc=Study+Says+Circumcision+Reduces+AIDS+Risk+by+70%25)

National Geographic link (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0726_050726_circumcision.html)



Personally, though, if I have boys, they get to keep their foreskin. If it creates problem, there's always adult circumcision (Usually only done for medical reasons.)
Call to power
27-08-2005, 02:15
its amazing how a debate about a product could lead to a discussion about circumcision

if you give me one more good reason to be circumcised I might do it!
Chomskyrion
27-08-2005, 04:46
I'm American and I'm uncircumcised, but just because my dad's British, he's uncircumcised, and my parents agreed, I might be freaked out as a child to see that my dad has a different penis and they didn't see any point in doing it. Anyway, somehow, the topic came up in conversation with my friends a while ago. They were all like, "Whaaaaaaat?" So, yes, in America, being uncircumcised is like having a third nipple.

In any case, no one answered my question. Neo Rogolia or any other Christian fundies: What is the Christian cure for blue balls?

Oh, and by the way... Congratulations. If you've circumcised, you have a 70% lower chance of getting AIDS. Wow. It sure is a good thing I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE SEX WITH A GIRL THAT HAS AIDS. Really, that's not much of an incentive. That's like saying, if you're circumcised, and you shoot your dick off, you have a higher chance of recovery. I'm not going to face that circumstance, regardless!!
Monkeypimp
27-08-2005, 05:06
I don't want to stop masturbating.


I would like to not want to because I have a lady friend, but as is, I'm happy enough..
Iztatepopotla
27-08-2005, 05:16
Chastity belts in the middle ages were for WOMEN to wear. Men locked their women into them when they went off on the Crusades so no one else could have them.


Curiously that's when locksmithing really took off as a profession (and hobby) :)
The Downmarching Void
27-08-2005, 07:01
There's some new study that says that being circumsised significantly reduces the chances of getting AIDS.


*hunts it down*

"A second study, composed of South African men and whose results were announced last month, found that circumcised men were seventy percent less likely to contract HIV than an uncircumcised control group. The findings, published in The Wall Street Journal, were so dramatic that the study was halted for nine months so that the control group could benefit from circumcision. One of the French researchers pitched circumcision as a viable preventative measure against infection at an AIDS Society meeting in Brazil at the end of last month, reports National Geographic. "

Wall Street Journal link (casts some aspersions on the study) (http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/wsj/access/862711291.html?dids=862711291:862711291&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Jul+5%2C+2005&author=Mark+Schoofs%2C+Sarah+Lueck+and+Michael+M.+Phillips&type=8_90&desc=Study+Says+Circumcision+Reduces+AIDS+Risk+by+70%25)

National Geographic link (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0726_050726_circumcision.html)



Personally, though, if I have boys, they get to keep their foreskin. If it creates problem, there's always adult circumcision (Usually only done for medical reasons.)

Having suffered through such an operation when I was 7 years old, all I can say is: Good...but pray for them, that they never do need the operation...oh and one more thing I have to say is "OW! That fucking hurt!"
Holy_ness
27-08-2005, 07:18
Then build a lockable anti-masturbation belt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chastity_belt_Heyser_0.png). Or see if there are any online stores that sell them.


It's got a U.S. patent! That means it works!

EDIT: Teenagers can probably wear it under their clothes, when they go to school too!


Thats retarded it is creepy 2 beat your meat but belive it or not it IS healthy it reduces your chances of prostate cancer by up to 25% and id rather jerk off then a docter cut it off
Holy_ness
27-08-2005, 07:19
Having suffered through such an operation when I was 7 years old, all I can say is: Good...but pray for them, that they never do need the operation...oh and one more thing I have to say is "OW! That fucking hurt!"



HA HA i got circumcized when i was born so i dont remember a thing
Holy_ness
27-08-2005, 07:20
Curiously that's when locksmithing really took off as a profession (and hobby) :)


LMAO I wonder why
BackwoodsSquatches
27-08-2005, 07:25
its amazing how a debate about a product could lead to a discussion about circumcision

if you give me one more good reason to be circumcised I might do it!


My best friend's father, was not circumsized as an infant.
In his case, the foreskin actually began to eventually cut off the flow of blood to the rest of his penis.
If left unchecked, it could have led to tissue damage....

So..in his middle 30's...they had to circumsize him.

Why in his mid 30's?

Its about the time in life when you are usually at your largest, physically.
Sometimes people arent as active in thier mid 30's, as their 20's, and often gain weight.
This can have effects on the girth of a man's unit.

So..unless your Lance Armstrong, and you keep healthy and slim..

..you may eventually have this happen to you.

Oh...and circumsizions reduce smegma.
Gartref
27-08-2005, 07:34
My lockable anti-masturbation belt is filled with veal and vibrates.
Vimeria
27-08-2005, 07:55
Wow, hard-ons are probably a bitch with that thing on.
BackwoodsSquatches
27-08-2005, 07:56
My lockable anti-masturbation belt is filled with veal and vibrates.


So you have an anti-masturbation masturbation belt?
Gartref
27-08-2005, 07:58
So you have an anti-masturbation masturbation belt?

Yes. I use it for ironic orgasms.
Colodia
27-08-2005, 08:00
Wow, hard-ons are probably a bitch with that thing on.
....

*cringe*
Undelia
27-08-2005, 08:03
....

*cringe*
And you thought jeans could be bad. :p
BackwoodsSquatches
27-08-2005, 08:05
Yes. I use it for ironic orgasms.


Those are ones you have, that you werent expecting?
ANGELS DARK REALM
27-08-2005, 08:21
In any case, no one answered my question. Neo Rogolia or any other Christian fundies: What is the Christian cure for blue balls?


I should imagine its pray... and if that fails masterbate lol
Gartref
27-08-2005, 08:46
In any case, no one answered my question. Neo Rogolia or any other Christian fundies: What is the Christian cure for blue balls?


I should imagine its pray... and if that fails masterbate lol

I pray whilst I masturbate. I like to hedge my bets.
New Fubaria
27-08-2005, 08:47
My best friend's father, was not circumsized as an infant.
In his case, the foreskin actually began to eventually cut off the flow of blood to the rest of his penis.
If left unchecked, it could have led to tissue damage....

So..in his middle 30's...they had to circumsize him.

Why in his mid 30's?

Its about the time in life when you are usually at your largest, physically.
Sometimes people arent as active in thier mid 30's, as their 20's, and often gain weight.
This can have effects on the girth of a man's unit.

So..unless your Lance Armstrong, and you keep healthy and slim..

..you may eventually have this happen to you.

Oh...and circumsizions reduce smegma.


I'm uncircumcised, 33 years old, and I weigh over 300 pounds. Guess what? My foreskin has never caused me the slightest problem. No diseases, no nothing.

Smegma? There's a little ritual I use called bathing, I find it very useful for my foreskin and other parts of my body. Here's an idea - kids are always having problems washing behind their ears...why not just snip off their earlobes to make it easier to keep clean? :rolleyes:

http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org/

Quite a number of famous child care experts and doctors recommend against circumcision in their books. Dr. Dean Edell has expressed oposition against infant cirumcision for at least 15 years now. Sheila Kitzinger very emphatically recommends that parents leave their sons intact. Dr. Lendon Smith goes into detail explaining the foreskin’s purposes and giving all the reasons why circumcision should not be performed. Dr. Spock, in his most recent book, stated “I feel that there’s no solid medical evidence at this time to support routine circumcision.” He recommends “leaving the foreskin the way Nature meant it to be.” Penelope Leach also recommends against routine circumcision.
Unlike American parents, few parents worldwide are actually faced with this choice. Their babies are automatically brought home intact. 82% of the world’s living men are intact.
People mistakenly believe the circumcised penis is cleaner. The myth that the penis with a foreskin is difficult to clean is exactly that -- a myth. Cleaning is so simple, it’s amazing that people fret so much about it. The big hoopla over hygiene is pure and unnecessary paranoia. See also: Smegma Beneficial Not Bad
The assumption that circumcision is inevitable at some later time is a myth. This fear is unwarranted. In Taking Care of Your Child, the authors state “The overwhelming majority of uncircumcised boys never develop medical problems.” There is a less than 1% chance that circumcision will ever be medically necessary. If only one out of a hundred boys will require circumcision later, why then should the remaining 99 be automatically circumcised?

http://www.coolnurse.com/circumcision_probs.htm

I was circumcised as an adult as a matter of choice. I had believed that since it was so prevalent there must be some merit to it. Unfortunately, in my case I found a significant loss of intensity of sensation. Had I been aware of this I would never have decided to try this. Pity so many males aren't given the opportunity to decide for themselves about their body.
Rammsteinburg
27-08-2005, 08:47
Why would I want to stop masturbating? :confused:
Thermidore
27-08-2005, 14:40
I'm uncircumcised, 33 years old, and I weigh over 300 pounds. Guess what? My foreskin has never caused me the slightest problem. No diseases, no nothing.

Smegma? There's a little ritual I use called bathing, I find it very useful for my foreskin and other parts of my body. Here's an idea - kids are always having problems washing behind their ears...why not just snip off their earlobes to make it easier to keep clean? :rolleyes:

http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org/

http://www.coolnurse.com/circumcision_probs.htm


Just saw this discussion and I thought I'd point all of ye to the UN forum where's there's been an ongoing debate as to whether or not Male Genital Mutilation should be banned

I'm personally for it, as I believe it is a completely unnecessary medical procedure that can have lasting physical and emotional effects on a man. Also the removal of the foreskin leads to a 60% loss of the erogenous nerve receptors so in other words for those who've had sex with both uncirc-ed and then circ-ed they say it's like seeing in colour and then only being able to see in black and white.

here it is - I'm not going to go into detail, the religious argument is argued out, and there's no real medical proof and the most recent one, the AIDS study is A) very dodgy proof and B) even it was true (and it's nowhere near the number of 70% reduction whoever said that, the link is somewhere in the thread below) does that mean circumcised people should have unprotected sex??? That's ridiculous. And if you then say no they shouldn't well then if everyone wears protection then there's no advantage to having a circumcision and only disadvantages.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=435218
Drunk commies deleted
27-08-2005, 15:35
I'm uncircumcised, 33 years old, and I weigh over 300 pounds. Guess what? My foreskin has never caused me the slightest problem. No diseases, no nothing.

Smegma? There's a little ritual I use called bathing, I find it very useful for my foreskin and other parts of my body. Here's an idea - kids are always having problems washing behind their ears...why not just snip off their earlobes to make it easier to keep clean? :rolleyes:

http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org/






http://www.coolnurse.com/circumcision_probs.htm

This thread's kinda messed up. Now I've got the image of a 300 pound guy cleaning his mule seared into my brain.
Spoffin
27-08-2005, 15:40
Yes. I use it for ironic orgasms.
LOL!
Zanato
27-08-2005, 15:45
I would love to see some proof of this

She either belches or farts. The gas has to go somewhere, and there are only two paths to follow. Up or down. ;)
Liskeinland
27-08-2005, 16:36
How come no one's said this belt is a good idea yet?

My only comment is "ouch".
Demented Hamsters
27-08-2005, 16:45
If you or your children can't stop masturbating...
Then you should get some better pornography.
I find I always stop a few minutes after commencing.
SimNewtonia
27-08-2005, 16:59
lol people who aren’t circumcised have more feeling :D

So that's why... um, never mind.
SimNewtonia
27-08-2005, 17:00
When I saw that thng, (the male c-belt) my first thought was OUCH!
Adlersburg-Niddaigle
27-08-2005, 17:03
Masturbation is a serious problem in sexually repressed countries (or portions thereof). Just think of the stiff socks (?), the years of self-doubt, bad conscience, etc. Instead of masturbation, perhaps the originator of this thread might consider the alternative: real sex with sexually transmitted diseases, unwanted pregnancies which, in the same countries where abortions and morning-after pills are not available, condemn women and their 'illegitimate' children to a life-time of shame and discrimination.

Let people do what the creator intended! Is it any wonder why he/she made the arm the appropriate length? ;)
Vimeria
27-08-2005, 17:06
Just saw this discussion and I thought I'd point all of ye to the UN forum where's there's been an ongoing debate as to whether or not Male Genital Mutilation should be banned

Even though I agree that a circumcision should only be performed when a clear medical reason makes it necessary, please try to avoid emotionally charged terms like 'mutilation'. You'll only alienate the other side of the debate.
Liskeinland
27-08-2005, 17:08
Masturbation is a serious problem in sexually repressed countries (or portions thereof). Just think of the stiff socks (?), the years of self-doubt, bad conscience, etc. Instead of masturbation, perhaps the originator of this thread might consider the alternative: real sex with sexually transmitted diseases, unwanted pregnancies which, in the same countries where abortions and morning-after pills are not available, condemn women and their 'illegitimate' children to a life-time of shame and discrimination.

Let people do what the creator intended! Is it any wonder why he/she made the arm the appropriate length? ;)
Self-doubt and bad conscience are good for the soul. :) Not sure if stiff socks are, though.
Adlersburg-Niddaigle
27-08-2005, 17:13
There's a little ritual I use called bathing, I find it very useful for my foreskin and other parts of my body. Here's an idea - kids are always having problems washing behind their ears...why not just snip off their earlobes to make it easier to keep clean? :rolleyes:



The issue of circumcision is a strange one. Originally, it was intended as a kind of initiation ritual for boys entering puberty, a sign that they were men; it is still practiced in areas of Africa and without anasthetics. And, typically, a number of them don't quite make it through the ritual. cf. Camara Laye, Dark Child.

Those in favor of this practice should listen carefully to the cries of a new-born baby, and compare them to the ungodly screams of an infant who has just been circumcised. That alone would resolve the issue against circumcision.
New Fubaria
27-08-2005, 17:39
This thread's kinda messed up. Now I've got the image of a 300 pound guy cleaning his mule seared into my brain.
ROTFL - yeah, not really the desired effect I had in mind... Oh well, if it makes you sleep any better, pretend it's a prison movie :D :p

http://www.wrestlingworld.it/Historical/Biografie/BigBossMan/1.jpg
Vimeria
27-08-2005, 18:54
If it's American produced porn, that is the main reason. Remarkably enough, uncut men tend to be viewed as appealing to a fetish market that has sprung up due to the rareness of foreskins.

Yes! Finally I've found the gimmick that'll get me into the business of having sex with beautiful women all the time. I may not have perfect looks, I may not be exceptionally well hung, but by God do I have a fine foreskin!