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Notebook

Spoffin
26-08-2005, 22:07
The methodology/ mentality of the Notebook is hard to describe. The form is easier. Its a notebook, which contains picures, phrases, sketches, quotes, a couple of verses here and there and an ongoing story that'll slowly reveal itself as you read on. You can check out some pages here:

Chapter 1
Page 1 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page1Whereveryougo.jpg)
Page 2 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page2Introduction.jpg)
Page 3 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page3SailingBoat.jpg)
Page 4 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page4AdamLeaves.jpg)
Page 5 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page5Itinerary.jpg)
Page 6 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page61stlieofHollywood.jpg)
Page 7 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page7Key.jpg)
Page 8 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page8Tessasmonologue1.jpg)
Page 9 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page9Tessasmonologue2.jpg)
Page 10 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page10Desert.jpg)
Page 11 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page11TheNote.jpg)
Page 12 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page12Tomsnight.jpg)
Page 13 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page13ValleyDream.jpg)
Page 14 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page14Nautilus.jpg)
Page 15 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page15ChapterEnd.jpg)

Chapter 2
Page 1 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page17Snake.jpg)
Page 2 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page18Red1.jpg)
Page 3 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page19Red2.jpg)
Page 4 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page20Whisperslies.jpg)
Page 5 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page21Beach.jpg)
Page 6 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page22Cypher.jpg)


Series of Dreams (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page98SeriesofDreams.jpg)

Air (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page83Air.jpg)
Earth (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page84Earth.jpg)
Water (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page85Water.jpg)
Fire (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page86Fire.jpg)
Call to power
26-08-2005, 22:15
you might want to work on the handwritting (though I can't talk)
The South Islands
26-08-2005, 22:16
I love you, Spoffin...
Spoffin
26-08-2005, 22:40
you might want to work on the handwritting (though I can't talk)Its not supposed to look like its been typed or anything
Spoffin
26-08-2005, 22:43
I love you, Spoffin...
Erm, cool
Cannot think of a name
26-08-2005, 23:12
Kind of a House of Leaves feel to it. I'd get rid of the second page all together. The wink to an acknowledged audience belies the 'found art' feel to the rest of it, that it really is just a notebook that you found on the bus that reading it eventually revealed a story. The second page is a kind of curtain that seperates it-makes it a book again and I think that the overall effect and statement, that there is art in everyday lives/objects that is only available on examination, is weakened by an introduction. You want the reader to have to wonder if you just found the book and decided to publish it.
Spoffin
26-08-2005, 23:21
Kind of a House of Leaves feel to it. I'd get rid of the second page all together. The wink to an acknowledged audience belies the 'found art' feel to the rest of it, that it really is just a notebook that you found on the bus that reading it eventually revealed a story. The second page is a kind of curtain that seperates it-makes it a book again and I think that the overall effect and statement, that there is art in everyday lives/objects that is only available on examination, is weakened by an introduction. You want the reader to have to wonder if you just found the book and decided to publish it.
I've had the comparison to House of Leaves before actually, so I'm gonna try and find a copy of that to check out.

The second page, I've had some people who really liked it, and some who didn't like it at all. At some point I'm gonna want to reassess the book as a whole.
Cannot think of a name
26-08-2005, 23:30
I've had the comparison to House of Leaves before actually, so I'm gonna try and find a copy of that to check out.


Don't sweat the comparisons, really. I only mentioned it because it has found narrative as part of the story. In no way am I suggesting that yours is 'just like' or even 'been done' or what ever the bitter nattering neighbobs of negativity say when they encounter someone elses work. The similarity is really only in the 'found' nature with it's requisite non-sequitors that eventually mean something. It just came to mind, and that might even be in part to me just finding my copy and my coworkers reading it. For the record, I already like yours better than I liked the other...
Aerou
26-08-2005, 23:42
I've had the comparison to House of Leaves before actually, so I'm gonna try and find a copy of that to check out.

The House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski. (Brother of singer Poe). HoL is ones of my favourites.

It will be fun for you to fill the pages of the book with randomness, and when you're done with it, you should go set it somewhere. It would be interesting for a passerby to pick it up and share it with others.
Kreitzmoorland
27-08-2005, 00:00
That's lovely Spoffin! my advice to you is to keep it simple - not "randomness" but not entirely linear either. Anyway, keep it updated for us, and your handwriting is fine.
Spoffin
27-08-2005, 00:12
Don't sweat the comparisons, really. I only mentioned it because it has found narrative as part of the story. In no way am I suggesting that yours is 'just like' or even 'been done' or what ever the bitter nattering neighbobs of negativity say when they encounter someone elses work.Sure, no, I didn't think you were.
The similarity is really only in the 'found' nature with it's requisite non-sequitors that eventually mean something. It just came to mind, and that might even be in part to me just finding my copy and my coworkers reading it.Did you actually find it? Where?
For the record, I already like yours better than I liked the other...Thanks.
Spoffin
27-08-2005, 00:13
That's lovely Spoffin! my advice to you is to keep it simple - not "randomness" but not entirely linear either. Anyway, keep it updated for us, and your handwriting is fine.
Thanks, and I'll be posting up another couple of pages tommorow.
Cannot think of a name
27-08-2005, 00:16
Sure, no, I didn't think you were.
Did you actually find it? Where?
Thanks.
It's a fairly popular book, you should be able to pick it up at any largish bookstore in the fiction section. Use the info that the above poster gave you.

or here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375703764/qid=1125098106/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5349276-9131255?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
Spoffin
27-08-2005, 02:35
It's a fairly popular book, you should be able to pick it up at any largish bookstore in the fiction section. Use the info that the above poster gave you.

or here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375703764/qid=1125098106/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5349276-9131255?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
Sorry, I was asking if you meant "found" as in "discovered" or "chanced upon", as opposed to bought or borrowed.
Cannot think of a name
27-08-2005, 02:41
Sorry, I was asking if you meant "found" as in "discovered" or "chanced upon", as opposed to bought or borrowed.
My bad. No, a lit teacher friend of mine who was enthralled by the idea that tatoo artists liked it.
Spoffin
27-08-2005, 15:02
Page 6 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page61stlieofHollywood.jpg)
Page 7 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page7Key.jpg)
Page 8 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page8Tessasmonologue1.jpg)
Page 9 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page9Tessasmonologue2.jpg)
Spoffin
27-08-2005, 23:34
bump
Kreitzmoorland
27-08-2005, 23:49
thanks.
Spoffin
28-08-2005, 05:08
You're welcome
Spoffin
28-08-2005, 18:32
Page 10 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page10Desert.jpg)
Page 11 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page11TheNote.jpg)
Page 12 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page12Tomsnight.jpg)
Spoffin
29-08-2005, 02:45
bump
Spoffin
29-08-2005, 04:34
Sorry, I just want to know, are people reading these and not posting, or is it just that no one is reading it?
Laerod
29-08-2005, 04:43
Sorry, I just want to know, are people reading these and not posting, or is it just that no one is reading it?I've been reading it, but I'll be gone soon (battery's almost dead ;) ) I have something similar, but I'd need a scanner to get it up. It's at about 37 pages (DIN A4) long by now. I call them my thought pages... :D
Spoffin
29-08-2005, 05:04
I've been reading it, but I'll be gone soon (battery's almost dead ;) ) I have something similar, but I'd need a scanner to get it up. It's at about 37 pages (DIN A4) long by now. I call them my thought pages... :D
Well, I'd love to see them if you can. Try a school or library for a scanner maybe. A digital camera should also be able to get some fairly clear images, so long as you have a moderately good resolution and can hold it steady enough.
Balipo
29-08-2005, 19:59
The methodology/ mentality of the Notebook is hard to describe. The form is easier. Its a notebook, which contains picures, phrases, sketches, quotes, a couple of verses here and there and an ongoing story that'll slowly reveal itself as you read on. You can check out some pages here:

Chapter 1
Page 1 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page1Whereveryougo.jpg)
Page 2 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page2Introduction.jpg)
Page 3 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page3SailingBoat.jpg)
Page 4 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page4AdamLeaves.jpg)
Page 5 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page5Itinerary.jpg)
Page 6 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page61stlieofHollywood.jpg)
Page 7 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page7Key.jpg)
Page 8 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page8Tessasmonologue1.jpg)
Page 9 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page9Tessasmonologue2.jpg)


Good for you. That kind of self-exposure takes guts. It's also pretty sexy...but guts kiddo...guts.
Spoffin
30-08-2005, 03:44
Good for you. That kind of self-exposure takes guts. It's also pretty sexy...but guts kiddo...guts.
Thanks. I took a really long time before I'd show this to anyone at all, and then it was only to just a very few people, but I kept getting positive reactions so I thought what the hell?

Anyway, next three pages
Page 13 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page13ValleyDream.jpg)
Page 14 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page14Nautilus.jpg)
Page 15 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page15ChapterEnd.jpg)
Page 16 is left blank, so that's the end of chapter 1
Spoffin
30-08-2005, 15:27
bump
Spoffin
30-08-2005, 23:23
Chapter 2
Page 17 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page17Snake.jpg)
Page 18 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page18Red1.jpg)
Page 19 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page19Red2.jpg)
Spoffin
10-09-2005, 03:18
Page 20 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page20Whisperslies.jpg)
Laerod
10-09-2005, 03:36
Well, I'd love to see them if you can. Try a school or library for a scanner maybe. A digital camera should also be able to get some fairly clear images, so long as you have a moderately good resolution and can hold it steady enough.My university library has copy machines, not scanners... and I don't have a camera either. I'm going to try to get a couple pages scanned when I go back to Berlin for the German elections.

The pages are completely in blue ink, something I adopted to ensure some kind of uniformity...
Spoffin
10-09-2005, 03:38
My university library has copy machines, not scanners... and I don't have a camera either. I'm going to try to get a couple pages scanned when I go back to Berlin for the German elections.

The pages are completely in blue ink, something I adopted to ensure some kind of uniformity...
Well, like I say, I'd love to see them.
Laerod
10-09-2005, 03:42
Well, like I say, I'd love to see them.Hehehe. Just recently a friend of mine offered to pay money for copies... :D
Kreitzmoorland
10-09-2005, 03:43
I'm reading them....

It's turning sinister though!
Spoffin
10-09-2005, 05:31
Is sinister good?
Spoffin
10-09-2005, 21:31
bu-bump.
Spoffin
10-09-2005, 22:03
Page 21 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page21Beach.jpg)
The South Islands
10-09-2005, 22:08
Page 21 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page21Beach.jpg)


Uplifting, Spoffin.
Spoffin
10-09-2005, 22:52
Thanks
Spoffin
11-09-2005, 00:15
Its a blog!

http://spoffin.blogspot.com/
Spoffin
12-09-2005, 00:50
I got House of Leaves btw. The two colour edition as well, which I had to go all the way to New York for (I was going anyway, but still)
Spoffin
12-09-2005, 05:51
Page 22 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page22Cypher.jpg) is a cypher puzzle.
Balipo
12-09-2005, 16:30
Thanks. I took a really long time before I'd show this to anyone at all, and then it was only to just a very few people, but I kept getting positive reactions so I thought what the hell?



You should keep it up. I've never posted any of my writing online (disincluding lyrics to songs I helped write, but that was generally in mp3 format). Although I did have an idea once about e-mailing two lines of a poem to one person, having them add 2 lines and sending it to one person and seeing how many people would keep it up, provided that they keep everyone who sent it to them in the cc: line.

I don't know that anyone would do it.
Spoffin
14-09-2005, 05:02
One that's gonna go a bit later on

Series of Dreams (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page98SeriesofDreams.jpg)
Spoffin
14-09-2005, 05:04
You should keep it up. I've never posted any of my writing online (disincluding lyrics to songs I helped write, but that was generally in mp3 format). Although I did have an idea once about e-mailing two lines of a poem to one person, having them add 2 lines and sending it to one person and seeing how many people would keep it up, provided that they keep everyone who sent it to them in the cc: line.

I don't know that anyone would do it.
Well, I dunno, I mean judging by the things I get forwarded, it seems that some people will send anything...

The problem actually is what to do if someone breaks a link in the chain.
Spoffin
16-09-2005, 05:34
Air (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page83Air.jpg)
The South Islands
16-09-2005, 05:45
Spoffin, can I buy a copy when it's all done? It would look nice on my coffee table.
Spoffin
16-09-2005, 06:04
Erm, yeah, I guess so.
Spoffin
19-09-2005, 00:29
Earth (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page84Earth.jpg)
Spoffin
19-09-2005, 02:52
bump
Spoffin
19-09-2005, 23:44
Water (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page85Water.jpg)
Spoffin
20-09-2005, 19:00
Fire (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page86Fire.jpg)
Spoffin
25-09-2005, 01:29
Page 23 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page23Treehouse.jpgjpg)
Page 25 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page25Monument.jpg)
Spoffin
25-09-2005, 03:08
bump
Erastide
25-09-2005, 03:33
Is it bad to say I am totally and utterly befuddled by this? :p Either my cold is making me incapable of thought or I've completely missed the point.
Spoffin
28-09-2005, 21:37
Is it bad to say I am totally and utterly befuddled by this? :p Either my cold is making me incapable of thought or I've completely missed the point.
What makes you think there is a point? Why would what I think its about be more useful or important than what you think its about?

If I could explain all of this in just a couple of dozen words, then I don't think there'd be any point in creating it at all
Spoffin
29-09-2005, 02:35
Just react to it, any reaction is legitimate.
Spoffin
18-10-2005, 02:01
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Spoffin
22-10-2005, 23:58
Page 27 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/Spoffin/Page27IWanttoBelieve.jpg)