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Puzzling case for lawyers or wannabe lawyers.

Zooke
26-08-2005, 19:29
Here's a strange case. See if you can figure out the judge's final determination. Source with answer to follow later. If you know the answer, don't tell!!

At the 1994 annual awards dinner given for Forensic Science, AAFS, President Dr. Don Harper Mills astounded his audience with the legal complications of a bizarre death. Here is the story:

On March 23,1994 the medical examiner viewed the body of Ronald Opus and concluded that he died from a shotgun wound to the head. Mr. Opus had jumped from the top of a ten story building intending to commit suicide. He left a note to that effect, indicating his despondency. As he fell past the ninth floor his life was interrupted by a shotgun blast passing through a window which killed him instantly.

Neither the shooter nor the descender was aware that a safety net had been installed just below at the eighth floor level to protect some building workers and that Ronald Opus would not have been able to complete his suicide the way he had planned.

"Ordinarily," Dr. Mills continued, "a person who sets out to commit suicide and ultimately succeeds, even though the mechanism might not be what he intended, is still defined as committing suicide."

That Mr. Opus was shot on the way to certain death, but probably would not have been successful because of the safety net, caused the medical examiner to feel that he had a homicide on his hands. The room on the ninth floor, whence the shotgun blast emanated, was occupied by an elderly man and his wife. They were arguing vigorously and he was threatening her with a shotgun. The man was so upset that when he pulled the trigger he completely missed his wife and the pellets went through the window, striking Mr. Opus.

When one intends to kill subject A but kills subject B in the attempt, one is guilty of the murder of subject B. When confronted with the murder charge the old man and his wife were both adamant. They both said they thought the shotgun was unloaded. Thed old man said it was his long-standing habit to threaten his wife with the unloaded shotgun. He had no intention to murder her. Therefore the killing of Mr. Opus appeared to be an accident; that is, the gun had been accidentally loaded.

The continuing investigation turned up a witness who saw the old couple's son loading the shotgun about six weeks prior to the fatal accident. It transpired that the old lady had cut off her son's financial support and the son, knowing the propensity of his father to use the shotgun threateningly, loaded the gun with the expectation that his father would shoot his mother. The case now becomes one of murder on the part of the son for the death of Ronald Opus.

Now comes the exquisite twist. Further investigation revealed that the son was, in fact, Ronald Opus. He had become increasingly despondent over the failure of his attempt to engineer his mother's murder. This led him to jump off the ten story building on March 23rd, only to be killed by a shotgun blast passing through the ninth story window.

So, what was the judge's decision, suicide or murder and if it was murder, who was guilty?
Sinuhue
26-08-2005, 19:34
Wow. That'd make a great CSI episode....
Nadkor
26-08-2005, 19:36
Well, if whoever loaded the shotgun knowing it would be used on a person can be tried for murder, then it is suicide.
Sinuhue
26-08-2005, 19:37
I'd hope the guy who shot the gun would be charged with something in regards to threatening his wife in that manner, if not the actual murder...
Kamsaki
26-08-2005, 19:37
I've read this before and happen to know the answer, but I'll not say what the answer is.

Just for the publicity, though, I would have sentenced the deceased to a ten year stint of public service for his own murder by donating him to scientific research. >_>
Silliopolous
26-08-2005, 19:37
The answer is......................













.... it's an urban legend about a MADE up story given (as noted) where the speaker decided that he would have ruled it to be a suicide. However no lawyer ever actually argued the case, so who the hell knows WHAT precedents might have been dragged up to sway the mind of a jurist.
Zooke
26-08-2005, 19:44
I've read this before and happen to know the answer, but I'll not say what the answer is.

Just for the publicity, though, I would have sentenced the deceased to a ten year stint of public service for his own murder by donating him to scientific research. >_>

I like the way you think!! Good idea.
Zooke
26-08-2005, 19:46
The answer is......................

.... it's an urban legend about a MADE up story given (as noted) where the speaker decided that he would have ruled it to be a suicide. However no lawyer ever actually argued the case, so who the hell knows WHAT precedents might have been dragged up to sway the mind of a jurist.

You must have missed reading this


If you know the answer, don't tell!!
Jah Bootie
26-08-2005, 19:48
Well, I'd give the shooter a voluntary manslaughter rap for the son and an aggravated assault on the wife. Of course, a judge wouldn't decide this, a jury would.

EDIT: by the way, I know the "correct" answer is that its a suicide, but I say balls to that. Brandishing a shotgun is reckless, even if you think it's unloaded. The guy needs to check the barrel first, so it's his fault. And why is he doing it in the first place? That's already an aggravated assault, loaded or not.
Zooke
26-08-2005, 20:00
OK, it's suicide. Thanks for cutting short a thread that could have provided some interactive fun without a bunch of bickering like we usually see.

Here's the link.

http://www.darwinawards.com/legends/

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