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This is a flock of racists, fascists, and intolerant *****!!!!!!

How do you let them to appear in their own TV shows???? :confused:

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If in any moment somebody asks him/herself: "Why are we so hated throughout the world?"; the answer is THAT.

only in America :rolleyes:

only in America :rolleyes:
Where we have something called the First Amendment, which means that we can't censor those people.

The list has already been posted before, you're only preaching to the rabid leftist choir now.

Oh, and


"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."



is completely true.

It's called freedom of speech.

Where we have something called the First Amendment, which means that we can't censor those people.

But, we can censor scummy librules and ban gay marriage!

:rolleyes:

Freedom of Speech shouldn't apply to conservatives.

Oh, and


"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."



is completely true.
If you believe this is the case, I reccommend picking up Salvation for Sale by Gerard Thomas Straub.

The idea that European colonists left for the New World to escape religious persecution in order to set up a state based on religious principles is a bit... laughable at best, and downright contradictory at worst.

How do you let them to appear in their own TV shows????

Bolded the key words for you.

If in any moment somebody asks him/herself: "Why are we so hated throughout the world?"; the answer is THAT. THAT hardly is the answer. How many of their TV shows do You get in Madrid? I've only heard about couple of those people (well, maybe that's why I don't particularly hate America...). I can't bring myself to believe those shows air in the middle east either...

"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles.

Which is why the Treaty of Tripoli specifically states that the U.S. is in no way founded on Christian principles. And why only three of the 10 commandments are in our laws.

BTW, since you said that that wuote was entirely true, do you feel that Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln all didn't belong in office?

But, we can censor scummy librules and ban gay marriage!

:rolleyes:
I am a liberal. Where did I say that I wasn't?

But it is dangerous.

That freedom of speech led Hitler to the power, and that freedom of speech let Goebbels lie at every time.

BTW, if 15 years ago an USA citizen says "I am communist!"; would have been his freedom of speech respected?

And, Rogolia, curious coming from a country built on the Principles of Illustration. What will you argue if I tell the USA are a theocracy as Iran? They have politics and religion mixed, too.


** The past elections in Iran were free and clean, by the way.**

I am a liberal. Where did I say that I wasn't?

No, no. I was making a comment about how this stuff can go on uncensored, whilst breasts/boobs/tits (among other things, not necessarily to do with nudity) still can't be shown on free air television.

Quite the hypocrisy.

That freedom of speech led Hitler to the power,
Hitler came into power when he forced the German government to make him Chancellor.

No, no. I was making a comment about how this stuff can go on uncensored, whilst breasts/boobs/tits (among other things, not necessarily to do with nudity) still can't be shown on free air television.

Quite the hypocrisy.
Sorry for misinterpreting your comment.

But it is dangerous.

That freedom of speech led Hitler to the power, and that freedom of speech let Goebbels lie at every time.

BTW, if 15 years ago an USA citizen says "I am communist!"; would have been his freedom of speech respected?

And, Rogolia, curious coming from a country built on the Principles of Illustration. What will you argue if I tell the USA are a theocracy as Iran? They have politics and religion mixed, too.


** The past elections in Iran were free and clean, by the way.**




Does any specific Church head the country, or mean with Christian ideals? Only when the Church itself is the governing the nation, is it subject to being deemed a theocracy. People throw the term around too loosely.

But it is dangerous.

That freedom of speech led Hitler to the power, and that freedom of speech let Goebbels lie at every time.

BTW, if 15 years ago an USA citizen says "I am communist!"; would have been his freedom of speech respected?

And, Rogolia, curious coming from a country built on the Principles of Illustration. What will you argue if I tell the USA are a theocracy as Iran? They have politics and religion mixed, too.


** The past elections in Iran were free and clean, by the way.**
You can't possibly claim to promote free speech while censoring those you don't agree with without looking like a grossly hypocritical fascist.

For those of you that think there wasn't any context to some of those quotes, I pity your ignorance.

THAT hardly is the answer. How many of their TV shows do You get in Madrid? I've only heard about couple of those people (well, maybe that's why I don't particularly hate America...). I can't bring myself to believe those shows air in the middle east either...

I have read those phrases. It can be read in the M.East, too. And while the official position of your country is that and keeps encroaching countries, we are all affected.

and that freedom of speech let Goebbels lie at every time.

Interesting interpretation. So Nazi Germany held freedom of speech dear..?

What will you argue if I tell the USA are a theocracy as Iran? They have politics and religion mixed, too. Google 'Guardians Council' up. Last time I checked, they didn't have that in USA (I have been busy this week, so I might be wrong).

No, no. I was making a comment about how this stuff can go on uncensored, whilst breasts/boobs/tits (among other things, not necessarily to do with nudity) still can't be shown on free air television.

Quite the hypocrisy.
I agree, to a point, but the contexts of political expression and television nudity are somewhat different. I think a better way to illustrate the same point would be to point out that a prime time TV show can show a man getting shot, but it's not allowed to portray certain, more... ahem, carnal themes.

A great example of this rather curious double standard can be found in that superbowl halftime show where whatsherface's titty made a surprise cameo at the end of the show.

To be fair, not many of these people are currently in a position of authority. If this was the roster for the current holders of the seats in the Senate, you'd have my official condemnation and a severe regime change operation on your hands. As it is, though, this is simply a collection of radical pseudo-Christian nut-jobs whose opinions aren't even acknowledged within their own country or denomination.

... I hope. <_<;

Does any specific Church head the country, or mean with Christian ideals? Only when the Church itself is the governing the nation, is it subject to being deemed a theocracy. People throw the term around too loosely.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

A theocracy is when religion rules the government. It doesn't have to be Christianity.

I have read those phrases. It can be read in the M.East, too. And while the official position of your country is that and keeps encroaching countries, we are all affected.
Yeah. We Finns are big on that.

Does any specific Church head the country, or mean with Christian ideals? Only when the Church itself is the governing the nation, is it subject to being deemed a theocracy. People throw the term around too loosely.
Agreed, but the last time this happened to the extent that which you describe was in the goddamn Dark Ages. 800 years, no technological advancement or cultural growth to speak of. Coincidence? You decide.

There is no arguing that the best and most productive periods of human history are also the freest: compare Dark Ages Europe with the Renaissance or the Industrial Revolution to now.

I agree, to a point, but the contexts of political expression and television nudity are somewhat different. I think a better way to illustrate the same point would be to point out that a prime time TV show can show a man getting shot, but it's not allowed to portray certain, more... ahem, carnal themes.

A great example of this rather curious double standard can be found in that superbowl halftime show where whatsherface's titty made a surprise cameo at the end of the show.

Yeah, true. I'm just really pissed off today, so I needed a bit of a reason to say what I said. It still goes, though.

You can show a dude skydiving, forgetting to deploy his cute, and falling into a bunch of moving gears (with all the juicy, gorey goodness), but you can't show nudity

To stay on-topic --- These people have a right to broadcast their opinion. Everybody does, no matter how fucked up and ridiculous it is.

Agreed. Ideas in and of themselves are not hazardous: there is no such thing as a dangerous idea. Only dangerous people.

Yeah, true. I'm just really pissed off today, so I needed a bit of a reason to say what I said. It still goes, though.

You can show a dude skydiving, forgetting to deploy his cute, and falling into a bunch of moving gears (with all the juicy, gorey goodness), but you can't show nudity

To stay on-topic --- These people have a it iright to broadcast their opinion. Everybody does, no matter how fucked up and ridiculous it is.


Perhaps they shouldn't.

Which is why the Treaty of Tripoli specifically states that the U.S. is in no way founded on Christian principles. And why only three of the 10 commandments are in our laws.

BTW, since you said that that wuote was entirely true, do you feel that Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln all didn't belong in office?



The Treaty of Tripoli was created to appease the nations it was directed to. Also, it stated the nation is not founded on the Christian religion itself, not that the advocates of said religion could not influence the government in a manner conducive to the religion.



Oh, and it's wonderful how that site grouped Bush, a white supremecist, Fred Phelps, and Ronald Reagan together. That made my day :D

THAT hardly is the answer. How many of their TV shows do You get in Madrid? I've only heard about couple of those people (well, maybe that's why I don't particularly hate America...). I can't bring myself to believe those shows air in the middle east either...

I have read those phrases. It can be read in the M.East, too. And while the official position of your country is that and keeps encroaching countries, we are all affected.

You can't possibly claim to promote free speech while censoring those you don't agree with without looking like a grossly hypocritical fascist.

The difference between they and me is that I wouldn't kill nor marginate nor prosecute them for their idea. After all, unilateralism is always the one who declare war; the guilty.

Interesting interpretation. So Nazi Germany held freedom of speech dear..?

For a while, while Hitler was president but hadn't abolished the democracy, there was.

Google 'Guardians Council' up. Last time I checked, they didn't have that in USA (I have been busy this week, so I might be wrong).

Yeah, you are wrong. In the USA they're called "the Falcons".

I don't think it's very appropriate to put Fred Phelps and Jerry Falwell on the same page as Reagan and Bush. Not that I like those presidents, but unlike those other two "Christians" they couldn't be classed as having Taliban-like beliefs.

"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."

is completely true.
Isn't there a constitutional law in America that says politicians should never be made to take a religious test before entering office?

Agreed. Ideas in and of themselves are not hazardous: there is no such thing as a dangerous idea. Only dangerous people.Idea: "We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."

Can you think of any helpful interpretation and use of such an idea?

Anyway, just because it's someone's opinion and they have the freedom to say it doesn't make their opinion worthy of respect. We shouldn't have to entertain blatently aggressive and dangerous ideas just because someone has made them.

Perhaps they shouldn't.
Nonsense. Look, I'm the most diehard Objectivist you'll ever meet: I am thoroughly convinced that the vast majority of people on this planet have either incomplete or completely invalid philosophical beliefs and ideas. I believe, with every cell of my being, that I understand these concepts to the extent of my ability as a human being, which is fairly substantial.

That said, people have the right to be wrong because simply put, without all the bullshit floating around none of us would be able to tell right from wrong. Right, as a point of fact, cannot exist without the presence of the wrong to validate it. When you attempt to prune what you see as the 'wrong,' the concept of 'right' begins to lose meaning, both in its political context and it's more abstract philosophical context [i.e. 'suchandsuch a person is [i]right'].

Yeah, you are wrong. In the USA they're called "the Falcons".
These guys?!? The Falcons (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/default.jsp) (they hardly rule, I can tell you)
Hawks? Neocons..?

Idea: "We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."

Can you think of any helpful interpretation and use of such an idea?

Anyway, just because it's someone's opinion and they have the freedom to say it doesn't make their opinion worthy of respect. We shouldn't have to entertain blatently aggressive and dangerous ideas just because someone has made them.
The idea is completely inert until someone acts on it. Entities cause actions, not ideas.

The bottom line is, no religion has a monopoly on intolerance.

To be fair, not many of these people are currently in a position of authority. If this was the roster for the current holders of the seats in the Senate, you'd have my official condemnation and a severe regime change operation on your hands. As it is, though, this is simply a collection of radical pseudo-Christian nut-jobs whose opinions aren't even acknowledged within their own country or denomination

And the CURRENT PRESIDENT; obeyed for some as if he were the Truth.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

A theocracy is when religion rules the government. It doesn't have to be Christianity.

Exactly, and remember what Bush said "God tell me to go to Iraq..."

Yeah. We Finns are big on that.

:D I see...

Idea: "We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."

Can you think of any helpful interpretation and use of such an idea?

Anyway, just because it's someone's opinion and they have the freedom to say it doesn't make their opinion worthy of respect. We shouldn't have to entertain blatently aggressive and dangerous ideas just because someone has made them.

I know a guy that, in summer, goes by the streets with an umbrella. If you ask him why is he wearing that, he'll reply you that "He's waiting the Flood".

reading those statements I think I will have to start burning your flag

and no freedom of speech doesn’t cover racism

Hawks.

That's it; sorry. They're called as 'falcons' (los halcones) in Spain.

The difference between they and me is that I wouldn't kill nor marginate nor prosecute them for their idea. After all, unilateralism is always the one who declare war; the guilty.
And denying them the right to free speech isn't marginating or persecuting them?

You can't promote the ideals of the right of free speech while not allowing those who don't agree with you to have that right.

That's it; sorry. They're called as 'falcons' (los halcones) in Spain.Right, I gathered that much. Just had to post my Falcons joke. (and I do speak some spanish, so I kinda knew). But I don't think religious fanaticism is a thing that is common to them. I don't even think religious reasons are what motivates them, but what do I know. Nothing, that's what.

And denying them the right to free speech isn't marginating or persecuting them?

You can't promote the ideals of the right of free speech while not allowing those who don't agree with you to have that right.

Look, I'm not against other cultures, but I am against the ones who are against other cultures, specially if it is due an auto-proclamated divine Must...

Look, I'm not against other cultures, but I am against the ones who are against other cultures, specially if it is due an auto-proclamated divine Must...

So you're one of those, "I hate those who hate" people?

Oh, and


"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."



is completely true.
Thanks for your input Mullah Omar.

Look, I'm not against other cultures, but I am against the ones who are against other cultures, specially if it is due an auto-proclamated divine Must...
You still haven't let us know how you plan to allow free speech while not letting some have their say.

So you're one of those, "I hate those who hate" people?

Hate? There isn't a softer word? ¿"Cabreo"?

Hate? There isn't a softer word? ¿"Cabreo"?

Ok, you're one of those "I extremely dislike those who extremly dislike" people

For those of you that think there wasn't any context to some of those quotes, I pity your ignorance.
Most of those quotes are bigoted, ignorant, disgusting and unamerican regardless of context.

You still haven't let us know how you plan to allow free speech while not letting some have their say.

You are the one who talks about absolute free speech. I talk about free speech but avoiding fundamentalism and racism.

Ok, you're one of those "I extremely dislike those who extremly dislike" people

Please, discuss a little, lefty-hater. [I suppose]

You are the one who talks about absolute free speech. I talk about free speech but avoiding fundamentalism and racism.
That isn't free speech.

You would advocate oppressing people because of their political or religious opinions?

That isn't free speech.

You would advocate oppressing people because of their political or religious opinions?

Now let's go with morale. Where's the limit between free speech and insane sentences!!??

And, hey, some known conservatives in this forum would exile Sheehan, only because of her opinion. And the "number 700" guy would kill Chavez for being a leftist. That's the freedom of speech do you want me to allow?

sorry for not participating in the current discussion/tiff, but I had to post my personal favorite:

"We don't have to protect the environment; the Second Coming is at hand."

"We don't have to protect the environment; the Second Coming is at hand."
Let's hope it is.

Oh, wait... that would be bad for me... damn!

Now let's go with morale. Where's the limit between free speech and insane sentences!!??
And some like Hitler (go away Godwin) would claim that what people opposing him were saying were 'insane sentences' and, under your rules, not allow them a voice?

Can't you see how it's the same thing?

Let's hope it is.

Oh, wait... that would be bad for me... damn!
Yeah, I'm off to limbo myself :)

reading those statements I think I will have to start burning your flag

and no freedom of speech doesn’t cover racism
Yes it does.

Yeah, I'm off to limbo myself :)
Oh whattahell! I can take that. For the environment. Bring it on!

That isn't free speech.

You would advocate oppressing people because of their political or religious opinions?
That's precisely the point of free speech. Nice words and uncontroversial opinions don't need protection. Radical ideas do. I'm certainly no bible thumper. I disagree with every quote on that web page, but I will stand up for their right to speak.

...talibans

http://www.reandev.com/taliban

This is a flock of racists, fascists, and intolerant *****!!!!!!

How do you let them to appear in their own TV shows???? :confused:

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If in any moment somebody asks him/herself: "Why are we so hated throughout the world?"; the answer is THAT.

I don't see the problem. I'm even thinking of transferring over to Falwell's university-Liberty EDU in Virginia. Great place to be! Jerry Falwell, Pat Buchanan, George w Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Rick Santorum, Pat Roberston, Michael Savage (HE is the MAN!).

FYI, it may sound weird, but this is America, not europe. America is a conservative AND religious country. We own guns, drive SUVs, own Pitbulls, and do everything that europe does not, which makes sense, because we fought a war to get ourselves seperated from European control.

Fred Phelps is a bastard and the next time he goes to viciously attack the family of a fallen hero some smart redneck should set up an IED in front of his car....after all, they "Thank god for IEDs"!

"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"

New qoute of the day! SIGLINE material!

Tony evans? He's right, sadly. One of my friends' son got in trouble for playing with a GIjoe at school. The schools problem? The GIJoe had guns.....I kid thee not, "toy guns".

...talibans

http://www.reandev.com/taliban

This is a flock of racists, fascists, and intolerant *****!!!!!!

How do you let them to appear in their own TV shows???? :confused:

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If in any moment somebody asks him/herself: "Why are we so hated throughout the world?"; the answer is THAT.

Most of the people there are not actually speaking of true Christianity. "My friend, God does not hear the prayer of a Jew" is COMPLETELY wrong. Don't take stuff like this as the Bible's teachings.

Now let's go with morale. Where's the limit between free speech and insane sentences!!??

And, hey, some known conservatives in this forum would exile Sheehan, only because of her opinion. And the "number 700" guy would kill Chavez for being a leftist. That's the freedom of speech do you want me to allow?
Yes, that's exactly the kind of speech we should allow. If you don't let people speak their mind you violate their human rights. If a person says something disgusting, but doesn't endanger another person by saying it, there's no harm in letting him speak.

Pat Robertson said that he beleived the US government should assasinate Chavez. That's political speech and must be protected. Now if he said "I want all of my listeners to grab their guns, infiltrate into Venezuela and try to kill Hugo Chavez" that would not be protected.

And some like Hitler (go away Godwin) would claim that what people opposing him were saying were 'insane sentences' and, under your rules, not allow them a voice?

Can't you see how it's the same thing?

You are losing th real point. And the real point is that

"We don't have to protect the environment; the Second Coming is at hand."

... is an insane sentence. If you want to hear things like that, alright, nobody can forbid it, but it shouldn't be taken seriously, it shouldn't appear in a politics program.

If the American president says

"God told me"

you understand it is not serious. I WON'T forbid him telling me that, but in the same instant he says that I understand that he has gone crazy, I'd call for impeachment now.

You are losing th real point. And the real point is that

"We don't have to protect the environment; the Second Coming is at hand."

... is an insane sentence. If you want to hear things like that, alright, nobody can forbid it, but it shouldn't be taken seriously, it shouldn't appear in a politics program.
Why not? If that's what the person truly believes and bases his politics on, then that is perfectly fine.

If the American president says

"God told me"

you understand it is not serious. I WON'T forbid him telling me that, but in the same instant he says that I understand that he has gone crazy, I'd call for impeachment now.
I agree with you there. A guy should be allowed to say that his invisible friend who lives in the sky talks to him, but if he really beleives it he probably shouldn't be making decisions about the course of a nation. Unfortunately most of my countrymen seriously beleive that god speaks to people and angels sometimes visit them according to a poll I've seen.

Why not? If that's what the person truly believes and bases his politics on, then that is perfectly fine.

So you agree with Bush when "God tells him" things????

Do you believe him??? :confused: :eek:


I don't see the problem. I'm even thinking of transferring over to Falwell's university-Liberty EDU in Virginia. Great place to be! Jerry Falwell, Pat Buchanan, George w Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Rick Santorum, Pat Roberston, Michael Savage (HE is the MAN!).

FYI, it may sound weird, but this is America, not europe. America is a conservative AND religious country. We own guns, drive SUVs, own Pitbulls, and do everything that europe does not, which makes sense, because we fought a war to get ourselves seperated from European control.

The problem comes when you encroach countries and call for our support.

Most of the people there are not actually speaking of true Christianity. "My friend, God does not hear the prayer of a Jew" is COMPLETELY wrong. Don't take stuff like this as the Bible's teachings.

Ok, but the point is that some people defend them anyways, even if they're not true crhristians.

So you agree with Bush when "God tells him" things????

Do you believe him??? :confused: :eek:
Not for a second, but he has every right to say it.

Ok, but the point is that some people defend them anyways, even if they're not true crhristians.I believe you find most Americans here defending their RIGHT to make asses out of themselves. Not so much defending what they actually say (few minor exceptions not included).

Not for a second, but he has every right to say it.

I quote drunk commies deleted.

I believe you find most Americans here defending their RIGHT to make asses out of themselves. Not so much defending what they actually say (few minor exceptions not included).

Then I've been misunderstood.

If a guy says that we shouldn't do anything for the environment because Jesus is returning, I'm nobody to forbid him telling that. The problem comes when he forces other people to disprotect the environment because of that (or mistreat the environment anyways!!!!)

Then I've been misunderstood.

If a guy says that we shouldn't do anything for the environment because Jesus is returning, I'm nobody to forbid him telling that. The problem comes when he forces other people to disprotect the environment because of that (or mistreat the environment anyways!!!!)
I can't see these fruitcakes you quoted in your initial post are in a position to force anybody to do anything. They can and try to convince people to act certain way... but really...

I quote drunk commies deleted.
Good for you, but it's really got little to do with what we were discussing.

I can't see these fruitcakes you quoted in your initial post are in a position to force anybody to do anything. They can and try to convince people to act certain way... but really...

I wasn't forcing anybody; I was shocked and I expressed it in the most relaxing way. You're not censoring me, don't you? ;)

Good for you, but it's really got little to do with what we were discussing.

Oh, falacies not, please. With the permission of DKD, I'll reply to you:

A guy should be allowed to say that his invisible friend who lives in the sky talks to him, but if he really beleives it he probably shouldn't be making decisions about the course of a nation

Now, if you still think that this has nothing to see with the thread, I'll think you've gone out of context.

Most of those quotes are bigoted, ignorant, disgusting and unamerican regardless of context.

UnAmerican? So now verbally saying someone is wrong or they disagree with something is unAmerican? So to follow your faith and religion is unAmerican. Separation of Church and State doesn't imply that politicians must denounce their faith, nor does it imply that their faith cannot influence their political agenda. To forbid these things or these people from saying this stuff is unAmerican.

If I'm wrong, here are some things that are unAmerican

Welfare
Affiemative Action

I wasn't forcing anybody; I was shocked and I expressed it in the most relaxing way. You're not censoring me, don't you? ;)
I wasn't talking about you, really. Just about the site you posted. The first sentence of my last post may lack some commas, but give it another go, please.

Oh, falacies not, please. With the permission of DKD, I'll reply to you:

A guy should be allowed to say that his invisible friend who lives in the sky talks to him, but if he really beleives it he probably shouldn't be making decisions about the course of a nation

Now, if you still think that this has nothing to see with the thread, I'll think you've gone out of context.
We were discussing the finer points of freedom of speech, in a conversation semi-seperate from the main topic of the thread.

UnAmerican? So now verbally saying someone is wrong or they disagree with something is unAmerican? So to follow your faith and religion is unAmerican. Separation of Church and State doesn't imply that politicians must denounce their faith, nor does it imply that their faith cannot influence their political agenda. To forbid these things or these people from saying this stuff is unAmerican.

If I'm wrong, here are some things that are unAmerican

Welfare
Affiemative Action
The ideas they spout are as unamerican as the ideas spread by the KKK and PETA. But still I'll stand up for their right to say them. Welfare isn't unamerican, charity is a good value that our nation should embrace. Affirmative action in the case of black people isn't unamerican, it's just reparations for slavery.

We were discussing the finer points of freedom of speech, in a conversation semi-seperate from the main topic of the thread.

But we finally kept talking about insane phrases... and people... :D

The ideas they spout are as unamerican as the ideas spread by the KKK and PETA. But still I'll stand up for their right to say them. Welfare isn't unamerican, charity is a good value that our nation should embrace. Affirmative action in the case of black people isn't unamerican, it's just reparations for slavery.

Well, if welfare isn't wrong, then my assertion is clearly right then.

Do you lot ALL find a problem with these people, cus I sure as hell don't.

Well, if welfare isn't wrong, then my assertion is clearly right then.
Welfare and Affirmative Action don't violate the constitution. If the majority of the lunatics quoted on that web page got what they wanted, Christian theocracy, ban on democracy, and extermination of gays, that would result in numerous constitutional violations, no? Are they not calling for America to be replaced with a repressive Christian theocracy? I'd call that unamerican.

Welfare and Affirmative Action don't violate the constitution. If the majority of the lunatics quoted on that web page got what they wanted, Christian theocracy, ban on democracy, and extermination of gays, that would result in numerous constitutional violations, no? Are they not calling for America to be replaced with a repressive Christian theocracy? I'd call that unamerican.

Ah, but to get what you want and to say something is two way different things!

Guess what!!! I'm a millionaire!!!!

You wanna know a secret? I'm not, but I said it, so it must be true!!!! Woohoo for liberal thinking and logic!!!

Do you lot ALL find a problem with these people, cus I sure as hell don't.
Problem? I don't. I find them insanely hilarious. Or maybe hilariously insane. But I have no problem with that.

yikes. No wonder people don't like me because I am an evangelical Christain, and a republican...
I think some of it might be out of contex, but most of it in context is just well.... crazy.
We are NOT all like that.
Those people make me sick.... :headbang:

Ah, but to get what you want and to say something is two way different things!

Guess what!!! I'm a millionaire!!!!

You wanna know a secret? I'm not, but I said it, so it must be true!!!! Woohoo for liberal thinking and logic!!!

It is not property of the left-wing people... Look that when Bush says that God talked to him, many conservatives believe it...

And, please, let's not go further on disqualifying tendences...

It is not property of the left-wing people... Look that when Bush says that God talked to him, many conservatives believe it...

And, please, let's not go further on disqualifying tendences...

Yea I know, I hate Bush too. I hate all dumb people. Actually I hate most people on that list, they're all idiots.

YEA FOR LAUGHS AT DUMB PEOPLE!!!!!! :D :D :D

yikes. No wonder people don't like me because I am an evangelical Christain, and a republican...
I think some of it might be out of contex, but most of it in context is just well.... crazy.
We are NOT all like that.


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Ah, but to get what you want and to say something is two way different things!

Guess what!!! I'm a millionaire!!!!

You wanna know a secret? I'm not, but I said it, so it must be true!!!! Woohoo for liberal thinking and logic!!!
They're advocating unamerican ideas, but I'll stand up for their right to say what they want because that's a fine American value. What's the problem with my logic? Liberal thinking is what made this nation great in spite of the loonballs who want to drag us back into the dark ages.

They're advocating unamerican ideas, but I'll stand up for their right to say what they want because that's a fine American value. What's the problem with my logic? Liberal thinking is what made this nation great in spite of the loonballs who want to drag us back into the dark ages.

Yea, sure makes me great. I pay into social security which won't be there when I'm older. I like my money going to me, not others. Cause I work harder than most for it!!!

ALSO, read my last post

Yea, sure makes me great. I pay into social security which won't be there when I'm older. I like my money going to me, not others. Cause I work harder than most for it!!!

ALSO, read my last post
I don't mind paying into social security. My mom collects SS. I'm helping her to supplement her income. All of us who pay into SS are helping to support those who helped build the nation we live in. It's charitable and patriotic.

Yea, sure makes me great. I pay into social security which won't be there when I'm older.
It's 2050 already?

I like my money going to me, not others. Cause I work harder than most for it!!!

Somehow I doubt that. People who have time to spend on the Internet aren't working harder than most.