NationStates Jolt Archive

Real football, the American kind, has started with the pre-season NFL games and college isn't far behind. That made me wonder start to wonder about my thoughts on soccer. I used to consider it a metric sport, but now I'm starting to wonder if it isn't a communist sport, instead. For example:

No one understands the rules.

Workers are prohibited from using the tools that would let them be more productive (hands).

From time to time petty bureaucrats (officials) interfere with play in such a way as to limit production.

Players, coaches, officials and fans are all fully involved (employed) and yet output is miniscule.

Any production is met by celebration all out of proportion to its objective value.

Good points all, but "communist" and "metric" turn out to be inextricably linked. The Soviet Union used the metric system, and Cuba, North Korea, Red China and Vietnam still do.

I guess these are just a few more reasons that the United States will continue to ignore this utterly boring and pointless sport.
Followers are slavishly (religiously?) devoted to the system and their own brand of it and resort to violence at any criticism of either.

Whereas Football represents unrestrained capitalism because the hardest workers (the O and D linemen,) are the lowest paid. :D

(oh, and pretty much just us Americans have failed to switch to the metric system. I think we're becoming terribly slow to adapt.)

Real football, the American kind, has started with the pre-season NFL games and college isn't far behind. That made me wonder start to wonder about my thoughts on soccer. I used to consider it a metric sport, but now I'm starting to wonder if it isn't a communist sport, instead. For example:

No one understands the rules.

Workers are prohibited from using the tools that would let them be more productive (hands).

From time to time petty bureaucrats (officials) interfere with play in such a way as to limit production.

Players, coaches, officials and fans are all fully involved (employed) and yet output is miniscule.

Any production is met by celebration all out of proportion to its objective value.

Good points all, but "communist" and "metric" turn out to be inextricably linked. The Soviet Union used the metric system, and Cuba, North Korea, Red China and Vietnam still do.

I guess these are just a few more reasons that the United States will continue to ignore this utterly boring and pointless sport.
Followers are slavishly (religiously?) devoted to the system and their own brand of it and resort to violence at any criticism of either.
Therefore american football is communist takes four times as many workers to dothe same job as european(and australasian) workers. ie Rugby.

Real football, the American kind, .


Who plays American football? a few million Americans

Who plays Football?

THE WHOLE GOD FORSAKEN WORLD

face it American football is rugby for the dull

Real football, the American kind, has started with the pre-season NFL games and college isn't far behind. That made me wonder start to wonder about my thoughts on soccer. I used to consider it a metric sport, but now I'm starting to wonder if it isn't a communist sport, instead. For example:

No one understands the rules.

Workers are prohibited from using the tools that would let them be more productive (hands).

From time to time petty bureaucrats (officials) interfere with play in such a way as to limit production.

Players, coaches, officials and fans are all fully involved (employed) and yet output is miniscule.

Any production is met by celebration all out of proportion to its objective value.

Good points all, but "communist" and "metric" turn out to be inextricably linked. The Soviet Union used the metric system, and Cuba, North Korea, Red China and Vietnam still do.

I guess these are just a few more reasons that the United States will continue to ignore this utterly boring and pointless sport.
Followers are slavishly (religiously?) devoted to the system and their own brand of it and resort to violence at any criticism of either.

How did you get to the thought that metric system equals comunism ? ?

It is kindoff strange that the US still uses the old imperial measurements, makes me wodner whether you lot would be happier as a part of the british empire you actually are ;) <mutters something about uppity rebels>

Who plays American football? a few million Americans

Who plays Football?

THE WHOLE GOD FORSAKEN WORLD

face it American football is rugby for the dull

:p Heh, the dull and timid, what with all the body armour they wear...

Who plays American football? a few million Americans

Who plays Football?

THE WHOLE GOD FORSAKEN WORLD

face it American football is rugby for the dull
I think Europe is finally seeing the light. I've been trying to get a Berlin Thunder ballcap for a couple years, but I can never find a store that sells them. I don't usually have a lot of time to spend shopping when I'm in Germany, so any pointers would be appreciated.

...Last time I checked it was one of the most popular sports in the world.

Hopefully this is a joke.

Hopefully this is a joke.
Joke or not, isn't this a nice change from the usual fare?

Maybe soccer is binary, after all? The scores are liberally scattered with 1's and 0's and not much else.

Hopefully this is a joke.
It is. Just not a very good one.

Try again, Myrm.

But, but, but... does that means that Brasil, Argentina, Chile, Germany, Italy, Spain, France and The UK are communists? Well, they do play soccer more than anything else.

Yes, but don't worry, the soccer-playing Commies and the metric-system Commies are bitterly opposed and waste all their energy fighting one another instead of Capitalism and American football.

Yes, but don't worry, the soccer-playing Commies and the metric-system Commies are bitterly opposed and waste all their energy fighting one another instead of Capitalism and American football.
Well, that's a relief.

Does that mean that Rugby and australian football players are freedom fighters who fight for the American football?

Real football, the non-armour wearing, not "only use your foot to kick it for a field goal" kind, has started with the premiership, serie A and la liga beginning. That made me start to wonder about my thoughts on American Football. I used to consider it a crap sport, but now I'm starting to wonder if it isn't a s**t sport, instead. For example:

No one understands the rules.

Random violence is used to distract from the complete lack of skill of the players.

Teams move about the country at will without any loyalty to local fans.

Players, coaches, officials and fans are all fully involved (employed) and yet output is miniscule.

Fans cheer contact between two players as much as a point scored. Football fans cheer the actual goals scored and set plays gained, and not random pointless tackles which have nothing to do with the play of the ball.

I guess these are just a few more reasons that the REST OF THE WORLD will continue to ignore this utterly boring and pointless sport.

Followers are slavishly (religiously?) devoted to the system and their own brand of it and resort to violence at any criticism of either.

;) :)


EDIT: Please take this with a sense of humour as it was meant to be. :)

Well, that's a relief.

Does that mean that Rugby and australian football players are freedom fighters who fight for the American football?

I think they're American football deserters who abandoned their cowardly body armour and now fight for the metric-system Commies.

Real football, the American kind.
American is most definately not the "real" football.
Theres Football, Rugby Football which evolved from Football and then theres American Football which involved from Rugby.

No one understands the rules.
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Ummm... Yes they do.


From time to time petty bureaucrats (officials) interfere with play in such a way as to limit production.

Players, coaches, officials and fans are all fully involved (employed) and yet output is miniscule..
Because American Football is a seamless run of action from start to finish... Unless you count lengthy breaks between each and every play. Long frequent breaks from work sound like a very unionised idea.

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I guess these are just a few more reasons that the United States will continue to ignore this utterly boring and pointless sport.
Followers are slavishly (religiously?) devoted to the system and their own brand of it and resort to violence at any criticism of either.
And instead enjoy 30 second breaks punctuated by 4 second plays.

Whereas Football represents unrestrained capitalism because the hardest workers (the O and D linemen,) are the lowest paid. :D

(oh, and pretty much just us Americans have failed to switch to the metric system. I think we're becoming terribly slow to adapt.)
consarn it, my car gets 20 hogs to the rod, and that's how i likes it!

Whereas Football represents unrestrained capitalism because the hardest workers (the O and D linemen,) are the lowest paid. :D

That's not even remotely true.

:p Heh, the dull and timid, what with all the body armour they wear...

It seems I'm doomed to repeat this until it sinks in:

If you don't wear pads in American football, it doesn't matter who you are. You will not just get hurt, you will die.

:p Heh, the dull and timid, what with all the body armour they wear...
Yes, such a dull and timid sport that at one time Teddy Roosevelt (Who's about as rough and tumble as presidents come) got involved in a push to change rules and force the use of protective equipment.

The National Center for Catastrophic Sports Injury keeps tallies, available onlineand calculates that from 1931 to 2003 there were 993 fatalities directly attributable to football. The game of football was even more dangerous in its early days, before the invention of the forward pass and banning of mass tackles. In 1905 alone there were 18 football fatalities, inspiring President Teddy Roosevelt to convince representatives of Harvard, Princeton and Yale to change the rules and make the game safer. *From http://www.faqfarm.com*

From someone who played football for 7 years (I wasn't very good, still fun though) protective equipement is needed. And that just goes to the highschool level. Considering that Pro and College football players are on average bigger, faster, and stronger than early football players, the sport would be suicidal without pads.

With offense and defense moving at up to 10 meters a second, an impact can carry as much as 9,000 newtons of force. It would be like dropping a 6 kg bowling ball on someone from over 19 meters high.

It seems I'm doomed to repeat this until it sinks in:

If you don't wear pads in American football, it doesn't matter who you are. You will not just get hurt, you will die.

Heh, I know, just going for a cheap shot. Although rugby players do just fine without padding...

Heh, I know, just going for a cheap shot. Although rugby players do just fine without padding...
I think the rugby tends to be slower in collisions and carries less momentum.
Could be wrong though.

I think the rugby tends to be slower in collisions and carries less momentum.
Could be wrong though.
You are right for one simple fact.

Rugby players don't tend to be 500 pounds guy who's sole job is to block another 500 pounds guy. They have to run a bit, so the weight and impact is less severe...

I think the rugby tends to be slower in collisions and carries less momentum.
Could be wrong though.

Yeah, probably, haven't really seen enough American football to compare.

Heh. American 'football'. That's a hoot.

Heh. American 'football'. That's a hoot.
Yeah, football carried by hands and thrown in the air to be caught by hand.
At least, they kept the punt and field goal so it is still foot related somehow....

Yeah, football carried by hands and thrown in the air to be caught by hand.
At least, they kept the punt and field goal so it is still foot related somehow....

Same as rugby, it's short for rugby football.

Wars started over soccer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War) . IT RULES!

Wars started over soccer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War) . IT RULES!
And yet we're the uncivilized ones when it comes to sports....right.

I think the rugby tends to be slower in collisions and carries less momentum.
Could be wrong though.

This is correct. It's the combination of speed and size (most defenders in football have both, while rugby players in the games I've seen tend to have one, the other, or a balance of the two) plus the fact that when a rugby player has to make a tackle, he's frequently already close to the man he's tackling and doesn't have a chance to build up as much momentum before the hit.

Same as rugby, it's short for rugby football.
waddayaknow. You learn something new everyday. :)

Thanks for the info.

waddayaknow. You learn something new everyday. :)

Thanks for the info.

You didn't know? Damnit, I don't give out new info for free!

You didn't know? Damnit, I don't give out new info for free!
Too late!

waddayaknow. You learn something new everyday. :)

Thanks for the info.

Did you know that modern American football was created by Harvard University in Boston and McGill University in Montreal?

Did you know that modern American football was created by Harvard University in Boston and McGill University in Montreal?
Actually, yes. What with living in Montreal an having season tickets to Montreal's team in the Canadian Football who play at the McGill stadium.

But I'm sure some people didn't. ;)

Actually, yes. What with living in Montreal an having season tickets to Montreal's team in the Canadian Football who play at the McGill stadium.

But I'm sure some people didn't. ;)

Thought I'd share our little bit of commonality.

Ahh Soccer is def a form of communism-all that commradery and many teams especailly ManU wearing Red-the colour of the revolution...down with soccer

Ahh Soccer is def a form of communism-all that commradery and many teams especailly ManU wearing Red-the colour of the revolution...down with soccer
Red = Communist?

No wonder the US thinks Canada is a commie haven!

Hang on, I just thought of something... Isn't the US's color blue, white and RED?

Red = Communist?

No wonder the US thinks Canada is a commie haven!

Hang on, I just thought of something... Isn't the US's color blue, white and RED?

And Republican states are red states! OMGCOMMIES!!!!!11one :D

Real football, the American kind, has started with the pre-season NFL games and college isn't far behind. That made me wonder start to wonder about my thoughts on soccer. I used to consider it a metric sport, but now I'm starting to wonder if it isn't a communist sport, instead. For example:

No one understands the rules.

Workers are prohibited from using the tools that would let them be more productive (hands).

From time to time petty bureaucrats (officials) interfere with play in such a way as to limit production.

Players, coaches, officials and fans are all fully involved (employed) and yet output is miniscule.

Any production is met by celebration all out of proportion to its objective value.

Good points all, but "communist" and "metric" turn out to be inextricably linked. The Soviet Union used the metric system, and Cuba, North Korea, Red China and Vietnam still do.

I guess these are just a few more reasons that the United States will continue to ignore this utterly boring and pointless sport.
Followers are slavishly (religiously?) devoted to the system and their own brand of it and resort to violence at any criticism of either.

How can 'real football' be the one that isn't played with the 'feet'?

"Communist" and "Metric" are inextricable linked.... this is a troll-thread, right?

Or are you seriously claiming that the UK and France are communist nations?

Good points all, but "communist" and "metric" turn out to be inextricably linked. The Soviet Union used the metric system, and Cuba, North Korea, Red China and Vietnam still do.
So do dozens of countries that are not communist at all!

So do dozens of countries that are not communist at all!

Dozens?

Try every country that isn't the USA. OMG! COMMUNIST CONSPIRACY!!!!!1111

Dang, sounds communist to me!

.....
From someone who played football for 7 years (I wasn't very good, still fun though) protective equipement is needed. And that just goes to the highschool level. Considering that Pro and College football players are on average bigger, faster, and stronger than early football players, the sport would be suicidal without pads.

...
I played rugby 7's with some american engineers in the Uk a few years ago. These were all guys who had played a lot of "college football" and they were looking forward to the games.....at first.

after a while they quit 'cos it was too rough. No-one was killed but minor injuries are constant. This, mind you, was 7's which is considered a running game and a bit soft by "real" rugby players.

However I've watch some of those college games and they are more fun than the big league stuff. They pass the ball and run a lot more (it's more like rugby to my eyes) and the breaks are shorter.

But you still need to grow up and become metric like the rest of us. You know you want to. :p

But you still need to grow up and become metric like the rest of us. You know you want to. :p
Like I've said before, there's no quarter-pounder in metric McDonalds. You can't convince me that a Royale is just as good.

Besides, we pay less for a gallon of gas than you do for a liter. I'm sure that the smaller package for a liter is somehow to blame.

But this was about metric/communist soccer. So, I'll change the subject again. What do you Europeans call the the game that the European NFL plays. And where do I have to go to get a Berlin Thunder ball cap next time I'm in Germany?

Ummm... Yes they do. [understand the rules]


"So when the French Mustard is between the teriyaki sauce and the sea salt it's offside?"

- Bend It Like Beckham

What do you Europeans call the the game that the European NFL plays.

It's called "Gridiron" in Australia.

What do you Europeans call the the game that the European NFL plays
I call it boring. But as it is with all sports and me, I go and watch it (Not like all sports here, cos there's only like the boyfriends and the parents of the players watching... and me. American footie not a big thing here) for the blood. I go and hope to see injuries. I'm honest here. Why else? I go see car 'sports' to see crashes,-->American football to see those silly twats get concussions. They fucking stand there for 46 minutes doing nothing, looking silly in their tight pants (I sit the same time watching, paying for the fun), and then they ram eachother head first. The least I can get out of it is somebody suffering a concussion, right?

I played rugby 7's with some american engineers in the Uk a few years ago. These were all guys who had played a lot of "college football" and they were looking forward to the games.....at first.

I think it's fairly safe to say that if they were engineers, they weren't actual college football players.

I think it's fairly safe to say that if they were engineers, they weren't actual college football players.
We used to play rugby when I was in flight school at Pensacola. The worst I have ever hurt was when I tackled a fellow that used to be a halfback on the Naval Academy football team. I went in low and got a knee to my head. I never lost consciousness, but I'm not sure why. I think all the pads are there for a good reason -- longevity.

Like I've said before, there's no quarter-pounder in metric McDonalds. You can't convince me that a Royale is just as good.

Besides, we pay less for a gallon of gas than you do for a liter. I'm sure that the smaller package for a liter is somehow to blame.

But this was about metric/communist soccer. So, I'll change the subject again. What do you Europeans call the the game that the European NFL plays. And where do I have to go to get a Berlin Thunder ball cap next time I'm in Germany?
American Football? Fuck knows, hardly anyone here gives a damn, thankfully.

'Soccer'... *growl*

Real football, the American kind, has started with the pre-season NFL games and college isn't far behind. That made me wonder start to wonder about my thoughts on soccer. I used to consider it a metric sport, but now I'm starting to wonder if it isn't a communist sport, instead. For example:

No one understands the rules.

Workers are prohibited from using the tools that would let them be more productive (hands).

From time to time petty bureaucrats (officials) interfere with play in such a way as to limit production.

Players, coaches, officials and fans are all fully involved (employed) and yet output is miniscule.

Any production is met by celebration all out of proportion to its objective value.

Good points all, but "communist" and "metric" turn out to be inextricably linked. The Soviet Union used the metric system, and Cuba, North Korea, Red China and Vietnam still do.

I guess these are just a few more reasons that the United States will continue to ignore this utterly boring and pointless sport.
Followers are slavishly (religiously?) devoted to the system and their own brand of it and resort to violence at any criticism of either.

I subscribe to the view that every opinion deserves a voice and that arguments from different viewpoints can both be valid etc etc etc.

But, I have to differ from this on this one. This is possibly the biggest load of (excuse language) bullsh|t I've read on here in ages. Award-winning quality bull in fact.

I've never watched anything more dull than American Football. In terms of activity:pointless lounging around it's 1:10.

As a Swede, I know little about Rugby. But I've seen it played a few times in the UK, and even though I don't claim to fully understand it, it's 100 times more active and interesting than American football, which seems to be a very highly watered down version of this game (with body armour despite the fact that nothing happens....).

It's interesting to note that proper football ("soccer") is becoming more popular with America's youth and that USA is finally becoming able to hold its own on the world football stage. I'm guessing that this trend will continue as this becomes at least one area where the USA opens up towards the rest of the world (psst, there's actually other countries - hard to believe I know).

We used to play rugby when I was in flight school at Pensacola. The worst I have ever hurt was when I tackled a fellow that used to be a halfback on the Naval Academy football team. I went in low and got a knee to my head. I never lost consciousness, but I'm not sure why. I think all the pads are there for a good reason -- longevity.

If you managed to get a knee to the head in the middle of a tackle you probably did it wrong.

I think all the pads are there for a good reason -- longevity.

That's what I've been saying this whole thread. :)

Like I've said before, there's no quarter-pounder in metric McDonalds. You can't convince me that a Royale is just as good.

Yes there is; we use the metric system and we still have the quarter-pounder. Ha! :p

I wouldnt hate American 'Football' half as much if it had a different name...Football - Uses the foot primarily. Basketball - Score in a basket. Netball - Score in a net. Baseball...erm well I dont know but it has all the bases so that works too...

But American 'Football' from what I've seen barely uses the foot, why not call it Americaball or something else ball clenchingly patriotic.

And I was wrong at the start of the post actually...I'd still hate it just as much with a different name

what I really don't understand is how a sport can be considetered metric. And what the metric system has to do with communism although we have already been though that.

Like I've said before, there's no quarter-pounder in metric McDonalds. You can't convince me that a Royale is just as good.

Besides, we pay less for a gallon of gas than you do for a liter. I'm sure that the smaller package for a liter is somehow to blame.

But this was about metric/communist soccer. So, I'll change the subject again. What do you Europeans call the the game that the European NFL plays.Well, surprisingly we call it american football. And where do I have to go to get a Berlin Thunder ball cap next time I'm in Germany?
Take a look here (http://www.berlin-thunder.de/merchandise.asp)

I think Europe is finally seeing the light. I've been trying to get a Berlin Thunder ballcap for a couple years, but I can never find a store that sells them. I don't usually have a lot of time to spend shopping when I'm in Germany, so any pointers would be appreciated.

http://www.berlin-thunder.de/merchandise.asp

Mo-Fr 10:00-18:00

Tel.: 011-49-30-300-64-400 (already includig prefix from US to Germany)

Just give them a call - there should be someone who speaks English and can answer your questions.

@ Myidealstate: Good call - I didn't read through the whole post... :D

If you managed to get a knee to the head in the middle of a tackle you probably did it wrong.
Undoubtedly. None of us even played in college. We just used it as an excuse to drink afterwards.

http://www.berlin-thunder.de/merchandise.asp

Mo-Fr 10:00-18:00

Tel.: 011-49-30-300-64-400 (already includig prefix from US to Germany)

Just give them a call - there should be someone who speaks English and can answer your questions.

@ Myidealstate: Good call - I didn't read through the whole post... :D
Thanks. I was looking for a general merchandise store that I could visit next time I was in Germany. But I don't know when my next trip will be, so this looks like a good way to get one.

Metric>Imperial
Football<American Football<Rugby

Rugby is the best of both worlds, fast paced and hard hitting. But do they have to be so damn long? Same with football. I don't see a lot of rugby here in the states, but when I do I get all excited, the All-Blacks are playing in some Tri-Nation match and 3/4 of the way through the first half South Africa is kickin their ass and I'm begging for halftime. But, you know thats how it goes.

I'm just glad science classes use metric instead of imperial. I can't even convert cups, pints, ounces, and gallons. But I can tell you off the top of my head 1 cubic centimeter = a milliliter and 1000 liters = a kiloliter etc. Much easier.

Metric? Communist?

Nah-h-h, it's Absurdist.

Metric>Imperial
Football<American Football<Rugby

Rugby is the best of both worlds, fast paced and hard hitting. But do they have to be so damn long? Same with football. I don't see a lot of rugby here in the states, but when I do I get all excited, the All-Blacks are playing in some Tri-Nation match and 3/4 of the way through the first half South Africa is kickin their ass and I'm begging for halftime. But, you know thats how it goes.

I'm just glad science classes use metric instead of imperial. I can't even convert cups, pints, ounces, and gallons. But I can tell you off the top of my head 1 cubic centimeter = a milliliter and 1000 liters = a kiloliter etc. Much easier.

If you think its too long maybe you should try watching a few rugby sevens matches. They're only 15 minutes long but i dont know how easy they would be to see on TV in the US.

If you think its too long maybe you should try watching a few rugby sevens matches. They're only 15 minutes long but i dont know how easy they would be to see on TV in the US.

Hell yeah, I'm not that into sports really but sevens is so short there's no way to get bored. I don't live in the US but I imagine with the huge number of channels they have there's a chance the sevens tournaments get played.

Hell yeah, I'm not that into sports really but sevens is so short there's no way to get bored. I don't live in the US but I imagine with the huge number of channels they have there's a chance the sevens tournaments get played.
I saw that a few years back at a sports bar - it was great! Like football, but way better! Go Rugby!

Metric? Communist?

Nah-h-h, it's Absurdist.
So this makes sense:

1 inch
1 foot = 12 inch
1 yard = 3 feet = 36 inches
1 rod, pole or perch = 5½ yards = 16½ feet
1 chain = 4 poles = 22 yards = 66 feet
1 furlong = 10 chains = 220 yards = 660 feet
1 mile = 8 furlongs = 1760 yards = 5280 feet
1 league = 3 miles = 5280 yards = 15840 feet

while this is absurd:

Prefix--------decimal equivalent------exponential equivalent

Pico--------0.000000000001--------10-12

Nano---------0.000000001----------10-9

Micro ---------0.000001------------10-6

Milli-------------0.001--------------10-3

Centi------------0.01---------------10-2

Deci-------------0.1------------------10-1

no prefix---------1.0--------------------100

Deka------------10.0-----------------101

Hecto-----------100.0----------------102

Kilo-------------1000.0---------------103

Mega---------1,000,000.--------------106

Giga--------1,000,000,000.------------109


with the same basic method used for mass, dimension, volume, time, area, length etc.

Oh, and real football pwns that american s***.

soccer f***ing rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go Manchester United!!!!!!!!!!!!

So this makes sense:

*snips*

Oh, and real football pwns that american s***.

No, Rugby pwns football. real Football isn't nearly as much fun as reading about real Football riots the next day. :D

And as for the measurements, yeah none of it makes sense. What works better is:

No stuff.
Some Stuff.
Stuff.
A lotta stuff.
A shitloada stuff.

Real far.
Pretty far.
Far.
Not so far.
There.

Freezing cold
Kinda cold
Normal
Sorta hot
Goddamn hot


It just cuts to the chase, you know?

Hell yeah, I'm not that into sports really but sevens is so short there's no way to get bored. I don't live in the US but I imagine with the huge number of channels they have there's a chance the sevens tournaments get played.

The only way would probably to order it on Pay-Per-View but i think they are kind of expensive. Well, more than I'd want to pay.