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Well, are you?

Well, are you?


I'm here...

hi Spoffin!

Doubtful you know me, glad to see you're still around.

Hey Spoffin!

Well, are you?

short answer: no

I'm here...
So you are. Though I don't think you were when I left.

*gives Neut a big welcome back hug* :D

hi Spoffin!
Doubtful you know me, glad to see you're still around.
Hey Spoffin!

Hi, hey, hello. How've you all been doing?

I am... dunno if we ever talked though, but I remember seeing your threads?

surely the question is "is there anyone i LIKE still here?"

whatcha been up to?

Hi, hey, hello. How've you all been doing?
Keeping PBC alive...

and trying to lighten up some of the threads here... Failing miserably on that one tho. :(

Nice to see ya in General. ;)

surely the question is "is there anyone i LIKE still here?"

whatcha been up to?
I've been on Fools Paradise mainly, with a bunch of other ex-NS members. And then in real life I passed some exams and got accepted to university. And I've been working on this book thing for a bit.

I am... dunno if we ever talked though, but I remember seeing your threads?
Yeah, I think I remember some of yours too. How's it going?

and trying to lighten up some of the threads here... Failing miserably on that one tho. :(
Well there's really only so much fun you can bring to the 485th "Creationism vs Evolution" or "Abortion: Is it wrong?" party.

Not sure if you remember me, but I do remember you.

Not sure if you remember me, but I do remember you.
Ditto.

Not sure if you remember me, but I do remember you.
A preponderance of mods and ex-mods who remember me. Not sure that's a good thing

You were... ADN? RLA? You led a defence mission one time?
Am I warm here?

bump

Get a bit confused with the title of the thread, Spoffin?

Hello, Spoffin. I'm glad to see you back.

Me! Me! :p

Spoffy!

Get a bit confused with the title of the thread, Spoffin?
Don't think so. I am talking past tense, about people I knew from a while ago.

Hello, Spoffin. I'm glad to see you back.
Heya! How goes the struggle against capitalism?

Me! Me! :p
Spoffy!
SUch enthusiasm, I hardly feel I warrent it.

Ah, who am I kidding, of course I do!

How's it going guys?

SUch enthusiasm, I hardly feel I warrent it.

Ah, who am I kidding, of course I do!

How's it going guys?

Nothing much. I quit, and I returned. I'm moving to London next month! :D

Don't think so. I am talking past tense, about people I knew from a while ago.
Read it again.

But anyway, welcome back. :fluffle:

Nothing much. I quit, and I returned. I'm moving to London next month! :D
Hey, me too!

Admittedly I think you're moving a bit further...

A preponderance of mods and ex-mods who remember me. Not sure that's a good thing

You were... ADN? RLA? You led a defence mission one time?
Am I warm here?

I was actually in the ADN for a bit. Participated in one invasion (defending from it), but that's about it.

I totally remember you, but I don't think you'd remember me beyond my (lack of a) name.

I totally remember you, but I don't think you'd remember me beyond my (lack of a) name.
No, I remember you. The name does help though, it is definately one of the more distinctive ones.

Whatcha been up to?

No, I remember you. The name does help though, it is definately one of the more distinctive ones.

Whatcha been up to?
I graduated, but my life hasn't changed much at all. The posters they sold in my childhood lied, it seems. They implied that I could redeem my college degree for garage's full of Ferraris, Porsches, Mercedes, and Lamborghinis and chicks in bikinis who for some reason are in heels.

Stupid posters. Who knew they could lie? I bet that cat freakin' loves Mondays...

Yeah, I think I remember some of yours too. How's it going?

Pretty good, I've stopped RPing though. I'd like get back into it but... meh... lack the effort.

I graduated, but my life hasn't changed much at all. The posters they sold in my childhood lied, it seems. They implied that I could redeem my college degree for garage's full of Ferraris, Porsches, Mercedes, and Lamborghinis and chicks in bikinis who for some reason are in heels.

Stupid posters. Who knew they could lie? I bet that cat freakin' loves Mondays...
You know I'd never thought about that

Why are they wearing heels? That can't be practical for swimming.

I graduated, but my life hasn't changed much at all. The posters they sold in my childhood lied, it seems. They implied that I could redeem my college degree for garage's full of Ferraris, Porsches, Mercedes, and Lamborghinis and chicks in bikinis who for some reason are in heels.

Stupid posters. Who knew they could lie? I bet that cat freakin' loves Mondays...
At least the poster you saw was only for a college degree. I knew a friend who was of the highly suggestable type, and the first poster he saw was for the French Foreign Legion.

Let me tell you, that one did not go smoothly.

You know I'd never thought about that

Why are they wearing heels? That can't be practical for swimming.
This brings to mind a marketing idea-the flipper heel...

This might be a tough sell...

At least the poster you saw was only for a college degree. I knew a friend who was of the highly suggestable type, and the first poster he saw was for the French Foreign Legion.

Let me tell you, that one did not go smoothly.
Did he at least get one of those stylin' hats? In junior high that was all the rage. Stupid eighties...

This brings to mind a marketing idea-the flipper heel...

This might be a tough sell...
Okay, I think you should stay out of marketing if you think that an advert containing the two elements of a ) sexy girls in heels and b ) swimming is gonna be a tough sell.

Hi, hey, hello. How've you all been doing?

Good, good. Turns out plotting the conquest of the world is a bit more difficult than I thought. *Sighs*Don't suppose you can donate $500 billion, and a few muffins?

Hi, Spoffin. Very good to see you back on the boards.

The answer to your question depends on whether you know me.

Because I know you.

I know you. Do you know me? :p

nope dont know you but there is time come over smoke some and be happy lol

senserly the ruler of Whtika

Holy Crap!

Spoffin....

I thought you were dead....

Well, are you?

*munches on a taco* Am I what?

*posts*

I know you, Spoffin, but I doubt you know me.

Hey man. I'm sure you remember me.

I'm still ADN, no longer a mod. You can always find me in #nationstates_technical on irc.esper.net, as usual.

Well, are you?
Word to the Spoff-meister.

The answer to your question depends on whether you know me.

Because I know you.
I'm not sure... I do know that Amerigo is a land of contrast.


Yeah, I definately remember you

Well, are you?
I totally remember you from back in the day... I had a different country though... Madesonia... I doubt you remember... I was a professional lurker.

Holy Crap!

Spoffin....

I thought you were dead....
No! The body that you dumped overboard was just a sack of old meat products wrapped in clothes I stole from a charity store!

I remember you. Oh yes. I remember you very... well indeed.

Hey man. I'm sure you remember me.

I'm still ADN, no longer a mod. You can always find me in #nationstates_technical on irc.esper.net, as usual.
Heya, I saw you on a video that Tink posted on FP. How've you been?

Word to the Spoff-meister.
Heya Bottle, how've you been?

*munches on a taco* Am I what?
Still causing mayhem?

I remember you. Oh yes. I remember you very... well indeed.
I'm hoping the menacing tone to that post is just in my imagination.

I'm not here anymore. I left about two months ago.

I'm not here anymore. I left about two months ago.
*gasps*

Your postcount... its huge!

*gasps*

Your postcount... its huge!
It's not THAT huge...meh...

Heya, I saw you on a video that Tink posted on FP. How've you been?
OK. Was away Jan - June, but now I'm back. :D

*posts*

YAY!

How're you SC?

So you are. Though I don't think you were when I left.

*gives Neut a big welcome back hug* :D
You must the guy that that one fellow had that one nation "spoffinisanazi" named after awhile back. Weird fellow he was.

You must the guy that that one fellow had that one nation "spoffinisanazi" named after awhile back. Weird fellow he was.


But Spoffin IS a nazi..


Aren't you spoff.

I do. And I am still around.

YAY!

How're you SC?
Hiya Neut.... I am great thanks for asking and it is nice to see you are still around occasionally too *hugs*

Hiya Neut.... I am great thanks for asking and it is nice to see you are still around occasionally too *hugs*

Whatcha been up to?

Hey Spoff, I'm still here. :D

Hey Spoff, I'm still here. :D

Lies!

Can the ancients post more. I can't stand talking or listening to some of the newbies. :rolleyes:

Can the ancients post more. I can't stand talking or listening to some of the newbies. :rolleyes:

Also Lies!

*posts*

:)

*posts*

:)

See? At least it's humourous.

*posts*

:)

+1

+1

Arf! Long time since I've seen a counting thread :D

Arf! Long time since I've seen a counting thread :D

Eh, it'll probably get this thread shut down for being spam...damn mods dont know how to have fun anymore...

Remember when the mods instigated the spam threads in their off-time?

Whatcha been up to?

Well I have been working my tail off lately... trying to figure out the tangled web that is immigration ( wanting to marry my finacee and keep him...silly me for wanting to do it legally) in the meantime though he will be here for the holidays, Nov through January... you do remember Hans dont you? Yeah still with him... we have been together for 2 and a half years now... how are things with you?

yo... dunno when you left but i sure recognise your name... so dunno if you know me or not. probably not. bah!

Well, are you?

Can't escape this place eh? :D

Lies!
You're a lie.

Well I have been working my tail off lately... trying to figure out the tangled web that is immigration ( wanting to marry my finacee and keep him...silly me for wanting to do it legally) in the meantime though he will be here for the holidays, Nov through January... you do remember Hans dont you? Yeah still with him... we have been together for 2 and a half years now... how are things with you?

Congrats. I got married...and divorced...have a new girl I've been talking to for a while now, but we're both pretty busy and I work an odd schedule, so it can make for a rough time. I'm still in the AF - was going to get out early but they decided to promote me to Staff Sgt...so, I figured that if they're gonna gimme a stripe, I might as well take it, right?

Thinking about purchasing a bike since a couple of my good friends here ride and I cant hardly afford $75+ a week in gas for the truck...Not that my ex-wife or the girl I'm talking with now want me to get one...lol

That's bout it...everything else is pretty much the same...

Dunno if you knew me, but I definitely noticed you... you and Bottle and Lunatic Goofballs are the eternals for me.

Still causing mayhem?

I'm not convinced I'm the cause. Just because it always happens when I'm around... well, it could be coincidence. :)

Congrats. I got married...and divorced...have a new girl I've been talking to for a while now, but we're both pretty busy and I work an odd schedule, so it can make for a rough time. I'm still in the AF - was going to get out early but they decided to promote me to Staff Sgt...so, I figured that if they're gonna gimme a stripe, I might as well take it, right?

Thinking about purchasing a bike since a couple of my good friends here ride and I cant hardly afford $75+ a week in gas for the truck...Not that my ex-wife or the girl I'm talking with now want me to get one...lol

That's bout it...everything else is pretty much the same...

Yeah gas prices are hellish.. which makes me very glad my jobs are like very close... one is in my home and the other is like 1 door down from my apartment..lol but I still end up putting in like 12 hr days with both jobs... Wow it sounds like you have been a busy boy..lol Take it slow with your love life and be careful in the forces sweet... both can get ya killed... *laughs* and as for the motorcycle thing... well I can see how having one would be fun but all to often I have seen people get hurt on them so if you must ride dont let your testosterone get the best of ya... *grins* I am glad to see you are still kickin! And dont be afraid to TM and stuff :D

Yeah gas prices are hellish.. which makes me very glad my jobs are like very close... one is in my home and the other is like 1 door down from my apartment..lol but I still end up putting in like 12 hr days with both jobs... Wow it sounds like you have been a busy boy..lol Take it slow with your love life and be careful in the forces sweet... both can get ya killed... *laughs* and as for the motorcycle thing... well I can see how having one would be fun but all to often I have seen people get hurt on them so if you must ride dont let your testosterone get the best of ya... *grins* I am glad to see you are still kickin! And dont be afraid to TM and stuff :D

Hey now...not like I'm some angsty teen looking to find an edge on picking up girls...(in reality, I have to beat em away with sticks already...lol)

Check out this thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440599

Can the ancients post more. I can't stand talking or listening to some of the newbies. :rolleyes:
Well that's why we all left in the first place. I only came back for cult starting purposes.

Why don't you come to Fools Paradise instead?

I'm not convinced I'm the cause. Just because it always happens when I'm around... well, it could be coincidence. :)
Yeah. Like how Bush thinks about global warming.

Dunno if you knew me, but I definitely noticed you... you and Bottle and Lunatic Goofballs are the eternals for me.
Heya, of course I remember you!

Can the ancients post more. I can't stand talking or listening to some of the newbies. :rolleyes:I feel a little odd intruding into you little 03 jamboree, but could someone clarify how a poster's join date has a direct proportionality to the value of their posts? Your elitism is pretty fucked up, if you ask me.

Yeah gas prices are hellish.. which makes me very glad my jobs are like very close... one is in my home and the other is like 1 door down from my apartment..lol but I still end up putting in like 12 hr days with both jobs... Wow it sounds like you have been a busy boy..lol Take it slow with your love life and be careful in the forces sweet... both can get ya killed... *laughs* and as for the motorcycle thing... well I can see how having one would be fun but all to often I have seen people get hurt on them so if you must ride dont let your testosterone get the best of ya... *grins* I am glad to see you are still kickin! And dont be afraid to TM and stuff :D
I can't fathom why it is that Americans are always complaining about petrol prices. High over here is we pay £1 on the litre, and for you its paying $2 on the gallon.

I feel a little odd intruding into you little 03 jamboree, but could someone clarify how a poster's join date has a direct proportionality to the value of their posts? Your elitism is pretty fucked up, if you ask me.

Eh, it's just that every old timer knew every other old timer...so it was a completely different feel in General. There wasnt any of this serious crap...it was all spamorific and general good times... It's not that we're elitists...it's just that most of the newbies never experienced the old General and thus dont know how to react to some good-natured (or ill-natured) fun had in General...

I feel a little odd intruding into you little 03 jamboree, but could someone clarify how a poster's join date has a direct proportionality to the value of their posts? Your elitism is pretty fucked up, if you ask me.
Basicly, golden era of NS: August 2003. Everyone knew everyone else, the server was up... maybe 75% of the time, but still. 2,000 posts was enough to mark you out as a fairly major poster, there was the volcano club, only a very tiny majority of threads resulted in someone being called a troll and they almost always deserved it (unlike how it got later on, jesus), there were at any given time at least a half dozen threads that weren't about Bush, Creationism, abortion or Iraq, and the worst mod oppression was handed down by Neut for gods sakes. Simply put, it was a really wicked time to be here, and people who remember it remember it very fondly, and now a decent sized percentage of us can't stand the fucking place. You've gotta understand that we basicly built the General forum our way that long summer, and a lot of us are all pretty sad that it couldn't stay the way it was. I don't have anything against the new NS, except that it's really not my bag anymore.

Now not to be a **** or anything, but you're the first person here who really made a big deal about whole 03/04 split, and in a pretty bloody bitchy way to be sure. I only came back here to see if I could find some old friends, not as a snub to you or a personal attack on your join date. So if you could maybe try adopt the ostrich position to threads that annoy you rather than trying to tear a new one into anyone who'll give you the time to do it, that'd be real sweet of you.

Basicly, golden era of NS: August 2003. Everyone knew everyone else, the server was up... maybe 75% of the time, but still. 2,000 posts was enough to mark you out as a fairly major poster, there was the volcano club, only a very tiny majority of threads resulted in someone being called a troll and they almost always deserved it (unlike how it got later on, jesus), there were at any given time at least a half dozen threads that weren't about Bush, Creationism, abortion or Iraq, and the worst mod oppression was handed down by Neut for gods sakes. Simply put, it was a really wicked time to be here, and people who remember it remember it very fondly, and now a decent sized percentage of us can't stand the fucking place. You've gotta understand that we basicly built the General forum our way that long summer, and a lot of us are all pretty sad that it couldn't stay the way it was. I don't have anything against the new NS, except that it's really not my bag anymore.

Now not to be a **** or anything, but you're the first person here who really made a big deal about whole 03/04 split, and in a pretty bloody bitchy way to be sure. I only came back here to see if I could find some old friends, not as a snub to you or a personal attack on your join date. So if you could maybe try adopt the ostrich position to threads that annoy you rather than trying to tear a new one into anyone who'll give you the time to do it, that'd be real sweet of you.

I remember you.

Eh, it's just that every old timer knew every other old timer...so it was a completely different feel in General. There wasnt any of this serious crap...it was all spamorific and general good times... It's not that we're elitists...it's just that most of the newbies never experienced the old General and thus dont know how to react to some good-natured (or ill-natured) fun had in General...
That's exactly it. Like back then, even if you didn't agree with someone about their politics or what have you, you still talked to them. You'd have as much fun with the nazis as the people who agreed with you, and even when it turned nasty it wasn't evil.

I remember you.
*beams*

Now not to be a **** or anything, but you're the first person here who really made a big deal about whole 03/04 split, and in a pretty bloody bitchy way to be sure. I only came back here to see if I could find some old friends, not as a snub to you or a personal attack on your join date. So if you could maybe try adopt the ostrich position to threads that annoy you rather than trying to tear a new one into anyone who'll give you the time to do it, that'd be real sweet of you.

And this is where the forums went to hell...people like this guy that cant just ENJOY A THREAD or simply ignore one that he doesnt agree with.

I agree with ya on the first paragraph, Spoffin. Even the Nazis and Anti-Nazis were still able to bullshit and laugh with each other on the joke / spam threads. Nowadays, even the damn joke threads turn into fucking debates. I mean...c'mon...what happened to having fun? When did General get so goddamn serious?

*beams*

No, you were funny though. I remember your posts as highly opinionated, but always well written and provocative. Also, you never took yourself too seriously, so a good time could be had by all. Of course, I was more of a lurker in those days, and you pretty much vanished at the time I started to post, but I am glad to see you back. General needs people like you.

And this is where the forums went to hell...people like this guy that cant just ENJOY A THREAD or simply ignore one that he doesnt agree with.

I agree with ya on the first paragraph, Spoffin. Even the Nazis and Anti-Nazis were still able to bullshit and laugh with each other on the joke / spam threads. Nowadays, even the damn joke threads turn into fucking debates. I mean...c'mon...what happened to having fun? When did General get so goddamn serious?
I put it down to the time when Eridanus changed his sig from that freaky Ozzy Osbourne pic. But that's just me.

I think maybe actually it was while the servers were dodgy, but not quite down all the time. I think when you get so pissed off at 5 minute page loading times, that has to reflect in the anger of your posts. Also chat and socialising becomes impossible when its running like that, whereas with debate you can just post, leave for a bit, let someone respond, flame them for their dumbass ideas, leave for a bit, etc etc

I put it down to the time when Eridanus changed his sig from that freaky Ozzy Osbourne pic. But that's just me.

I think maybe actually it was while the servers were dodgy, but not quite down all the time. I think when you get so pissed off at 5 minute page loading times, that has to reflect in the anger of your posts. Also chat and socialising becomes impossible when its running like that, whereas with debate you can just post, leave for a bit, let someone respond, flame them for their dumbass ideas, leave for a bit, etc etc

I think a lot of it has to do with the Mod curtailing all the spam...that was what made General General...now people dont know how to spam in General anymore - and the few that do are afraid of getting in trouble or having a thread shut down for it...

I think a lot of it has to do with the Mod curtailing all the spam...that was what made General General...now people dont know how to spam in General anymore - and the few that do are afraid of getting in trouble or having a thread shut down for it...
Yeah, I'd forgotten about that. It was another server-related thing, wasn't it? I mean, some of the spam was truly out of control, but without it, yeah, I think everyone just got a bit... whatever

Now not to be a **** or anything, but you're the first person here who really made a big deal about whole 03/04 split, and in a pretty bloody bitchy way to be sure. I only came back here to see if I could find some old friends, not as a snub to you or a personal attack on your join date. So if you could maybe try adopt the ostrich position to threads that annoy you rather than trying to tear a new one into anyone who'll give you the time to do it, that'd be real sweet of you.I wasn't trying to be rude; sorry if it came across that way. I appreciate the explanations though, because up to now I frankly haven't understood the difference between how general used to be and how it is now. I always assumed it was primarily a political forum. Anyway, I didn't mean to be bitchy. Cheers to you and the rest of the old-timers....for the most part, I like reading y'alls nostalgia (and other posts).

I wasn't trying to be rude; sorry if it came across that way. I appreciate the explanations though, because up to now I frankly haven't understood the difference between how general used to be and how it is now. I always assumed it was primarily a political forum. Anyway, I didn't mean to be bitchy. Cheers to you and the rest of the old-timers....for the most part, I like reading y'alls nostalgia (and other posts).

General used to be the only non-political or RP forum around...now that's all that's left...it sucks...

General used to be the only non-political or RP forum around...now that's all that's left...it sucks...But....there's still lots of non-political stuff, which is not only fun, but more interesting than spammy pyramids. I don't think it sucks at all! but then again, its been more or less this way since I joined. How are +1 threads preferable to the mix there is now?

But....there's still lots of non-political stuff, which is not only fun, but more interesting than spammy pyramids. I don't think it sucks at all! but then again, its been more or less this way since I joined. How are +1 threads preferable to the mix there is now?

They wound up being much more fun than the stuff that goes on now. It's rare to find a thread nowadays that's just pure fun...most of them develop into some kind of debate or discussion or something...

I wasn't trying to be rude; sorry if it came across that way. I appreciate the explanations though, because up to now I frankly haven't understood the difference between how general used to be and how it is now. I always assumed it was primarily a political forum. Anyway, I didn't mean to be bitchy. Cheers to you and the rest of the old-timers....for the most part, I like reading y'alls nostalgia (and other posts).
That's alright, its not easy to understand if you don't know. Its also worth mentioning that there has always been a join date or postcount based discrimination, its just that where the line for that is keeps moving. General did always have some political threads, but I remember it being more or less a 50-50 split, politics on one side, then chat, spam, non-political discussions and stuff on the other.


I'll tell you what I'm remembering now, I'm remembering the names that Generalites used to get called by the RPers. I remember the forum being referred to as the Cesspool of NationStates, and I remember having to yell at the mods from the NS and II forums cos they kept moving OMG!!shift1!! threads into General. "General is not your trashcan!"

That's alright, its not easy to understand if you don't know. Its also worth mentioning that there has always been a join date or postcount based discrimination, its just that where the line for that is keeps moving. General did always have some political threads, but I remember it being more or less a 50-50 split, politics on one side, then chat, spam, non-political discussions and stuff on the other.


I'll tell you what I'm remembering now, I'm remembering the names that Generalites used to get called by the RPers. I remember the forum being referred to as the Cesspool of NationStates, and I remember having to yell at the mods from the NS and II forums cos they kept moving OMG!!shift1!! threads into General. "General is not your trashcan!"

But...because it was the trashcan, that's what made it so much fun...

I have very fond memories of summer/autumn 2003. Those were the best days of General. :(

The spam had to go however, and at the time it was only the nubs that were posting it. But it seemed as though as soon as the crackdown on spam began, all the serious people started getting into it. And once the general forum royalty and the spammers merged into one community, it was obvious what would happen, they suffered for it, and ended up leaving in droves. This was personally frustrating for me, because a lot of people with whom I chatted so long in all those social threads, started doing stuff which I detested, and got warned, deleted, banned, etc. One time I left for a week and came back to find a friend's nation dead, and asked her WTF, and she said she went on a flaming rampage because she was bored and wanted some fun.

Not surprisingly, I lost a lot of friends, being on the anti-spam side, but what can you do when confronted with that attitude? When one day people are content to chat in a hug store and go to an RP ball, and then they're postwhoring and spamming porn.

I think the community burned itself out from the inside, it wasn't destroyed the way some people think. Such a shame. But it was great fun while it lasted. :(

Here is a serious question: What is it like being an ex-mod? Do you feel blinded, or do you get secret info from the current mods?

And what do you do about players you know have puppets &ct. in general.

But....there's still lots of non-political stuff, which is not only fun, but more interesting than spammy pyramids. I don't think it sucks at all! but then again, its been more or less this way since I joined. How are +1 threads preferable to the mix there is now?
It's hard to explain, or even think about it. Its like, its not about the spam, but what comes between the spam. Its about personalities of the people. Like there's the person who'll posts "+1" and then the person who'll *streaks the thread*, and then the person who *films it*, and there's something about that that just... I dunno, it really is hard to explain. Its the atmosphere, or something. Like at a party, imagine if the only people there were the ones who did something. The person who you get off with, the person who throws up on the stairs and the person who moons through the upstairs window are all there, but no-one else it. It wouldn't really work right, would it? Its about the people who stand off to the side a bit as well, just drinking and rocking out to the music or whatever. Its kindof like that.

But...because it was the trashcan, that's what made it so much fun...
Yeah, but it was fun to yell at the RPers too.

I have very fond memories of summer/autumn 2003. Those were the best days of General. :(

The spam had to go however, and at the time it was only the nubs that were posting it. But it seemed as though as soon as the crackdown on spam began, all the serious people started getting into it. And once the general forum royalty and the spammers merged into one community, it was obvious what would happen, they suffered for it, and ended up leaving in droves. This was personally frustrating for me, because a lot of people with whom I chatted so long in all those social threads, started doing stuff which I detested, and got warned, deleted, banned, etc. One time I left for a week and came back to find a friend's nation dead, and asked her WTF, and she said she went on a flaming rampage because she was bored and wanted some fun.

Not surprisingly, I lost a lot of friends, being on the anti-spam side, but what can you do when confronted with that attitude? When one day people are content to chat in a hug store and go to an RP ball, and then they're postwhoring and spamming porn.

I think the community burned itself out from the inside, it wasn't destroyed the way some people think. Such a shame. But it was great fun while it lasted. :(
I think everything sorta went wrong together. I mean, obviously there's a tendancy for the mods to blame the players and the players to blame the mods, but they sorta bounce off of each other. The thing is that the mods were initally put there to stop the porn (and worse) from being posted, and then somewhere down the line it got a bit much for some people, so they started trying to brink the rules a bit, which obviously is only gonna mean that there's more modding, then more brinking, and so on. I don't think anyone would deny that these days people get the gort for far less than they would've had to a year and a half ago.

I have very fond memories of summer/autumn 2003. Those were the best days of General. :(

The spam had to go however, and at the time it was only the nubs that were posting it. But it seemed as though as soon as the crackdown on spam began, all the serious people started getting into it. And once the general forum royalty and the spammers merged into one community, it was obvious what would happen, they suffered for it, and ended up leaving in droves. This was personally frustrating for me, because a lot of people with whom I chatted so long in all those social threads, started doing stuff which I detested, and got warned, deleted, banned, etc. One time I left for a week and came back to find a friend's nation dead, and asked her WTF, and she said she went on a flaming rampage because she was bored and wanted some fun.

Not surprisingly, I lost a lot of friends, being on the anti-spam side, but what can you do when confronted with that attitude? When one day people are content to chat in a hug store and go to an RP ball, and then they're postwhoring and spamming porn.

I think the community burned itself out from the inside, it wasn't destroyed the way some people think. Such a shame. But it was great fun while it lasted. :(
...amazingly it appears that this change happened right about the time that everyone's most hated mod left...lol

...amazingly it appears that this change happened right about the time that everyone's most hated mod left...lol
So what does that make you then, the first rat off the ship? :D

We didn't need you to keep the players in line, we needed you to keep the mods in line :p

So what does that make you then, the first rat off the ship? :D

We didn't need you to keep the players in line, we needed you to keep the mods in line :p

I'd like to think I helped do a little of both. Apparently, it wasnt as appreciated as I thought it was...

General used to be the only non-political or RP forum around...now that's all that's left...it sucks...
oh i dunno - i may not have been here back in 03 but for me the golden years were december 04 to feb 05-ish, when tink, TIN, moley, peechie, oxana and many others got away with plenty of spam, seemingly as long as we kept it to one thread (or so). remember all of TIN's oh-so random threads? :p
it was when tink and i got e-married and there were plenty spammy threads about then... (as well as lots of those personality contests - for better or worse). so, for a short time it was like the (awesome sounding) community of '03 you've described :)

but things are way serious now, i'll agree - and thats not even compared to the old timers time...

oh i dunno - i may not have been here back in 03 but for me the golden years were december 04 to feb 05-ish, when tink, TIN, moley, peechie, oxana and many others got away with plenty of spam, seemingly as long as we kept it to one thread (or so). remember all of TIN's oh-so random threads? :p
it was when tink and i got e-married and there were plenty spammy threads about then... for a short time it was like the (awesome sounding) community of '03 you've described :)

but things are way serious now, i'll agree - and thats not even compared to the old timers time...

Not being around in mid-'03 either, I agree. We could have our little social conversations and not get in trouble, and if you got sick of arguing with people, you could start a fun thread. Now it's different.

Not being around in mid-'03 either, I agree. We could have our little social conversations and not get in trouble, and if you got sick of arguing with people, you could start a fun thread. Now it's different.
precisely... a semi-golden time where to mods tolerated stupid threads and there were enough spamtastic people around to make it fun (edit: is tink even still here - i haven't seen her around for days... again :()
the social aspect of the forum was just great :)
still is, but its all in a much more serious envrionment now...


ah, nostalgia ain't what it used to be ;)

'Ello

Well, are you?

I'm here physically...mentally, I make no guarantees as to my location.

Yeah. Like how Bush thinks about global warming.

Oh, please. :rolleyes: Bush may be full of hot air, but he doesn't cause global warming.

;)

Oh, please. :rolleyes: Bush may be full of hot air, but he doesn't cause global warming.

;)

NO...NO Politics in this thread. I wont accept it. Damnit.

I think a lot of it has to do with the Mod curtailing all the spam...that was what made General General...now people dont know how to spam in General anymore - and the few that do are afraid of getting in trouble or having a thread shut down for it...

As mentioned in Sdaeriji's sig :)



At any given time, there are usually only 6-7 threads that I've bothered to even look at, and that goes down to 3-4 that I'll look at a second time. Even then there's only a few I end up posting in. I try and crack jokes here and there, but there are so many people who seem to be utterly humourless. My posts per day has droped off a lot, but I can't seem to get away.

NO...NO Politics in this thread. I wont accept it. Damnit.

Don't dictate terms to me! *waggles finger* I'll lock you in a room with Dick Cheney and I'll tell him you voted for Ralph Nader. It'll be like blood in the water. :D

Don't dictate terms to me! *waggles finger* I'll lock you in a room with Dick Cheney and I'll tell him you voted for Ralph Nader. It'll be like blood in the water. :D


He doesn't look too fit that guy. He'd probably start foaming at the mouth before collapsing and then Sput will be stuck with a dead and decaying dick cheney..


Or was that the idea?

He doesn't look too fit that guy. He'd probably start foaming at the mouth before collapsing and then Sput will be stuck with a dead and decaying dick cheney..


Or was that the idea?
Whatever happens, it's bad for him. :)

You guys are pure evil incarnate....lol

You guys are pure evil incarnate....lol
We love you too Neut.