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Some people have a handicap call dyslexia. Im one of them.


Some fact about it:

Dyslexia is a cognitive deficit in which a person's reading and/or writing ability is significantly lower than that which would be predicted by his or her general level of intelligence. The term was coined in 1887. People are diagnosed as dyslexic when their reading problems cannot be explained by a lack of intellectual ability, inadequate instruction, or sensory problems such as poor eyesight. Because reading is a complex mental process, dyslexia has many potential causes. From a neurophysiological perspective, dyslexia can be diagnosed by close inspection of the morphology of the brain, usually upon autopsy. Dyslexia is also associated with phonological difficulties, such as enunciation.

I hope dis message are help people to not judging poeple becuse day have difficulty to reading/or writing.

I certainly wouldn't make fun of somebody if they have a disablity making it hard for them to spell words correctly. That would be wrong, and being somebody who has a disablity, I'd be offended if somebody did that.

The people who have the ability to spell correctly, yet intentionally spell words wrong can fuck off, though. They annoy me.

There's also some people that don't speak English as a first language. That influences grammar and spelling quite a bit too.

That said, it's never a good arguement to address spelling in a debate, unless it causes multiple interpretations of a valid point, in which case it's better to ask nicely about it. Mocking spelling is usually a sign of losing a debate ;)

There's also some people that don't speak English as a first language. That influences grammar and spelling quite a bit too.

That said, it's never a good arguement to address spelling in a debate, unless it causes multiple interpretations of a valid point, in which case it's better to ask nicely about it. Mocking spelling is usually a sign of losing a debate ;)

.....You forgot the period after debate! :p

I want to apologize in advance because I'm probably going to forget that you have dyslexia and someday make fun of the spelling in one of your posts. You have an excuse for poor spelling, but some people aren't dyslexic and still spell like "R U making fun ov my spelin"

I have a signature making fun of people who can't spell, so this is deeply hypocritical of me, but I don't usually make fun of people who can't spell. Grammar is more my thing.

.....You forgot the period after debate! :pAll my spelling mistakes and typos are intended. I am perfect :D
(And I don't suffer from dyslexic mafinestations either ;) )

I have a signature making fun of people who can't spell, so this is deeply hypocritical of me, but I don't usually make fun of people who can't spell. Grammar is more my thing.I've been blessed with a natural affinity to spelling. It's no different than someone else being better in sport than me. No reason to put someone down because they're not as good as it.

Yeah, hilarious.

*snip*
Very well spoken [typed?]. Any dyslexic who can spell 'neurophysiological' correctly kicks ass in my book.

Good point! every one makes typo's. I suppose ppl just point them when they aren't winning an arguement!

Can I suggest that the parodies, though intended as funny, rather sabotage Pitholm's point and could even be construed as offensive by him and others.

There are also people who have english as their second language, and may use incorrect grammar and bad spelling when typing up a post . Not everyone here is perfect with english, and I'm completely ok with it. Others should be more accepting of that fact.

I seriously can't stand it when people attack such obviously confusing things such as "your" and "you're" or "its" and "it's". It takes only half as much intelligence as required to make a proper arguement to figure out which one was intended...

I still insist that correct grammar has never confused anyone. I don't care if someone misuses 'it's' occasionally, but there are times when it is genuinely misleading.

English is a hard language to spell. If you ask me, a spelling reform would be nice.

The problem with this is that it isn't always easy to tell stupid, dyslexic and lazy people apart.

English is a hard language to spell. If you ask me, a spelling reform would be nice.Be careful what you wish for...
I'm German, I know just what horror the words "spelling reform" carry behind them :(

English is a hard language to spell. If you ask me, a spelling reform would be nice.

English is a beautiful language! Despite my own dyslexia, I would never have it changed or reformed.

Consider the word "cabbage". What a great word. Just say it really slowly. Cab-Idge - it's practically music!

And of course 'cellar door'.

Very well spoken [typed?]. Any dyslexic who can spell 'neurophysiological' correctly kicks ass in my book.

the explanation of the handicap its from a book.

I have a signature making fun of people who can't spell, so this is deeply hypocritical of me, but I don't usually make fun of people who can't spell. Grammar is more my thing.

I think its okej to tell if im spelling wrong if the person dont do it in a condescending way.

And of course 'cellar door'.

Indeed.

If I yawn and burp at the the same time, is that a YAWP?

I still insist that correct grammar has never confused anyone. I don't care if someone misuses 'it's' occasionally, but there are times when it is genuinely misleading.

Yes sometime can a wrong spelling have the effect at the sense become complete different.

'Yawp' is a very cosmopolitan thing. REAL men 'blawn'. It sounds better.

Sweden1974, you should know I'm with you on this. I hate people who patronise others in this way. Even though I often do it myself.

'Yawp' is a very cosmopolitan thing. REAL men 'blawn'. It sounds better.

YAWP cuts a very dashing figure against the moonlight and later the sunrise. BLAWN is reminiscent of dentist's appointment.

bah i rarely make fun or even point out others' bad spelling - or at least i try not to. this is mostly cos i "used to be" dyslexic - diagnosed at the local dyslexia institute and all, wrote a fair few things backwards, had really bad spelling, and was slow in my reading development. still a really slow reader, bah.
once we discovered the institute's classes were shite, we, thankfully, went for some private tuition that i took for many years. phonetically spelling things, amongst other - now subconcious - techniques, helps shitloads and largely allows me to overcome any linguistic limitations the disability once caused.

however i still have loads of problems with maths and making patterns with things - be they numerical, musical or otherwise (logical maybe)... dyscalculia its called and is a specific part/offshoot of dyslexia (and is why i hate maths)




besides, there's no need to make fun of someone's spelling at all. if they can't spell well and you can, so fucking what? make them feel bad, why not? yeah good idea, spelling freaks :rolleyes:
and this goes for when people who can normally spell just mash an extra key on the keyboard... it happens you know.
the exception, of course, is people speaking in msn/txt speak... now that does piss me off

Some people have a handicap call dyslexia. Im one of them.

Umm...being dyslexic doesn't mean you're retarded. Use spell check.

Umm...being dyslexic doesn't mean you're retarded. Use spell check.
I'm dyslexic and I *NEVER* use a spell check.
There are some things that my brain just wants to spell incorrectly. Every single time I'll type it wrong. Then go back and correct it. Most of those words I now spell wrong, then correct without thinking and, because I write slower than I type, I correct it in my mind before writing them. If I used a spell checker I would never had "practiced" spelling those words, as I'd make the mistake and then not learn to correct it.

I see dyslexia as a disadvantage, but not as a reason to "give up". Don't you date tease my spelling, I've put a lot more work into being able to spell correctly than you have. Feel free at any time to correct my spelling, I need to know if I'm doing something wrong before I can fix it.

Now, at 24, I'm very proud of my spelling. I haven't checked, but I suspect I haven't made any spelling mistakes or typos so far in this post (but I did correct a few words as I was writing them)

I have dyslexic friends who spell every second word wrong, obviously they need to use a spell checker, and can't take the time to check every word. In those cases, I just point out spelling for particularly weird words that they might not know or be able to work out (quiche vs keesh), and leave the rest.

The whole point of correct spelling is to be understandable, and that is a perfectly good goal.

So, my attitude is, if they're spelling badly, and don't seem to care, point it out. If they still don't care, that's their own choice, but they can certainly be criticized for not caring, it doesn't just effect them, but those around them too. A forum for discussion and debate is no place for bad spelling if it can be avoided.

Dyslexics of the world untie!

I'm dyslexic and I *NEVER* use a spell check!

Then it's your fault if you get made fun of. You have a chance to correct your spelling and you didn't take advantage of it.

I disagree. Having a disability (spell checques don't work inn awl cases - sea?) doesn't automatically mean you should be mocked, simply because you choose not to go to extra lengths to accommodate others' standards.

Very well spoken [typed?]. Any dyslexic who can spell 'neurophysiological' correctly kicks ass in my book.

Hell yeah!
from what i've read, dyslexia has a spectrum of things it can do. i'm lysdexic, but my spelling is fine apart from words about .5% of people can spell, like "diahorreha" (is that it?)

from what i've found, dyslexia is due to more long neurones joining cells in the brain, a jump from the normal 1-3% long 'uns to anywhere up to 10 or 12%. basically, this means bits of your brain are getting involved in things they don't do. one advantage of this is thinking in 3D occurs, meaning where normally the brain looks at a word and goes "D-O-G spells dog", a dyslexic brain picks it up, rearranges it in other ways and may go "D-O-G.... G-O-D. yes, god."

I'm not sure if i do that, but i've spent my lifetyping and thus on a computer with a normal keyboard i'm fine.

so, if you're dyslexic, try some 3D computer graphics. lysdexia gives you the upper hand!

and yes, i did nick 'lysdexic' from retarded animal babies. sue me, please.

Hell yeah!
from what i've read, dyslexia has a spectrum of things it can do. i'm lysdexic, but my spelling is fine apart from words about .5% of people can spell, like "diahorreha" (is that it?)

from what i've found, dyslexia is due to more long neurones joining cells in the brain, a jump from the normal 1-3% long 'uns to anywhere up to 10 or 12%. basically, this means bits of your brain are getting involved in things they don't do. one advantage of this is thinking in 3D occurs, meaning where normally the brain looks at a word and goes "D-O-G spells dog", a dyslexic brain picks it up, rearranges it in other ways and may go "D-O-G.... G-O-D. yes, god."

I'm not sure if i do that, but i've spent my lifetyping and thus on a computer with a normal keyboard i'm fine.

so, if you're dyslexic, try some 3D computer graphics. lysdexia gives you the upper hand!

and yes, i did nick 'lysdexic' from retarded animal babies. sue me, please.
hehe all true... dyslexics do generally seem to have good visual-spatial ability - probably why i'm in graphic design :P
yet i still manage to get lost a lot :confused:

and that thing about dog/god i would say is true too - hence why you/we have to concentrate hard when reading, and generally tend to read a fair bit slower than you normies...

Speal Chevkers rre jounk!
Disekics should dii!

Umm...being dyslexic doesn't mean you're retarded. Use spell check.

its not so simple becuse the problem can be gramma not spell.

And you can spell wrong so it be a new word.

Then it's your fault if you get made fun of. You have a chance to correct your spelling and you didn't take advantage of it.

its very difficult the spell check is not 100 %.

becuse you can spell wrong and it bee a new world for example.

I dont mean it as an offence, but isn't it weird how almost all dyslexic people can spell dyslexia? I mean, it's one of the only words in the english language that follows no kind of spelling pattern, or anything. It's like someone sat on a keyboard when thinking about what to call it, and that came up so they went along with that. Its like it dosent want anyone to write it so it makes itself really awkward. And BTW, to all the people who complain about spelling so much, it's not like your whole damn world is going to implode just because someone can't spell as good as you.

Oh, and did you konw, taht if the frsit and lsat lteetrs of a wrod are in the rgiht pacle, and the ohter lteetrs are siltl in the wrod, tehn the barin can slitl raed the wrod. Lkie tihs! (No offence intended ;) ) (And if you can't make sense of that bit there, sorry, It dosen't work... damn)

I dont mean it as an offence, but isn't it weird how almost all dyslexic people can spell dyslexia? I mean, it's one of the only words in the english language that follows no kind of spelling pattern, or anything. It's like someone sat on a keyboard when thinking about what to call it, and that came up so they went along with that. Its like it dosent want anyone to write it so it makes itself really awkward. And BTW, to all the people who complain about spelling so much, it's not like your whole damn world is going to implode just because someone can't spell as good as you.

Oh, and did you konw, taht if the frsit and lsat lteetrs of a wrod are in the rgiht pacle, and the ohter lteetrs are siltl in the wrod, tehn the barin can slitl raed the wrod. Lkie tihs! (No offence intended ;) ) (And if you can't make sense of that bit there, sorry, It dosen't work... damn)

Dis is becuse we can call to mind special words.

Dyslexia is a very personal handicap. What for of word you have diffcult to spell can be different. Dis is becuse handicap are more or less difficult. like see problem you can bee blind or you can see litle.

A friend of mine who has dyslexia tells me that the major problem dyslexics have is the fact they see words in three-dimensions, as opposed to everyone else seeing it in two. Thus, the words are jumbled up, and he often has to re-read sentences to make sure they are logically correct.

A friend of mine who has dyslexia tells me that the major problem dyslexics have is the fact they see words in three-dimensions, as opposed to everyone else seeing it in two. Thus, the words are jumbled up, and he often has to re-read sentences to make sure they are logically correct.

Yes its true, its very difficult to read for some of us more difficult and spell.

Then it's your fault if you get made fun of. You have a chance to correct your spelling and you didn't take advantage of it.

Spell checkers have this problem though -- they correct your spelling to whatever word they THINK you mean.

So if I typed "surf and turd" -- well, you know I mean surf and turf, but my spellchecker saw a correctly spelled word and skipped it.

http://www.latech.edu/tech/liberal-arts/geography/courses/spellchecker.htm
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.

Speal Chevkers rre jounk!
Disekics should dii!
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The Colour of the day is Blue!except in thy sig where it is obviously white here >.<

Harlesburg, the sig limit is 8 lines, not 16. Reduce it, will ya?

God, that poem's a classic. I'm a proof reader, and I can guarantee you that spell checks simply don't work. What makes mine even more redundant is that I've saved so many new words over the years: I added 'teh' because it was so commonly used jokingly - but now of course when I mistype 'the' as 'teh', it doesn't recognise it. The only way to proof work is to read it thoroughly: for dyslexics that can be very hard indeed.

WOW...so many saints and nice people on NS I never would of thought it.... :rolleyes:

Harlesburg, the sig limit is 8 lines, not 16. Reduce it, will ya?
Sorry i dont know what happened there.
*Looks Sheepish* :(

I dont mean it as an offence, but isn't it weird how almost all dyslexic people can spell dyslexia?
It probably depends on the way in which their particular condition manifests. I 'feel' words in a sense, dyslexia is easy because it feels like it spells. I think that because it is not so easy to spell by repetition (words do not always look the same, and since one has a tendancy to transpose, learning to spell by looking and doing works out less well for me than learning to spell by matching the feel of a word with the letters), dyslexics can actually end up being pretty good spellers. I struggle to spell in typing (and to a lesser extend in writing) words that I can easily spell if asked to spell verbally.

In fact I find that rather than being unable to spell words, my larger concern is being unable to detect errors (especially if I am familiar with the text, and worse when reading a computer screen than when reading from hard copy), and when tired having trouble keeping reading in a linear fashion (I might insert words from the line below or above, or skip a line when returning to the left hand side of a page, or keep returning to the line I have just read). Also despite being perfectly aware how to spell words I often transpose when actually writing or typing them. If very tired I will even write the letters (or numbers) backward so that d is b and b is d. The strange part is even if I read back a number to someone that I am writing down, I can read back the number they told me, whilst still writing the number down transposed.

I mean, it's one of the only words in the english language that follows no kind of spelling pattern, or anything.
Actually it is quite a distinct word that spells as it feels. Dys is the only place one might go astray (for instance it could be dis), however y in place of i is uncommon enough that it can 'stick out' so is easily remembered. From there lexic is easier than pie (vowel combinations can be a real drag).

Oh, and did you konw, taht if the frsit and lsat lteetrs of a wrod are in the rgiht pacle, and the ohter lteetrs are siltl in the wrod, tehn the barin can slitl raed the wrod. Lkie tihs! (No offence intended ;) ) (And if you can't make sense of that bit there, sorry, It dosen't work... damn)
Yes I did know that! Speaking of interesting ideas about written language and dyslexics, my sister has a theory that dyslexics are better able to read upside down writing than non-dyslexics. She has no scientific data to back up this theory... ;)

As for people criticising spelling instead of addressing the points in a legible (although slightly misspelled post), I just laugh, it makes it pretty clear the person has nothing substantial to say. Talk about clutching at straws! It's even more amusing when an American English user tries to correct a dyslexic British English user's spelling. In case any Americans are interested 2 hints for distinguishing correct British English spelling from wrong spelling

If there appears to be extra vowels (for example colour) then chances are the vowels actually do belong there.
If Z appears to have been replaced with S, chances are S does belong there.

Bonus word for the day Gaol = jail (although probably due to numerous American cartoons, many, if not most, British English users now also spell it jail.

its true word uncommon enough that it can 'stick out' so is easily remembered must difficult word to spell is word how is resemble each other.