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We're all screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I'm dedicating this thread to the fact with all the different religions saying we are damned for so doing pretty much anything. I want this thread to be some bragging rights before we all learn to swallow fire.

I for one, have done excessive amounts of drugs, drank in excess many many times, have had pre-marital sex, have used the Lord's name in vain, and have used many racial epithets and/or slurs.

WARNING!!!!! IF WE GET SOME FUNDAMENTALISTS IN THIS THREAD, IGNORE THEM.

I agree. Even if we're doing something right by one religion's standards, another one is convinced we're going to hell for just being what we are.

Are they all right? Is one right? Are they all wrong?

Pointless...'cause we're all heading for the pit! And since we're damned to begin with, might as well enjoy life!

I hate to say it, but I masturbate frequently. And I've used the lord's name in vain on many occasions. I also don't go to church. The only thing keeping me to the christian faith is the idea of heaven. And by admitting these things, I'm pretty sure I ain't headed there.

No debating, just some friendly chit chat on why were doomed, personally.

Like the following, I punched someone in the face yesterday and didn't say I was sorry.

We're all screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that's like the basic premise of Christianity. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, we were all screwed right to begin with, even before we were born and even before we had a chance to do anything wrong. (That's why Jesus had to die for us).

WARNING!!!!! IF WE GET SOME FUNDAMENTALISTS IN THIS THREAD, IGNORE THEM.

I assume you're talking about me.

First of all, let me say I'm Catholic. However, most of you aren't, and don't believe on the same things we do. You don't seem very sure of your own beliefs: if you don't worship God, then you don't believe in Hell, and therefore you shouldn't be so scared since Hell doesn't exist, according to you.

In all seriousness, I personally believe in an afterlife. However, I do not think that any omnipotent being would be so cruel as to condemn a person to an eternity of suffering for trivial things they did in a 70 year lifespan.

What I'm saying is...I don't believe in Hell.

I'd rather go to hell. All my friends, and all the cool people are going to be in hell. All heaven will have is a bunch of religious nuts.

However, I do not think that any omnipotent being would be so cruel as to condemn a person to an eternity of suffering for trivial things they did in a 70 year lifespan.
You obviously don't know enough about God. Let me brief you about mortal and venial sins. I hope this clears some things up:

"A serious, grave or mortal sin is the knowing and willful violation of God's law in a serious matter, for example, idolatry, adultery, murder, slander. These are all things gravely contrary to the love we owe God and, because of Him, our neighbor. As Jesus taught, when condemning even looking at a woman lustfully, sin can be both interior (choices of the will alone) or exterior (choices of the will carried into action). A man who willfully desires to fornicate, steal, murder or some other grave sin, has already seriously offended God by choosing interiorly what God has prohibited.

Mortal sin is called mortal because it is the "spiritual" death of the soul (separation from God). If we are in the state of grace it loses this supernatural life for us. If we die without repenting we will lose Him for eternity. However, by turning our hearts back to Him and receiving the Sacrament of Penance we are restored to His friendship. Catholics are not allowed to receive Communion if they have unconfessed mortal sins.

Venial sins are slight sins. They do not break our friendship with God, although they injure it. They involve disobedience of the law of God in slight (venial) matters. If we gossip and destroy a person's reputation it would be a mortal sin. However, normally gossip is about trivial matters and only venially sinful. Additionally, something that is otherwise a mortal sin (e.g. slander) may be in a particular case only a venial sin. The person may have acted without reflection or under force of habit. Thus, not fully intending the action their guilt before God is reduced. It is always good to remember, especially those who are trying to be faithful but sometimes fall, that for mortal sin it must not only be 1) serious matter, but 2) the person must know it is serious and then 3) freely commit it."

All in all, you go to Hell if you willfully kill, steal, rape, etc. and don't thoughtfully repent. Running over a cat accidentally and feeling sorry for it, for example, is not an express ticket to the fiery realms of doom. :p

I will be treading lava in the lakes of fire for the following reasons:

1. I smoke pot every day, if I can.
2. I've eaten mush (that's magic mushrooms for those who are unfamiliar with the lingo) many times.
3. I get drunk often enough to be considered an alcoholic
4. I'm lazy as all fuck (sloth is one of the seven deadly sins, after all).
5. I follow no religion, and think all religion is pointless.
6. Did I mention I smoke a lot of pot?
7. Pre-marital sex and lots of it.
8. I eat meat on Fridays.
9. I converted a devout Christian to Atheism during my stint as a devout Atheist (if you don't go to hell for that, what do you go to hell for?).
10. I 'steal' (if you consider downloading pirated media stealing).
11. Masturbation....(ew, my keyboard is stickey).
12. Ditto the lord's name in vain thingy.
13. Smoke pot every day...um, oops..

That's about it I think...
You tell me; Am I damned?

God must be one petty bastard if he's going to let my sex life get in the way of our friendship.

*sigh*

Whatever...I said I personally believe that God wouldn't act that way. I didn't say that it was "fact". Just my opinion.

Sloth, lust, Gluttony, Anger and Pride.
The other two are the only ones that i've got nothing to do with.

I think I might have covetted my neighbour's wife.

Covet = 2nd base, right?

God must be one petty bastard if he's going to let my sex life get in the way of our friendship.

If you were an omnipotent being, and you repeatedly told people not to do a certain thing, and they kept doing it anyway, wouldn't you get a little ticked off?

If you were an omnipotent being, and you repeatedly told people not to do a certain thing, and they kept doing it anyway, wouldn't you get a little ticked off?

No, if I was an omnipotent being I'd be doing cool stuff like watching women undress and confusing scientists by changing the laws of gravity.

I'm sorry, but the only think I can correct is...
8. I eat meat on Fridays.
So? Eating meat is partially forbidden on Fridays of the 40 days before Easter. I say partially because you can eat meat if you're willing to make another sacrifice equally laborious.

As for the rest of your points... I don't know... I doubt getting drunk's a sin, though I'm not sure about the drugs.

No, if I was an omnipotent being I'd be doing cool stuff like watching women undress and confusing scientists by changing the laws of gravity.

Yeah, its mildly surprising that God doesn't do those things. At least I assume he doesn't do those things. Maybe the whole Creation/Evolution thing is just him messing around with the scientists' minds . . .

Well, at least some people think like I do. LOL, we are all screwed. Since there is no "One true religion", no matter what you do you are screwed. If you abide by one religion's laws you are sinning by another's. Its a death trap to avoid sinning. Live life naturally, or however the hell you want, but I'm not wasting my Sundays going to church instead of playing CounterStrike!
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church is only 4 an hour

Church blows!

Hmm... what could I be going to hell for...

1. I believe in the Christian god only as one among many.
2. I definitely use his name in vain.
3. I swear a lot.
4. Often I combine 2 and 3. Did you know Jesus's middle name was Fucking?
5. I have no intention of saving my virginity for marriage.
6. I've eaten half a pound of chocolate at one sitting. Cheese too. And no regrets.

That's all I can think of for right now... but you know something I've thought about? Christian religion says that Jesus died to save us all, but it only works if we believe in him. I just now realized that's kind of like admitting that it's a placebo effect. I know that's not exactly it, but you know what I mean. What we believe, happens to us.

1. I despise religion, and hate excessivley devout Christians
2. I curse proficiently and loudly
3. I do whatever the hell I want to
4. I'm pro-choice
5. I say jesus fucking christ
6. I have achieved the great honor of comitting every single one of the seven deadly sins.

See ya in Hell everyone!

I agree. Even if we're doing something right by one religion's standards, another one is convinced we're going to hell for just being what we are.

Are they all right? Is one right? Are they all wrong?

Pointless...'cause we're all heading for the pit! And since we're damned to begin with, might as well enjoy life!

Ah... it's not all that bad. Not every religion believes in eternal hellfire or original sin crap. Some are downright optimistic, even.

It seems to me that any all powerful, all knowing God must have a pretty healthy sense of humour, and probably doesn't sweat it when us puny insignificant mortals occasionally blaspheme or play with our naughty bits.

Yeah, its mildly surprising that God doesn't do those things. At least I assume he doesn't do those things. Maybe the whole Creation/Evolution thing is just him messing around with the scientists' minds . . .

Yeah, but if God went and changed the rules on us, would we notice? What if the sky was hot pink and we all had tentacles growing out of our heads, but we just don't remember?

We've all comitted the 7 deadly sins. You can commit most of them just watchin tv an eatin a sandwich. If your proud of the tv or sandwich. And eat it slowly. And there are attractive ladies (Or chaps) on the tv. and you get angry and jealous that theyre on tv an your not. If I'd gone to church sunday moring instead none of that would have happened. h well.