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Do you find?

77Seven77
24-08-2005, 20:26
That your political views do not really fit compleatly into any main political party? I do and intrested to hear your opinions :)
Vetalia
24-08-2005, 20:27
Absolutely. Declared Independent from the day I became eligible to register to vote.
Fass
24-08-2005, 20:32
We have 7 main parties and I actually fit very well in several of them depending on what level of government it is I'm voting for.

In the last general elections I voted for three different parties; one for my local municipal assembly, another for the county council and a third for the national parliament.

I also find that this thread's title is insufficiant. Is it really so hard to write a title that tells you what the thread is about?
Sumamba Buwhan
24-08-2005, 20:37
Yes I do find that my political views are not compliant with any political party.
DHomme
24-08-2005, 20:40
Mine arent really compliable with any main parties. *sigh* I wonder why?
Belligerent Duct Tape
24-08-2005, 20:48
Everybody who agrees is going to be an American. Our parties suck ass, and they're both owned by Pepsi.
Zedexia
24-08-2005, 20:48
Oh my gosh yes! For instance, I have voted for president in every election since I was old enough to vote and the last time I voted for a major party candidate was in 1976. (My choices get somewhere in the 0.1% of the vote range...)
Evil Arch Conservative
24-08-2005, 20:51
I've found that the 'main parties' in my country do not have one set ideology that every single member follows. The closest thing they have to that is the ideology of their leaders at a federal level (president and leaders of the senate). From the house of representatives down to local government, in each party individual politician's policies can and often do vary wildly from each other. I've found that trying to cookie cutter politicians by party only works for the senate and the executive office, and then only as a guideline.

My political views are probably held by scores of republicans and democrats around the country.
Siull
24-08-2005, 21:39
In the Uk, there are both the Labour (liberal socialists), Liberal Democrats (even more lefty than Labour) and the Conservatives (aptly named!). As a libertarian, my views are a mixture of those of Labour and those of the Conservatives. I would probably however vote Conservative! :)
_Myopia_
24-08-2005, 22:00
I can't find a UK party which I don't have substantial objections to either. I'll be eligible to vote from next year, and I'll probably end up either abstaining or grudgingly voting lib dem if there's a chance of keeping a labourite or tory out of whatever position's up for grabs.
_Myopia_
24-08-2005, 22:07
In the Uk, there are both the Labour (liberal socialists), Liberal Democrats (even more lefty than Labour) and the Conservatives (aptly named!). As a libertarian, my views are a mixture of those of Labour and those of the Conservatives. I would probably however vote Conservative! :)

New Labour are neither liberal (look at all the authoritarian measures they've attempted, supposedly to counter terrorism) nor socialist, and the lib dems are shifting closer and closer to the right economically. After the election Kennedy appointed to his shadow cabinet a bunch of libertarian-leaning politicians, like David Laws (who has talked favourably about destroying the NHS), and has proposed abandoning the 50% tax rate on income over £100,000.
TearTheSkyOut
24-08-2005, 22:19
I have yet to find one (that already exists) that covers my views.
Allthenamesarereserved
25-08-2005, 01:00
Yup, in Canada there's the NDP (waaay left wing, almost socialist), the Liberals, (not quite as left wing) and the conservatives (right wing). Since I'm very centrist, I don't have any place politically I fit in, and I don't even know who I'll vote for when I'm 18. It sucks!
DHomme
25-08-2005, 01:03
In the Uk, there are both the Labour (liberal socialists), Liberal Democrats (even more lefty than Labour) and the Conservatives (aptly named!). As a libertarian, my views are a mixture of those of Labour and those of the Conservatives. I would probably however vote Conservative! :)

you cant say that labour are socialists man. Especially considering that theyve done more privatising than the torys did I woulda thought you libertarians would be fans
Pure Metal
25-08-2005, 01:05
I can't find a UK party which I don't have substantial objections to either. I'll be eligible to vote from next year, and I'll probably end up either abstaining or grudgingly voting lib dem if there's a chance of keeping a labourite or tory out of whatever position's up for grabs.
same here - its definatley true that no parties (that i know of) in the UK fit my ideals, and i have issues with all the main ones.
i vote labour or lib dem just to keep the tories out :P


heh this is why i/we created our own micronation (in sig) - cos the real world finds our views stange and crazy :p
Squirrel Brothers
25-08-2005, 01:15
I find myself in a similar boat... I accept Christian values so you'd think I would like Republicans but I don't like their economic ideas and I'm against war. In my opinion, Democrats tend to be less morally oriented but they know how to keep the country from falling apart economically. As a note to all, I'm not excedingly well informed in politics and I fully understand that I am speaking in sweeping generalizations now. Just thought I'd make that clear.
77Seven77
25-08-2005, 09:58
"I also find that this thread's title is insufficiant. Is it really so hard to write a title that tells you what the thread is about?"

Ohhh I am sooo dreadfully sorry! Get a life :rolleyes:
Zrrylarg
25-08-2005, 11:07
i find it hard to fit in, considering i'm an anarcho-communist.
but the aussie parties are just f****d up, 'liberal' means 'conservative',and 'labour' is more left wing than 'liberal'
go figure!
Kanabia
25-08-2005, 11:10
That your political views do not really fit compleatly into any main political party? I do and intrested to hear your opinions :)

I'd be amused if there were, considering that I am anarcho-communist. :p

EDIT-

i find it hard to fit in, considering i'm an anarcho-communist.
but the aussie parties are just f****d up, 'liberal' means 'conservative',and 'labour' is more left wing than 'liberal'
go figure!


Ha! Comrade. *nods* :p
Mykonians
25-08-2005, 11:13
Not only do I not agree with any political parties enough to vote for any of them, but I've lost all faith in politics and democracy in general-- they accomplish nothing, have no idea what the word 'truth' means, and they only serve to make life difficult for everybody else. Doesn't matter which of the three main parties you vote for, you'll get the same thing. When you can ask any random person why they're voting for a certain person, and they answer, "because I don't like the way the other guy looks", you know we're f**ked for good anyway.
Seosavists
25-08-2005, 11:51
I'm pretty sure one of them have to fit my views, socialist party is close maybe labour, not exactly main but they both have seats and could get into government in a coalition
Aplastaland
25-08-2005, 11:57
Well, I vote socialist, but there are many times that the party doesn't fit to my ideas. Not because I'm not really socialist, but because they always act in a half way to socialism, and in a half way to socialdemocracy. Why do I vote them? Because they are the only party which has the possibility of maintain out of the power to the right-wing! All the conservative and racist votes in Spain go to PP, but the left-wing vote is divided between republicanists, communists, socialists, socialdemocrats... and between all that mountain of parties, the socialist party is the one who, I guess, fits more with the majority of the people. If our communist party had a clear leader, and with brain...
Mekonia
25-08-2005, 12:09
That your political views do not really fit compleatly into any main political party? I do and intrested to hear your opinions :)


Completely agree with you. I have a mixed view of opinions as a politics students people are always saying that you have to join a political party(I live in Ireland) and there are so many of them that I fundamentally disagree with, but support bits of policies from another. I like the simplicity of the American Party system-I know the divide between the two parties isn't as obvious as it once was but is nicer than FF,FG,LB,SF,GP,SP and a million independants....
Monkeypimp
25-08-2005, 12:12
Hell no, none of the parties fit me that well. I'm not anyones target vote.

And whats up with this 'registering as a...' in the US? Is it mandatory that you say what party you like when you enroll to vote or something?
Hemingsoft
25-08-2005, 12:57
I'm what few of my friends like to call the Intelligent Party. This party's policies consist of looking at every issue independent of others and mostly choosing the option of what will benefit the overall economy the most. Sometimes the choice is liberal, sometimes its conservative.
_Myopia_
25-08-2005, 13:06
See, looking at issues independently is half the problem I'm having with the UK parties at the moment. It seems to be unfashionable to hold up a unifying political philosophy or ideology and develop responses to issues from that ideology - instead parties seem to just abandon ideals and go with what they reckon will grab votes on individual issues. I think one of the biggest losses is that increasingly populism and fairly short-sighted utilitarianism drown out considerations of liberty. The general election seemed to be less a clash of visions and more a matter of petty bickering and attacks on competency.
Angelicia
25-08-2005, 13:11
That your political views do not really fit compleatly into any main political party? I do and intrested to hear your opinions :)

Yes, I do. I think if I had been 18 for last years general election (UK) I would have voted Lib Dem but that would have been on the strength of my dislike for Micheal Howard (and the tories in general) and Tony Blair first, and my support of some of their policies second. I consider myself quite disillusioned now :(
[NS]Amestria
25-08-2005, 13:18
My family have been Democrats since 1929 (all of us, even the extended family minus my great grandma who was a German Conservative) and even though we at times have had our differences with the Party we have always supported it.
Jakutopia
25-08-2005, 13:32
Yes I find that too. I'm hoping someday there will be a "common sense party" :D
Retired Majors
25-08-2005, 13:33
I urge all who can not find a political party to support to continue voting.

Vote for anyone, there is usually someone that's worth your cross, tick, chad or whatever. Even if you vote for the person you know can not win it shows the main parties that you care, but not for them.

Amusing voting outcomes (all perfectly true):

The Mayor of Hartlepool(?) is a man in a monkey costume. (H)angus I believe.

There is an ex-doctor who stood on the one campaign idea of saving his hospital. He is now the MP.

And in the 2000 US elections one of the new senators died several days before the election.