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Bush's Letter to Cindy (http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/002289.html)

All there is to say, folks. :)

And here's his actual response.

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Bush's Letter to Cindy (http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/002289.html)

All there is to say, folks. :)

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Bush's Letter to Cindy (http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/002289.html)

All there is to say, folks. :)
Good to see they removed the bit notifying the letter as an aide's prose. ;) :p

Good to see they removed the bit notifying the letter as an aide's prose. ;) :p

Good to see you understand that any/the president doesn't actually do anything himself. He didn't solely declare war (which he doesn't have power to), and thus doesn't solely deserve to be the aim of Sheehan's protest anyways. So thus she deserves a letter not solely written by him.

Well written.

This one's funnier:

"Robertson Issues Fatwa Against Venezuela's Chavez"

"Fatwa!" ROFLMAO!!!

I particularly enjoyed the "he died so you can" blah blah blah bit. The one that completely avoids the question of whether dying in Iraq has ANYTHING to do with protecting freedom. This whole "answer" is actually not an answer, but it does sound flowery and noble! And that's what we want, noble sounds mixed with lies and evasions.

Good to see you understand that any/the president doesn't actually do anything himself.

So what is the point in having a President?

I particularly enjoyed the "he died so you can" blah blah blah bit. The one that completely avoids the question of whether dying in Iraq has ANYTHING to do with protecting freedom. This whole "answer" is actually not an answer, but it does sound flowery and noble! And that's what we want, noble sounds mixed with lies and evasions.

He to her how it was once and it wasn't 'satisfactory'

I particularly enjoyed the "he died so you can" blah blah blah bit. The one that completely avoids the question of whether dying in Iraq has ANYTHING to do with protecting freedom. This whole "answer" is actually not an answer, but it does sound flowery and noble! And that's what we want, noble sounds mixed with lies and evasions.

Yeah I love (not really) how our 'President' says generalized crap like "Pulling out now would weaken the United States", without offering an explanation on how it would do so. I would buy the "It would weaken Iraq" bit, but it would strengthen the U.S. from my perspective because we would have our families and friends back and more forces to defend the U.S. in case we were REALLY threatened by someone.

Yeah I love (not really) how our 'President' says generalized crap like "Pulling out now would weaken the United States", without offering an explanation on how it would do so. I would buy the "It would weaken Iraq" bit, but it would strengthen the U.S. from my perspective because we would have our families and friends back and more forces to defend the U.S. in case we were REALLY threatened by someone.

true, but a large portion of America wouldn't understand the reasoning even if Bill Clinton would get up there and say it. You must agree that the American populous is really stupid.

true, but a large portion of America wouldn't understand the reasoning even if Bill Clinton would get up there and say it. You must agree that the American populous is really stupid.

From reading posts on this forum, I have come to the conclusion that the World populous is really stupid.

true, but a large portion of America wouldn't understand the reasoning even if Bill Clinton would get up there and say it. You must agree that the American populous is really stupid.

I agree that the American populus is kept in the dark and for that reason are largely ignorant of anything happening within or without their borders. Also I know that we have some of the shittiest public education compared to many other 1st world countries. But I wouldn't call us stupid on the whole... just educationally disadvantaged. Besides, that is no reason to talk to us like we are stupid. I am not a Democrat and feel no need to defend Clinton. I think our whole culture sucks and am just pointing out another instance of how lame our Presidents and their speeches can be. Bush and his very secretive underhanded administration does anger me more than any past Jerks in office.

I agree that the American populus is kept in the dark and for that reason are largely ignorant of anything happening within or without their borders. Also I know that we have some of the shittiest public education compared to many other 1st world countries. But I wouldn't call us stupid on the whole... just educationally disadvantaged. Besides, that is no reason to talk to us like we are stupid. I am not a Democrat and feel no need to defend Clinton. I think our whole culture sucks and am just pointing out another instance of how lame our Presidents and their speeches can be. Bush and his very secretive underhanded administration does anger me more than any past Jerks in office.

Well said and well taken. Though I propose part of the problem is that America, on the whole, is not smart enough to choose a good president.

So what is the point in having a President?

he is much like the CEO of a company, while he dosn't often do things himself he aproves of, monitors, publicly endorses and often orders other people's actions - like this speach for instance

Bush and his very secretive underhanded administration does anger me more than any past Jerks in office.

we're fighting a war

do you get angry when the police don't tell you what leads they have and how they're investigating a crime?

Well said and well taken. Though I propose part of the problem is that America, on the whole, is not smart enough to choose a good president.


Thanks - as a USian I would disagree - I have many very intelligent politically active friends who can see the problems within US politics. Hell it was painfully visible to most the people I knew in high school that cared about politics at all.

The problem is, IMHO, corporate control over mainstream media doesn't allow anyone but Dems and Reps visibility, and Dems and Reps always run a bunch of demons. Although I would have liked to see Dennis Kuchinich go further. :(

I think we would vote for a good leader if one was offered to us though.

Thanks - as a USian I would disagree - I have many very intelligent politically active friends who can see the problems within US politics. Hell it was painfully visible to most the people I knew in high school that cared about politics at all.

The problem is, IMHO, corporate control over mainstream media doesn't allow anyone but Dems and Reps visibility, and Dems and Reps always run a bunch of demons. Although I would have liked to see Dennis Kuchinich go further. :(

I think we would vote for a good leader if one was offered to us though.

I also agree with media problem, I have placed many posts arguing that. I just add that Americans, in general, are not capable of the critical thinking which is required to overcome the media problem.

he is much like the CEO of a company, while he dosn't often do things himself he aproves of, monitors, publicly endorses and often orders other people's actions - like this speach for instance

I know most people think this is a radical idea (although I have received compliments on and interest in the idea when I was given time to explain fully *note: I don't have the time to do that now*), but I for one think we should have 5 Presidents (each specializing in two or three certain areas like education, law, economics, foreign policy...) that all voted on final decisions together.

One reason is that I think it's harder to conspire the mroe people there are but there are many other reasons too.

we're fighting a war

do you get angry when the police don't tell you what leads they have and how they're investigating a crime?


It's not just about the war. Let me provide one other example because I gotta run and I don't wanna have do a bunch of research and do all kinds of back and forth posting: I'm talkin' 'bout secret energy meetings that Bush had with the major players in the energy industry. Why so secret? Why is energy a matter of national security? Why are we subsidizing an oil industry when these companies are making upwards of 9 billion dollars every 3 freaking months in pure profit?

I also don't like the way this administration is trying to squash dissent by putting peace activists on no-fly lists as flight risks without good cause, free speech zones, sayign you are either with us or against us...


Anyway... cheers

"ScrappleFace, the daily news satire site, features new stories virtually every day."

Always important to check your internet sites. This one is pretty blatant about the fact that it just makes the news up - or at least is satirizing it. Bush never wrote this, they're just satirizing what they believe he would say.

I also agree with media problem, I have placed many posts arguing that. I just add that Americans, in general, are not capable of the critical thinking which is required to overcome the media problem.


Well I don't know how many Americans you know personally but I know some smart bastards. I think here we will just have to agree to disagree.

"ScrappleFace, the daily news satire site, features new stories virtually every day."

Always important to check your internet sites. This one is pretty blatant about the fact that it just makes the news up - or at least is satirizing it. Bush never wrote this, they're just satirizing what they believe he would say.


Besides that... I looked for humor in many of their satirical articles and was mighty dissapointed that I couldn't find any. They say they got a washington post award but it's one of their lame awards.

I particularly enjoyed the "he died so you can" blah blah blah bit. The one that completely avoids the question of whether dying in Iraq has ANYTHING to do with protecting freedom. This whole "answer" is actually not an answer, but it does sound flowery and noble! And that's what we want, noble sounds mixed with lies and evasions.

he died so that the vast majority of Iraqis can be free from the wacko terrorist nut-jobs who oppressed them under Saddam. And his shameless hippie mother is using his death to promote her I-Hate-America agenda. I am surprised she hasn't been gunned down yet... someone should remind her that she's not in Hollywood or the Sunni Triangle in Iraq (where she'd be much safer).

this is ending up just like the US Civil War and Vietnam... Democrats trying to sabotage the war effort the second things aren't peachy. (remember, it was the repubs in favor of bringing the secessionists back into the US... the Dems didn't give a crap about slavery or the CSA).

"oh, no, people are dying!"

"buck up, pantywaist, that happens in war. don't lose sight of the goal, which is to FREE a PEOPLE from a DICTATORIAL REGIME."

LOL :) I don't know where to start with this one.

Definitely one of my favourite quotes has to be

Mrs. Sheehan, everyone dies.
in english-tough sh*t

As a result, we live in a nation where a woman can camp outside of the president's house and verbally attack the president for weeks on end without fear of prison, torture or death. And the number of nations where such protest is possible has multiplied thanks to the work of our military.

You're lucky that we didn't shoot you in the head or torture you for hours as that would be undemocratic!

In a sense he died so that people like you

Yeah its your fault your son died

hahahaha-there is no way this letter is legit. Bush may be stupid but some of his advisors aren't!

LOL :) I don't know where to start with this one.

Definitely one of my favourite quotes has to be


in english-tough sh*t



You're lucky that we didn't shoot you in the head or torture you for hours as that would be undemocratic!



Yeah its your fault your son died

hahahaha-there is no way this letter is legit. Bush may be stupid but some of his advisors aren't!

actually, while bush's intelligence is misunderestimated -- err, underestimated -- by most in here, he probably is less intelligent than many, if not most, of his advisors. If I were president i would want people around me who were at least as smart as I was.

actually, while bush's intelligence is misunderestimated -- err, underestimated -- by most in here, he probably is less intelligent than many, if not most, of his advisors. If I were president i would want people around me who were at least as smart as I was.


!! Not being overly mean that wouldn't be hard! Highly entertaining letter!

i like the way bush said the iraqis are happy...theyre not. why?

You have asked me to identify the noble cause for which your son died. I have not answered you personally out of respect for the nobility of your son's sacrifice.

WTF he did not bother to answer because her son was noble

i like the way bush said the iraqis are happy...theyre not. why?


Of course they are! Why shouldn't they be? Whats a couple of hundred people a day dying? :confused:

he died so that the vast majority of Iraqis can be free from the wacko terrorist nut-jobs who oppressed them under Saddam.

Well, I'm sure ANY mother would be proud to sacrifice her son for Iraqis. I mean the US might not be worth dying for, but Iraq surely is! ;)

And his shameless hippie mother is using his death to promote her I-Hate-America agenda.

And you're using his mother to promote your I-Hate-Democrats agenda. Meanwhile everyone feeding her attention is giving her what she wants.

I really wish people would think things through.


I am surprised she hasn't been gunned down yet... someone should remind her that she's not in Hollywood or the Sunni Triangle in Iraq (where she'd be much safer).

Yeah, someone needs to shoot her. Is that what you're saying?


"oh, no, people are dying!"

"buck up, pantywaist, that happens in war. don't lose sight of the goal, which is to FREE a PEOPLE from a DICTATORIAL REGIME."

We already freed the people. In case you didn't notice, we captured Saddam. Iraq surrendered. What war? What dictatorial regime is it now?

i agree with everything stated in that letter, it is a true conservatives letter to an arrogant woman who does not realise that her son did die for a noble cause.

Of course they are! Why shouldn't they be? Whats a couple of hundred people a day dying? :confused:Depends. The guys that work with a friend of mine in the Army are extremely happy to have the Americans there. But he suspects it has something to do with the fact that they're earning money off of us... :D

i agree with everything stated in that letter, it is a true conservatives letter to an arrogant woman who does not realise that her son did die for a noble cause.If the letter is real.
Now, he tells her she's distracting from what's important. What's that? The fact that her son died to defend her right to protest. How's that distracting from what's important?
If the letter is real.

Well I don't know how many Americans you know personally but I know some smart bastards. I think here we will just have to agree to disagree.

My evidence: Bush got re-elected.
And I'm not saying there aren't smart people, I work with physicists. But there are enough who just don't get it all.

My evidence: Bush got re-elected.
And I'm not saying there aren't smart people, I work with physicists. But there are enough who just don't get it all.


or we (the ones who would be smart enough to vote for a good candidate if there was actually one presented to us) just don't vote anymore because we don't think it will make a difference because of all the allegations of cheating (and proof provided such as a scrub list of predominantly black democrat voters) and the fact that both candidates are worthless/evil and will both eventually sell us out in one way or another.

we're fighting a war

do you get angry when the police don't tell you what leads they have and how they're investigating a crime?

yes, if the crime is supposedly committed by the police chief. For some semblance of propriety, the investigation should be public when it concerns public officials.

i agree with everything stated in that letter, it is a true conservatives letter to an arrogant woman who does not realise that her son did die for a noble cause.

Yes, she should be ashamed for not realizing that Halliburton's profits are in the nation's best interest!

he died so that the vast majority of Iraqis can be free from the wacko terrorist nut-jobs who oppressed them under Saddam.
Yeah, I mean, those religiously zealot terrorists always deal with the secular leaders they are fighting against. :rolleyes: Stupid sod.

And his shameless hippie mother is using his death to promote her I-Hate-America agenda. I am surprised she hasn't been gunned down yet... someone should remind her that she's not in Hollywood or the Sunni Triangle in Iraq (where she'd be much safer).
Drink the Kool-Aid and shut up. (http://www.gdnctr.com/list.htm)

*snip for nonsense*



I submit this:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/04/tillman.death/index.html

Pat Tillman gave up being a rich athlete and volunteers for the Army. He is killed by friendly fire (which happens way too friggin much in the US military) but his corpse was used as a propaganda bit to keep the recruitment up. They said he died heroically and all that horsehit.

When his father found out the truth, he too wanted answers. His father was ex-military as well if I recall. IS HE AN IDIOT TOO?

Now we have Mrs. Sheehan. Her son served little propaganda use while alive but he's supporting the state now as a shield to deflect her criticism. The state using a son's corpse against his own mother by saying he volunteered and therefore his life is forfeit for any reason they want so she has no right to complain.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE GOVERNMENT USE PAT TILLMAN AGAINST HIS OWN FATHER LIKE THAT I REALLY WOULD!

All there is to say, folks. :)

I agree. I couldn't have summarized the left's desperation to distort the truth better myself.

I agree. I couldn't have summarized the left's desperation to distort the truth better myself.So you're saying you couldn't have distorted the truth about the left's desperation any better? C'mon, give it a try...:D

its all so black and white with the shining knights of justice striking a blow into the heart of an evil and inhuman enemy.

How is it that individuals such as this can be allowed to wield the power that they do?

Good to see you understand that any/the president doesn't actually do anything himself. He didn't solely declare war (which he doesn't have power to), and thus doesn't solely deserve to be the aim of Sheehan's protest anyways. So thus she deserves a letter not solely written by him.

Actually, once he was given authorization by Congress, it was Bush's decision and Bush's decision alone to go to wat, which he stated would only be as a last resort. This, of course, was an unprecedented thing, and it scared the bejeezus out of a number of constitutionalists who weren't too busy rah rah rah-ing the war.

Well, I'm sure ANY mother would be proud to sacrifice her son for Iraqis. I mean the US might not be worth dying for, but Iraq surely is! ;)

And you're using his mother to promote your I-Hate-Democrats agenda. Meanwhile everyone feeding her attention is giving her what she wants.

I really wish people would think things through.


Yeah, someone needs to shoot her. Is that what you're saying?

We already freed the people. In case you didn't notice, we captured Saddam. Iraq surrendered. What war? What dictatorial regime is it now?

1)Freedom!

2)I don't hate democrats. I hate it when people try to sabotage a worthy cause.

3)No. I said I was surprised that (since she is in Texas, not Sunni Iraq where she might be more appreciated) she has not yet been shot.

4)In case you haven't noticed, the work isn't done yet. What are we supposed to do, leave the country and let the insurgency undo all the progress? Should we let them murder a few million more Shi'a and Kurds?

So you're saying you couldn't have distorted the truth about the left's desperation any better? C'mon, give it a try...:D

weak ;)

2)I don't hate democrats. I hate it when people try to sabotage a worthy cause.And I hate it when people think their cause is worthy because it's theirs. What's your point?

weak ;)Hey, I gotta work with the resources you give me. ;)

In case you haven't noticed, the work isn't done yet. What are we supposed to do, leave the country and let the insurgency undo all the progress? Should we let them murder a few million more Shi'a and Kurds?

Ohhh I see, the "job isn't over" speech. Makes it sound like occupation has a kind of work ethic to it. Invasion is progress. War is peace, slavery is freedom etc. ;)

When did it become the US's job to protect every nation from themselves? And if so, why are we only applying it to Iraq? And why is any of this such a noble cause... you assume the insurgency is there to murder Kurds, but what if it was just there to oust the invasion? Then you can't hold up millions of dead people as emotive justification for your "noble cause."

Bullshit he typed that. More like his wife, because he's too fucking stupid to even know what a fucking computer is. Figures he won't give this woman the time of day. What an idiot.

Ohhh I see, the "job isn't over" speech. Makes it sound like occupation has a kind of work ethic to it. Invasion is progress. War is peace, slavery is freedom etc. ;)

When did it become the US's job to protect every nation from themselves? And if so, why are we only applying it to Iraq? And why is any of this such a noble cause... you assume the insurgency is there to murder Kurds, but what if it was just there to oust the invasion? Then you can't hold up millions of dead people as emotive justification for your "noble cause."

Better yet, what about the country of Sudan in Africa? What about the nutcase rebel leader over there who's kidnapping small children (up to 10,000 a week, mind you), and recruiting them for his "God's Army" or some bullshit like that. By the time they turn 11, he's already made them kill thier entire families. And if they don't? Off goes your arm, lips, nose, ears, leg, penis, rape.....anything else that stands to unspeakable horror. What the fuck are we doing about that? What...sending bags of grain over with some pathetic 300 million dollar budget, when we're spending 400 billion on an unjust war in what used to be a stable country? Sure, Saddam was an asshole. Here's a fucking clue: the world is full of them! How about we go to Africa and take care of one more asshole?

Oh wait...I forgot...there's nothing over in Africa. No money...no oil...hmmmm, I see it now.

The policy of the US and it's current administration is absolutely sad and pathetic.

Based on the title of this thread, I thought Bush maybe let loose with a stream of wizz as his car passed her by. That's right up there with his usual rhetoric.

he died so that the vast majority of Iraqis can be free from the wacko terrorist nut-jobs who oppressed them under Saddam.
I thought the war was about WMD?

And his shameless hippie mother is using his death to promote her I-Hate-America agenda.
Did she say that she hates America?

I am surprised she hasn't been gunned down yet...
For speaking what is in her mind and heart? If you believe this, then you cannot believe that Americans are being killed in Iraq so that Iraqis can be "free"?

someone should remind her that she's not in Hollywood or the Sunni Triangle in Iraq (where she'd be much safer).
She would be safer in Hollywood or the Sunni Triangle? Nice slam on your own country there.

this is ending up just like the US Civil War and Vietnam... Democrats trying to sabotage the war effort the second things aren't peachy.
The Democrats tried to sabbotage the Civil War? As far as Vietnam is concerned, it was a war that really couldn't be won unless the US was willing to take on the Communists that were supporting the Viet Cong?

"oh, no, people are dying!"
In a war that didn't need to be fought.

"buck up, pantywaist, that happens in war. don't lose sight of the goal, which is to FREE a PEOPLE from a DICTATORIAL REGIME."
That was NOT the goal. That is the fall back position, when the ficticious WMD could not be located. Congress did NOT vote for regime change.

true, but a large portion of America wouldn't understand the reasoning even if Bill Clinton would get up there and say it. You must agree that the American populous is really stupid.
Pot calling the kettle black? "American populous" is incorrect. "Populous" is an adjective. You used it as a noun. It should be "populace". By the way, insulting an entire group of people really doesn't do much to advance an argument.

Pot calling the kettle black? "American populous" is incorrect. "Populous" is an adjective. You used it as a noun. It should be "populace". By the way, insulting an entire group of people really doesn't do much to advance an argument.Neither does correcting spelling...

Neither does correcting spelling...

What's worse? Broken spelling or broken ideas?

Yeah I love (not really) how our 'President' says generalized crap like "Pulling out now would weaken the United States", without offering an explanation on how it would do so. I would buy the "It would weaken Iraq" bit, but it would strengthen the U.S. from my perspective because we would have our families and friends back and more forces to defend the U.S. in case we were REALLY threatened by someone.

That's because whoever he's talking at, the people he's actually talking too are fundie leaning people who just like to think in terms of platitudes and think that resorting to facts and logic is somehow cheating or an effort to confuse people. You no, the sort of people who think that you're a hypocrite if you believe in food stamps, but not the violent overthrow of christianity and the capitalist system.

Bush's Letter to Cindy (http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/002289.html)

All there is to say, folks. :)
Wow--that's about the biggest crock of shit I've read all day. And I read a lot of shit.

what say you Bush? :eek:


Cindy's reply:

"This is the biggest smokescreen from him yet. I didn't ask him to withdraw the troops; I asked him, what 'noble cause' Casey died for. I am still waiting for one of the press corps to ask him that. I am still waiting for that answer.

First, we were told WMDs -- false. Then we were told Saddam=Osama -- false. Then we were told Saddam was a bad man to his own people and we had to get rid of him -- he's gone. Then we were told the Iraqi people had to have elections -- they did. Now we are spreading 'freedom and democracy' but we are building 14 permanent bases, some the size of Sacramento, California. To me that indicates that we are spreading the cancer of imperialism and usurping THEIR natural resources."

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/05/08/con05300.html

:p

*loves the drama*

he died so that the vast majority of Iraqis can be free from the wacko terrorist nut-jobs who oppressed them under Saddam. And his shameless hippie mother is using his death to promote her I-Hate-America agenda. I am surprised she hasn't been gunned down yet... someone should remind her that she's not in Hollywood or the Sunni Triangle in Iraq (where she'd be much safer).

this is ending up just like the US Civil War and Vietnam... Democrats trying to sabotage the war effort the second things aren't peachy. (remember, it was the repubs in favor of bringing the secessionists back into the US... the Dems didn't give a crap about slavery or the CSA).

"oh, no, people are dying!"

"buck up, pantywaist, that happens in war. don't lose sight of the goal, which is to FREE a PEOPLE from a DICTATORIAL REGIME."

Never mind, don't read this, someone already said it. =-) I'll delete it later.

BREAKING NEWS

You have to be the most ignorant person in the world to say that last line there. There are plenty of much worse DICTATORIAL REGIMES in the world, and things MUCH more horrible are happening in the world. Take a look at Uganda, Sudan and Nepal and the GENOCIDEs going on there. Why aren't we there? I would think preventing a genocide would be on the agenda if all we were looking to do is liberate people.

Now, let's get to the logic of why you decided that was the "goal" of the war. First off, you know that Iraq wasn't a threat to us at all, so you couldn't say it was to defend us. Second, you knew that the Iraqi war wasn't connected to the war on terror, so you couldn't say we were fighting the terrorists. So you took the old quote Republicans are handing out like old candy on Halloween. Do you see ANY logic there?

Let's not forget that the government has changed its reasons enough times to leave anyone without a doubt that the war is wrong, or they would not have to justify it so much.

Well said and well taken. Though I propose part of the problem is that America, on the whole, is not smart enough to choose a good president.



Its easy to look at our douchebag of a president and think that we all must be as equally dumb if we elected him, but you obviously know knothing of how such a man can get the job he has.
Its actually a very complicated process of lies and deciet.

As Americans, we are given a few issues wich are important to us, and that candidate takes a stand on those few issues.
Our opinions are swayed by those stances.

Its only later, that we realize we were again lied to, and those issues will not be adressed, so that our new leader, can wage his own personal agenda.

Dont blame us...blame those people who dont care enough about our country, and wish to topple third world nations for profit.