NationStates Jolt Archive

seeing someone else make a thread like this I thought I'd post my ideas:

- all but dangerous/highly addictive drugs be made legal

- the NHS will make the sick/injured pay a small amount of the bill if it was something stupid e.g. making a cement angel

- people who pass university will get 2 votes

- military service instead of light prison sentence

- more P.E will be taught in school to lower obesity rates

- public transport will be made more desirable for the public

- caravan ownership without a home will be banned (gypsy's cost the government money that's a FACT)

- instead of German Spanish will be taught in school (2nd most spoken language in world)

- language classes will begin in lower school

- a united Europe will be encouraged

- internet usage will be monitored in an attempt to stop paedophiles/terrorists

- party's will not be allowed to except donations instead they will be paid by the government (that will be monitored of course)

- T.V licence will be abolished

- the ban on fox hunting will be lifted

- Free condoms to be placed in commercial buildings

so do tell of the problems of my suggestions

- people who pass university will get 2 votes
Why is that?

Facism!!!

Sounds a lot like China. In other words, crap.

seeing someone else make a thread like this I thought I'd post my ideas:

- all but dangerous/highly addictive drugs be made legal

define. Or shut up.

-the NHS will make the sick/injured pay a small amount of the bill if it was something stupid e.g. making a cement angel

I'd go for all, but its a good start

- people who pass university will get 2 votes

I'd just take the vote off the people who don't, but Blair saw me coming with his ridiculous targets

- military service instead of light prison sentence

Yes.

- more P.E will be taught in school to lower obesity rates

Fat kids still run slow/skive off/ just don't do it

- public transport will be made more desirable for the public

Wow. how do you come up with this vague stuff?

- caravan ownership without a home will be banned (gypsy's cost the government money that's a FACT)

yeah, nobody ever breeaks the law, especially gypsies

- instead of German Spanish will be taught in school (2nd most spoken language in world)

I don't really care about this one.

- language classes will begin in lower school

Not a bad idea, I just don't care, again.

- a united Europe will be encouraged

Why? We don't need to do this.

- internet usage will be monitored in an attempt to stop paedophiles/terrorists

And the atttempt fails miserably, wasting hundreds of millions of pounds

- party's will not be allowed to except donations instead they will be paid by the government (that will be monitored of course)

No possible way this could ever go wrong...

- T.V licence will be abolished

that's just silly. No adverts makes the BBC rule

- the ban on fox hunting will be lifted

Don't care about fox hunting

- Free condoms to be placed in commercial buildings

Right, okay. Roll on more teen pregnancy and STI's, because people aren't taught how to use the damn things.

Some nice dreams here, but they're pipe dreams.

Why is that?

because generally university students have a better understanding of issues this would help in making laws that aren’t good in the short term e.g. congestion charge

I’m not German so take criticism with a grain of salt.

Stuff I like:
- all but dangerous/highly addictive drugs be made legal
- the ban on fox hunting will be lifted
Liberty. :D

Stuff I am puzzled about:
- instead of German Spanish will be taught in school (2nd most spoken language in world)
Why not Mandarin or English?
- T.V licence will be abolished
I don't know what that is.

Stuff I think the government has no place in:
- the NHS will make the sick/injured pay a small amount of the bill if it was something stupid e.g. making a cement angel
I don't beleive in public healthcare, period.
- public transport will be made more desirable for the public
While there should be some, I think y'all already have enough.
- Free condoms to be placed in commercial buildings
Don't think the government should go there.
- more P.E will be taught in school to lower obesity rates
School should be about learning.

Scary/oppressive stuff:- people who pass university will get 2 votes
- military service instead of light prison sentence
- caravan ownership without a home will be banned (gypsy's cost the government money that's a FACT)
- internet usage will be monitored in an attempt to stop paedophiles/terrorists
- party's will not be allowed to except donations instead they will be paid by the government (that will be monitored of course)
You don’t honestly see how all that stuff would lead to more government control over your life?

Stuff I don’t care about.
- language classes will begin in lower school
- a united Europe will be encouraged

Sounds a lot like China. In other words, crap.

explain further please

What do you consider light prison services by the way?

I’m not German so take criticism with a grain of salt.



Neither is CTP (I don't think)

explain further please
China is authoritarian. Authoritarian is bad. Freedom is good.

define. Or shut up.

(How would you define that more?)



Fat kids still run slow/skive off/ just don't do it

the point is if there taught early they will be concerned about there health


yeah, nobody ever breeaks the law, especially gypsies

the reason is Gypsy's don't earn much if anything so they are more likely to resort to crime



Why? We don't need to do this.

a united Europe is good in the sense that America won't be the only superpower


And the atttempt fails miserably, wasting hundreds of millions of pounds

how would it fail?



Right, okay. Roll on more teen pregnancy and STI's, because people aren't taught how to use the damn things.

condoms do have an instruction manual for....well idiots

What do you consider light prison services by the way?

something along the lines of 12 months

I'm English (just if anyone wanted to know)

something along the lines of 12 months

I'm English (just if anyone wanted to know)

Ok I just wanted to make sure that any of those who are convicted for violent crimes arent given military service as a punishment

something along the lines of 12 months

I'm English (just if anyone wanted to know)
Ah, I see. You were talking about German as a second language. Got it.

What I would change in the US

-Porportional elections for House of representatives

-Congress would have the power to write opinions superior to the supreme court by a two-thirds Majority of both houses

-Campaigns could petition the government for subsidies.

-Private Social Security accounts

-School Vouchers

-free or drastically reduced medical care should be available for everyone

-free or drastically reduced college education should be available for everyone

-give the judge the right to cap the amount payable to lawyers in litigation cases

-fiscal responsibility board would be instituted to regulate fiscal economic policy in Congress (government would be forced to run surpluses in good times, and allowed deficits in bad).

-abolish the death penalty (I am not completely against the death penalty, but the death penalty system we have sucks)

-Government would institute taxes on production of greenhouse gasses and pollutants (environment should not just be for the taking).

-Government would not institute illegal tarrifs (;) to Canadians).

-Capital gains is income; tax it like it is.

-Every politican would see that high oil and gas prices are GOOD for America long-term.

-Congress would mandate a timetable for complete withdrawal from Iraq (the key word here is complete; timetable should adjust to changing conditions)

I actually like most of your ideas but I wouldn't give university students two votes, just the people who go to school and pass elementary school, I think its a good idea!! lol

Second prisoners that do violent crimes will not be executed or given life sentence I will use them for slave labor and beat every ounce of money I can out of the rapists, and murderors

Make drugs legal but tariff the heck out of them, come on everyone knows that people aren't listening to those laws so we might as well make it expensive as hell

Prisoners who do minor crimes will be forced to do manuel and humiliating labor such as scrubbing the sewars or transporting the dung!!! ;)

I will have no pity on terriorist they again will be used for slave labor and then :sniper: shot when they cannot be used anymore, grr any damn terriorist who attacks my country shall pay!!!

Internet is just way to big to be controlled so I don't know how much effect anything can be done on this except for the fact that if someone sends out spawn mail or porno or something disgusting, privacy is screwed and I will track them all the way to their computer and fine them heavily

Lets see... oh yes I try not to get involved with any other nations except to occasionally exchange technology and invite foreign scientist, artists and writers so they can exchange theories with my scientists, artists and writers

Hmmm oh yes I would also support the enviroment over big businesses due to the fact buisinesses can be replaced way easier then the rain forest...

And limit the amount of oil bought from other nations that way I can force people to start looking for better and cleaner sources of fuel such as wind, water, solar or nuclear

Thats about it...

1. All children will be subjected to a hybrid of educational facilities that will be a mix of college, bootcamp, and public school. (I'd rather not detail how, but there is a great way to impliment it I simply don't want to give you my friggin ideas.) A mandatory series of classes that will be given is education in Republic principles. I am tired of seeing so many damned Americans ignorant in how this country runs. Its just ridiculous.

2. An independent organization should be created to preform two functions. 1. Review all political officals of corruption or abuses of power and hold them if they are suspected of such abuses. 2. Guide or advise politicians of legal issues to prevent them from saying "i didn't know it was illegal". I'd call it Jedi just for Star Wars kicking so much ass.

3. Abolish the FDA, ATF, and FTC.

4. Withdraw from the UN.

5. Cease foreign aid.

6. Abolish or withdraw from NAFTA.

- all but dangerous/highly addictive drugs be made legal
Higher addiction rate. Many of those drugs are gateway drugs to dangerous/highly addictve drugs. If you want to put a tax on them, you'll still have smuggling.

- the NHS will make the sick/injured pay a small amount of the bill if it was something stupid e.g. making a cement angel
I'm not sure, but do you mean the National Honors Society?

- people who pass university will get 2 votes

Educated people are more entitled to have an opinion?

- military service instead of light prison sentence

Looks like we'll have a very loyal military! I personally think we should privitize prisons and force them to do factory work. To prevent abuse of prisoners, weekly gov't inspections.

- public transport will be made more desirable for the public

How? Public transport is used in Urban areas extensively

- instead of German Spanish will be taught in school (2nd most spoken language in world)

It hsould be a choice of what language you learn

- language classes will begin in lower school

Won't work, unless the students actively want to learn the language

- internet usage will be monitored in an attempt to stop paedophiles/terrorist

Big Brother is watching

- party's will not be allowed to except donations instead they will be paid by the government (that will be monitored of course)

Higher taxes. And I cant chose where my money goes!

- the ban on fox hunting will be lifted

Killing for sheer sport?

- Free condoms to be placed in commercial buildings

That's something the government should spend money on! (rolls eyes)

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-Congress would have the power to write opinions superior to the supreme court by a two-thirds Majority of both houses
Violates Check and Balance system

-Campaigns could petition the government for subsidies.

That's where our tax money should go? What if the majorit party only allows payment to members of the same party?

-School Vouchers

That leads to gov't control of private schools. Pisses of private school teachers.

-free or drastically reduced medical care should be available for everyone

And we pay for this how?

-free or drastically reduced college education should be available for everyone

And we pay for this how? And colleges do not want to be regulated by the gov't. ALso removes competition.

-Congress would mandate a timetable for complete withdrawal from Iraq (the key word here is complete; timetable should adjust to changing conditions)

Timetable would not work. It'd be completely arbitrary. We need to stabilize (haha) Iraq first.

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1. All children will be subjected to a hybrid of educational facilities that will be a mix of college, bootcamp, and public school. (I'd rather not detail how, but there is a great way to impliment it I simply don't want to give you my friggin ideas.) A mandatory series of classes that will be given is education in Republic principles. I am tired of seeing so many damned Americans ignorant in how this country runs. Its just ridiculous.

I think Gov't and American History are already required of High School students... not entirely sure about gov't though.

2. An independent organization should be created to preform two functions. 1. Review all political officals of corruption or abuses of power and hold them if they are suspected of such abuses. 2. Guide or advise politicians of legal issues to prevent them from saying "i didn't know it was illegal". I'd call it Jedi just for Star Wars kicking so much ass.

What if this organisation gets corrupted? Dont we already have option to recall?

3. Abolish the FDA, ATF, and FTC.

FDA,that's the Food and Drug Administration? You do realize the consequences? It can result in people dying/getting sick... I think the FDA should be strengthened.

4. Withdraw from the UN.

Nice to see you want to work things out with countries before they materialize into conflicts

5. Cease foreign aid.

It's good to see that you are compassionate

6. Abolish or withdraw from NAFTA.

Why?

- language classes will begin in lower school

Won't work, unless the students actively want to learn the language

Why not? We start studying the first foreign language at the age of 9. The second when we're 13 and the third (optional) at the age of 14 (fourth, fifth etc 16->)

- the NHS will make the sick/injured pay a small amount of the bill if it was something stupid e.g. making a cement angel
I'm not sure, but do you mean the National Honors Society?

The National Health Service in the UK.

I think Gov't and American History are already required of High School students... not entirely sure about gov't though.

The system we have now is on the verge of breaking in some states. Our education system is frankly appauling in some areas. So if you don't know why I am bringing this up. Don't worry about it. I live in one of those area's that need drastic change.

What if this organisation gets corrupted? Dont we already have option to recall?

They won't be made up of politicians. I would recommend it would be composed of American history/government/law professors, thinkers, and other types of intelligent members who are aware and educated in the Constitution, Republican principles, and political system/behaviors. Not someone who is swayed by party propaganda and such. As for corruption, it can have rules to harshly punish its own members.

FDA,that's the Food and Drug Administration? You do realize the consequences? It can result in people dying/getting sick... I think the FDA should be strengthened.

That's because you don't know **** about what has been happening with that organization's political corruption. I can't do anything for you if your uninformed. Just stop popping pills, eating junk food, processed food, and try to figure out why there are so many drug commercials when the news is on that didn't used to be necessary during the 80's.

Nice to see you want to work things out with countries before they materialize into conflicts

I don't want us to be interventionalist anymore. We are getting boned hard. We need to think of ourselves more and pulling out of the UN will remove us from foriegn conflicts like Somolia, Bosnia, and etc.

It's good to see that you are compassionate

Its good to see you like throwing away money. If you want to give money to foreign causes, YOU give money from your pocket. Stop wasting my damned tax payer money. I want us to use it to remove the debt, and get to space.

Why?

We are getting the shaft. Trading with Canada is cool and all, Mexico's ****ing goverment is so bad however we might as well be using our money to wipe our ass and for chimeny fires.

(How would you define that more?)

You have to say precisely what makes a drug harmful. Where is the line?



the point is if there taught early they will be concerned about there health

This argument doesn't really work. People still smoke, knowing its harmful.


the reason is Gypsy's don't earn much if anything so they are more likely to resort to crime

So you plan to make them homeless??



a united Europe is good in the sense that America won't be the only superpower

So you think Europe should be a single country, ruled by a president? Do you not realise how insane that sounds?


how would it fail?


By not working


condoms do have an instruction manual for....well idiots

So? There are still people that don't know how to use one. ANd how many people, especially young people, are going to sit there and say: "Excuse me, girl, I'd like to fuck you but I have to read this instruction manual first"

Jeez, honestly.

- people who pass university will get 2 votes

If your society doesn't like cleaners, refuse collectors and factory workers, and only has doctors and lawyers, it's going to be a pretty huge failure, I can tell you.

If your society doesn't like cleaners, refuse collectors and factory workers, and only has doctors and lawyers, it's going to be a pretty huge failure, I can tell you.
Ditto, The rest of your crazy crazy schemes can thankfully be tempered by an equitable government and democratic rule, but making the assumption that a University Education automatically makes you a responsible and civic minded individual is to say the least reckless.
Particularily in the case of countries where third level education is not paid for by the government. In such a state, only the privileged get to college, therefore only the privileged get the vote, and then the HUGE leap of logic is made that these people (belonging to the minority I add) will make decisions in the best interests of the state rather than in the best interests of a meritocratic elite. (And no, a meritocracy is not as good in reality as the ideal, your 'merit' is not always illustrated by your wage packet as countless uncontrollable factors can get in the way of you demonstrating your merit)
This meritocratic criterion is darwinian in the extreme, evolution is a good thing, but woefully inefficient, as all too many dinosaurs could tell you, had a friek accident not wiped them out.
(Seems a non-sequitor, but similar events, beyond the control of an individual, can prevent them getting to college. i.e. being born in the 'wrong' family, with not enough money to afford a college education.)

Even if you make college free, those who go on to do it will be of a particular sociological mindset, which given more votes, will perpetuate that mindset, not necessarily in the interests of the majority.

And as for the language thing, just because a language is spoken by alot of people globally does not mean you're going to encounter that language often in your day to day life, better to be educated in a language which allows you to make economic gains through improved trade relations, i.e. German French, Japanese, English, and increasingly Mandarin.

Why not? We start studying the first foreign language at the age of 9. The second when we're 13 and the third (optional) at the age of 14 (fourth, fifth etc 16->)

It doesnt matter how long you learn a language for. Its more a case of how much effort you put in learning the grammar, etc and being able to remember it after long time periods

What would I change in Spain?

-I would create independent media, TV and press.

-I would end with all the real-state middlemans who make the house prizes grow and grow without control. That maffia is above the government, dont matter the political sign.

-For light crimes, I would improve the educational sentences instead of enjailment.

-I would abolish the taxes on music, books, etc...

I don't like this one bit. United Europe? Youve lost me there... some of your other suggestions would have been very good ... but no ... not now *runs off*

- all but dangerous/highly addictive drugs be made legal

Define, dangerous/highly addictive drugs

- the NHS will make the sick/injured pay a small amount of the bill if it was something stupid e.g. making a cement angel

Interesting, but sounds like fun

- people who pass university will get 2 votes

A good idea

- military service instead of light prison sentence

And another one

- more P.E will be taught in school to lower obesity rates

Should work, good idea.

- public transport will be made more desirable for the public

How?

- caravan ownership without a home will be banned (gypsy's cost the government money that's a FACT)

Like that would work

- instead of German Spanish will be taught in school (2nd most spoken language in world)

Already taught Spanish not German so.......

[- a united Europe will be encouraged

WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!

- internet usage will be monitored in an attempt to stop paedophiles/terrorists

That would not work, and would be a waste of the Governments Money

- the ban on fox hunting will be lifted

Go home.


Thats the ones I could give my opinion on without thinking too hard (just woken up.)

But what about creating the British Empire once again. :p

- caravan ownership without a home will be banned (gypsy's cost the government money that's a FACT)



I know lots of people who travel around working on building sites and don't own homes but instead have a caravan, they pay taxes and national insurance, and they only park their caravans on private land (With permission of course). These people are not costing the government anything!

1. I'd replace the government by a single person who'd be given the title of 'Evil Overlord'.

2. I'd turn the rest of the population into brainwashed slaves.

3. Oh, of course the only one elegible for the position of Evil Overlord would be me. Duh! ;-)

What a bunch of whishy washy things to change, I am guessing this is a "things I would change in my country to suit me" because it doesn't seem any real thought has gone into what you are trying to do, the ideas are mere aesthetic changes.

I like the idea of unbanning fox hunting though. But I don't think it goes far enough, I think it should also be legal to hunt humans in the same way, take your homeless people, drop em in the woods, then chase after them for several hours then feed em to the dogs, foxes aren't the only pests in the UK after all, you could do the same to terrorists and illegal immigrants, people who are unemployed for more than six months. They need to be removed, they're just pests after all, plus it's a big win for the countryside economy, all those people looking after horses, and dogs, and stuff.

**snip**

I like the way you think (or, to put it another way, d00d, you stole my post and put your name on it. ;) )


But what about creating the British Empire once again. :p

Well, the rest of the world might have a problem with this.

Diplomacy, GWB style!

I like the way you think (or, to put it another way, d00d, you stole my post and put your name on it. ;) )

lol thnx


Well, the rest of the world might have a problem with this.

Diplomacy, GWB style!

Ah well

- all but dangerous/highly addictive drugs be made legal

It'd be better if all drugs were inspected by the government, with strict regulations in place, so they're safe for everyone.

- the NHS will make the sick/injured pay a small amount of the bill if it was something stupid e.g. making a cement angel

...

- people who pass university will get 2 votes

N-O, NO.

- military service instead of light prison sentence

Yeah, send a guy off where he might get killed, just for stealing something. Yeah.

- more P.E will be taught in school to lower obesity rates

I have to agree with this one. There was P.E. in all of my elementary schools, and there were very few fat kids.

- public transport will be made more desirable for the public

Oooookaaaaay...

- caravan ownership without a home will be banned (gypsy's cost the government money that's a FACT)

More Gypsy hate, I see.

- instead of German Spanish will be taught in school (2nd most spoken language in world)

It would make more sense to have the language of the country that you share borders with as a second language, not a country that's thousands of kilometres/miles away.

- language classes will begin in lower school

Can't argue with this.

- a united Europe will be encouraged

Depends on your definition of "united"... So far, this seems a bit Fascist.

- internet usage will be monitored in an attempt to stop paedophiles/terrorists

Yeah, and while we're at it, let's monitor how much oxygen each citizen breathes, then charge them an incremental tax if they go over the "limit". Great thinking, there!

- party's will not be allowed to except donations instead they will be paid by the government (that will be monitored of course)

I agree with this. Political contributions are nothing short of vote buying.

- T.V licence will be abolished

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this...

- the ban on fox hunting will be lifted

If they're not endagered, I don't see why not...

- Free condoms to be placed in commercial buildings

Siiiiiiiick. What the fuck are people doing in said commercial buildings!?

- all but dangerous/highly addictive drugs be made legal

Why not also the highly dangerous/addictive ones? Also, many would argue that this is the situation already.

making a cement angel

Tubular! I've gotta try that some time.


- people who pass university will get 2 votes


No. University students may be more learned, but that certainly doesn't make them any more politically right than uneducated lay-hobos. Hitler and Stalin were clever, but they sucked.


- military service instead of light prison sentence


This would be dodgy. They'd all run away or start fighting for the enemy. I'd support the unpaid, mandatory civillian labour of prisoners though.


- more P.E will be taught in school to lower obesity rates


Kind of a waste of money. Let fat people be fat if they want to.


- public transport will be made more desirable for the public


That's pretty general.


- caravan ownership without a home will be banned (gypsy's cost the government money that's a FACT)


Why make them homeless? Homeless people would probably be more likely to commit unsavoury acts than caravan owners. As for the government money, how about we just don't give them it?


- instead of German Spanish will be taught in school (2nd most spoken language in world)


They do teach spanish in some British secondary schools.


- language classes will begin in lower school


Why?


- a united Europe will be encouraged


A united Europe would try and make us do all kinds of silly things. I think it's best that we make our own laws where possible.


- internet usage will be monitored in an attempt to stop paedophiles/terrorists


This is a liberty vs. security issue, and it's pretty much just a matter of personal conviction. I reckon people's privacy is marginally more important than efforts to stop illegal actions, so I'd say nope.


- party's will not be allowed to except donations instead they will be paid by the government (that will be monitored of course)


So surely the party in power will fund itself five times better than all others. That's not very democratic.


- T.V licence will be abolished

- the ban on fox hunting will be lifted


Yeah these are both good.


- Free condoms to be placed in commercial buildings


Commercial buildings? Like banks and offices? No but seriously, condom subsidization is way expensive and would require a big ol' tax increase.