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Another question for feminists (about pornography)

Chomskyrion
22-08-2005, 03:26
Pornography involving dominatrixes. Good or bad?

I mean, sure, it's pornography, but it's female dominance. That's a good thing, right?!
THE LOST PLANET
22-08-2005, 03:28
Dude, I think your definition of feminist is slightly skewed.
Chomskyrion
22-08-2005, 03:32
Dude, I think your definition of feminist is slightly skewed.
In America, feminists oppose pornography, because they say that it objectifies women and encourages rape.

But a guy that's into being submissive is going to be misogynist, because of a gender-based inferiority complex. He'll feel like women are superior to all men, or at least him. So, there's no way dominatrix porn could contribute to rape or sexism.

What's a guy going to do? Kidnap a girl, then demand that she handcuff him and beat him?
THE LOST PLANET
22-08-2005, 03:42
In America, feminists oppose pornography, because they say that it objectifies women and encourages rape.

But a guy that's into being submissive is going to be misogynist, because of a gender-based inferiority complex. He'll feel like women are superior to all men, or at least him. So, there's no way dominatrix porn could contribute to rape or sexism.

What's a guy going to do? Kidnap a girl, then demand that she handcuff him and beat him?Still don't get it do you.

I was refering to your statement that female dominance is a good thing.
Spherical Cows
22-08-2005, 03:48
In America, feminists oppose pornography, because they say that it objectifies women and encourages rape.

Not all feminists believe that. Certainly not all the feminists in all the countries in the Americas.
Chomskyrion
22-08-2005, 04:16
Still don't get it do you.

I was refering to your statement that female dominance is a good thing.
Uhhhh...

Yeah, while feminists don't necessarily SUPPORT feminist dominance, they obviously don't OPPOSE it, either.
Zagat
22-08-2005, 04:17
I have no particular problem with pornography.
THE LOST PLANET
22-08-2005, 04:19
Uhhhh...

Yeah, while feminists don't necessarily SUPPORT feminist dominance, they obviously don't OPPOSE it, either.
Your skewed perception still comes through in your posts.


Why exactly is it obvious...
Neaness
22-08-2005, 04:23
In my experience, for every feminist who denounces porn as degrading, there's another feminist who praises it for being empowering.

Me personally? I'm not into female domination, but that's more cuz I'd ... err... can't really elaborate without risking getting banned. And it could stand to have more attractive men, but I don't have a problem with porn in general.



And I definitely don't have 16 MB of porn that I downloaded before I was of legal age. *shifty eyes*
Chomskyrion
22-08-2005, 04:34
Your skewed perception still comes through in your posts.


Why exactly is it obvious...
Because feminists generally only oppose anti-female sexism, never anti-male sexism.

Hence, FEMINISM.
Zagat
22-08-2005, 04:41
Because feminists generally only oppose anti-female sexism, never anti-male sexism.

Hence, FEMINISM.
Er, no actually.
Neaness
22-08-2005, 04:42
Because feminists generally only oppose anti-female sexism, never anti-male sexism.

Hence, FEMINISM.


Not always true. I'm a walking example.
Relative Power
22-08-2005, 04:44
And I definitely don't have 16 MB of porn that I downloaded before I was of legal age. *shifty eyes*

Only got a computer the day before your birthday that year huh
Free Soviets
22-08-2005, 04:53
In America, feminists oppose pornography

incorrect

add a 'some' maybe. but the anti-porn feminists do not have a monopoly on the movement.
Neaness
22-08-2005, 04:53
Only got a computer the day before your birthday that year huh

Errr.... yeeeeeeesssss.
Americai
22-08-2005, 05:07
Pornography involving dominatrixes. Good or bad?

I mean, sure, it's pornography, but it's female dominance. That's a good thing, right?!

They loathe like porn from what I recall. Hell they probably PMS a little when a man touches his wang.
Spherical Cows
22-08-2005, 05:56
Okay, lumping all feminists together is like lumping all "religious" people together or lumping all "political" people together. Doing so generally reveals the "lumper" as misinformed and inclined to oversimplification, and any claims you make based on inaccurate assumptions are likely to be hopelessly flawed as well.
UpwardThrust
22-08-2005, 06:53
In America, feminists oppose pornography, because they say that it objectifies women and encourages rape.

But a guy that's into being submissive is going to be misogynist, because of a gender-based inferiority complex. He'll feel like women are superior to all men, or at least him. So, there's no way dominatrix porn could contribute to rape or sexism.

What's a guy going to do? Kidnap a girl, then demand that she handcuff him and beat him?
Who is they? ... again I have a feeling media portrayal of them have skwewd your perspective a smigen
Neaness
22-08-2005, 07:23
Lest anyone else think that there are no feminists who support porn:

A quick overview of three feminist points of view, including pro-porn (http://caxton.stockton.edu/PC3/stories/storyReader$3)

A thoroughly pro-porn feminist article (http://www.counterpunch.org/hartley02022005.html)

(Mods: There are no pictures on either of these pages. However, if the subject matter is too racy, let me know ASAP and I'll remove this post)
Helioterra
22-08-2005, 07:36
Not always true. I'm a walking example.
Another one over here.
Volksnation
22-08-2005, 07:51
I'm a humanist. I'm for equal rights for men AND women...

Porn is fine with me, any kind :p
[NS]Amestria
22-08-2005, 08:50
Pornography involving dominatrixes. Good or bad?

I mean, sure, it's pornography, but it's female dominance. That's a good thing, right?!

Pornography is pornography, it can be healthy or perverse, theres nothing more to it. Let it be left up to the individual...
[NS]Amestria
22-08-2005, 08:57
Because feminists generally only oppose anti-female sexism, never anti-male sexism.

Hence, FEMINISM.

How old are you? Have you ever had an actual conversation with a women? Where is all this hate and rage comming from, did a girl beat you up when you where little.... I mean, geez...
Lycanthrope Sisterhood
22-08-2005, 09:01
The only thing I will say is that some of you have a very very VERY strange idea of what women are and what they are about....