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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/19/213618/304

This may sound terribly tinfoil-hat of me, but I think there's something uncomfortably improbable about this:

a) A major figure in the civil rights movement.

b) The mother of a major figure in the peace movement.

c) The leading D in the Senate.

All suffering strokes of one degree or another, within a few days of each other.

At very least, a few things deserve to be looked into, to put this issue to rest one way or the other.


Are there any known means of inducing a stroke, either by some kind of drugs or toxins, or by other means such as focused microwave radiation directed toward the target?


Were there any irregular activities noted in the vicinity of all of these individuals? Any suspicious patterns?


Comparisons with statistical probabilities among equivalent demographic groups, and then comparisons between both the individuals above and comparable individuals on the other side of the fence.


Stroke should be normally distributed with respect to political affiliation, so there should be no difference between incidence among dissidents or opponents of the regime, and incidence among supporters of the regime.

What we should see if everything's normal, is that there is a statistically insignificant difference between the cases above, and a corresponding set of cases from the right wing. For example, where there three (plus or minus statistical variance) strokes among families prominent on the right during the same time?

I'm not saying a-priori that Karl Rove's Masked Men are sneaking around beaming microwaves into the brains of dissidents. Generally I dismiss conspiracy theories as so much BS.

What I do see here is what appears to be a "cluster" of cases among people who are in the position to cause serious trouble for the Regime. And "clusters" are, in public health, always a reason for at least taking a closer look.



Awww, this gets better every week.

Yes, we Republicans admit to it: We used our evil telekinetic powers to confound Reid to the point he had a stroke :D

Well, its not like this is below the Republicans.

I mean, they have used assasination before to get rid of political opponents.

*coughJFKcough*

It's people like that who make us left-wingers look bad.


co·in·ci·dence
n.
1. The state or fact of occupying the same relative position or area in space.
2. A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.

Well, its not like this is below the Republicans.

I mean, they have used assasination before to get rid of political opponents.

*coughJFKcough*



I wish all Libs thought like you, debates would be much easier :)

It is pretty strange, and worth looking into. I mean that's three people who were quite inconveinient to the Republican party and Bush administration, and all three had strokes within days of each other? It's just a little too conveinient.

I say we need an autopsy on each of them, see if there is evidence of foul play. A general investigation couldn't hurt either.

Well, its not like this is below the Republicans.

I mean, they have used assasination before to get rid of political opponents.

*coughJFKcough*
Don't forget MLK and RFK and Jimmy Carter's credibility, and Michael Moore's Slim Figure. WE are to blame for all. :rolleyes:

Well, its not like this is below the Republicans.

I mean, they have used assasination before to get rid of political opponents.

*coughJFKcough*

Dude, JFK was offed by LBJ. Dem-on-dem fratricide is much more common. I think Reid's stroke probably came from trying to hold too many contradictory "Facts" in a single mind, a disease common among politicians on both sides of the aisle... that, and he didn't smoke enough, so his nerves were frazzled. :p

It is pretty strange, and worth looking into. I mean that's three people who were quite inconveinient to the Republican party and Bush administration, and all three had strokes within days of each other? It's just a little too conveinient.

I say we need an autopsy on each of them, see if there is evidence of foul play. A general investigation couldn't hurt either.An autopsy? WTF?

An autopsy? WTF?



It was sarcasm lol.

It was sarcasm lol.
I know, I'm just saying what need for an autopsy? They all were murdered by the Bushies!!!! :eek:

Wow, they are passing off this garbage everywhere.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1713959&mesg_id=1713988

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1713959#1713988

Yes, we Republicans admit to it: We used our evil telekinetic powers to confound Reid to the point he had a stroke :D
She confessed! :p

Wow, they are passing off this garbage everywhere.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1713959&mesg_id=1713988

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1713959#1713988



Any sensible person knows to disregard anything DU says. Don't let their illogical screed get to you.

Random quotes from the DU and DK isn't a sampling of what leftists think. You know that's a logical fallacy.

Random rightwing quote:

There is only one way to look at this:

If you are a Muslim and a policeman tells you to stop, it might cross your mind to keep on walking.

If you do, the next thing to cross your mind could well be a bullet.

Moral of the story: convert to Christianity. Make the world a better place.

Ahah! All right wingers believe that muslims should be killed unless they convert to christianity!

Random quotes from the DU and KOS are a sample of Leftwing wingnut opinon, nothing more.

Random quotes from the DU and KOS are a sample of Leftwing wingnut opinon, nothing more.
So random quotes from LGF and RN are a sample of rightwing wingnut opinion? I'd rather take conspiracy theories then out and out threats of murder any day.

I think there's something uncomfortably improbable about thisthe article quoted at the beginning of this thread says at the beginning that it's improbable. It sure is

So random quotes from LGF and RN are a sample of rightwing wingnut opinion? I'd rather take conspiracy theories then out and out threats of murder any day.
What kind of garbage are you spewing today?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/19/213618/304

Awww, this gets better every week.
Oh, for crying out loud! I wish every friutcake with a conspiracy theory would drop dead of a stroke! Right fucking NOW! Jeeze.

Did you hear they caught Bigfoot? I bet Bush put him in the wilderness to kill liberals.

It is pretty strange, and worth looking into. I mean that's three people who were quite inconvenient to the Republican party and Bush administration, and all three had strokes within days of each other? It's just a little too convenient.

I say we need an autopsy on each of them, see if there is evidence of foul play. A general investigation couldn't hurt either.Probably its just a rare coincidence...but I would not mind an Autopsy and an independent investigation...

I mean...Why not?

Random quotes from the DU and KOS are a sample of Leftwing wingnut opinon, nothing more.Mebbe, but we left wingers don't just contain wingnuts in our wide array of opinions.

What kind of garbage are you spewing today?
" There is only one way to look at this:

If you are a Muslim and a policeman tells you to stop, it might cross your mind to keep on walking.

If you do, the next thing to cross your mind could well be a bullet.

Moral of the story: convert to Christianity. Make the world a better place."

Probably its just a rare coincidence...but I would not mind an Autopsy and an independent investigation...

I mean...Why not? :)

Oh, for crying out loud! I wish every friutcake with a conspiracy theory would drop dead of a stroke! Right fucking NOW! Jeeze.

*has stroke*

Damnit. :(

It was me, actually. Which sucks for everyone involved, because I'm not even a Republican.

Incidentally, what Reid had wasn't even a true stroke.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/19/213618/304



Awww, this gets better every week.
You need to get the terminology straight--wingnuts are from the right wing. Liberals are moonbats. Get it correct next time. :rolleyes:

One other thing about that original post--it was the second comment on a thread that was about well-wishes for both Harry Reid and Coretta Scott King, and the comment received 32 ratings, none from me, although I can tell you what I would have rated such an idiotic comment.

At Kos, if you're a member, you get to rate comments from 0-4, with 0 being "troll" and 4 being "excellent." This user received 32 comments with an average rating of 2.15. I looked at the ratings, and they were mostly 2 and below, with some 4's thrown in there--as some of the lower comments noted--because they thought the zeroes weren't warranted. In short, the 4's were balancers, not agreement.

You can tell more about how most members felt about the comment if you read the comments below it--there were a couple of people who agreed it was possible, but most didn't.

And by the way, any time you want to put the comments of Kos members up against the comments from mouth-breathers at the Free Republic or Little Green Footballs, I'm ready.

I thought "wingnut" was a term for someone in the airforce or something along those lines.

Anyway - although i wouldn't put it past a powerful republican or democrat or anyone else with an agenda to try and kill someone that is in their way- this is probably just coincidence.

who knows but this idiotic bashing of the entire left for something said by one guy with a conspiracy theory is just plain sad.

i'm sorry for you and your inability to see a bigger picture. once again i feel compelled to tell a conservative with a plank in his eye that the world is not so black and white.

try to spread some peace and understanding for once.

the end

amen

Om

Yes, we Republicans admit to it: We used our evil telekinetic powers to confound Reid to the point he had a stroke :D

I thought this was going to be about Tara Reid. I'm honestly not sure whether the actual post is a step up or a step down. :confused:

And by the way, any time you want to put the comments of Kos members up against the comments from mouth-breathers at the Free Republic or Little Green Footballs, I'm ready.
Indeed, Freepers are easily twice as crazy as DU at it's worst.

It's those same wingnuts that blame Bill Clinton for Vince Foster's suicide and Ron Brown's plane crash and Mary Mahoney's murder.

Same shit, different bull.

Oh well.

Yes, we Republicans admit to it: We used our evil telekinetic powers to confound Reid to the point he had a stroke :D

I knew it! It's a conspiracy with Disney, isn't it .... ISN'T IT?!

I knew it! It's a conspiracy with Disney, isn't it .... ISN'T IT?!

Nah, probably just with Rockstar North. :D

Well, its not like this is below the Republicans.

I mean, they have used assasination before to get rid of political opponents.

*coughJFKcough*


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You... heh... you... omg... you have too much time on your hands, AND you are paranoid...

P.S. I'm looking in your window right now.

All right, I'll play the popular Republican game of "Discredit and Libel Your Critics."

Here's a couple of choice quotes from Senor Stinky Head Cheese in another thread:

See, that is where you are wrong. Any namecalling of conservatives and republicans is a personal attack on me.

When you call Conservatives and Republicans, it's a personal attack. But when you call Liberals and Democratics "Wingnuts," it's THE TRUTH!! BRILLIANT!!

:rolleyes:

Also in that same thread:

Hypocrisy is a chronic disease.

Physician, Heal Thyself.

:rolleyes:

Well, its not like this is below the Republicans.

I mean, they have used assasination before to get rid of political opponents.

*coughJFKcough*
Bullshit. Now, while it may be probable that there was more than one shooter, it is highly doubtful that the republicans had anything to do with the shooting, especially since it was another Dem president who oversaw the Warren Commission.

When you call Conservatives and Republicans, it's a personal attack. But when you call Liberals and Democratics "Wingnuts," it's THE TRUTH!! BRILLIANT!!

Since many of the KosKids and most of the DUers are Rabid Wingnut Moonbats its a perfectly valid description.

Since many of the KosKids and most of the DUers are Rabid Wingnut Moonbats its a perfectly valid description.
The vast majority of the DK site membership aren't wingnuts...

Since many of the KosKids and most of the DUers are Rabid Wingnut Moonbats its a perfectly valid description.
Again with the terminology problem--it's really simple. Wingnuts are Republican crazies, and Democratic crazies are moonbats. Come on now--it's not that difficult to keep it straight.