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Right, before you say whom, I want to set down some rules:

You name an actor, the character, and the movie. It would be nice to have a reason why this particular actor is more evil and twisted than any other.


Example:
Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin

You may speculate and mention possible names, but once you put an actor together with a character and the movie in a strict order, it counts as your nomination. (You are only entitled to making one)
You may change your mind, but must clearly indicate that you did, preferably in a later post and not by editing the original nomination (makes it easer for me ;)). Unless of course, the deadline which I haven't set yet elapses.

The Current List of Nominations can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9482260&postcount=37)

Note following restrictions:

Antagonists
The person has to be evil, or at least mean. Pierce Brosnan in Ms. Doubtfire doesn't count, because all though he's the bad guy, he's not doing anything out of malice.
Cartoon characters
Unless you can name the person with the voice, things like "Djafar in Aladdin" are not acceptable. Things like "John Lithgow as Lord Farquad in Shrek" would be (especially since they look alike).
People in Documentaries
I know some of you want to nominate George W. Bush as himself in Farenheit 9/11. No. Even as fictional as some people claim F 911 is, unless it's not based on footage, it's a no-no.
Television series
No objections. Any motion pictures that aren't home made or violate the footage rule are go.
Monsters
Things like Godzilla or King Kong or Jaws aren't ok, since they don't necessarily show "human" characteristics. Vampires, werewolves, and Frankenstein's monster are fine, because they are vaguely "human" and have recognizable personalities.
People that switch sides
Hm... Lydecker in the series Dark Angel switches sides and eventually becomes a good guy. That is acceptable. People that turn out to be mistaken for someone evil in the end are not. It's difficult to lay down a specific rule for this one.
People you don't like for political reasons that are actors
If they're bad guys, go for it. If you find me a role John Wayne played as the bad guy and give a good explanation other than "he's a conservative nutjob in real life" then that's fine. Otherwise, no.
Acting skills and annoying characters
Things like Shazaam, Willy Wonka, or Jar Jar Binks don't count. They aren't bad guys in the plot, though they could be classed as evil.

Note, the nomination goes for the actor and the character, but mainly the actor. Depending on how many nominations an actor receives and on how many different roles my poll will either show the actor and the specific character or just the actor. No actor will get more than one slot on the poll.

Actor: Christian Bale
Movie: American Psycho
Character: Patrick Bateman

Come on, this guy tortures and kills for because he's bored. It's a fun little time-waster for him. He displays no remorse until the very end of the movie when he's having a bit of a breakdown. Human life means nothing to him. Even during his breakdown-induced confession he's not so much remorsefull that he's killed people, just freaked out that nobody seems to care that he kills people.

Does it have to be a living being? I mean would HAL 3000 (?) from 2001: A Space Odyssey count. (Also, AFAIK, it was a computer generated voive, so they was no actor. Well, maybe IBM :p)


I may need to sleep on this before I make a decision though :(

I have lots of possibilities, but I really am not in the best state to make a final decision (let alone contruct a reason for said nomination)

Come on, this guy tortures and kills for because he's bored.

Question: not having seen the film, but having read the book, is there the same doubt cast over whether he did actually kill anyone, or whether he was instead just getting his jollies imagining it all?

Question: not having seen the film, but having read the book, is there the same doubt cast over whether he did actually kill anyone, or whether he was instead just getting his jollies imagining it all?
I'd never considered it until you brought it up.

I've never read the book, so I don't know how the question was introduced there, but in the movie there is at least one scene that does cast doubt. Some bodies had been piled in a walk-in closet in a neighboring apartment, and when he looked in the apartment they were gone.

I'd interpreted that as meaning that because of his wealth and power things were cleaned up and kept quiet. Been a while since I saw it. I need to watch it again. Maybe even pick up the book.

Does it have to be a living being? I mean would HAL 3000 (?) from 2001: A Space Odyssey count. (Also, AFAIK, it was a computer generated voive, so they was no actor. Well, maybe IBM :p)


I may need to sleep on this before I make a decision though :(

I have lots of possibilities, but I really am not in the best state to make a final decision (let alone contruct a reason for said nomination)

It wasn't a computer-generated voice. The entry you're after is:

Actor: Douglas Rain
Character: HAL 9000 (voice)
Film: 2001: A Space Odyssey

Right. Since this thread hasn't died within the first minutes of its existence, I shall add my nomination:

Christopher Lee as Scaramanga in The Man with the Golden Gun
Christopher Lee is in my opinion the undoubtedly best villain actor of all time. Since I only allow one role per person, I chose Scaramanga, the top-assassin in the James Bond movie The Man with the Golden Gun. The character portrayed is a virtual anti-Bond, an evil counterpart and equally deadly. It is also reputed to be Lee's personal favorite role he has played so far.

If I can't mention Ursula in the "Little Mermaid," or "Yzma" in "The Emperor's New Groove," then I just don't want to play. :mad:

http://www.jadis.demon.co.uk/pictures/yzma.jpg http://pics.livejournal.com/quelconque/pic/0006k298

I'd never considered it until you brought it up.


In the book there are a couple of weird events: some bodies disappear, and IIRC, one of the people who he killed later sends a postcard from Europe, and at one point the central character describes himself as wearing a woolen tie in one paragraph, and then during the same scene wearing a silken one. Of course, the fact that the central character is fucked out of his head on coke and Stolnichya throughout the novel despite his constant claims to a clean-living and healthy lifestyle gives the reader free reign to interprete these details anyway they see fit: whether they be just dislocations in the narrative, or corporate culture cleaning up after the crimes or whatever.

If I can't mention Ursula in the "Little Mermaid," or "Yzma" in "The Emperor's New Groove," then I just don't want to play. :mad: You'd only be allowed to pick one, but you'd have to give the person that did the voice too.

Ralph Fiennes who plays Amon Goeth in the movie Schindler's List. He picks off jews with a sniper rifle from his balcony. :sniper:

You'd only be allowed to pick one, but you'd have to give the person that did the voice too.

Fine. Eartha Kitt as "Yzma" in The Emperor's New Groove.

Although, she did do a mean Catwoman.

http://gr.bolt.com/games/ps2/action/catwoman_kitt.jpg

Fine. Eartha Kitt as "Yzma" in The Emperor's New Groove.

Although, she did do a mean Catwoman.

You need to explain why she's so evil, too... ;)

Actor: Tadanobu Asano
Character: Kakihara
Film: Koroshiya (Japanese name)
Ichi the Killer (English name)

The film itself is quite good, with a mad plot and average acting, but for BADDEST Villian, it can only be Kakihara. The guy is psycho and a sadist, and not in the comedy vein of being hit by a frying pan and getting back up again. He rules his gang through fear, and the film holds no punches in showing what a nutter he is. I doubt many people have seen this film, and fewer still may have seen it in its entirety (only film ive had to watch in two sittings due to nausea) but there are bad, psycho, evil, mad, sadisitic, masochistic and fearsome bad-guys out there, and then theres Kakihara. One other thing, many villians have SOME characteristic you can associate with, maybe even if its just the dress sense. With Kakihara, there are NO redeeming features. Hes one step of evolution away from being a wild animal.

//If you plan to watch the film or are squemish DONT read any more of this post. You have been warned.

SPOILERS LAST WARNING:
In one instance, Kakihara has a rival stripped to his loins, and then suspended horizontally in the middle of a slaughterhouse on meathooks. The guy is there, face down with meat hooks holding him up like a peace of meat every few inches along the 'edge' of his body... When the guy still doesnt talk, Kakihara takes the boiling oil which hes cooking his shrimp in and pours it over the guys back. I havent even mentioned the two metal knitting needles he uses to peirce the delicate parts of people (not limited to cheeks, up through the jaw and tongue etc). With other villains, death might come faster, but none as painful or lengthy.

Ian McDiarmid as Darth Sidious/ Palpatine in Star Wars Episodes I, II, III, V and VI

Darth Sidious is the ultimate villain. He’s willing to do anything and everything to secure his own power including blowing up planets, wiping out the Jedi and enslaving billions of aliens. He’s smart, incredibly smart. He is able to twist the one who has the potential to be his most powerful enemy into his moat faithful servant, and successfully execute galaxy wide conspiracies. McDiarmid portrays the character perfectly, expressing Palpatine’s spite and arrogances in his every utterance.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/84/Palpatine1.jpg/300px-Palpatine1.jpg <---Palpatine as corrupt Senatorhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Palpatine_Ep6_DVD_6.jpg/200px-Palpatine_Ep6_DVD_6.jpg Palpatine as Lord of the Sith and Emperor of the Galactic Empire

You need to explain why she's so evil, too... ;)

It's Eartha Kitt! 'Nuff said.

Ian McDiarmid as Darth Sidious/ Palpatine in Star Wars Episodes I, II, III, V and VI

Darth Sidious is the ultimate villain. He’s willing to do anything and everything to secure his own power including blowing up planets, wiping out the Jedi and enslaving billions of aliens. He’s smart, incredibly smart. He is able to twist the one who has the potential to be his most powerful enemy into his moat faithful servant, and successfully execute galaxy wide conspiracies. McDiarmid portrays the character perfectly, expressing Palpatine’s spite and arrogances in his every utterance.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/84/Palpatine1.jpg/300px-Palpatine1.jpg <---Palpatine as corrupt Senatorhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Palpatine_Ep6_DVD_6.jpg/200px-Palpatine_Ep6_DVD_6.jpg Palpatine as Lord of the Sith and Emperor of the Galactic Empire

The sad thing is, Anakin was a total joke in Episode III. Maddox sums it up quite nicely (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=episode3).

The sad thing is, Anakin was a total joke in Episode III. Maddox sums it up quite nicely (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=episode3).
Yeah, I’ve read that before. Maddox is right in a sense, but he isn’t aware of the whole story as outlined in the books. He is somewhat right because the vast majority of people who saw it also are not aware of the whole story, yet found Anakin’s conversion feasible.

Yeah, I’ve read that before. Maddox is right in a sense, but he isn’t aware of the whole story as outlined in the books. He is somewhat right because the vast majority of people who saw it also are not aware of the whole story, yet found Anakin’s conversion feasible.

Don't try feeding me the 'in a sense' bullshit. Anakin's conversion was possibly the worst progression from good to evil that I've ever witnessed.

Don't try feeding me the 'in a sense' bullshit. Anakin's conversion was possibly the worst progression from good to evil that I've ever witnessed.
Jedi are different. The Force exacts a powerful influence on them. It is why they must be so careful, because once they are consumed by their emotions, there is often no going back.

Actor: Anthony Hopkins
Role: Hannibal Lecter (sp?)
Movie: Silence of the Lambs

His character is creepy and practices cannibalism and I personally think Anthony Hopkins played the character quite well.

Actor: Christian Bale
Movie: American Psycho
Character: Patrick Bateman

Come on, this guy tortures and kills for because he's bored. It's a fun little time-waster for him. He displays no remorse until the very end of the movie when he's having a bit of a breakdown. Human life means nothing to him. Even during his breakdown-induced confession he's not so much remorsefull that he's killed people, just freaked out that nobody seems to care that he kills people.

Read this book if you havent already...

(OK, this is just provisional, am I aloud to change if I think of a better one?)

Actor: Rie Inou
Film: Ring/Ring 2/Ring 0: Birthday (Also the books, Ring and Spiral)
Character Sadako Yamamura

(I made this decision based on the first book and the first two films)

The completely merciless antagonist of Koji Suzuki's Ring series, driven by the urge to reproduce and exact vengence on mankind for how she and her mother were treated during life, she created the Ring virus that would either kill the victim or make it become pregnant with another Sadako. She cannot be reasoned with, slowed or harmed in anyway.

David Prowse/ James Earl Jones = Darth Vader.

Films: Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi.

Reason: Duh.

Actor: Jack Nicholson
Movie: Batman, 1989
Character: Jack Napier, The Joker

He rules. He's mad, at the start of the movie he looked like a true Chicago style gangster from the thirties. As the Joker he plays a great role as insane clown wanting to kill batman whatever it takes. He hates people with a certain passion, and acts upon it.

Actor: Gene Hackman
Movie: Unforgiven, 1992
Character: Little Bill Daggett

He rules too. He beats the shit out of everyone he doesn't like, a murderous sheriff in the town of Big Whiskey, WY. He talks like a true cowboy, and doesn't fear anything. Likes to kick people in the face with his boots, but the's the worst damn carpenter.

Ok Im not sure if this counts considering he's the "protagonist".


Kevin Bacon as Walter in "The Woodsman"

It's a disturbing movie about the internal conflict of a pedophile. He struggles against himself through the entire film. Eventually seeking redemption through the brutal beating of another pedophile, an obvious metaphor for his own desires. He ends up being "good" in the end but still a villain worth mention.

Ian McDiarmid as Darth Sidious/ Palpatine in Star Wars Episodes I, II, III, V and VI

Darth Sidious is the ultimate villain. He’s willing to do anything and everything to secure his own power including blowing up planets, wiping out the Jedi and enslaving billions of aliens. He’s smart, incredibly smart. He is able to twist the one who has the potential to be his most powerful enemy into his moat faithful servant, and successfully execute galaxy wide conspiracies. McDiarmid portrays the character perfectly, expressing Palpatine’s spite and arrogances in his every utterance.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/84/Palpatine1.jpg/300px-Palpatine1.jpg <---Palpatine as corrupt Senatorhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Palpatine_Ep6_DVD_6.jpg/200px-Palpatine_Ep6_DVD_6.jpg Palpatine as Lord of the Sith and Emperor of the Galactic Empire

Actually the Emperor was portrayed in The Empire Strikes Back by the late Clive Reville. Reville passed away before the filming for Return of the Jedi could start so Lucas started looking for someone who could best sound like him... and thus Ian McDiarmid landed the role he'd become famous for.

Gabriel Byrne-The Devil in End of Days.

Thought he was fantastic....

Gabriel Byrne-The Devil in End of Days. Bah Viggo Mortenson as Satan in "The Prophecy" wins out as the best in my mind.

Actually the Emperor was portrayed in The Empire Strikes Back by the late Clive Reville. Reville passed away before the filming for Return of the Jedi could start so Lucas started looking for someone who could best sound like him... and thus Ian McDiarmid landed the role he'd become famous for.
Really? I had always heard that the image in the hologram in the Empire Strikes Back was supplied by an old women who wasn’t credited, but that McDiarmid still supplied the voice.

Actor: Jack Nicholson
Movie: Batman, 1989
Character: Jack Napier, The Joker

He rules. He's mad, at the start of the movie he looked like a true Chicago style gangster from the thirties. As the Joker he plays a great role as insane clown wanting to kill batman whatever it takes. He hates people with a certain passion, and acts upon it.

Actor: Gene Hackman
Movie: Unforgiven, 1992
Character: Little Bill Daggett

He rules too. He beats the shit out of everyone he doesn't like, a murderous sheriff in the town of Big Whiskey, WY. He talks like a true cowboy, and doesn't fear anything. Likes to kick people in the face with his boots, but the's the worst damn carpenter.You can only pick one...

You can only pick one...


Says who? Ohh I think you are a baddie.

In the book there are a couple of weird events: some bodies disappear, and IIRC, one of the people who he killed later sends a postcard from Europe, and at one point the central character describes himself as wearing a woolen tie in one paragraph, and then during the same scene wearing a silken one. Of course, the fact that the central character is fucked out of his head on coke and Stolnichya throughout the novel despite his constant claims to a clean-living and healthy lifestyle gives the reader free reign to interprete these details anyway they see fit: whether they be just dislocations in the narrative, or corporate culture cleaning up after the crimes or whatever.
There's also the bit about how he kills a colleague, but when he leaves a msg on his mate's answer phone confessing, his mate laughs it off as he had seen and spoken with him after the 'murder'.
True, throughout the book it goes to great lengths to show how similar they all are, and Bateman constantly gets confused over whos who, because they all basically clones of each other and everyone looks at the clothes, not the man wearing them. But the question still remains as to whether he did kill the guy or just imagine doing so.
And the 'blood' stains on his sheets. He mentions that the Drycleaners think they're sauce stains.

His complete mental collapse at the end of the book I think indicates just how far removed from reality he is.

Says who? Ohh I think you are a baddie.Read the original post *HINT HINT* ;)

Character: Thulsa Doom
Actor: James Earl Jones
Movie: Conan the Barbarian

Evil cult leader slaughter's Conan's family and tribe, sells Conan into slavery, builds an empire by brainwashing young people, feeds them human body parts, can turn into a snake, and tries to convince Conan that he should not seek vengance but instead but instead view him as his father. That's pretty evil.

David Prowse/ James Earl Jones = Darth Vader.

Films: Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi.

Reason: Duh.

^ Seconded.

There will be a link in the Original Post to this one. The entry contains the name of the original nominator which also links to the post in which the nomination was declared. Entries with an asterisk (*) are not valid nominations either because they haven't been clearly nominated they have been nominated by someone that already nominated someone else without clearly indicating that their nomination was retracted or they were mentioned as an answer to someone's question.
Nominations so far:


Douglas Rain as the voice of HAL in 2001: A Space Odyssey*
Christopher Lee as Scaramanga in The Man with the Golden Gun (Laerod (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478630&postcount=7))
Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth in Schindler's List (Zanato (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478678&postcount=11))
Eartha Kitt as the voice of Yzma in The Emperor's New Groove (Fass (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478701&postcount=12))
Tadanobu Asano as Kakihara in Koroshiya ("Ichi the Killer") (ISTATE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478739&postcount=14))
Ian McDiarmid as Darth Sidious/Palpatine in the Star Wars series (Undelia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478767&postcount=15))
Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs (Origami Tigers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9479045&postcount=21))
Rie Inou as Sadako Yamamura in the Ring series (Anarchic Conceptions (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481186&postcount=23))
David Prowse and James Earl Jones as (the voice of) Darth Vader in the Star Wars series (BackwoodsSquatches (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481198&postcount=24))
Jack Nicholson as Jack Napier/The Joker in Batman (Holy panooly (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481213&postcount=25))
Gene Hackman as Little Bill Daggett in Unforgiven*
Kevin Bacon as Walter in The Woodsman (Andrewaltar (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481246&postcount=26))
Gabriel Byrne as the man posessed by the Devil in End of Days (Mekonia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481309&postcount=28))
Viggo Mortenson as Satan in The Prophecy (Falhaar (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481318&postcount=29))
James Earl Jones as Thulsa Doom in Conan the Barbarian(Drunk Commies Deleted (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9482117&postcount=35))
Sala Baker as Sauron, the Dark Lord in The Lord of the Rings (Alablablania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9482459&postcount=42))
Tony Jay as the voice of Judge Claude Frollo in The Hunchback of Nôtre Dame (Lion-Wolf Handlers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9482722&postcount=46))
Michael Madsen as Vic Vega aka Mister Blonde in Reservoir Dogs (Takeizahausen (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9482809&postcount=48))
Daniel Day-Lewis as William 'Bill the Butcher' Cutting in Gangs of New York (Havl (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9483967&postcount=52))
Michael Rye as Duke Igthorn in Gummi Bears (Warrigal (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9487976&postcount=59))

Just remembered, Yukie Nakama played Sadako in Ring 0. Though she wasn't really evil in that one.

Sorry about that.

Sabertooth
Victor Creed

not the pansy from the first X-Men movie, i mean the comic book character. i mean, the guy orders pizza just so he can kill the delivery boy. In one issue of deadpool he a had a little girl giftwrapped in his closet, for "dessert." enjoys the pain of others, eats human flesh, and also isn't above raping and mutilation. his trademark, writing "sabertooth was here" in his victims blood at the scene of the crime.

David Prowse/ James Earl Jones = Darth Vader.

Films: Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi.

Reason: Duh.
[after choking Captain Needa to death]
Darth Vader: Apology accepted, Captain Needa

Darth Vader: What is it, General?
General Veers: My Lord, the fleet has moved out of lightspeed. Com Scan has detected an energy field protecting an area of the sixth planet of the Hoth System. The field is strong enough to deflect any bombardment.
Darth Vader: The Rebels are alerted to our presence. Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too close to the system.
General Veers: He felt surprise was wiser...
Darth Vader: He is as clumsy as he is stupid. General, prepare your troops for a surface attack.
General Veers: Yes, my Lord.
Admiral Ozzel: [appearing onscreen with Captain Piett] Lord Vader, the fleet has moved out of lightspeed and we're preparing to...
[Ozzel stops, and suddenly begins to choke, clutching at his throat]
Darth Vader: You have failed me for the last time, Admiral. Captain Piett?
Captain Piett: Yes, my lord?
Darth Vader: Make ready to land our troops beyond their energy field, and deploy the fleet, so that nothing gets off the system.
[beside Piett, Admiral Ozzel utters one last strangled gasp, and falls over dead]
Darth Vader: You are in command now, Admiral Piett.
Admiral Piett: Thank you, Lord Vader.

Badass to the core in V.

There will be a link in the Original Post to this one. The entry contains the name of the original nominator which also links to the post in which the nomination was declared. Entries with an asterisk (*) are not valid nominations either because they haven't been clearly nominated they have been nominated by someone that already nominated someone else without clearly indicating that their nomination was retracted or they were mentioned as an answer to someone's question.
Nominations so far:

Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman in American Psycho (Drunk Commies Deleted (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478494&postcount=2))
Douglas Rain as the voice of HAL in 2001: A Space Odyssey*
Christopher Lee as Scaramanga in The Man with the Golden Gun (Laerod (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478630&postcount=7))
Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth in Schindler's List (Zanato (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478678&postcount=11))
Eartha Kitt as the voice of Yzma in The Emperor's New Groove (Fass (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478701&postcount=12))
Tadanobu Asano as Kakihara in Koroshiya ("Ichi the Killer") (ISTATE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478739&postcount=14))
Ian McDiarmid as Darth Sidious/Palpatine in the Star Wars series (Undelia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9478767&postcount=15))
Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs (Origami Tigers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9479045&postcount=21))
Rie Inou as Sadako Yamamura in Ring/Ring 2/Ring 0: Birthday (Anarchic Conceptions (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481186&postcount=23))
David Prowse and James Earl Jones as (the voice of) Darth Vader in the Star Wars series (BackwoodsSquatches (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481198&postcount=24))
Jack Nicholson as Jack Napier/The Joker in Batman (Holy panooly (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481213&postcount=25))
Gene Hackman as Little Bill Daggett in Unforgiven*
Kevin Bacon as Walter in The Woodsman (Andrewaltar (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481246&postcount=26))
Gabriel Byrne as the man posessed by the Devil in End of Days (Mekonia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481309&postcount=28))
Viggo Mortenson as Satan in The Prophecy (Falhaar (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9481318&postcount=29))
James Earl Jones as Thulsa Doom in Conan the Barbarian*
I'm officially retracting Christian Bale/Patrick Bateman/American Psycho because upon further review his "evil" has been called into question.

Character: Sauron
Movie: LOTR trilogy
Actor: i am no sure there is one

This guy creates a ring to take over all of Middle Earth and commands hundreds of thousands of bloodthirsty orcs to do his bidding. Plus, the only way to stop him is by destroying a ring that corrupts anybody who carries it. He attacked Minis Tirith (sp?) with hundreds of thousands orcs and uruk-hi (sp again?) and begins the seige by throwing severed heads over the walls.

this guy is bad!!!!!

Character: Sauron
Movie: LOTR trilogy
Actor: i am no sure there is one

This guy creates a ring to take over all of Middle Earth and commands hundreds of thousands of bloodthirsty orcs to do his bidding. Plus, the only way to stop him is by destroying a ring that corrupts anybody who carries it. He attacked Minis Tirith (sp?) with hundreds of thousands orcs and uruk-hi (sp again?) and begins the seige by throwing severed heads over the walls.

this guy is bad!!!!!
He’s nothing compared to his master, Melkor (the Tolken character, not the NS poster)
Of course, that guy wasn’t ever in a movie.

I'm officially retracting Christian Bale/Patrick Bateman/American Psycho because upon further review his "evil" has been called into question.You could have kept it if you wanted to. He seems to be disturbed enough to be a villain. But I'll correct the list then.

Sabertooth
Victor Creed

not the pansy from the first X-Men movie, i mean the comic book character. i mean, the guy orders pizza just so he can kill the delivery boy. In one issue of deadpool he a had a little girl giftwrapped in his closet, for "dessert." enjoys the pain of others, eats human flesh, and also isn't above raping and mutilation. his trademark, writing "sabertooth was here" in his victims blood at the scene of the crime.I won't let it count unless you can give me an actor and a movie or a voice and a television series. Sorry for the misconception, but I didn't want the title to be too long, as my original title would have been, so I added the (read original post).
You can argue that the character in the movie or series is based on the one in the comic book and therefore counts as evil, and that will be perfectly acceptable (but I'm not going to search for all that myself ;))

Heartily agree; Melkor went against Illuvatar, his creator. Nothing is more evil than defying a God(-type being.. I don't know that Illuvatar counts as a God per se). <.<

Actor: Tony Jay
Character: Judge Claude Frollo
Movie: The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Granted, it's the Disney movie, but I can't really use the book, now can I? And besides, the man burns down half of Paris (which he blames on Quasimodo) in the pursuit of one gypsy he's got the hots for. And since he finds that an unholy lust, he wants her dead even MORE badly, especially if she refuses him, which she does, so he tries to burn her at the stake. Fire, fire, more fire.

Also, the one soldier (Pheobus, obviously) that puts up any fuss gets cracked upside the head by one of Frollo's more obedient minions. As Phoebus makes his escape? Frollo: "Shoot him! And DON'T hit my horse!"

Also also, yanno, that whole "you're a monster, stay hidden, when-you-come-out-during-the-festival-I'll-let-the-crowd-pelt-you-with-rotten-food-to-teach-you-a-lesson" thing he did to Quasimodo. Mustn't forget that.

Disney villains aren't immediately disqualified, I hope. I mean, damn.

Actor: Tadanobu Asano
Character: Kakihara
Film: Koroshiya (Japanese name)
Ichi the Killer (English name)


Good movie, great character. I didn't find it that gruesome though, since I was eating the whole time I was watching the movie. You did forget to mention how he has slits up to his ears which are kept closed by piercings, and he cuts out his tongue to apease the Yakuza boss' after his stunt with the hooks and wires.

He's not cast as THE villain but I consider him to be an evil man.

Actor: Michael Madsen

Character: Vic Vega A.K.A. Mister Blonde

Movie: Reservoir Dogs

Well, he slices up a cops face, hacks off the cops ear, and was planning to light the cop on fire. Not for information, for his own "personal amusement." I think it should be obvious why he's nominated.

Disney villains aren't immediately disqualified, I hope. I mean, damn.Not at all. If you can give a good arguement why, and I don't have to hunt for the person that does the voice, it's go. the only difficulty with that is that cartoons won't have the same voice the world over, so we're going to go with original versions for the voice.

I'm surprised Millicent hasn't been mentioned yet. I mean she was willing to kill Sleeping Beauty when she was still a BABY!
Note that this isn't necessarily a discussion about who was most evil. I'm going for the "best" character, and I thought "baddest" applies better to villains.

Dude excellent choice. I've always been fond of Gary Oldman as the corrupt DEA agent in the "Proffesional" the whole " Do you like Beethoven?" seen was awesome. I'm also fond of the "Fall and redemtion of Darth Vader"






Actor: Tadanobu Asano
Character: Kakihara
Film: Koroshiya (Japanese name)
Ichi the Killer (English name)

The film itself is quite good, with a mad plot and average acting, but for BADDEST Villian, it can only be Kakihara. The guy is psycho and a sadist, and not in the comedy vein of being hit by a frying pan and getting back up again. He rules his gang through fear, and the film holds no punches in showing what a nutter he is. I doubt many people have seen this film, and fewer still may have seen it in its entirety (only film ive had to watch in two sittings due to nausea) but there are bad, psycho, evil, mad, sadisitic, masochistic and fearsome bad-guys out there, and then theres Kakihara. One other thing, many villians have SOME characteristic you can associate with, maybe even if its just the dress sense. With Kakihara, there are NO redeeming features. Hes one step of evolution away from being a wild animal.

//If you plan to watch the film or are squemish DONT read any more of this post. You have been warned.

SPOILERS LAST WARNING:
In one instance, Kakihara has a rival stripped to his loins, and then suspended horizontally in the middle of a slaughterhouse on meathooks. The guy is there, face down with meat hooks holding him up like a peace of meat every few inches along the 'edge' of his body... When the guy still doesnt talk, Kakihara takes the boiling oil which hes cooking his shrimp in and pours it over the guys back. I havent even mentioned the two metal knitting needles he uses to peirce the delicate parts of people (not limited to cheeks, up through the jaw and tongue etc). With other villains, death might come faster, but none as painful or lengthy.

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Daniel Day-Lewis as William 'Bill the Butcher' Cutting in Gangs of New York.

Daniel Day-Lewis as William 'Bill the Butcher' Cutting in Gangs of New York.It's noted, but it would be cool if you shared why you think so ;)

You can only pick one...Drama. What is this, an official thread where the results are compiled into some sort of 'Movie Character Evilness Chart' one of the million threads on Jolt? I pick two, three or ten and if you don't like it then don't read my posts.

Darth Vader is the most badass you can get

Tim Roth in Rob Roy
He's a raping, pillaging, effete, English, master swordsman but still manages to seem a little human underneath it all

Vicious from Cowboy Bebop

"You shall shed crimson tears"
"What use is a beast who has lost his fangs?

T-1000 comes in a close second

"Get out"

Drama. What is this, an official thread where the results are compiled into some sort of 'Movie Character Evilness Chart' one of the million threads on Jolt? I pick two, three or ten and if you don't like it then don't read my posts.Sheesh, if you didn't like my rules, why did you post in the first place?

Well, since Darth Vader from Ep. V is already taken, I have to say:

Michael Rye as Duke Igthorn, in Disney's Gummi Bears...

It's the laugh, he has totally the best villain laugh, ever. :D