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I SO made a thread about this earlier this year that he stepped down. And that Jude Law was a canidate for the new Bond. Didn't I? DIDN'T I?

I believe that's why Law got into half a dozen movies in such a short period of time. He was putting himself in a good position for the Bond role.

I SO made a thread about this earlier this year that he stepped down. And that Jude Law was a canidate for the new Bond. Didn't I? DIDN'T I?

I believe that's why Law got into half a dozen movies in such a short period of time. He was putting himself in a good position for the Bond role.


I HATE JUDE LAW! Ewan McGreggor would make a much nicer Bond :fluffle:

They need another grizzly sean connery type bond. not the pussy bond pierce brosnon played.

I say it should be this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0654110/

and if you saw...Sin City...you know why.

Who's Pierce Bronson?

Who's Pierce Bronson?


Oh..hes that guy who used to be on that lame sit-com..and say "Dont be ridickuloos!"

I SO made a thread about this earlier this year that he stepped down. And that Jude Law was a canidate for the new Bond. Didn't I? DIDN'T I?

I believe that's why Law got into half a dozen movies in such a short period of time. He was putting himself in a good position for the Bond role.
If Jude Law gets the part it will be just another reason on a long list of reasons not to see James Bond films.

Ahem! Jude Law = pwnz. However, he would not make a good Bond.

Clive Owen, on the other hand, would.

Did anyone hear the rumour last time Brosnan said he'd not do another film (before Die Another Day) that Robbie Williams was slated?

Damn i really want Pierce Brosnan to do one more Bond! :mad:

And after Brosnan probably Orlando Bloom for Bond? :cool:

Damn i really want Pierce Brosnan to do one more Bond! :mad:


Bond is eternally 30.

Brosnan is pushing 50..or higher....

Hes getting too old.

Although, he was the second best Bond.

Brosnan's obviously first choice for carrying on the Bond franchise, but in his absence I'd like either Clive Owen or Jude Law....loved them both in "Closer" :)

I'll always wish for Stephen Fry. Always.

Eamonn Holmes would also be an awesome bond. :D Though I expect only Brits will get this.

Finally! I really don't like how he played Bond.
The best were Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton (but oh good grief the scripts he had, *shudders*)
I don't know if Clive Owen is charasmatic enough. He could certainly play the gritty, callous assassin side of Bond but I am not sure if he could play the witty, charming diplomat bits.

Has anyone considered Ricky Gervais?

Well ... the Bond torch gets passed. I don't care who gets it ... it's the role, not the actor, that makes the Bond. Bond even made Timothy Dalton (bleh) cool.

Oh..hes that guy who used to be on that lame sit-com..and say "Dont be ridickuloos!"

Ahahaha ... no no ... that was Bronson Pinchot. :D

As long as they don't get another Roger Moore, I'm cool. :p

As long as they don't get another Roger Moore, I'm cool. :pOr David Niven... :(

We've discussed this before in here- its a shame Pierce Brosnan wont continue. He seemed to be getting the dark, gritty side of the Bond character down. Ruthless and cold coming to the surface.

Remember that James Bond is a borderline alcoholic sociopath.

Clive Owen might need a little work first. We dont need another waxy dandy like Roger Moore.

Rowan Atkinson!

We dont need another waxy dandy like Roger Moore.

Heck, Dudley Moore would have made a better Bond than Roger Moore.

I'll always wish for Stephen Fry. Always.

Eamonn Holmes would also be an awesome bond. :D Though I expect only Brits will get this.

LMAO :D Pudgy Bond :D

Bond is eternally 30.

Brosnan is pushing 50..or higher....

Hes getting too old.

Although, he was the second best Bond.
More like eternally 45. Brosnan's got the juice for one final outing. After that, who can say? Throw it to a (talented) unknown. Let someone with little or no background grow a new image.

Like what Christopher Eccleston did for reviving Doctor Who - re-invent the character, seemingly on his own terms.

More like eternally 45.

Nah. He was born in 1924, and the first novel came out in 1953, which puts him around the 30 bracket, and the last full length novel by Fleming came out in 1965. Eternally 'somewhere between 29 and 41'.

I'll always wish for Stephen Fry. Always.

Eamonn Holmes would also be an awesome bond. :D Though I expect only Brits will get this.

Anyone noticed that the actors who actually play Bond...well...they're not British?

Brosnan=Irish
Connery=Scottish
Dalton=...I've heard he's also Irish, though that's not gospel since the guy I heard it from also saud that Bush is a clone and Blair was a member of the communist party.

Nah. He was born in 1924, and the first novel came out in 1953, which puts him around the 30 bracket, and the last full length novel by Fleming came out in 1965. Eternally 'somewhere between 29 and 41'.
Yeah, but were the Fleming novels specifically set in 1953 onward? I was under the impression that the world Bond lived in was more often than not an unspecified year or so ahead of the immediate future.

Rowan Atkinson!

Would be best Bond ever!!! :D

The weird thing about Bond is that, well, though Fleming's Bond was one man, with one history (parents dying mountaineering and so on), I do believe he said himself that the name "James Bond" itself was just a pseudonym, attached to whoever held the number 007. It was not his intention to do this, but it would explain the changing faces of Bond.

Anyone noticed that the actors who actually play Bond...well...they're not British?

Brosnan=Irish
Connery=Scottish
Dalton=...I've heard he's also Irish, though that's not gospel since the guy I heard it from also saud that Bush is a clone and Blair was a member of the communist party.
Bond is supposed to be half Scots and half Swiss. You sorta want to avoid anyone too 'British'.

I say it should be this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0654110/

and if you saw...Sin City...you know why.
hah, I'm not the only one who thinks Clive Owen would make a good bond. Seen I'll Sleep When I'm Dead?

Bond is supposed to be half Scots and half Swiss. You sorta want to avoid anyone too 'British'.

Damn. Its usually my job to point that out. Score one point to Dobbsworld for pedantry. However... it should be noted that he did spend most of his formative years at school in England. (I imagine that 'British' was intended to be read as 'English').

We've discussed this before in here- its a shame Pierce Brosnan wont continue. He seemed to be getting the dark, gritty side of the Bond character down. Ruthless and cold coming to the surface.

Remember that James Bond is a borderline alcoholic sociopath.

Clive Owen might need a little work first. We dont need another waxy dandy like Roger Moore.
Go rent I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. Waxy dandy does not describe Clive owen.

I was under the impression that the world Bond lived in was more often than not an unspecified year or so ahead of the immediate future.

Ah-hah! No. If we look at the obituary from You Only Live Twice we see the lines - James Bond was briefly married in 1962, to Teresa, only daughter of Marc-Ange Draco, of Marseilles. The marriage ended in tragic circumstances that were reported in the press at the time. - which inarguably refer to the events of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, which was published in 1963. Thus we are safe to conclude that the publication dates of the novels can be taken as roughly a year later than the events they contain (with the exception of those stories which are clearly published out of chronology). My case, if I have one, is rested.

Clive Owen would make a very good Bond. No doubt about it. I think he'd be more appropriate to the role than Jude Law. Jude Law would make a good villain or male hench-thingy. But he's just too pretty to be a credible Bond.

Ah-hah! No. If we look at the obituary from You Only Live Twice we see the lines - James Bond was briefly married in 1962, to Teresa, only daughter of Marc-Ange Draco, of Marseilles. The marriage ended in tragic circumstances that were reported in the press at the time. - which inarguable refer to the event of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, which was published in 1963. Thus we are safe to conclude that the publication dates of the novels can be taken as roughly a year later than the events they contain (with the exception of those stories which are clearly published out of chronology). My case, if I have one, is rested.
I have nothing to add, your honour.

Clive Owen would make a very good Bond. No doubt about it. I think he'd be more appropriate to the role than Jude Law. Jude Law would make a good villain or male hench-thingy. But he's just too pretty to be a credible Bond.
He's too...'pretty boy' or something for Bond. Bond needs to be rugged.

Anyone but Orlando Bloom! I can't help picturing him using a bow instead of Bond's trusty Walther. Anyway, who knows, Elijah Wood really surprised me playing that cannibalistic psycho in Sin City. :eek:

He's too...'pretty boy' or something for Bond. Bond needs to be rugged.
Who? Owen or Law?

I'm not sure why you're all so against Roger Moore, he's my favorite Bond. His films, admittedly, were ridiculous - but what Bond movie isn't to some extent? Most of the Connery films - the ones that a lot of people seem to like the best - are deeply marred by the "evil villain with huge ridiculous evil lair" aspect. They played down the evil lair aspect eventually with Connery's films, but not until Moore (not to forget Lazenby's film) did we really get into more "realistic" films (of course I can't deny that he had his share of "evil lair" films, the worst being Moonraker).

That's partly why For Your Eyes Only is my favorite Bond film - finally getting rid of Blofeld in the beginning sort of says "we're finally trying to get the series away from the ridiculousness of the earlier Bond films, and bringing in some new ridiculouslness that's a whole lot more entertaining". It's a very personal thing though, which Bond films you like the most - in most respects the best Connery films are probably better than For Your Eyes Only, but there are too many aspects of the Connery films I don't like and so many aspects of the best Moore films that I do like, nothing can beat it.

I mean come on it's got it all - skiing, car chases, underwater/submarine stuff, an awesome bond girl who's finally more than a doofus model(not the figure skater, the cool one obviously), the cool greek guy, the castle at the top of the mountain, the russian guy at the end. No other Bond film compares ;)

You also have to consider the other movies you might like - for example I love Jackie Chan movies from the 80's, for example Armour of God - which in some scenes is so ridiculous you can't even believe what you just saw. They're extremely entertaining, just like the ridiculousness of the best Moore Bond films.

Of course I'm off topic but I felt the need to defend Roger Moore. To me, he's the best Bond, and unless they come up with someone better, which is very doubtful, he'll always be the best in my eyes (maybe for my eyes only? ;))

I hope for the new film they pick someone relatively unknown. Someone who I often see suggested is Ewan McGregor, who I like, but I'm not sure he's really right for the role. I mean we need the kind of actor who we won't be able to look at afterwards without thinking Bond, even years after his last Bond film, and he's so popular and has done so many great roles that I don't think it'll be possible for him.

I'm not sure why you're all so against Roger Moore...

The fact that he was clearly too old to play the character.
The fact that he appeared to be wearing a corset.
The fact that his acting talent ran the entire gamut from A to B.
The fact that his superannuated looks gave a really creepy twist to all his love interests (whether he was intended to verge on pedophilia, or they on gerontophilia, I don't know).
The fact that the stuntmen were never the same size and shape as him.
The fact that his face and voice and general demeanour just grated on me.
The fact that sometimes even getting up out of a chair seemed to be a great effort to him, never mind walking up a flight of stairs or getting into a fight.
The fact that he never seemed to be actually looking at whoever was speaking to him, but always slightly up and to the side.


None of which touch on the utter crud he was given to work with in the line of scripts though...


But, hey, what do I know? I liked George Lazenby in the role.

Who? Owen or Law?
Law.

No, Moore isn't my personal fave - but yes, For Your Eyes Only was a very good film. It's more of a stripped-down Bond, but it's a highlight of the series, IMO. Dalton's first outing, The Living Daylights, was also good in the same sense the For Your Eyes Only was good - a little less reliance on gadgetry, a lotta less reliance on the huge villain lairs.

I have a question that might seem kinda strange - has anyone else wondered whether the villain lairs all use the same staircases? I'm trying to remember now... but I distinctly remember the open-stair metal staircases appearing in Dr. No and You Only Live Twice, and possibly in Live and Let Die and Moonraker. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Those metallic, sorta futuristic staircases... taunting me... laughing at me...

Anyobdy wanna rate their fave Bonds? Their fave Bond films? If you do, I'll take the plunge:

Bonds:

1) Sean Connery
2) Pierce Brosnan
3) Roger Moore
4) Timothy Dalton
5) David Niven (yes, I'll include Casino Royale, and he's still far better than)
6) George Lazenby

Bond Films: In order of descending preference, 1-13, the best of the best:

1) You Only Live Twice (Ahhh, c'mon, Blofeldt's lair kicked ass already)
2) Thunderball (Scuba wars. Great to watch on a hot summer night)
3) Goldfinger (Best lines. Also fun & easy to follow along in foreign overdubs)
4) Goldeneye (Stylish. Also set precedent for the innate villainy of Sean Bean)
5) For Your Eyes Only (As mentioned previously)
6) Die Another Day (Except Madonna)
7) The World Is Not Enough (Renard was particularly good)
8) The Man With The Golden Gun (Christopher Lee's teeth alone made him an outstanding villain, though also having Britt Ekland was kinda like a Wicker Man cast reunion)
9) Tomorrow Never Dies (Except the theme song, which sucked. Although K.D. Lang's theme song, used for the end credits kicked all the asses of all the other theme songs from all the other movies into the stratosphere... of other planets, that is)
10) From Russia With Love (First of the blonde aryan henchthingys)
11) The Spy Who Loved Me (While the villain's lair was goofy, Barbara Bach's cleavage was anything but)
12) Dr. No (a fine and stylish first entry, somewhat marred by implied or outright racism on the part of the Bond character, major points for villain costuming in the prototypical lair)
13) Moonraker ( Kinda the same flick as The Spy Who Loved Me, but in space! Cool beans. Well, mostly cool. Except where it was annoying. Wait, can I change my vote?)

In order of descending preference, 14-21, the best of the worst:

14) Live and Let Die (Yaphet Kotto in a mask that looks like Yaphet Kotto in a mask? C'mon... and the hilarious supposition that the entire black population of the United States is apparently 'in on it'...)
15) Diamonds Are Forever (Hullo Blofeldt: Why do you now suddenly look just like Dikko Henderson from You Only Live Twice? Ssh, you're not supposed to let on, 007. And don't go hitting me in the leg again, it's no longer hollow.)
16) Octopussy (Moore long in the tooth [Maud Adams too], short on credibility. Clown motif was eminently anti-climactic)
17) A View To A Kill (Chris Walken, miscast as ultimate blonde aryan henchthingy-turned-villain. Grace Jones miscast as henchthingy. Tanya Roberts miscast as Bond girl. Moore miscast as James Bond.)
18) Casino Royale (it's still not as steenky as choices 19-21, guys)
19) Never Say Never Again (Thunderball! Only this time it's crap!)
20) On her Majesty's secret service (Hullo. My name's James Bond. I'm sure you don't remember me destroying your villain's lair in Japan last summer, Mr. Blofeldt. Mind if I bum around your Alpine villain's lair? Thanks. Oh, meet Mrs. Bo- oh, never mind.)
21) License To Kill (The worst idea, when you run out of ideas, is to try foregoing a tried-and-true formula in favour of adapting a generic contemporary crime-drama instead. a real shame, too because Dalton wasn't nearly as steenky as the screenplay)

Oops. I forgot The Living Daylights. Ok, put in between Die Another Day and The World Is not Enough. Making it:

6.5) The Living Daylights (not nearly so forgettable as I am forgetful, and a strong first entry for Timothy Dalton)

Law.
Just making sure. I would've been honestly puzzled if you'd found Clive Owen a little too pretty for it.

:p

Damn i really want Pierce Brosnan to do one more Bond! :mad:

And after Brosnan probably Orlando Bloom for Bond? :cool:

Orlando Bloom is a woman

No, Moore isn't my personal fave - but yes, For Your Eyes Only was a very good film. It's more of a stripped-down Bond, but it's a highlight of the series, IMO. Dalton's first outing, The Living Daylights, was also good in the same sense the For Your Eyes Only was good - a little less reliance on gadgetry, a lotta less reliance on the huge villain lairs.

I have a question that might seem kinda strange - has anyone else wondered whether the villain lairs all use the same staircases? I'm trying to remember now... but I distinctly remember the open-stair metal staircases appearing in Dr. No and You Only Live Twice, and possibly in Live and Let Die and Moonraker. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Those metallic, sorta futuristic staircases... taunting me... laughing at me...

Anyobdy wanna rate their fave Bonds? Their fave Bond films? If you do, I'll take the plunge:

Bonds:

1) Sean Connery
2) Pierce Brosnan
3) Roger Moore
4) Timothy Dalton
5) David Niven (yes, I'll include Casino Royale, and he's still far better than)
6) George Lazenby

Bond Films: In order of descending preference, 1-13, the best of the best:

1) You Only Live Twice (Ahhh, c'mon, Blofeldt's lair kicked ass already)
2) Thunderball (Scuba wars. Great to watch on a hot summer night)
3) Goldfinger (Best lines. Also fun & easy to follow along in foreign overdubs)
4) Goldeneye (Stylish. Also set precedent for the innate villainy of Sean Bean)
5) For Your Eyes Only (As mentioned previously)
6) Die Another Day (Except Madonna)
7) The World Is Not Enough (Renard was particularly good)
8) The Man With The Golden Gun (Christopher Lee's teeth alone made him an outstanding villain, though also having Britt Ekland was kinda like a Wicker Man cast reunion)
9) Tomorrow Never Dies (Except the theme song, which sucked. Although K.D. Lang's theme song, used for the end credits kicked all the asses of all the other theme songs from all the other movies into the stratosphere... of other planets, that is)
10) From Russia With Love (First of the blonde aryan henchthingys)
11) The Spy Who Loved Me (While the villain's lair was goofy, Barbara Bach's cleavage was anything but)
12) Dr. No (a fine and stylish first entry, somewhat marred by implied or outright racism on the part of the Bond character, major points for villain costuming in the prototypical lair)
13) Moonraker ( Kinda the same flick as The Spy Who Loved Me, but in space! Cool beans. Well, mostly cool. Except where it was annoying. Wait, can I change my vote?)

In order of descending preference, 14-21, the best of the worst:

14) Live and Let Die (Yaphet Kotto in a mask that looks like Yaphet Kotto in a mask? C'mon... and the hilarious supposition that the entire black population of the United States is apparently 'in on it'...)
15) Diamonds Are Forever (Hullo Blofeldt: Why do you now suddenly look just like Dikko Henderson from You Only Live Twice? Ssh, you're not supposed to let on, 007. And don't go hitting me in the leg again, it's no longer hollow.)
16) Octopussy (Moore long in the tooth [Maud Adams too], short on credibility. Clown motif was eminently anti-climactic)
17) A View To A Kill (Chris Walken, miscast as ultimate blonde aryan henchthingy-turned-villain. Grace Jones miscast as henchthingy. Tanya Roberts miscast as Bond girl. Moore miscast as James Bond.)
18) Casino Royale (it's still not as steenky as choices 19-21, guys)
19) Never Say Never Again (Thunderball! Only this time it's crap!)
20) On her Majesty's secret service (Hullo. My name's James Bond. I'm sure you don't remember me destroying your villain's lair in Japan last summer, Mr. Blofeldt. Mind if I bum around your Alpine villain's lair? Thanks. Oh, meet Mrs. Bo- oh, never mind.)
21) License To Kill (The worst idea, when you run out of ideas, is to try foregoing a tried-and-true formula in favour of adapting a generic contemporary crime-drama instead. a real shame, too because Dalton wasn't nearly as steenky as the screenplay)

Oops. I forgot The Living Daylights. Ok, put in between Die Another Day and The World Is not Enough. Making it:

6.5) The Living Daylights (not nearly so forgettable as I am forgetful, and a strong first entry for Timothy Dalton)

I am impressed. This is a superb sumnation and review. I'm so exhausted now I couldnt possibly put the effort into this to put my opinions on par.
I enjoyed your comments and insight.
Thanks!

Jason Statham!

(yeah, I know he wouldn't be good as Bond, but he's so awesome)

Jason Statham!

(yeah, I know he wouldn't be good as Bond, but he's so awesome)

Is he "The Transporter"? Man-I could watch that guy fight all day.
I just saw a sequel is coming out-he is non-stop action.

Is he "The Transporter"? Man-I could watch that guy fight all day.
I just saw a sequel is coming out-he is non-stop action.

Yeah, Transporter. And Snatch. And Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrells. He's awesome.

20) On her Majesty's secret service (Hullo. My name's James Bond. I'm sure you don't remember me destroying your villain's lair in Japan last summer, Mr. Blofeldt. Mind if I bum around your Alpine villain's lair? Thanks. Oh, meet Mrs. Bo- oh, never mind.)

Okay, so you don't like George Lazenby in the role of Bond, but two words to make you reassess OHMSS: Diana Rigg.

Yeah, Transporter. And Snatch. And Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrells. He's awesome.

He is awesome, I agree.

Snatch- with Brad Pitt as Popeye on heroin...*L*

I say it should be this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0654110/

and if you saw...Sin City...you know why.

I love that guy but Bond?

I love that guy but Bond?

Unless someone else pops up, I'd say give him a try. He just doesnt sit right with me. But I guess Pierce Brosnan didnt at first, what with "Remington Steele still fresh in memory.

The idea of Clive Owen as Bond is growing on me. It hadn't even occured to me until I read this thread. I think he probably looks a little too old to play Bond.

My favourite would have to be Colin Salmon! He has all the qualities that make Bond, the looks, the charisma and that inimitable 'Britishness' about him. His name has been associated with Bond for a while, even Brosnan tipped him to become the first black Bond!
http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=541&ArticleID=694367

He dident step down they fired him over the phone

What about those metal staircases... anyone thought it over?