NationStates Jolt Archive

The title says it all in my opinion.

I just do not understand why people cannot support the soldiers who believe that they are doing the right thing. All this talk about Cindy Sheehan and everything aggrevates be from both sides. Honeslty, her son knew what was happening. All of my friends who are in the marines, including the one who was killed, believed that war in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and just. They all joined knowing the possible situations being in the army might require.

Many of the soldiers believe the war is right, why can't we accept this!?!?!?!?!

Many of the soldiers believe the war is wrong, why can't you accept this!?!?!?!?!

Many of the soldiers believe the war is right, why can't we accept this!?!?!?!?!

I'm sure many soldiers and former soldiers in Iraq feel the opposite, too. It is common for people to have to fight for something they don't believe is right. Not even all of the German soldiers in WWII believe in what they were being made to fight for.

I believe that every enlisted soldier has a right to his or her own moral and ethical beliefs, and whether they are for or against the war in Iraq is not of question. This is just one part of their beliefs whether the anti-war or pro-war movement wants it.

Many of the soldiers believe the war is wrong, why can't you accept this!?!?!?!?!
But a majority of the soldiers enlisted after 9/11 and the war in Iraq. Does this not show a support for the wars?

But a majority of the soldiers enlisted after 9/11 and the war in Iraq. Does this not show a support for the wars?
It could possibly show a willingness to fight terrorism, but I fail to see how tha translates to a war waged in Iraq thats link with terrorism (other than the fact that it has increased it) is tenious at best.

Supporting a war against terrorism =/= supporting a war against Iraq.

But a majority of the soldiers enlisted after 9/11 and the war in Iraq. Does this not show a support for the wars?

What about the soldiers who were already in the military and got sent over there? I'm sure not every single one of them wanted to get sent to war. Some just joined as a career oppurtunity, not because they wanted to have to fight in a war someday.

I'm sure that there are many soldiers who believe this war is just, and I'm sure there are many who feel the complete opposite. We cannot make generalizations.

However, it is not a soldiers job to have an opinion during a conflict. They follow their orders. They do their duty regardless of how they feel.

But a majority of the soldiers enlisted after 9/11 and the war in Iraq. Does this not show a support for the wars?

Hahaha.

H: Many soldiers support the war!

N: Many soldiers are against the war!

H: But...many soldiers support the war!

etc.

However, it is not a soldiers job to have an opinion during a conflict. They follow their orders. They do their duty regardless of how they feel.

That, and once a soldier is in war, they're fighting for their lives. Their feelings on the war they are being made to fought in become irrelevant.

I’m against the war and I recognize that the majority of the soldiers believe the war is right. Last time I checked, 70% of those employed by the US military were Republican. I know this doesn’t necessarily mean they support the war, or even Bush, but it is a good indicator of where the majority stands.

That, and once a soldier is in war, they're fighting for their lives. Their feelings on the war they are being made to fought in become irrelevant.

Exactly, so why are we assuming that soldiers have a political opinion on this current conflict?

CNN: So how do you feel about the war?
Soldier: Get the fuck outta here! Can't you see I'm being shot at?
CNN: What about abortion?
Soldier: Abortion!? Oh, I'll show you abortion! *sound of gun being cocked*

Exactly, so why are we assuming that soldiers have a political opinion on this current conflict?

CNN: So how do you feel about the war?
Soldier: Get the fuck outta here! Can't you see I'm being shot at?
CNN: What about abortion?
Soldier: Abortion!? Oh, I'll show you abortion! *sound of gun being cocked*

This may not have meant to be funny, but I'm so glad I wasn't drinking when I read it.

Exactly, so why are we assuming that soldiers have a political opinion on this current conflict?

CNN: So how do you feel about the war?
Soldier: Get the fuck outta here! Can't you see I'm being shot at?
CNN: What about abortion?
Soldier: Abortion!? Oh, I'll show you abortion! *sound of gun being cocked*
Wow, funny and distasteful at the same time. But, sadly, it is accurate in a twisted kind of way; after all, the media is being rather intrusive (CNN in this case) and the soldiers don't have time for that as they fight for their country's asinine policies.

Wow, funny and distasteful at the same time. But, sadly, it is accurate in a twisted kind of way; after all, the media is being rather intrusive (CNN in this case) and the soldiers don't have time for that as they fight for their country's asinine policies.

As bad as Iraq is right now, the media IS blowing alot of it out of proportion. And I'm glad they generally DON'T intrude. But...knowing the media...

Anyone remember Heraldo...?

Anyone remember Heraldo...?

And Terry Schiavo (sp)?

The media's job is too blow things out of proportion whenever possible.

And Terry Schiavo (sp)?

The media's job is too blow things out of proportion whenever possible.

No, the media's job to provide information to the public without slant or bias. They haven't been doing their job. We should fire them...

No, the media's job to provide information to the public without slant or bias. They haven't been doing their job. We should fire them...

I know what the media's job is SUPPOSE to be (provide information to the public without slant or bia, as you said). I was stating what the media seems to see it's job as these days.

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I know what the media's job is SUPPOSE to be (provide information to the public without slant or bia, as you said). I was stating what the media seems to see it's job as these days.
No , that would be the job of a news agency, which is just one part of the media. The media’s job as a whole, is to entertain, so they can sell advertising. It’s why Fox News isn’t a real news agency, because it’s entertainment. That’s why I watch it. Real news is boring. :p

No , that would be the job of a news agency, which is just one part of the media. The media’s job as a whole, is to entertain, so they can sell advertising. It’s why Fox News isn’t a real news agency, because it’s entertainment. That’s why I watch it. Real news is boring. :p

BBC is my friend...

Many of the soldiers believe the war is right, why can't we accept this!?!?!?!?!
People who blow up abortion clinics think they're right too.

I don't compare the two scenarios.

But right does not make RIGHT.

People who blow up abortion clinics think they're right too.

I don't compare the two scenarios.

But right does not make RIGHT.

Similar to "Might makes Right".

Just because you CAN do a thing, does not mean you SHOULD do that thing.

BBC is my friend...
Unless your entire country’s media is nationalized :eek: you should say news agencies instead of media. Otherwise your lumping the news in with the lovely folks at Comedy Central.

Many of the soldiers believe the war is right, why can't we accept this!?!?!?!?!

Technically, the war is over. Having accomplished their mission, most of the soldiers just want to come home. At least, all of the ones I've talked to (mostly National Guard). Also, as a Vietnam-era vet, I know that most soldiers are against war, as it's their lives that are on the line. Don't believe me? Then join the army and find out for yourself!