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Inspired by this article at CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/08/17/school.subjects.ap/index.html

So I wanted to see if it was true. What school subject do/did YOU hate the most?

Poll up!

Math. I know it, and I know it well, but I always found it dreadfully boring. Never understood why I had to take a class going over something I already knew, then again requirements are there for a reason.

Has to be maths.
The fact I have a rubbish teacher who hates me doesn't help.

I belong to the category that has a very easy time learning math, so it ended up being one of my favorite subjects. The subject I hated the most was history. I just find it all both rather pointless and subjective, but then that's just my opinion, so no offense to you history buffs.

I actually like history and maths, so i choose science

I belong to the category that has a very easy time learning math, so it ended up being one of my favorite subjects. The subject I hated the most was history. I just find it all both rather pointless and subjective, but then that's just my opinion, so no offense to you history buffs.

See, I was the opposite in the response to being good at Math. I was a wiz at it, and because so much of time was spent in classes that didn't "challenge" me, I found it dreadfully boring and wasteful.

And well, I loved everything else :D.

Math is just blech. It makes me think in a way which is unpleasant.

See, I was the opposite in the response to being good at Math. I was a wiz at it, and because so much of time was spent in classes that didn't "challenge" me, I found it dreadfully boring and wasteful.

And well, I loved everything else :D.

I can do maths, and am in the top maths group*, but it is challenging, and my teacher never explains anything, and doesn't seem to understand that I don't.

*I got an A* for my first GCSE module exam last year!

See, I was the opposite in the response to being good at Math. I was a wiz at it, and because so much of time was spent in classes that didn't "challenge" me, I found it dreadfully boring and wasteful.

And well, I loved everything else :D.

That's a good point. I, too, sometimes had little to do in Math class. When I got to more advanced things, like trigonometry, integrals and such, it became more interesting.

It's an ever-present problem in schools that the education is so collectively controlled, without any regard to individuals. That means that some will always struggle and some will always be bored.

I was so happy when I hit A-Levels and no longer had to bother with Sport or Religious Education. No more having to waste time outside doing cross-country in the cold, or playing football, or other silly team sports. RE was an equivalent waste of time, but at least it was indoors.

Eight years later and I still think all sports teachers should be flayed alive...

maths. not only did we get through 4 bloody teachers in 2 years at GCSE (which really didn't help btw... and 3 of them were really bad teachers), but also i suck at it. i have some weird problem with patterns which has alwasys made maths hard - hell i still don't know my times-tables :headbang:

I was so happy when I hit A-Levels and no longer had to bother with Sport or Religious Education. No more having to waste time outside doing cross-country in the cold, or playing football, or other silly team sports. RE was an equivalent waste of time, but at least it was indoors.

Eight years later and I still think all sports teachers should be flayed alive...

To this day I don't understand why P.E. is even counted as a subject. Here in Sweden I'm at least thankful that we can disregard it from our final GPA, if we wish.

I'm good with math, don't love, don't hate. Though my favorite is either history, economics or political studies.

I dislike most is Philosophy. Don't know why I tried it in the first place. I dropped out after my second class.

I dislike classes where the teacher thinks their so absurdly clever or think their so much more enlightened than the rest.

i hate learning languages, i'm more of a numbers person
i'm trying and failing to learn french and irish

To this day I don't understand why P.E. is even counted as a subject. Here in Sweden I'm at least thankful that we can disregard it from our final GPA, if we wish.

Neither do I. I'm rubbish at it, and it's generally an embarrassment, no matter what the sport.
Only one year of it left.

I dislike classes where the teacher thinks their so absurdly clever or think their so much more enlightened than the rest.

That's exactly what my maths teacher is like. He also thinks that because HE knows how to work something out, we should be able to as well without instruction or help. I just generally dislike him - he makes me angry.

I'm good with math, don't love, don't hate. Though my favorite is either history, economics or political studies.

I dislike most is Philosophy. Don't know why I tried it in the first place. I dropped out after my second class.

god i wish we could have done politics or philosophy at our school :(


oh and from the article

"It just came easy to me," Donald Foltasz, a pipefitter from Hamlin, New York, said about math. "When you got all done, you got answers. With English you could say a lot of words that mean different things, my interpretation might be different from any of the teachers. But with math, there's no interpretation -- two plus two is four."

thats a reason why this guy likes maths. its just one of the reasons why i can't stand it... no wonder there's this 'love-hate' relationship

French, hated it and sucked at it...i just couldnt get my head around the grammar.

Math. Never understood it. I mean, when you're wrong, you're wrong, no interpretation can change that. I prefer subjects that often deal with more than one right answer to a problem.

I actually liked P.E.

I'm a big sports guy, and grew up playing everything from Rugby to Golf & everything in between. So, it was always fun for me. Also, every Friday we ran the mile, and I was always a runner so it was yet another easy and Fun A.

With Math, you only depend on yourself, so it was dreadfully boring. With P.E. at least other factors made it so I was doing something enjoyable.

Math. Never understood it. I mean, when you're wrong, you're wrong, no interpretation can change that. I prefer subjects that often deal with more than one right answer to a problem.

That's why I like History. No matter what you say, there's always the chance that it's right.

I loved maths, and science, because things are either right or wrong. I always will hate faffy courses where there's no spcific right or wrong way to do things. Thats my nature i guess.

I particularly hated geography at school. They taught us nothing about proper things, like locations of other countries, and random facts about them. It should be re-named earthquakeandtidalwaveaphy. Nice subjects, but lacking lustre after 3 years of study.

That's why I like History. No matter what you say, there's always the chance that it's right.

me to, its basically just your interpretation of events

I mostly hate literacy. the teachers always tell a lot of garbage on 4 sentences song, and many times they ignore the purpose of the author.

To this day I don't understand why P.E. is even counted as a subject. Here in Sweden I'm at least thankful that we can disregard it from our final GPA, if we wish.
I think it's so fat kids* get some exercise. It wasn't examined or anything, and made no difference whatsoever to academic scores (but everything here is examined individually).

*I was one of the fat kids. Possibly why I hated it so much...

I loved maths, and science, because things are either right or wrong. I always will hate faffy courses where there's no spcific right or wrong way to do things. Thats my nature i guess...

I fully agree with you. And I like that word: faffy. It's not a real word, but it seems to suit the context. :D

I fully agree with you. And I like that word: faffy. It's not a real word, but it seems to suit the context. :D

Twas brilling in the slithy toves, did gyre and gimble in the wabe. Makes no sense, but is still so wonderful....

And my favorite courses were always biological/anatomical sciences and histories/politics. Probably explains my college major choices...

Math was/is my least favorite. Suck at it and I don't understand the point of learning Calc if I'm going to be a writer or something that has nothing to do with that. I'm like that with Science aswell. Second least favorite is probably English, I hate writing about different scenarios.

Irish, Its a god forsaken subject. I didn't like Organic chemistry much either...or biology-but I only had to do that for 4/6 years!

So very much math!

It wasnt that it was hard...

It was just so fekking tedious I couldnt handle it.

NOTHING made me so incredibly bored, than a white sheet of paper, with ditto'ed numbers on it.

I would gleefully do ANYTHING else.

Latin was worst for me. I usually love languages but having to read a text book (ecce romani) about Flavia ,etc and their crazy adventures just bored me stupid

Introduction to Physics.

Like I ever (or even today, for that matter) really needed to figure out just how many millimeters thick the slick of oil resting at the surface of a cauldron of boiling water is.

Sheesh, talk about esoteric info. All I wanted to do was make a goddamn bowl of pasta. Stupid-headed physics teacher.

Computer class - every single student knew more about computers and programming than did the "teacher".
It wasn't as bad as it may sound 'cause we could pretty much do what we wanted - then again, the internet was non-existant back then, the PCs didn't have an HD, monitors were monochrome, 5.25 floppies were standard, and our computers had a maximum speed of 25 MHz. So much for options - but SpaceWar was our favorite game anyway :D

I love mathematics. Set theory, fuzzy logic... all that stuff is just fascinating. But I hated being taught it, because to get to that good stuff you had to go through all sorts of boring rubbish first which I just couldn't do. Mathematics does have some very very interesting sides, it's just that it's hidden under obfusticating language. It always amuses me when people like scientists and mathematicians make fun of the arts for that very same thing, when they're just as guilty of it themselves.

(and by the way, Physical Education was my least favourite subject.)

I also love maths, best subject there's ever been. I wish they still taught Latin in our country. I also wish my school had let me take both German and French. I had to drop German in order to take history, which seems stupid.

I can't stand the French class. The teacher speaks to himself, nobody listens to him, they can see that he's just a fool on the hill ( :D ).

No, he speaks about things so useless? What will it serve in my doctor's life (or other scientific) to know that le noyau de la propostion subordonée relative épithète liée de l'adjectif du groupe nominal est en fait le CRISSE DE CÂLISSE DE TABARNAK DE SUJET À MARDE!!! Y SAIT OÙ Y PEUT SE LE METTRE SON SUJET???

*inspires to calm*
wouf... lest's calm down... no, sorry... I ... *cries*

What is this "Math" you speak of?

Can't stand math. You took a wrong choice for English. The proper term would be "Mothertoungue", since that's what I assume your implying :D

To this day I don't understand why P.E. is even counted as a subject. Here in Sweden I'm at least thankful that we can disregard it from our final GPA, if we wish.
For the love of god, why?

I'm the least active person in our school (not true, but I give that impression, I actually run (walk) two miles a day), so you'd expect that I'd do horrid in gym, but it's been nothing but a GPA booster for me (although it isn't weighted like some of my other classes).

I was so happy when I hit A-Levels and no longer had to bother with Sport or Religious Education. No more having to waste time outside doing cross-country in the cold, or playing football, or other silly team sports. RE was an equivalent waste of time, but at least it was indoors.

Eight years later and I still think all sports teachers should be flayed alive...
Come on, why wld u hate P.E, it's class. Sorry. By the way. Latin is extremely boring. aargh, so bad.

Since I'm in year 8 now, I.T. might be a bit better, but last year, I expected it to be interesting and teaching me a lot, I like computers, but my teacher taught us how to use Excel, and Word, which we couldn't possibly have learned to use in Primary school. Such fun!

Come on, why wld u hate P.E, it's class. Sorry. By the way. Latin is extremely boring. aargh, so bad.
It seemed a waste of time. The reason to go to school was to learn things to prepare you for later life; running down muddy hills and kicking balls did not achieve this. In fact, it wasted time I could have spent doing more useful things.
Only things I learned were "Whilst fielding in rounders, always stand behind the batter on the left. That way you can doze without interruption most of the time" (not a desperately useful thing) and "Running hurts: Walk".

French. :(

How could you leave out Physics?!?!?

It's like uber bad maths...

For me the hated subject of all time is science and great job thinking of this thread.

History is my favourite.
English isn't too hard.
I'm not too fond of math, except geometry (sorta).
I have no problem with science.
Social studies is my strong area.
Geography isn't super-exciting nor is it super-hard.
Deutsch ist wunderbar!
I like computers. (Hated my first high school computer class, though.)

So... I am left with physical educution. I hate it very, very, very much. Of course, what to expect from a small, thin, pale guy with glasses who seldomly spends large periods of time outside and has no interest in any sports? My hatred for it is partly a result of my total lack of athletic abilities and the low self-esteem I typically feel from having to do all of that crap that you are forced to do in physical education classes. Secondly, my hatred is partly because it seems like a useless class to me. Students can do physical activities out of school.

Thank god I only have to take a p.e. class for one semester this year and then I'm done with it for good.

my least favorite is pe for the physical activity and math. im good at it i just dont like it. i guess i should like pe because our school has one of the best pe programs in the contry. we have bike powered video games ddr and rock wall cargo nets rope latters. and then in the fitness center we have tredmils crosstraners weight lifts for all part bikes and stepers. its cool my school was in super size me. but i just really dont like math. its boring

Social studies ... boring.

Physical education wasn't too bad unless someone made you stand in the sun all day.

my least favorite is pe for the physical activity and math. im good at it i just dont like it. i guess i should like pe because our school has one of the best pe programs in the contry. we have bike powered video games ddr and rock wall cargo nets rope latters. and then in the fitness center we have tredmils crosstraners weight lifts for all part bikes and stepers. its cool my school was in super size me. but i just really dont like math. its boring

You have DDR in PE?!!! If I had that in my day I would have aced it easily... :D Instead I got a lousy "pass" grade that I thankfully didn't have to include in my final average.

I hate English with a passion. I love literature, I love debating, I love public speaking, but I cannot be doing with the way it's presented in classrooms. Physics, music, politics and maths are my best subjects and probably my favourites.

I didn't like PE but by the end of High school there wasn't much they could teach us. So we just had two groups good and shit and played football, cricket, rugby & softball. We generally just pissed around and had a laugh.

I hated maths but our teacher was cool. He used to tell us war stories about other schools he'd been to and moan about his ex-wife like Mrs Krababel in the simpsons.

I HATE Math.

For two years, I had a teacher I hated and he hated me who wouldn't explain things and wouldn't answer questions. :headbang:

Besides which, I relaly don't see the point of memorizing formulas 'because I need them later'... if I need them for a job, I'll damn well have them with me.

How can you hate P.E.? It requires no thinking on your part which is great in the morning, you get to breath fresh air and get some exercise. Only people I can think of that hate PE were the scrawny kids and the fat kids.

But my least favorite was math. All you really need to get by in life is to know the basics and some of the advanced stuff unless you're going into a field requiring it.

I HATE Math.

For two years, I had a teacher I hated and he hated me who wouldn't explain things and wouldn't answer questions. :headbang:

Besides which, I relaly don't see the point of memorizing formulas 'because I need them later'... if I need them for a job, I'll damn well have them with me.

So you can completly forget them in the exams

duh!

So you can completly forget them in the exams

duh!

Yep, that's about the point they had for me.

So you can completly forget them in the exams

duh!
which reminds me... anyone else think there's faaaaar too much empahsis placed on exams? (at least in the british system - i can't speak for any others)

Ugh, Etymology is the worst. It's not that I have a hard time doing it (in fact, I've never scored below 98% on the subject at any time), it's just that it's so unnecessary. It's absolutely ridiculous! There's no need for it, unless you want to be a writer... Even then, you really don't need it.

which reminds me... anyone else think there's faaaaar too much empahsis placed on exams? (at least in the british system - i can't speak for any others)

Over the last 3 years I would have said that there was too much stress heaped on students as a result of exams but to be honest if I had actually put in the time and effort it wouldnt have been such a big deal. I do however think that more emphasis should be put on extra-curricular activities as a plus in jobs and university applications

Over the last 3 years I would have said that there was too much stress heaped on students as a result of exams but to be honest if I had actually put in the time and effort it wouldnt have been such a big deal. I do however think that more emphasis should be put on extra-curricular activities as a plus in jobs and university applications
i think the effort you put in throughout the year should count for something in a very real sense. you can do sod all throughout the year and then just revise and work really hard at exam time and do well. conversely you can work hard all year but have a memory like a sieve resulting in, at the end of the year, all that hard work going to waste because the only thing that actually counts is the end of year exam. then there are those poor souls who just can't handle exams (be it the technique or the stress) and always seem to end up falling down at the end of the year.

now, i know there's coursework - but that only ever counts for up to 30% of the grade... meaning still 70% hangs on the end of year exam; usually more. a system of continuous teacher assessment coupled with end-of-term exams that also count toward the final grade would be far preferable imo - combined with a standard end-of-year assessment worth, say, 30% rather than the 70% it is now. oh and keep coursework. this would allow students with these different skills (exam taking or throughout-year effort) to shine, as well as promoting working harder throughout the year... something wich you can avoid at the moment in leu of swotting up loads at the end of the year.


all i'm trying to say is that putting so much emphasis on passing one or two exams at the end of the year(s) puts an unnecessary amount of strain and stress on students at that time, and is also vastly unfair (due to the differing exam-taking abilities of students). continuous assessment would be much better imho

however i also agree with you in that extra-curricular activities should certainly be taken into account across your a-levels (perhaps a number of points evenly distributed and added to your UCAS (if its still called that) points)



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i think the effort you put in throughout the year should count for something in a very real sense. you can do sod all throughout the year and then just revise and work really hard at exam time and do well. conversely you can work hard all year but have a memory like a sieve resulting in, at the end of the year, all that hard work going to waste because the only thing that actually counts is the end of year exam. then there are those poor souls who just can't handle exams (be it the technique or the stress) and always seem to end up falling down at the end of the year.

now, i know there's coursework - but that only ever counts for up to 30% of the grade... meaning still 70% hangs on the end of year exam; usually more. a system of continuous teacher assessment coupled with end-of-term exams that also count toward the final grade would be far preferable imo - combined with a standard end-of-year assessment worth, say, 30% rather than the 70% it is now. oh and keep coursework. this would allow students with these different skills (exam taking or throughout-year effort) to shine, as well as promoting working harder throughout the year... something wich you can avoid at the moment in leu of swotting up loads at the end of the year.


all i'm trying to say is that putting so much emphasis on passing one or two exams at the end of the year(s) puts an unnecessary amount of strain and stress on students at that time, and is also vastly unfair (due to the differing exam-taking abilities of students). continuous assessment would be much better imho

however i also agree with you in that extra-curricular activities should certainly be taken into account across your a-levels (perhaps a number of points evenly distributed and added to your UCAS (if its still called that) points)



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Damm I cant argue with this at all since i'm an example of most of the above :p

I sat one of my chemistry modules in January and only got 25 out of 90 after having done no work all year but managed to pull it all together in the last two months to get 75 in a resit. When I got my mid-year report I was predicted 3 D's and that was definitely a shock to the system.

As for coursework I dont really think its much of a solution either given the amount of input a teacher can give when it is being written. Teachers arent allowed to actually correct it when it is written but they can give an in depth guide to writing it before you start and if you follow that guide you are almost guaranteed full marks

I voted other. It depends on the TYPE of math or science. I love algebra, but I hate geometry. I love bio, but I hate chem. And if it were between chem and geometry I hate them equally.

Inspired by this article at CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/08/17/school.subjects.ap/index.html

So I wanted to see if it was true. What school subject do/did YOU hate the most?

Poll up!
Other:

"Gender"/"Cultural" Studies classes that are just a cover for radical "The modern cultural paradigm is evil, and you are a part of it" PC tripe.

i detest maths, tis completely useless......

RE/S (Religious Education/Studies).

The most boring, useless class I ever had the misfortune of being forced to go to. The teachers were either boring or over zealous and everything taught in it was useless. Junk science was frequently used to justify and prove dogma (and even as a GSCE student I could see how absurd some of the claims were, and if I was ever in doubt I could just ask the physics teacher). It was also compulsory, even into 6th form (stupid Catholic school), though there the remit of the class was also extended to drugs which took absurdity to a whole new level (I shit you not, this is a real quotation "Cannabis use may lead to addiction which could mean addicts will have to steal cars to get their next fix.")

Though it was fun answering back to the teachers to the point when they all thought I was a huge pot-head :confused:. I even managed to take a lesson, the teacher tried to shut me up by saying "would like to take the lesson" and I agreed. I thought I did quite well. :)

Damm I cant argue with this at all since i'm an example of most of the above :p

I sat one of my chemistry modules in January and only got 25 out of 90 after having done no work all year but managed to pull it all together in the last two months to get 75 in a resit. When I got my mid-year report I was predicted 3 D's and that was definitely a shock to the system.

As for coursework I dont really think its much of a solution either given the amount of input a teacher can give when it is being written. Teachers arent allowed to actually correct it when it is written but they can give an in depth guide to writing it before you start and if you follow that guide you are almost guaranteed full marks
ah you're one of them :mad:
same with a friend of mine - he never did a jot of work all through the 2 years of a-level, was constantly in trouble and was failing class tests etc, but revised really quite hard at the end of it all and just managed to walk through it all. bastard!
in contrast there was me who generally worked quite hard throughout the 2 years, did quite well in class tests and very well in the courseworks, but when i came down to the final exams i just let myself down because, while i can understand and do the work just as well as my friend, i have an awful memory - so dispite revising (allbeit somewhat less vigourously than said friend due to being knackered after 2 years of hard work) the exams simply did not go well. as a result i didn't earn the grades i deserved from 2 years of good work just because of the way the examination/assessment system works and my own poor memory :rolleyes:

then another friend of mine was in even worse position: he's smart, works hard and does well during the year; however he's not too good at coursework (don't know why) and just crumbles under pressure in the exams... he did really badly as a result dispite being able, smart and working hard throughout the a-level years.


this is why i believe the assessment system we currently have, that puts too much emphasis on the end of year examination, is unfair. its unfair that some kids can exploit it to not work much but still manage to swot up enough at the end to do well (like yourself and the first friend i described); and its unfair that other kids can work well and hard throughout the whole course but if they fluff up the exam, for whatever reason, this all goes to waste and the effort and knowledge is for nothing. so, by placing so much emphasis on the exam all you are testing is how good a student's memory is and how good they are at taking exams! a more balanced assessment system would be more fair to all - stopping those few from taking advantage of the system, and their opposites from slipping unfairly through the net having worked so hard for so long. bring on continuous assessment!


of course there are many middle-ground students who neither exploit the sytem nor are let-down by it. in such a reform as i have laid out in my last post, these kids would not be hard done by (certainly would do no worse) and, conversley, they would even encouraged/forced to mainatin a certain level of consistancy in their work - moreso than at present

so its fairer and encourages harder work throughout the year... its win-win! :)


hell, this quote from the BBC website about a student who attained 10 grade A a-levels this year says it all:

"I have always been really fortunate to have a memory that works in my favour," said Ms Yan, who was born in China and came to England when she was three.

memory. thats all its about at the mo.





and if students who failed the year were required to repeat it, as per the american or german system, we would not only have a fairer student assessment system but also one that encourages consistant hard-work and produces a generally higher standard of education!



sorry i feel quite strongly about this... can you tell? ;)
might start a thread specifically about this, in fact.

quote source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4162816.stm)

I have NEVER had a mind for foreign languages... sad coming from Canada, and not being able to speak French... I just can't keep all the different rules of how to pronounce a word depending on what context it's in. It's all crazy to me.

I loved math back in highschool. It was a breeze. Science was interesting too, only because my teacher let me slack off and talk about black hole theory, rather than the rubbish we were doing. I love history, social science, and such because of the personal aspect and ... hey, interesting things happen to people now and way back. :)
Yep... it was foreign languages that I didn't get... they need to have one word for each separate thing, instead of one word that's pronounced in different ways to say different things. I'll never understand the masculine/feminine pronunciations of words in French... never.

took absurdity to a whole new level (I shit you not, this is a real quotation "Cannabis use may lead to addiction which could mean addicts will have to steal cars to get their next fix.")

Though it was fun answering back to the teachers to the point when they all thought I was a huge pot-head :confused:. I even managed to take a lesson, the teacher tried to shut me up by saying "would like to take the lesson" and I agreed. I thought I did quite well. :)
lmao excellent! :p
god i can't believe they're teaching such utter BS at school - i mean its wrong :headbang:


i taught our Information Technology AS-level class for about a week when we were learning about graphics (being a graphic designer since i was about 16)... i was just answering every question and correcting the teacher so he said "you do it!" - and i did :D
he was a proper nice bloke though - not annoyed at all. in fact i think he really enjoyed the time off sitting at the back of the class surfing the net and going out for extended fag breaks :p

Swedish (English equivalent).

My new teacher is extremely dull, with a monotone voice and everything. She´s like a Vogon: Highly bearucratic. But that isn´t the only reason, all the lessons and homework is about grammatics, and I HATE grammatics. What need do I have to know what 'pluskvamperfekt' means in RL?! Dang!

Foreign languages (english and german) and math I love. Math because it makes me mad. I keep forgetting the name of the sum when you multiply, so I get lower grades (BLEEP), english because I get straight A's and german because it actually challenges me a bit, which english haven´t done in...ever.
When I started school I was better than most fourth graders, and it just got worse and worse. I´m happy about the grades though :P

I grew up with bad asthma and many P.E. teachers who sersiously must have thought I made it up. P.E. was torture for me because of the mile run and these teachers who treated me very poorly. However, now I can run 2 miles with no problems and I've never been out of shape but couldn't handle cartovastular activity which stimulated my asthma. P.E. teachers should be educated in health problems as much as fitness because every person has different needs and difficulties with fitness.

I was going to say math, but then I saw foreign language and Spanish came to mind. Bleh >.<

Religious Ed. - what more can be said? shame it wasn't a option in the poll. i voted for maths instead of 'other' (i dislike maths and RE equally, but maths was a surer option). The thing is, you can actually see a point in learning maths, but NONE in RE (at least not as we were taught it, we didn't even 'explore other faiths', just 'tackled issues').

English. I couldn't give a shit about symbolism or imagery, or any of that illogical "interpretation", and didn't want to read mediocre and overhyped books... I could be doing something I liked instead, especially AP calculus and physics.

English. I couldn't give a shit about symbolism or imagery, or any of that illogical "interpretation", and didn't want to read mediocre and overhyped books... I could be doing something I liked instead, especially AP calculus and physics.



Wow, we're mental opposites :D

Math never works out for me. ME specifically. No matter how hard I try, no matter how closely I follow examples from the book, the answer always comes out wrong.

But not on tests. It's amazing.

which reminds me... anyone else think there's faaaaar too much empahsis placed on exams? (at least in the british system - i can't speak for any others)

Yeah, espcially since most of the marks come from coursework anyway.

Religious Education,
I Disliked The Class Because They Never Really Coved Minority Religions. Only Christianity/The Different Areas Of It...

:confused: THERE I WAS TWENTY YEARS OR SO THINKING THER WAS ONLY ONE RELIGION j/k

Yeah, espcially since most of the marks come from coursework anyway.
not for my subjects/examination boards they bloody didn't :rolleyes:

... Everyone hates math? ... >.<

I love math and english. Social studies is okay, hate science.

Haven't done PE in years, so I don't really have an opinion there. There's a lot to be said for hiding behind the bleachers ;)

I belong to the category that has a very easy time learning math, so it ended up being one of my favorite subjects. The subject I hated the most was history. I just find it all both rather pointless and subjective, but then that's just my opinion, so no offense to you history buffs.
This is why I dislike math. I am in the honours (advanced) math program and it is still to easy. Most of the class is in the honors program because of the work ethic not their natural ability, so it tends to be pretty silent. :( I have both Honors Math and Calculus, man I am going to need an iPod.

In Canada, you can drop any one class from your GPA. I enjoyed gym, enbarassing the "jocks" in the accademic classes then embarass the "nerds" in PE. I got an A even though I failed fitness. For the people here who hate how embarassing PE is, think about how embarassing math or history is for the "jocks" when the have to do something in front of the class.


[quote=Pure Metal]i think the effort you put in throughout the year should count for something in a very real sense. you can do sod all throughout the year and then just revise and work really hard at exam time and do well In my part of Canada you get to seperate marks. The first was your standard grades that is based on the quality of your work. The other was based on your workhabits. You would get a G for good, a S for satisfactory, and a N for needs improvement. It is based on weather you complete your homework each day, how you act in class, etc. It is kinda inconsistant. Me and my friend had a seating plan made for chemistry (we played poker during the lecture) and we both got G's.
i know there's coursework - but that only ever counts for up to 30% of the grade Most classses coursework makes up over 50% of your mark, but in my math class it counts for 0%(but there is a good reason for it). The final test cannot make up more than 50% your grade either. Its usually 20%.

While I like Social Studies and History, I hate how the teachers tend to have a bias on everything. For example, on a test there was a question "Was the Laurier Era Canada (1900-1911) a good place for immigrants to live. One girl answered yes, and did quite poorly on that question. Canada was a bunch of bigots back then, but she said life still tended to be better than their country of origin (which was probably true).

I have NEVER had a mind for foreign languages... sad coming from Canada, and not being able to speak French... I just can't keep all the different rules of how to pronounce a word depending on what context it's in. It's all crazy to me.
Canada has done a lowsy job at teaching a second language. The should start teaching it sround grade one. The govt has even funded a study that found that having five years of second language in elementary than five years in secondary.

I hate English most of all in school. The books are all pretty lame (Lord of the Flies was the only one close to being anygood). The coarse basicly consist of reading shorts stories and agruing something about in a paragraph or you read a noveland have to argue several points in several paragraphs. A fair bit of time on imagry, too. I hate imagry :mad:. Say what you mean.

I feel sorry for all of you who had to take Religion study in school. Luckily it is unconsitutional to teach it in a public school.

PS--What does a-level and as-level mean.
PPS--I hate it when it takes me so long to write a post that the cookie expires and I have to log in again.

Canada has done a lowsy job at teaching a second language. The should start teaching it sround grade one. The govt has even funded a study that found that having five years of second language in elementary than five years in secondary.

I hate English most of all in school. The books are all pretty lame (Lord of the Flies was the only one close to being anygood). The coarse basicly consist of reading shorts stories and agruing something about in a paragraph or you read a noveland have to argue several points in several paragraphs. A fair bit of time on imagry, too. I hate imagry :mad:. Say what you mean.



I'm from Canada, and they started teaching french in grade one at my school. Grade 1-8 and then at least one year of it in High School. I hated it with a passion, seemed like we never learned anything new after grade 5 or 6. You got taught Lord of the Flies too? Amazing, when I read it in school I had about 3-4 copies of it (they kept falling apart). I loved the book, for my essay I compared the characters in the book to the leaders of allied and axis nations during World War Two. Ah...grade ten english was great.

Math is too easy. Specifically, math classes spend days to weeks teaching a topic that I have grasped thoroughly in the first twenty minutes. By halfway through a typical math class, I was zoned out, doodling in my notebook. Or reading a good novel. And I'd still ace every test.

But I certainly didn't hate it. WHat did I hate? Social studies.

History is fine. It fascinates me. But Sociology and Psychology classes were horrendously pointless. I don't believe a word of that crap.

Math is too easy. Specifically, math classes spend days to weeks teaching a topic that I have grasped thoroughly in the first twenty minutes. By halfway through a typical math class, I was zoned out, doodling in my notebook. Or reading a good novel. And I'd still ace every test.

I now hate you.

:p

what's with all the anti-P.E people you just play games and compete with rivals

I hate foreign languages its a boring waste of time that were forced to do

all I do in maths is mess around :p

You got taught Lord of the Flies too? Amazing, when I read it in school I had about 3-4 copies of it (they kept falling apart). I loved the book, for my essay I compared the characters in the book to the leaders of allied and axis nations during World War Two. Ah...grade ten english was great.
We don't get to pick what we are arguing, so it ends up being something really hard to argue like "Why was (or was not) the point at which piggy died the best spot for him to die symbolicly?" How do you find/make up three points with examples for that. All the other books we read basicly have anti-bigotry as a theme, which gets boring after five years of English.

But Sociology and Psychology classes were horrendously pointless. I don't believe a word of that crap.
Only psychology is available at my school and as an elective. Our socials is almost entirely history.

Math is too easy. Specifically, math classes spend days to weeks teaching a topic that I have grasped thoroughly in the first twenty minutes. By halfway through a typical math class, I was zoned out, doodling in my notebook. Or reading a good novel. And I'd still ace every test.Replace "reading a good novel" with "playing poker" and that would be me in Math, too. I'm in the honors math, too. My mom was shoked when in grade ten (the first year I was in honors) I said "way to easy" when she asked me how math was. To be fair to the school though I am/was the best student in my grade at math.

I voted for P.E. not because I disliked it per se, but rather because I prefered the other classes. Judging from some of the posts in this thread, I would have assumed that English was the most highly disregarded subject.

I voted for P.E. not because I disliked it per se, but rather because I prefered the other classes.

you prefer work to fun and games :eek:

you prefer work to fun and games :eek:

I prefer radiators to rain.

I prefer radiators to rain.

you do! :eek:

but wouldn't you prefer being in the middle of a rugby scrum to sitting in class bored

Ah, math was easy. Other than Geometry, I could do about half the homework and still get almost perfect marks on my tests. If anything, it was horribly boring because most of the class revolved around reviewing homework that I didn't do.
I listened to Styx songs in my head...and, oddly, all of my Math teachers loved me. I must've been unconciously hitting on them or something.

I've had some pretty bad classes. Ceramics was a pain in the butt, mainly because I was the only kid in the class who couldn't coil a pot, but could move 25 pounds of clay very well...meaning I spent most of class hauling (apparently) moldly clay around. BUT, I met people, which is cool.

No, the only class that was all bad was my Health class. I was mixed with possibly the dumbest kids in the world, had to listen to tiring lectures about self-esteem and the dangers of drugs, read through a packet of pro-abstinence bull****, read "Fighting Invisible Tigers" (google it. Possibly worse than "mein Kampf) and was assigned loads of homework that I didn't do. The one homework assignment I HAD to do was a 5 page paper on medical marijuana. I don't even remember what the hell I said, I just remember that I had to cite sources, and I didn't ONCE cite a legitimate source.
Ugh. The only GOOD part was that I was certified by the American Red Cross(or some group) in CPR.

Bah. All you liberal arts majors.

"Fighting Invisible Tigers" (google it. Possibly worse than "mein Kampf)
Worse how? I googled it and it said its a book a self-esteem and stress management.

Worse how? I googled it and it said its a book a self-esteem and stress management.

Look for a review. It's full of cliches, stupid analogies, the usual "assert yourself" bullcrap, and, IIRC, written by someone who is totally unqualified to write on self-esteem.
Plus, the cover is really, REALLY ugly.

computers I know how to get on the internet and that's about it

FUK U MRS. HUFFMAN ... sry just had 2 get it out of my system i already started skool

At my old school, we had to take a swimming class, once every week, the entire year. The pool was frigid, the showers disgusting (clumps of hair everywhere...) and the evilly sadistic instructor we all thought was a pervert (she would change in her suit in front of us).....and, well, in one unit, we had to do a costume-included synchronized swimming routine to music. Kansas', "Carry on my Way to the Sun." Mhm, well, passed that at an 88...not too bad. I still remember how to do a somersault in the water (such useful knowledge).



Will sucks. He has huge hands. :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: (don't ask about this. You don't know what it means. Guaranteed.)

I don't really dislike any subject. I picked PE though because I got a C there.

And that completely ruinned my beautiful report card.

Chinese can be pretty bad, but I was moved down a class so now it's incredibly easy in a scary kind of way.

I like math. Math is fun.

oh I know now...
CHOICES. That class sucks. It's about drug abuse, stress management, sex ed... All that evil stuff.

P.E., hands down. Or at least the school classes. In high school I have had and exercised the option to design an independent study curriculum to earn P.E. credit. However, back in middle school P.E. was the biggest crock of bullshit you could find. We had these weird tests at the beginning and end of the term that the middle did not address in the least, and the middle units involved the teachers coming up with a game, almost always involving a ball, briefly explaining the rules, and then telling us to go play it. Naturally, if we didn't have the coordination (volleyball), speed (soccer), hadn't heard the rules before (kickball), or had a hard time remembering all of them because they were different in class than in the real world (basketball) we were just on our own and subject to the chastisement of our classmates who had taken this kind of class for years on end and already figured it all out.

Dodgeball is the only activity, including warm-ups and tests, that I ever liked from that class and I still choose to play it over just chatting when my teachers think we need a break and take us down to the gym. My independent study involved Bikram yoga, something I actually get some benefit and education from, and would have involved DDR if I'd been into it when I took my independent credit.

I love science most of all, followed closely by math. English and French tie for third, depending on the day and the teacher, though I hope my teachers won't change. I look forward to Health, I hear it's a fun class. The Social Studies category is okay - the fun level really depends on how and by whom the material is presented.

See, I was the opposite in the response to being good at Math. I was a wiz at it, and because so much of time was spent in classes that didn't "challenge" me, I found it dreadfully boring and wasteful.

And well, I loved everything else :D.

Same here, but the boredom ended with middle school. Now I'm going to be sophomore in pre-calculus! Yay for teachers that understand and admin that don't wrap students in red tape.

Math...is...EVIL...

I love math, but understand why people hate it. For me it just makes sense. The thought of canceling out cosine functions to reduce a triginometric equation to tan(x)sin(x) makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

I like physics even more, because it's like math with more thinking. You can't just follow a formula (ironic since physics has about 300 formulas), you have to think to come up with the answer.

However, I don't understand why everyone hates gym. Maybe it's good at my school, but here in gym we get to pick our own units. I like playing a lot of sports, and there's usually something I like. I've gotten to do badminton, soccer, and tennis. There's also the fact that I always seem to be in a gym class with lots of my friends.

My least favorite is English. I hate it. I love a good book, but I hate a bad one and when I don't like a book it becomes slow and painful to go through. It took me 8 cumulitive hours to read "Ethan Frome" which is 100 pages. I also never get the symbolism, and my writing is only average.

I always hated physical education - fucking team sports! :mad:

I hated math, but not as much as Phys Ed...

Thank goodness hardly anyone said my pet subjects of Geography and Science (I'm a qualified Geography / Biology / Environmental Science teacher and would have been sad to see that!) LOL

We don't get to pick what we are arguing, so it ends up being something really hard to argue like "Why was (or was not) the point at which piggy died the best spot for him to die symbolicly?" How do you find/make up three points with examples for that. All the other books we read basicly have anti-bigotry as a theme, which gets boring after five years of English.


Only psychology is available at my school and as an elective. Our socials is almost entirely history.

Replace "reading a good novel" with "playing poker" and that would be me in Math, too. I'm in the honors math, too. My mom was shoked when in grade ten (the first year I was in honors) I said "way to easy" when she asked me how math was. To be fair to the school though I am/was the best student in my grade at math.

Mathematics comes as naturally to me as breathing. Which is probably why I decided against a career dealing with them(Despite my degree in physics).

A wise man once said, "If you are absolutely certain you are capable of succeeding at something, then why do it?"

Mathematics comes as naturally to me as breathing. Which is probably why I decided against a career dealing with them(Despite my degree in physics).

A wise man once said, "If you are absolutely certain you are capable of succeeding at something, then why do it?"Which is why I hunt with handguns and Black Powder firearms.

I would rather not leave my income up to chance though. Success in being able to buy food is a good thing.

At school I hate Physics, Chemistry, Geography, History, Drama and P.E.

The actual topics of Physics, Geography and History I actually enjoy... just not at school. Whether it was the sylabus, teacher, learning method etc I don't know. I just know school somehow managed to make subjects I really enjoy become incredibly dull.

Maths at school, I found really dull. I could not stay awake during those classes, except when me and my mates were playing games at the back of the class. Which makes it a little ironic that I now have a Masters in the subject, and am a professional statistician.

Though my school did have one neat trick to make us pay attention in Maths. It was a boys school, with only ever one or two women teachers in each year during my time. One of whom was always young, extremely good looking and teaching Maths to the 13-15 year olds, generally while wearing a very short skirt. That worked.