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If Jon Stewart actually ran for President...

Brians Test
17-08-2005, 18:56
on an independent ticket, would he be likely to take more votes from the Democrat or Republican candidate? Perhaps it would be equal? I think of Ross Perot who took more votes from Clinton in 1992, but more votes from Dole in 1996 (if you believe the exit polls).
Skippydom
17-08-2005, 18:58
I know I'm a democrat and I love Jon Stewart! So he'd take mine
Undelia
17-08-2005, 18:58
I don’t think he would. Most people don’t take celebrities seriously, and rightfully so.

Personally, I wouldn’t vote for him. He’s funny, but a bit too far left economically. The Libertarian party gets my vote.
Mind Sickness
17-08-2005, 19:02
Jon Stewart is about the only celebrity that has the smarts to run an entire country. If he ran for president, I would become an American citizen just so I could vote for him.

Don't let the funny faces fool you, Jon Stewart is an insane political savant.
Evil Arch Conservative
17-08-2005, 19:02
He'd probably end up taking more from the Democratic candidate. I'd vote for him and I'd normally vote for a Republican. He's probably at the most a centerist, but I think he's a 'safe choice' no matter where he stands. Not that I have anything against centerists, but he's probably a bit more liberal then centerist. I'm not familier with his politics. He could be libertarian, for all I know.

I don’t think he would. Most people don’t take celebrities seriously, and rightfully so.

Are abilities as an entertainer and abilities as a wise decision maker mutually exclusive?
Drunk commies deleted
17-08-2005, 19:03
He'd take more votes from democrats. I don't think most republicans would like him because he's probably considered part of the liberal news media even though he doesn't do a real news program.
Undelia
17-08-2005, 19:08
Are abilities as an entertainer and abilities as a wise decision maker mutually exclusive?
Often. The abilities necessary to be an entertainer usually make one far more unbalanced than the average human being. Just like intelligent people are more susceptible to depression, creative people are more susceptible to irrational thought.
Ay-way
17-08-2005, 19:10
He'd kill the Democrats, but that's OK with me. Even though I'm a liberal I think the Democrats have been the Millhouse of politics for 30 years now, other than the Clinton years, and it's time they were replaced.

He'd get a lot of people who don't usually vote to get out there and vote... if he had some good backing and a decent running mate he would make things really interesting.
Stephistan
17-08-2005, 19:11
on an independent ticket, would he be likely to take more votes from the Democrat or Republican candidate? Perhaps it would be equal? I think of Ross Perot who took more votes from Clinton in 1992, but more votes from Dole in 1996 (if you believe the exit polls).

I think if Jon Stewart ran for president he'd win!

But I highly doubt he wants the job.
Colodia
17-08-2005, 19:14
Heh, Stewart can tap into the unused political resource of junky 18 year olds who are high 24/7 and watch Comedy Central just as much. :D

I wish he'd run.
Eichen
17-08-2005, 19:14
I'm a huge fan of Jon Stewart, but I wouldn't consider voting for him before I knew exactly where he stands on the important issues.

Why would anybody? :confused:
Evil Arch Conservative
17-08-2005, 19:17
Often. The abilities necessary to be an entertainer usually make one far more unbalanced than the average human being. Just like intelligent people are more susceptible to depression, creative people are more susceptible to irrational thought.

That sounds like a generalization. I guess all psychological profiling is, though. I'm sure we agree that there can be exceptions. It would seem that the kind of person that could pull off a humorous spoof of an evening news show has to know what he's making fun of thoroughly before he can thoroughly make fun of it. As the saying goes: You have to be smart to act stupid.
Stephistan
17-08-2005, 19:17
I don’t think he would. Most people don’t take celebrities seriously, and rightfully so.

So Ronald Reagan should not of been president! (I agree!)

Jessie Venture should not of been Governor? ( I think he did a good job)

Arnie should not be Governor of Cali? (Again, I agree)

Seems only Jessie did a good job..lol
Mind Sickness
17-08-2005, 19:25
I'm a huge fan of Jon Stewart, but I wouldn't consider voting for him before I knew exactly where he stands on the important issues.

Why would anybody? :confused:

Stewart tends to make it fairly obvious where he stands on issues during his show. He definately leans to the left a bit, but he's almost inhumanly practical.
Jah Bootie
17-08-2005, 19:26
I'm a huge fan of Jon Stewart, but I wouldn't consider voting for him before I knew exactly where he stands on the important issues.

Why would anybody? :confused:
Knowing where politicians say they stand on issues is of limited utility, because they always lie and/or change their minds. I think it's more important to get a feeling for what kind of person they are and whether or not they will make the right decision when the time comes.

As for Stewart, I would vote for him. He couldn't be worst than what either party is bound to put forward. If he did run, which he won't, he wouldn't win because he is pretty left-leaning and people don't think he would take things seriously.

His savage burn on Crossfire made me cheer out loud though.
[NS]Simonist
17-08-2005, 19:33
I think if you look at it seriously, Jon Stewart would have a chance at at least getting enough of the vote to endorse third-party representatives with government endowment for the next election, but to say he'd win? Don't let your own blind love for the man fool you; tons of people hate him. I myself am a huge fan, and I met the guy, he's really witty and clever and just AMAZING with words. However, for every one of us out there who thinks this guy's absolutely brilliant, there's somebody who's just as passionate in their crusade to mark him as nothing more than a figurehead, spitting out the hard work of nameless writers.

It's also hard to call who would give more votes -- he seems to certainly have a biased dislike for the right-wing policy makers, but he also seems to have a generalized distaste for American politics. I did ask him if he hated one side more than the other, and he smiled the charming Jon Stewart smile, rolled his eyes, and said, in so many words, that it wasn't a matter of who he hated more, it was a matter of who he disliked less.

But for the record, he'd get my vote. Especially if he got Stephen Colbert in on it (Congressmen can't shut him down! The FCC can't shut him down! The man's a powerhouse!)
Eichen
17-08-2005, 19:36
I understnad Jon is a bona fide centrist. I think people think he leans to the left because of his obvious nod to Kerry, but that doesn't mean he's more liberal than libertarian. Who knows?

It's an entertaining topic, but in reality, it's right up there with "Would you vote for the Snuffalupagus?" in terms of likelihood. :D
Undelia
17-08-2005, 19:39
It would seem that the kind of person that could pull off a humorous spoof of an evening news show has to know what he's making fun of thoroughly before he can thoroughly make fun of it. As the saying goes: You have to be smart to act stupid.
I’ve noticed that often, when interviewing the rare economic libertarian or pseudo economic libertarian, Stewart doesn’t have a clue. That is what’s most important to me in a candidate.
Oxymoronics
17-08-2005, 19:40
I understnad Jon is a bona fide centrist. I think people think he leans to the left because of his obvious nod to Kerry, but that doesn't mean he's more liberal than libertarian. Who knows?

It's an entertaining topic, but in reality, it's right up there with "Would you vote for the Snuffalupagus?" in terms of likelihood. :D


Exactly So please everyone just get over it. Stewart, a very interesting and smart/funny man does political satire not politics.
UpwardThrust
17-08-2005, 19:40
So Ronald Reagan should not of been president! (I agree!)

Jessie Venture should not of been Governor? ( I think he did a good job)

Arnie should not be Governor of Cali? (Again, I agree)

Seems only Jessie did a good job..lol
Yeah as loud as that man was he did alright
Sumamba Buwhan
17-08-2005, 21:00
If Jon doesn't want to get into politics we have to force him in. I love the guy and he can be serious when he has to be - also I believe it is obvious that he says what he believes at those times when he is serious and not what makes him look good or whatever will make people like him
Epsonee
17-08-2005, 22:21
If Jon doesn't want to get into politics we have to force him in. I love the guy and he can be serious when he has to be - also I believe it is obvious that he says what he believes at those times when he is serious and not what makes him look good or whatever will make people like him
I think the obvious first step would be to, well, inform John. He might make it a part of a Indesision 2008. That would be kinda funny to see, him talking how people want him to run for Presedent. So someone who is reading this needs to right a book or star in a movie. Then go on his show and tell him.
Ffc2
17-08-2005, 23:24
i would vote for him
German Nightmare
17-08-2005, 23:27
If Jon Stewart actually ran for President... I'd even look into becoming a U.S. citizen just so I could vote him into office!!!

I do believe though, that if he ran on a independent ticket, he'd take away the Democrats' support. Don't really believe the Republicans like him all that much (or do they? Could be wrong... BTW, thanks for reminding me to visit comedycentral...)
Epsonee
18-08-2005, 00:13
If Jon Stewart actually ran for President... I'd even look into becoming a U.S. citizen just so I could vote him into office!!!

I do believe though, that if he ran on a independent ticket, he'd take away the Democrats' support. Don't really believe the Republicans like him all that much (or do they? Could be wrong... BTW, thanks for reminding me to visit comedycentral...)
I would become a US citizen to vote for him, too. I think he's way to 'left' for hearthland America. I doubt any Republican could like him. He bashes their party every weekday. BTW, does his show have a web forum?
The Silver Fist
18-08-2005, 00:23
Republicans with a sense of humor tend to like him. I know I do, and while you cant really say Im a Republican I do lean right in many issues and I have republican friends who watch his show every night.
Gargantua City State
18-08-2005, 00:35
Stewart running for president would be about the only thing that America could do to get me to want to move there. :) Man, that guy is funny.
Wonder if we could get him to become a Canadian citizen and run for office here...? :)
Epsonee
18-08-2005, 00:39
Stewart running for president would be about the only thing that America could do to get me to want to move there. :) Man, that guy is funny.
Wonder if we could get him to become a Canadian citizen and run for office here...? :)Thats an excellent idea. We need to right a book, appear on his show and beg him to run in Canada. If he did I would learn to hack so I could ensure he wins. :p
Colodia
18-08-2005, 00:40
No way Canadians, Stewart is OURS and we need him more than you guys!
Lunatic Goofballs
18-08-2005, 00:42
Often. The abilities necessary to be an entertainer usually make one far more unbalanced than the average human being. Just like intelligent people are more susceptible to depression, creative people are more susceptible to irrational thought.

Nonsense!

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Epsonee
18-08-2005, 00:47
No way Canadians, Stewart is OURS and we need him more than you guys!
Hey, you guys have illegaly imposed tarrifs on our softwood lumber. If you give us Stewart we'll call it even. We could at least share him.
Colodia
18-08-2005, 00:48
Hey, you guys have illegaly imposed tarrifs on our softwood lumber. If you give us Stewart we'll call it even. We could at least share him.
We might as well hand over Jesus!
New petersburg
18-08-2005, 00:51
I don’t think he would. Most people don’t take celebrities seriously, and rightfully so.



[cough]Reagan[Cough]
Lunatic Goofballs
18-08-2005, 00:51
We might as well hand over Jesus!

If you give us Jon Stewart, we'll take Brendan Fraser off your hands too. :p
Epsonee
18-08-2005, 00:56
We might as well hand over Jesus!
You keep him. I do not think he will be to fond of our same-sex marriages, easy access to pot, or our abortions.
Colodia
18-08-2005, 00:59
If you give us Jon Stewart, we'll take Brendan Fraser off your hands too. :p
...First take back your damn Canadian Avril Lavigne! And her entire wardrobe full of ties!
Epsonee
18-08-2005, 01:03
...First take back your damn Canadian Avril Lavigne! And her entire wardrobe full of ties!
How about we send her to North Korea. We do not have to deal with her anymore and she'll make Kim want to comit suicide. Thats two birds, one stone.
Colodia
18-08-2005, 01:05
How about we send her to North Korea. We do not have to deal with her anymore and she'll make Kim want to comit suicide. Thats two birds, one stone.
No, you want Stewart, you take the pair dammit! We Americans can laugh as Canada falls from the inside-out. And then Stewart will just return to New York again and we'll all be merry happy go go sunshine.
Epsonee
18-08-2005, 01:49
No, you want Stewart, you take the pair dammit! We Americans can laugh as Canada falls from the inside-out. And then Stewart will just return to New York again and we'll all be merry happy go go sunshine.
Someone has to go go to Korea. We'll do it if Connie Rice goes to Korea.