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Political correctness is getting way out of hand nowadays. Now you get dirty looks if you call someone 'gay' and not 'homosexual', or if you call someone black instead of 'african american'.


Alright, !!! without flaming !!! and hurting other people's feelings... too much... what groups/types of people piss you off the most???


-really crazy liberals (ie: michael moore, whoopee goldberg, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Madonna, Howard Dean...)
-members of PETA
-extreme feminists
-extreme conservatives (christian fundamentalists -the kind who bomb abortion clinics)
-muslim fundamentalists
-black people who were brought up in a wealthy neighborhoods who think theyre 'ghetto' because they wear baggy pants and listen to Dr. Dre loud in the $30,000 car their rich CEO parents bought them.
-ufo/alien conspirists
-hippies!!!! my god i hate them so much
-artists who are famous for throwing a bucket of paint randomely on a canvas (or drawing a red line a blue dot)
-gothic kids who think life isnt worth living and they go out of their way to try and not be like anyone else in any way shape of form (go kill yourselves)

... the list goes on and on....

BRING ON THE CONTROVERSY MY MINIONS!!!!!

Only in a place so polarized as the US. There's no real problem with it in Germany.

I call my black friends black all the time and they don't mind. In fact, I've never used the term "African-American". I think maybe your overreacting.

I hate being called "homosexual." Gay is much more prefered. I always refer to myself as gay, not homosexual.

I call my friends black like...whenever I can.

Hell, I sometimes use that n-word and see how far they would let me get away with it. Though being half-Hispanic, it's not as bad as if I used it if I was white.

im not racist...but I'd say two things that really piss me off are:

1. 'Gangsta' black people who where pants and shirts 14 times their size and have 'bling bling' having down to their wastes. You know...the people who claim welfare is sccrewing them over.
2. 'Gansta' black peoples music.

I sound rasict dont i...

I call my black friends black all the time and they don't mind. In fact, I've never used the term "African-American". I think maybe your overreacting.

Yah, it's not some PC conspiracy, it's just an obnoxious trend (like reality TV).

The best way to combat it is to not use PC terms and have a strong and solid argument if someone tries to call you on it.

Well, you don't really call black people "African-British" here, you just call them black. Seriously, it's only America that has such warped PCness.

Well, you don't really call black people "African-British" here, you just call them black. Seriously, it's only America that has such warped PCness.

Ever heard that song that goes something along the lines of "Only in America..."?

im not racist...but I'd say two things that really piss me off are:

1. 'Gangsta' black people who where pants and shirts 14 times their size and have 'bling bling' having down to their wastes. You know...the people who claim welfare is sccrewing them over.
2. 'Gansta' black peoples music.

I sound rasict dont i...You think that's bad? We have all sorts of people copying that over here with no cultural ties to America what so ever...

Only in a place so polarized as the US. There's no real problem with it in Germany.

Call someone a Nazi.

Or, talk about Gypsies.

Call someone a Nazi.

Or, talk about Gypsies.
We don't have problems with those... There's no bitching and screaming from half the population that everyone else is just trying to PC things to death. You can get away with calling someone a Nazi as long as it's appropriate (too many of those people around for my taste).

You think that's bad? We have all sorts of people copying that over here with no cultural ties to America what so ever...


I just aviod going into those neighborhoods.

I dunno if its just me or what, but i like people with some education beyond highschool. :)

Now I want to say something. I dont hate black people,I just hate people that act like idiots and suck at my tax money.


Any of you people remember that riot that happened last year because a black guy crashed(and burned) a moterbike while being pursued by the police? Well if you do, that happened 20 miles from my house.

Agreed. All of the groups you listed are annoying, and most deserve to be jailed, if not killed.

Agreed. All of the groups you listed are annoying, and most deserve to be jailed, if not killed.


Jailed or killed!? Just think of all the forced labor you could get out of them...

I call my friends black like...whenever I can.

Hell, I sometimes use that n-word and see how far they would let me get away with it. Though being half-Hispanic, it's not as bad as if I used it if I was white.

Which only reinforces the general opinion that only white males who are heterosexual can be racist, homophic and sexist.

I think anyone who actually believes being Politically Correct is a good thing should be culled. The UK is turning into enough of a nanny state without the thought police too.


(Bear in mind I'll probably never read this again, because ... well I'm lazy, and I don't think it'll be worth my time, but I just had to get it out. Have a nice day!)

African-Americans are not black. There are no black people on earth. Most people called black are brown. There are some Africans who have a dark grayish-brown, but it's not black.

-extreme feminists

There will be things woman can do that men can never do, and there are somethings that men can do that women can't. Feminists are trying to bridge the can't do gap, trying to make them superior, under the 'equality' banner, despite the fact that they have more power than men already.

Alright, !!! without flaming !!! and hurting other people's feelings... too much... what groups/types of people piss you off the most???
Well since I am Canadian I would have to say Americans. J/K

People who say that it's wrong to say a girl is dressed like a slut because when guys have lots of sex they are called "players" piss me off. I am all for slutty outfits but why should the fact the all guys are slutty be a reason to wear slutty clothes.

I just aviod going into those neighborhoods.

I dunno if its just me or what, but i like people with some education beyond highschool. :)

Now I want to say something. I dont hate black people,I just hate people that act like idiots and suck at my tax money.My point was, we have people exactly like that without having developed the idea of acting like that on their own. They've copied the lifestyle and some of them are being paid vast sums of money for being vulgar on national television...
And what is referred to as black music over here is very popular (that and the damn casting show people...:()
I don't hate the cultural group that these people come from. I just disagree with the lifestyles of said people, as you do to. ;)

Twenty things/people that annoy me, in no particular order:

1) Political Correctness
2) communists and communism,
3)socialists and socialism
4) Gangsta Culture
5) civil authoritarians of all stripes
6) people who use history in arguments but have very little historical knowledge
7) corporatists and corporatism
8) staunch Republicans
9)staunch Democrats
10) People who quote Orwell like he’s some sort of god.
11) atheists who say with certainty that they are 100% sure that there is no God
12) Easily offended people
13) Rich people who don’t give to charity (very few of these, actually)
14) People who support raising taxes
15) The IRS
16) Supporters of the Nanny State
17) Supporters of the State of Fear (not the book, the way society is described in the book)
18) Snobby, stuck-up chicks
19) Fat chicks who don’t accept that they are fat and do not look good in a short skirt.
20) Literary, musical and cinematic elitists

Three words that most people here should agree with.

Chavs. Must. Die.

Have a good day. :)

Pretending that muslim extremists are "martyrs" or not being allowed to say that Muslim terrorism is a major concern.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.

Fact.

-really crazy liberals (ie: michael moore, whoopee goldberg, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Madonna, Howard Dean...)


Haha, you're just naming all the people you know who could possibly fall under the label of "liberal", aren't you?

-really crazy liberals (ie: michael moore, whoopee goldberg, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Madonna, Howard Dean...)

John Kerry being a "crazy liberal" is new to me. I remember Kerry barely being liberal, leaning more towards the right than anything else.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.

Fact.

Tim McVeigh was Muslim? Who knew?

Pretending that muslim extremists are "martyrs" or not being allowed to say that Muslim terrorism is a major concern.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.

Fact.The RAF was avowedly athiest, mind you. And the guy that shot Rabin was a Jew.

Political correctness is getting way out of hand nowadays. Now you get dirty looks if you call someone 'gay' and not 'homosexual', or if you call someone black instead of 'african american'.

The day you get arrested or have your right to vote taken away because you call someone 'black' or, hell, call someone '******', let me know.

Until then, quit your whining. "wah wah wah it's getting out of hand" has been going on since it became proper to use the term 'negro' instead of '******' or 'boy' ... as in ... the 1950s.

Suck it up.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.

Fact.
What ‘bout them crazy Irish? :p

We don't have problems with those... There's no bitching and screaming from half the population that everyone else is just trying to PC things to death. You can get away with calling someone a Nazi as long as it's appropriate (too many of those people around for my taste).

Er... Germany is VERY politically correct: not only do you have some of the sternest laws on hate literature on the planet, but you guys are so politically correct that it is illegal to have anything from a fourteen or so year period of your history. :rolleyes:

I'm not pro-hate, Nazis, or anything else. But this is obvious political correctness.

Pretending that muslim extremists are "martyrs" or not being allowed to say that Muslim terrorism is a major concern.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.

Fact.

That is so gigantically wrong that it makes my head hurt. It is doubly wrong to say that if you use the patriot act defination which labels huge groups as terrorists.

Also the group of people I dislike the most are bigots. (please don't say "if you hate all bigots then you are a bigot")

Beslan.

WTC

9/11

Beirut

The USS Cole

Nick Berg.

Leon Klinghoffer.

Entebbe.

Since 9/11 Islamic terrorists have carried out more than 2000 separate atrocities.

Islamic fundamentalists attack a barbershop, killing two, including a 9-year-old boy, then blow up the building.

Argue with that

Er... Germany is VERY politically correct: not only do you have some of the sternest laws on hate literature on the planet, but you guys are so politically correct that it is illegal to have anything from a fourteen or so year period of your history. :rolleyes:

I'm not pro-hate, Nazis, or anything else. But this is obvious political correctness.I didn't say we don't have PC, I said we have no problem with it.

gee i feel so SORRY for you guys, not being able to insult people and get away with it any more.

what is the world coming to??

Argue with thatWe only have to name one incident of non islamic terror to destroy your arguement that all terrorists are muslim, and if you look above, we have.

John Kerry being a "crazy liberal" is new to me. I remember Kerry barely being liberal, leaning more towards the right than anything else.

I gotta agree, but a bit differently: he's about as crazy as tapioca pudding.
He is liberal, though not Gephart liberal. Probably somewhere between Clinton and Carter. Though, "with all his flip-flopping", it's hard to tell. ;)

gee i feel so SORRY for you guys, not being able to insult people and get away with it any more.

what is the world coming to??
As long as speech doesn’t physically harm someone else (shouting fire in a crowded building) it should be legal.

Twenty things/people that annoy me, in no particular order:

1) Political Correctness
2) communists and communism,
3)socialists and socialism
4) Gangsta Culture
5) civil authoritarians of all stripes
6) people who use history in arguments but have very little historical knowledge
7) corporatists and corporatism
8) staunch Republicans
9)staunch Democrats
10) People who quote Orwell like he’s some sort of god.
11) atheists who say with certainty that they are 100% sure that there is no God
12) Easily offended people
13) Rich people who don’t give to charity (very few of these, actually)
14) People who support raising taxes
15) The IRS
16) Supporters of the Nanny State
17) Supporters of the State of Fear (not the book, the way society is described in the book)
18) Snobby, stuck-up chicks
19) Fat chicks who don’t accept that they are fat and do not look good in a short skirt.
20) Literary, musical and cinematic elitists
I hate #19, too. I also hate people hate #2, #3 and #14.

I didn't say we don't have PC, I said we have no problem with it.

You don't see a problem with the idea that your country has legislation that basically takes a good chunck of the 20th century away from discussion?!?

I see. You're saying that PC has already won.

What right-wing goofballs who whine and moan about "political correctness" are really bitching about is losing their ability to bully, intimidate and ridicule. They are being called on their stupid, callous, and degrading behavior, and they don't like it. After all, if they are discouraged from using their tried-and-true debating tactics of name-calling, rude jokes, racial epiphets and insults, they would have turn to reasoned arguments.
And we know how effective those are. - Jingles

Beslan.

WTC

9/11

Beirut

The USS Cole

Nick Berg.

Leon Klinghoffer.

Entebbe.

Since 9/11 Islamic terrorists have carried out more than 2000 separate atrocities.

Islamic fundamentalists attack a barbershop, killing two, including a 9-year-old boy, then blow up the building.

Argue with that
The Earth Liberation Front (the number one domestic terrorist group in america)
The Army of God (christians)
Timothy McVeigh
IRA
Columbian Drug Cartels
2600 (hacker group deemed terrorist by the patriot act)

I don't think anyone is saying that there arn't muslim terrorists but to say ALL terrorists are muslims is to ignore a really big portion of the world around you.

As long as speech doesn’t physically harm someone else (shouting fire in a crowded building) it should be legal.I don't know. I find it kind of nice that people aren't really able to go around insulting me.

I love it when I hear people whining about "political correctness."
You want politically correct?

How about labeling anyone that examines the motivations of terrorists an "appolgist for terror" or a "terrorist enabler?"

How about calls for keeping lists of the names of "terrorist enablers?"

How about calling those who challenge the falsified official justification for an illegal war a "coward", "traitor" or "terrorist sympathizer?"

How about damning to hell fire anyone who supports same sex marriage--- er..., pardon me, marriage?

You want politically correct? You ain't seen nothin yet. Just wait a while.
Or move to the US now - written by Transplant

Pretending that muslim extremists are "martyrs" or not being allowed to say that Muslim terrorism is a major concern.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.

Fact.
ever herd of timothy mcvei (or however u spell it(his name)?)

ya

he was some hypercristain

I don't know. I find it kind of nice that people aren't really able to go around insulting me.


a few years ago, I still get called fa**ot alot at school, I think most people are not at all PC.

The Earth Liberation Front (the number one domestic terrorist group in america)
The Army of God (christians)
Timothy McVeigh
IRA
Columbian Drug Cartels
2600 (hacker group deemed terrorist by the patriot act)

I don't think anyone is saying that there arn't muslim terrorists but to say ALL terrorists are muslims is to ignore a really big portion of the world around you/

The rest are fine, but...

Are you shitting me?!? 2600 is *NOT* a terrorist group! It's a group of hackers, yes. And a 20 year running quarterly MAGAZINE. They also run the "Off the Hook" radio programme, which is carried on quite a few stations.
http://www.2600.com/

(I've been a reader since 1991ish.)

As long as speech doesn’t physically harm someone else (shouting fire in a crowded building) it should be legal.


so anyone is freely legal to emotionally and psychologically abuse another person?

I don't know. I find it kind of nice that people aren't really able to go around insulting me.

Yeah, and it would be nice if the government gave out free cookies, too. But, is it really the governments place to hand out cookies, or enforce PC laws?

As long as speech doesn’t physically harm someone else (shouting fire in a crowded building) it should be legal.

Oh it's perfectly legal. You can call black folks "******" and talk about them "filthy wetbacks" all day long and in public. Hell ... the Klan is even still allowed to march wherever they get the permits.

The OP is complaining about "dirty looks".

Ooooh ... he's sooooooo oppressed.

The rest are fine, but...

Are you shitting me?!? 2600 is *NOT* a terrorist group! It's a group of hackers, yes. And a 20 year running quarterly MAGAZINE. They also run the "Off the Hook" radio programme, which is carried on quite a few stations.
http://www.2600.com/

(I've been a reader since 1991ish.)
Earth Liberation Front has a magazine. It’s called “Grr!,” I think.

Pretending that muslim extremists are "martyrs" or not being allowed to say that Muslim terrorism is a major concern.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.

Fact.


WRONG!!!! have you ever heard of the IRA? not muslim catholics....

name calling is RIGHTFULLY an emotional assualt. :rolleyes:

As long as speech doesn’t physically harm someone else (shouting fire in a crowded building) it should be legal.
i agree with that

Yeah, and it would be nice if the government gave out free cookies, too. But, is it really the governments place to hand out cookies, or enforce PC laws?Not just up to the government. It's up to society. I live in one that has little problems with it because there's a general consensus on what is offensive and what is not.
A lot of what I think goes wrong in the US can be blamed on how polarized society is, not just the the PC issue.

spech that incites hatred or promote violences shouldnt be legal either. You can say whatever crap you want at home or in private , no one should have to listen to your shit or be emotionally assualted by someone else in public.

I shouldnt have to tolerate people calling me a faggot when i walk around on the street. :rolleyes:

Who here hates the PETA people? A fitting punishment for them is to be locked in a cage with a really pissed of hyena. Then we'll see how much they love animals.

who i fucking hate are the chavs and pikeys in britain.

They wear cheap and tacky gold jewlery, rip off sports wear, burberry tartan hats/bags/anything else and wander sucking the life out of society. usually white - try to act american ghetto black.

Then there's all the indian/sri lanken/pakistani lot who try and be the same and act "gangsta ghetto" - trying to act black (i'm allowed to say thsi cuz i'm asian myself, but not like them! lol :P)
And they're all really loud as well


grrr

name calling is RIGHTFULLY an emotional assualt. I have a right to not be called a faggot.

Guess what? We care more about our freedom of speech than your feelings.

Politically Correct my @$$ !!!

Very well, consider your ass politically corrected.

who i fucking hate are the chavs and pikeys in britain.

They wear cheap and tacky gold jewlery, rip off sports wear, burberry tartan hats/bags/anything else and wander sucking the life out of society. usually white - try to act american ghetto black.

Then there's all the indian/sri lanken/pakistani lot who try and be the same and act "gangsta ghetto" - trying to act black (i'm allowed to say thsi cuz i'm asian myself, but not like them! lol :P)
And they're all really loud as well


grrr

they have the freedom to dress however the hell they like, i believe.

Could someone please enlighten me as to what "chavs" are? :confused:

Guess what? We care more about our freedom of speech than your feelings.


your freedom of speech ends as soon as it infrings on my right to be left alone. Calling names can also lead to violence, lets get real. Why should it be okay to harrass people on the street ? Its absolutely outrageous. Calling people faggots and hurling other insulting names should not be legal. Why should it be okay to mentally and emotionally abuse someone?

Guess what? We care more about our freedom of speech than your feelings.
Since you support people inflicting massive mental damage on others, I would presume that you would also support people if they decided to skin you alive.

The rest are fine, but...

Are you shitting me?!? 2600 is *NOT* a terrorist group! It's a group of hackers, yes. And a 20 year running quarterly MAGAZINE. They also run the "Off the Hook" radio programme, which is carried on quite a few stations.
http://www.2600.com/

(I've been a reader since 1991ish.)
It's true, under the broad languange of the patriot act 2600 is considered a terrrist group. As is almost any "hacker".

spech that incites hatred or promote violences shouldnt be legal either. You can say whatever crap you want at home or in private , no one should have to listen to your shit or be emotionally assualted by someone else in public.

I shouldnt have to tolerate people calling me a faggot when i walk around on the street. :rolleyes:
Well I guess big daddy government should come and wipe those tears of you cheek.

It's not a right NOT do be offended.

Its about the right to be left alone without some jackasses harrassing you. :rolleyes: I would also think its illegal to say "i am going to kill you" to someone on the street. Anyone trying to hide behind this and say its freedom of speech is bullshitting.

As much as I disagree with people calling others anything derogitory I belive that they should have the right to say it. The right stops though when you start telling people to commit acts of violence.
Its about the right to be left alone without some jackasses harrassing you. If they are continually harassing you or making anysort of verbal threat it is actually third degree assault(at least where I am). Its only a misdomeanor but there are some laws protecting people from harassment

As much as I disagree with people calling others anything derogitory I belive that they should have the right to say it. The right stops though when you start telling people to commit acts of violence.


Depends if he wants to get into my face and yell names at me, he should get the fuck out of my face. And besides, its disruptive. What about my right to walk peacefully without people hurling names and being all disruptive?

Has anyone noticed that while everyone hates and reviles the nazis the communists murdered more people?
Nazis (or other right-wing dictatorships):
Germany: 8 million
S America: 1 million

Communists:
Russia: 18 million
China: 70 million
Cambodia : 4 million
Vietnam : 2 million (shared with the americans)
While these are fairly rough figures it does show a frigfhteneing imbalance. Why haven't we seen: "Communism: A Warning from History"?

they have the freedom to dress however the hell they like, i believe.
I agree. But, we also have the right to call them morons.

your freedom of speech ends as soon as it infrings on my right to be left alone.
And who decides where your right to be left alone begins? Should I be breaking the law by telling you that I disagree with you?

Calling names can also lead to violence, lets get real.
Then it becomes illegal once it becomes violence.

Why should it be okay to harrass people on the street ? Its absolutely outrageous. Calling people faggots and hurling other insulting names should not be legal.
It is the governments place? Yes, it is a deplorable thing to call people names like that, but that is a societal problem. You can't fix society with government.

Depends if he wants to get into my face and yell names at me, he should get the fuck out of my face.
He should just because that is ignorant. But do you really want the government to start telling you what you can and cannot say? That is a slippery slope my friend.

yeah so if a guy keeps sexually assaulting a woman , we should wait till he actually raped the woman before we can report him? bullshit.

Has anyone noticed that while everyone hates and reviles the nazis the communists murdered more people?

Big difference .... slaughtering people of a particular ethnic background is not a central part of Communism. It is a founding and fundamental basis of Nazism.

Since you support people inflicting massive mental damage on others, I would presume that you would also support people if they decided to skin you alive.
Mental Damage??!? Ahh Diddums! Skinning alive is universes apart from so called "mental damage" Grow up and get some (metaphorical) balls. If some people can't deal with offensive statements against them then screw them!

yeah so if a guy keeps sexually assaulting a woman , we should wait till he actually raped the woman before we can report him? bullshit.
Third degree assault(assuming you mean verbally assaulting), which is enough to get a restraining order. You can't charge someone with rape for makeing lewd comments though.

Everybody just chill out. You may not agree with what the all the other 6 billion people in the world believe but you have to rsepect their right to believe it. :mp5: :headbang: :gundge:

As much as I disagree with people calling others anything derogitory I belive that they should have the right to say it. The right stops though when you start telling people to commit acts of violence.
If they are continually harassing you or making anysort of verbal threat it is actually third degree assault(at least where I am). Its only a misdomeanor but there are some laws protecting people from harassment

I think it depends on the circumstances. Repeated name callings should not be allowed, it motivates ane encourages violence. Why else would someone repeatedly call another person names ?

yeah so if a guy keeps sexually assaulting a woman , we should wait till he actually raped the woman before we can report him? bullshit.
Depends on what you mean by "Sexual assault". Intentional, sexual, physical contact is obviously reportable.

The government is there to protect your CIVIL RIGHTS. Not to make sure neighbour Dan doesn't call you names.

Big difference .... slaughtering people of a particular ethnic background is not a central part of Communism. It is a founding and fundamental basis of Nazism.
So what you're saying is that the ethnicity of those murdered is what count. Therefore the number is irrelevant. So 6 million Jews' and 2 million others' lives are more valuable than 18 million russians and 70 million chinese.
Just because the nazis went for one particular group then it is worse than killing indiscriminately. Doesn't seem very rational to me
Another point is that while there will never again be a nazi government anywhere ever again, communism is still seen as a viable option. Seems worrying to me that while we've ensured that there won't be another holocaust we have not made sure there will not be more purges.

I think it depends on the circumstances. Repeated name callings should not be allowed.
I'm not saying that you pat them on the back and say "Good job calling him a name" and I think that you have a right to defend yourself against defamation, but there is hardly a governmental solution to it. It is a problem that we have to tackle as a society. How could you legislate that? Should the government put out a list of words you can no longer direct at people?

What's wrong with calling people 'faggots'? Hell, I barge into my apartment all the time and exclaim, about my room-mates, "...bunch of slack-jawed faggots around here!" (my favorite line from Predator)

Of course... we are a bunch of slack-jawed faggots (well... occasionally slack-jawed, TV does that...), so it's perfectly appropriate. :D

Anyway, am I the only person who finds the majority of racial/stereotypical epithets ridiculous to the point of hilarity? I mean... have you actually listened to these words? My biggest lament is that there aren't enough funny epithets referring to us darn white folk. :)

The reason I am saying all this is I got called faggots alot when i was at highschool. Subsequently, i suffered from depression and still do. It s not about freedom of speech, its about a person's well being. It's NOT right. I have a civil right to be left alone and to feel safe. Thats the bottom line. If you disagree with homosexuality, you can protest through another means, I dont need to people to get into my faces all the time, day in and day out.

[quote]Just because the nazis went for one particular group then it is worse than killing indiscriminately. Doesn't seem very rational to me[quote]

The diference is that racism and genocide is central to Nazism, while killing was just an effect of Communism. Modern Nazis suport Hitler, Modern Communits, for the most part, don't support Stalin or Mao.

Depends on what you mean by "Sexual assault". Intentional, sexual, physical contact is obviously reportable.


verbal.

Beslan.

WTC

9/11

Beirut

The USS Cole

Nick Berg.

Leon Klinghoffer.

Entebbe.

Since 9/11 Islamic terrorists have carried out more than 2000 separate atrocities.

Islamic fundamentalists attack a barbershop, killing two, including a 9-year-old boy, then blow up the building.

Argue with that

Righty-o, then.
Omagh - Splinter faction of the Irish Republican Army.
Tokyo sarin attack - Aum Shin Rikyo, an extremist Buddhist sect.
Birmingham church bombing - Evidence points to the Ku Klux Klan.
Guatemala, 1980s - Guatemalan government, sponsored by the USA. (State-sponsored terrorism is still terrorism.)
Colombia, 1980s-90s - Medellin and Cali drug cartels. (They don't call it narco-terrorism for nothing.)

Sorry. Just needed to get that off my chest. My apologies for going off-track.

Has anyone noticed that while everyone hates and reviles the nazis the communists murdered more people?
Nazis (or other right-wing dictatorships):
Germany: 8 million

Forgetting the fact that they were also responsible for killing nearly 30 million Russians, no?

The reason I am saying all this is I got called faggots alot when i was at highschool. Subsequently, i suffered from depression and still do. It s not about freedom of speech, its about a person's well being. It's NOT right. Thats the bottom line. If you disagree with homosexuality, you can protest through another means, I dont need to people to get into my faces all the time, day in and day out.
I'm going to start this out with saything that I feel bad that people did that to you(because no matter how hard I try I will probobly sound like a dick by the end of this post). I got alot of the same stuff to. However I think it might be cop out to say that your depression stemmed only from that. Furthermore, I ask again how would you legislate it? What would you like the government to do?

here is just few things i hate, i swear there's much more

-soccer moms that want to ban everything so their precious children will live in a bubble
-rich people, who think they know everything about everything and are better than anyone else, because they're rich.
- fat people in too small clothes
- smelly people
- too ugly people
- stupid people
- bible bashers and other fundamentalists. i think religion is a personal thing and no one has the right to start bombarding other people or judging them.
- those americans who think that they are worth more and are better than people from other countries, just because they're american.
- right wingers
- annoying children
- stuck up bitches
- people, usually older people, who think they know everything better than younger people, just because they're older, and they can act rudely towards you, but you must be all polite and nice mannered, just because they're older.
- people who just copy everyone else, dress the same, listen to the same music, etc.. just cos they're afraid to be themselves.
- people who are mean to animals.

and that's just few..

The reason I am saying all this is I got called faggots alot when i was at highschool. Subsequently, i suffered from depression and still do. It s not about freedom of speech, its about a person's well being. It's NOT right. I have a civil right to be left alone and to feel safe. Thats the bottom line. If you disagree with homosexuality, you can protest through another means, I dont need to people to get into my faces all the time, day in and day out.

Alright. How would you propose the law work then? What would be the deffinition of the "Verbal Assault". The punisment? How would it be enforced.

I'm going to start this out with saything that I feel bad that people did that to you(because no matter how hard I try I will probobly sound like a dick by the end of this post). I got alot of the same stuff to. However I think it might be cop out to say that your depression stemmed only from that. Furthermore, I ask again how would you legislate it? What would you like the government to do?
Miiiiiiind control, maaan.

[quote]Just because the nazis went for one particular group then it is worse than killing indiscriminately. Doesn't seem very rational to me[quote]

The diference is that racism and genocide is central to Nazism, while killing was just an effect of Communism. Modern Nazis suport Hitler, Modern Communits, for the most part, don't support Stalin or Mao.
I think you will find that the idea is to get rid of the Jews which doesn't necessarily mean killing them. I'm sure the idea of shipping them all out to Israel (or another distant location) would have appealed greatly had it been feasible. Also if the effect is the same as the intention is it not just the same wrong. Communism calls for dictatorship which almost always leads tio murders usually mass).

fine, its "one of the reasons."

There iare already policies that ban homophobic remarks at my old high school, but the teachers didnt have the will to enforce it. The kids didnt call each other racial names becasue they knew it was unacceptable, but calling someone a faggot was *still* acceptable.

It will obviously not be 100 percent enforcable, but i will never support a person's "freedom of speech" to assualt another person through name calling. It's not a freedom of speech, its an assualt.

Guess what? We care more about our freedom of speech than your feelings.A common mistake, be assured.

Forgetting the fact that they were also responsible for killing nearly 30 million Russians, no?
That was in a war so it doesn't count as mass murder. And it was only 20 million russians. Were the allies genocidal for killing german soldiers? i think not

fine, its "one of the reasons."

There iare already policies that ban homophobic remarks at my old high school, but the teachers didnt have the will to enforce it. The kids didnt call each other racial names becasue they knew it was unacceptable, but calling someone a faggot was *still* acceptable.
So you don't think people should have freedom of speech?

I don't like when people says "potato", so I'll guess I'll just ban it? Wait what?

I will never support a person's "freedom of speech" to assualt another person through name calling. It's not a freedom of speech, its an assualt.

fine, its "one of the reasons."

There iare already policies that ban homophobic remarks at my old high school, but the teachers didnt have the will to enforce it. The kids didnt call each other racial names becasue they knew it was unacceptable, but calling someone a faggot was *still* acceptable.

It will obviously not be 100 percent enforcable, but i will never support a person's "freedom of speech" to assualt another person through name calling. It's not a freedom of speech, its an assualt.

Opinions can never be assault\slander\libel\hate speech\ etc....

name calling is not my idea of an opinon.

I think you will find that the idea is to get rid of the Jews which doesn't necessarily mean killing them. I'm sure the idea of shipping them all out to Israel (or another distant location) would have appealed greatly had it been feasible.I think you will find that you are mistaken about this, if you mean 3rd Reich policy.

name calling is not my idea of an opinon.
So, if my opinion is that you are a homosexual, that is not an opinon? :confused:

Edit to clarify: Words are just words, if i say Faggot to a brazillian native, he doesn't know what the fuck. They're just sounds man.

think you will find that the idea is to get rid of the Jews which doesn't necessarily mean killing them. I'm sure the idea of shipping them all out to Israel (or another distant location) would have appealed greatly had it been feasible. Also if the effect is the same as the intention is it not just the same wrong. Communism calls for dictatorship which almost always leads tio murders usually mass).
I'm not apologizing for either group. I am neither a nazi or a communist. I am just saying that comparing the Nazis of today and the communists of today, Nazis are generaly more hated. This not base on past actions of their groups, but on whether the groups as they are today suport the crimes of their groups in the past. As I said, for the most part, modern Nazis support Hitler's genocide, and, for the most part, modern communists don't support Stallin or Mao's massacres.

The reason I am saying all this is I got called faggots alot when i was at highschool. Subsequently, i suffered from depression and still do. It s not about freedom of speech, its about a person's well being. It's NOT right. I have a civil right to be left alone and to feel safe. Thats the bottom line. If you disagree with homosexuality, you can protest through another means, I dont need to people to get into my faces all the time, day in and day out.
Stop being such a whinger! I got called "fat bastard" at school and was mercilessly beaten up but I don't go around complaining about how im depressed and traumatised. That's because im not a whingeing sadact with a chip on my shoulder (at least not about that). get some backbone

it would be a lie, beucase I am not one. =D

Am I the only one who sees the hyper-irony in this guy(OP) being pissed off about PCness, but bleeting out the word "ass" in the title, and disclaiming that he doesn't want to flame or hurt people's feelings?

Okay maybe I am the only one. Oh well.

On PCness - I don't have that big of an issue with PCness. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to be randomly offended by people freely saying ******, spic, fag, wetback, etc. If you can make people feel better and get along with them better by doing something as simple as watching the words you say, why the hell not?

PCness is only taken too far with the term African American. That label doesn't even make sense, really, as it's not a title for a race, but a condition. If a white guy from Johannesburg came and naturalized to America, he would be by definition African American. And what do you call black people in Europe? African-American is just... dumb.

Groups I dislike? Okay... groups I dislike -
1. Libertarians - There, I said it. Sorry, but they have slowly creeped near the top of my list. It's the selfishness really. I just can't deal with people who think extreme selfishness is a virtue, or who believe that everything magically gets better when the big bad government is neutered.
2. People who think that sex is evil, harmful, a corruption, a vice, etc. - I'm sure God has more important things to do then care whether you get freaky from time to time. And I'm also sure that western civilization won't collapse because your kid saw Janet Jackson's nasty titties at the Superbowl. Make yourself productive and donate your body to science, ASAP.
3. People who think video games should be a controlled substance - I'm looking at you Hillary... (through the scope of a high powered rifle...)
4. Fundamentalists of any religion - that much dogmatic faith is just not healthy. That much dogmatic faith combined with a willingness to do violence - it can't be good period.
5. People who think a proper debate stance against Michael Moore is "OMG hez soo fat!!11oneone." Please.
6. People who make frivilous lawsuits - you spilled hot coffee on yourself? Here have a million dollars! Not.
7. Goths - the modern kind. Those that sacked Rome ruled, but the modern kind is weird and for all thier talk about death, they never seem to kill themselves. Though the rare goth chick pulls it off and is kinda hot. But most aren't.
8. Wannabe Ganstas - You're not a gangsta. Stop it. You're white, middle class, and have at least a middle school education. Case closed.
9. Radical Environmentalists - You give moderate environmentalists a bad name. Stop doing that.
10. Stalinists - You bastards forever tarnished the name Communism. A unique idea that was considered the "great moral experiment of our time?" But no, you have to go kill millions of people... douchebags.
11. Neo-Nazis/KKK - Though admittedly amusing, something tells me your time spent "preparing for the coming race war" would be better spent getting a job or finding a healthy hobby or something.

There, a few groups I dislike. :) It's nice to get that off my chest.

it would be a lie, beucase I am not one. =D
But I can still think you're a homosexual. It's not a lie, how do you prove your not?

That was in a war so it doesn't count as mass murder. And it was only 20 million russians. Were the allies genocidal for killing german soldiers? i think not"Only" 20 million russians? That's about 4-5 times the population of Ireland, btw. And not all of those were soldiers. And let's not forget the people that starved because the Nazis took all the food in order to keep the Germans from turning red on them like they did in WWI. And I personnally find some of the things the Allies did condemnable too, but that is a complicated issue.

Stop being such a whinger! I got called "fat bastard" at school and was mercilessly beaten up but I don't go around complaining about how im depressed and traumatised. That's because im not a whingeing sadact with a chip on my shoulder (at least not about that). get some backbone


I am not complainning. I am exercising my freedom of speech.

But I can still think you're a homosexual. It's not a lie, how do you prove your not?


You can call me a homosexual if you like. I dont mind. But repeating that word in my face over and over again would be a problem , and you should get the fuck out of my face.

I think you will find that you are mistaken about this, if you mean 3rd Reich policy.
3rd reich policy as was implemented was an interpreatation of the nazi beliefs not necessarily the only one. However it was the one that was chosen and so to many people remains the only interpretation. The part of nazism that can't be misenterpreted is the bitabout killing retards and so on. That's wrong by anyone (even Satan's) standards.

That was in a war so it doesn't count as mass murder. And it was only 20 million russians. Were the allies genocidal for killing german soldiers? i think not

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the Allies weren't the ones that started the war, yes?

9 million Soviet soldiers + 19 million Soviet civilians = 28 million. A touch more than 20 million.

You can call me a homosexual if you like. I dont mind. But repeating that word in my face over and over again would be a problem , and you should get the fuck out of my face.
Why? If you don't like the soundwaves I am making why do you not move? I have the right to be in a public space as much as you do and I can say what I like.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the Allies weren't the ones that started the war, yes?

9 million Soviet soldiers + 19 million Soviet civilians = 28 million. A touch more than 20 million.
And since the NAZI party started the war, one could attribute all 52.5+ million deaths to them.

3rd reich policy as was implemented was an interpreatation of the nazi beliefs not necessarily the only one. However it was the one that was chosen and so to many people remains the only interpretation. The part of nazism that can't be misenterpreted is the bitabout killing retards and so on. That's wrong by anyone (even Satan's) standards.Um, considering that the founding fathers of Nazism interpreted it that way, I'd say it was the only interpretation. But that's only the opinion of someone that's been dealing with it ever since he was 10.

Why? If you don't like the soundwaves I am making why do you not move? I have the right to be in a public space as much as you do and I can say what I like.


Your soundwaves can be disruptive. I have a right to not be disrupted by your soundwaves. Just like a person should not turn on his music so loud that it disrupts his or her neighbor.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the Allies weren't the ones that started the war, yes?

9 million Soviet soldiers + 19 million Soviet civilians = 28 million. A touch more than 20 million.
I can't verify those figures but a large number of those deaths were (indirectly) caused by the incompetence of the communist leadership. They just kept shoving men into the grinder when they could have (by using alternative strategies) reduced their losses

I can't verify those figures but a large number of those deaths were (indirectly) caused by the incompetence of the communist leadership. They just kept shoving men into the grinder when they could have (by using alternative strategies) reduced their losses

Reducing their losses would have meant losing the war: they were using the only resource they had to defeat their invaders.

Your soundwaves can be disruptive. I have a right to not be disrupted by your soundwaves. Just like a person should not turn on his music so loud that it disrupts his or her neighbor.
Well, damn that wind and the people walking INFRINGING ON YOUR RIGHT NOT TO BE DISRUPTED BY SOUNDWAVES.

You realize this is crazytalk?

I love how the first amendment goes: "And the people shall not be disrupted by soundwaves, for that just ain't right"

Mental Damage??!? Ahh Diddums! Skinning alive is universes apart from so called "mental damage" Grow up and get some (metaphorical) balls. If some people can't deal with offensive statements against them then screw them!
1. Don't flame. It makes you look stupid.
2. If you disagree with an entire branch of science, go for it. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously. As any psychologist could tell you, mental harm is just as damaging, if not more, than physical harm. I admit skinning alive was over-the-top, but what about breaking both of your legs? That's no worse than many types of mental harm.

Why? If you don't like the soundwaves I am making why do you not move? I have the right to be in a public space as much as you do and I can say what I like.
If you don't like me hitting you with a baseball bat, why don't you move away?

While teasing gays isn't the most noble pasttime this Pc crap is endangering some of the world's best offensive words. Many of them are gay related but don't have to be used in a homophobic context.
We'd have to get rid of:
faggot
buttmunch
buttmonkey
turdburgler
nobshank (ad infinitum)
I wish to reserve my right to get pissed off and call someone a "faggoted turdburgling assfiddler" (whether or not they're gay) without the homophobia and PC police interfereing

If you don't like me hitting you with a baseball bat, why don't you move away?

So you're saying the soundwaves are physically hurting you, like a baseball bat?

So you're saying the soundwaves are physically hurting you, like a baseball bat?
If you're standing right in front of someone, and screaming at them, like what the other person was talking about, yes, it does cause physcial harm. There's more kinds of harm than physical, anyways.

1. Don't flame. It makes you look stupid.
2. If you disagree with an entire branch of science, go for it. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously. As any psychologist could tell you, mental harm is just as damaging, if not more, than physical harm. I admit skinning alive was over-the-top, but what about breaking both of your legs? That's no worse than many types of mental harm.
I don't believe something just because there's a branch of science devoted to it. Creative Designism is a branch of biology but as any fule kno its utter crap. Psychology may have some insight but your assertation is over the top. We can prove this with a simple experiment. You call me fatty 4 times a day for a month and ill break your legs every day and we'll see whose damaged more.

If you're standing right in front of someone, and screaming at them, like what the other person was talking about, yes, it does cause physcial harm. There's more kinds of harm than physical, anyways.
But it would take an insanely strong sound to actually harm someone like a basebal bat...

I don't believe something just because there's a branch of science devoted to it. Creative Designism is a branch of biology but as any fule kno its utter crap. Psychology may have some insight but your assertation is over the top. We can prove this with a simple experiment. You call me fatty 4 times a day for a month and ill break your legs every day and we'll see whose damaged more.
1. ID is not biology.
2. You're using a strawman. I never said calling anyone "fatty" is equivalent to breaking someone's legs.

a few years ago, I still get called fa**ot alot at school, I think most people are not at all PC.
Don't tell them ur gay and they won't go on and on about being a "faggot"

But it would take an insanely strong sound to actually harm someone like a basebal bat...
There's more kinds of harm than physical harm. Ask anyone involved in any field related to health.

I am really fucking sick of certain groups and people, I have a right to my religion so I shouldn't have to deal with all these christianity bashers and all these people going on about how I am a racist since I don't like gays, I mean come on! I have a right to my opinions and I have a right to my beliefs, I am not afraid of gays so that means I am not a homophobe, they are not a race so therefore I am not racist. I wish people would just get a damn grip. I can say "them" if I want, it's a pronoun not racist code. All this political correct bullshit is really in the eye of the beholder and if you are good at twisting words like alot of my verbal opponents are then you can really get into a lot of trouble. In my opinion political correctness doesn't really exist at all it's merely a convience people use to stop people from creating their own views while shielding the ones they believe in.

Don't tell them ur gay and they won't go on and on about being a "faggot"
Don't tell them ur Jewish and they won't go on and on about being a "kike"

Do you not realize what you're saying?

There's more kinds of harm than physical harm. Ask anyone involved in any field related to health.

So sue them for emotional damage.

"Billy called me a homo which caused me to be very sad and stuff, I wants me my moneys"

fine, its "one of the reasons."

There iare already policies that ban homophobic remarks at my old high school, but the teachers didnt have the will to enforce it. The kids didnt call each other racial names becasue they knew it was unacceptable, but calling someone a faggot was *still* acceptable.

It will obviously not be 100 percent enforcable, but i will never support a person's "freedom of speech" to assualt another person through name calling. It's not a freedom of speech, its an assualt.
I dont't think that people should have to go through things like that, and I think that school especially should take steps to prevent it, but I think making it illegal would be a mistake. And again, how would such a law even work?

1. ID is not biology.
2. You're using a strawman. I never said calling anyone "fatty" is equivalent to breaking someone's legs.
But it could cause me such terrible terrible mental damage (note sarcasm).
Who can define how much adds up to 'mental damage'? One word could scar someone for life while another could be unscathed by years of stuff. Its nowhere near broken legs. Maybe a wasp's sting though

Don't tell them ur Jewish and they won't go on and on about being a "kike"

Do you not realize what you're saying?
Perfectly.If your're not prepared tom stand up to the flak when you reveal details that others could take advantage of then don't reveal them.

But it could cause me such terrible terrible mental damage (note sarcasm).

I never said "fatty" would cause mental damage. If you continue to use strawmen there is no point in debating with you.

But it could cause me such terrible terrible mental damage (note sarcasm).
Who can define how much adds up to 'mental damage'? One word could scar someone for life while another could be unscathed by years of stuff. Its nowhere near broken legs. Maybe a wasp's sting though

The 'emotional damage' crew here don't seem to understand that in their world I someone could be arrested for hurting someone's feeling (read: emotional damage BS)

It would be a terrible strain on the law system when little Billy tells the police on little Roger for calling him a nancy.

I never said "fatty" would cause mental damage. If you continue to use strawmenm there is no point in debating with you.
"Strawmenm"? What are you talking about?

You

As I helped to hijack this thread I think I should say that people who do things like PETA (people eating tasty animals) really piss me off. I like satire as much as anyone but forming an organization just to piss off another organization seems childish and really pisses me off.

Perfectly.If your're not prepared tom stand up to the flak when you reveal details that others could take advantage of then don't reveal them.
So you should live a lie just because other people are worthless pieces of shit?

So you should live a lie just because other people are worthless pieces of shit?
The fact that you don't agree with me is causing me GREAT EMOTIONAL DISTRESS. You are to be arrested.

So you should live a lie just because other people are worthless pieces of shit?
It's not lying it's being 'economical with the truth. And why not?

As I helped to hijack this thread I think I should say that people who do things like PETA (people eating tasty animals) really piss me off. I like satire as much as anyone but forming an organization just to piss off another organization seems childish and really pisses me off.
PETA deserve it! They're trying to ban hunting! Their malign imfluence has already struck the UK and could infect the US soon. Any parody or pisstaking possible is needed to stop these deranged veggies!

"Strawmenm"? What are you talking about?
A strawman is a purposefully weak argument one constructs, and then claims it to be an opponents argument. It is a logical fallacy, and is considered the last stand of people with horrible arguments.

So you should live a lie just because other people are worthless pieces of shit?
Im also hurt by your fecal insults. Im very close to my shit and u've hurt my feelings1 (once again note humour)

Don't tell them ur gay and they won't go on and on about being a "faggot"
I think its wrong to make people go out of their way because others refuse to accept a personal choce they make. That is like saying that if the germans jews had just kept to them selves there would have been no problems with them and Hitler (sorry for the hitler reference its just the most redily availible) While this may be true, you can't really expect me to deny who I am because of someone else's reaction.

A strawman is a purposefully weak argument one constructs, and then claims it to be an opponents argument. It is a logical fallacy, and is considered the last stand of people with horrible arguments.
It's not a weak argument. "fatty" could cause mental damage. And if it did it would be way less than broken legs

It's not a weak argument. "fatty" could cause mental damage. And if it did it would be way less than broken legs
I never said that they cause the same amount of harm. You implied that I did. You set up a strawman. You have refused to debate in good faith.

PETA deserve it! They're trying to ban hunting! Their malign imfluence has already struck the UK and could infect the US soon. Any parody or pisstaking possible is needed to stop these deranged veggies!
The fact is that a ban on hunting would end overpopulation problems once the pedator prey realtionship was allowed to balance out and the removal of the guns people would no longer be buying to hunt with would almost certianly lower hot blooded crimes of passion. (i.e. grabbing a gun and shooting your wife)

I think its wrong to make people go out of their way because others refuse to accept a personal choce they make. That is like saying that if the germans jews had just kept to them selves there would have been no problems with them and Hitler (sorry for the hitler reference its just the most redily availible) While this may be true, you can't really expect me to deny who I am because of someone else's reaction.
I doubt they refuse to accept your choice, they just find your choice an easy target and probabably you're someone that won't fight back. But to use the hitler analogy: If u didn't have to reveal u we're jewish (in nazi germany) and you chose to, can you be surprised when consequences ensue

I doubt they refuse to accept your choice, they just find your choice an easy target and probabably you're someone that won't fight back. But to use the hitler analogy: If u didn't have to reveal u we're jewish (in nazi germany) and you chose to, can you be surprised when consequences ensue
Are you tring to blame the victems for being honest? Also whose fault would it be if I were to harrass you for voiceing your opinion?

I'm not saying that it is a surprise but you can't say that people should have to live in fear of the consequences that would ensue if people knew the real them.

may i just say i completely agree! and for some races and religions and classes its worse than others for exsample if a white rich girl called you a fat mexican (or something og that nature) and a black poor girl called you that who would you be more offened by? also i mean im tierd of all the lame like offence taken by it, i mean hell were way to pc these days with everything, for exsample im irish but am i offended by the fighting irish noooo i am not but we cant have indian mascot casue thats wrong i mean god as a person of the caucasin persuasion maybe i just dont get it but im not making anyone call me cacasin of european american, no thats ok u can call me white, rock on

-C

The fact is that a ban on hunting would end overpopulation problems once the pedator prey realtionship was allowed to balance out and the removal of the guns people would no longer be buying to hunt with would almost certianly lower hot blooded crimes of passion. (i.e. grabbing a gun and shooting your wife)
Most of the guns used in that sort of crime are handguns, not hunting weapons. Also overpopulation is not always the problem. Foxes are a nuisance to everyone and so are hunted. With no hunting the foxes will multiply, taking advantage of new food sources that will not deplete (farm aniamls like chickens). PETA seem to think that this is somehow wrong. Also they have a problem with fur coats and meat eating. its the natural way things are meant to be done. Look at traditional inuit. Very in toouch with nature but wear fur and eat meat

may i just say i completely agree! and for some races and religions and classes its worse than others for exsample if a white rich girl called you a fat mexican (or something og that nature) and a black poor girl called you that who would you be more offened by? also i mean im tierd of all the lame like offence taken by it, i mean hell were way to pc these days with everything, for exsample im irish but am i offended by the fighting irish noooo i am not but we cant have indian mascot casue thats wrong i mean god as a person of the caucasin persuasion maybe i just dont get it but im not making anyone call me cacasin of european american, no thats ok u can call me white, rock on

-C
I to am a caucasin. I long to frolic in my native caucaisa.

Are you tring to blame the victems for being honest? Also whose fault would it be if I were to harrass you for voiceing your opinion?

I'm not saying that it is a surprise but you can't say that people should have to live in fear of the consequences that would ensue if people knew the real them.
If by being honest u mean stupid then yes. Anyone who could have kept a secret in that situation and didn't seems a bit short on the grey matter. Would you go up to militant anti-gay protestors and go "hey, im a gay"? or would you walk past nonchalantly?

I to am a caucasin. I long to frolic in my native caucaisa.
Rock on my caucasian brothers! Has anyone noticed how there is "black history month but no "white history month" or that negro college fund thing but no whites only college fund? I think we should lobby to have our ethnicity recognised

Rock on my caucasian brothers! Has anyone noticed how there is "black history month but no "white history month"
That's because every other month is White History Month.

Most of the guns used in that sort of crime are handguns, not hunting weapons. Also overpopulation is not always the problem. Foxes are a nuisance to everyone and so are hunted. With no hunting the foxes will multiply, taking advantage of new food sources that will not deplete (farm aniamls like chickens). PETA seem to think that this is somehow wrong. Also they have a problem with fur coats and meat eating. its the natural way things are meant to be done. Look at traditional inuit. Very in toouch with nature but wear fur and eat meat
First of all you are using one form of animal abuse to rationalize another. Foxes harm farm chickens? Stop farming chickens. Problem solved. Also it is not natural, look at your teeth, now look at any meat eater in nature, same teeth? or are ours more like herbivores? Also we have a much longer intestinal track then any other meat eater which allows the semidigested meat to decompose and release carcinagens(spelling?) into out bodies. And even the tradition inuit eats mean and wears fur out of nessity. They have nothing else to wear. The majority of humans could go the rest of their lives healthily without eating or wearing aniamls.

i have a bi friend, scott who is openly bi, to be honest ive never met someone like that before but when he told me the truth i loved him to a whole new level, i mean your both right tho, it may not be the best choice to flaunt it or just tell it randomly but i mean dont live in fear of who you are, and lets put an end to the hitler stuff-hell dorthy this ain't nazi germany anymore :p

What right-wing goofballs who whine and moan about "political correctness" are really bitching about is losing their ability to bully, intimidate and ridicule. They are being called on their stupid, callous, and degrading behavior, and they don't like it. After all, if they are discouraged from using their tried-and-true debating tactics of name-calling, rude jokes, racial epiphets and insults, they would have turn to reasoned arguments.
And we know how effective those are. - Jingles

What incredible hypocrisy from Agnostic Deeishpeople! Those who oppose political correctness are labelled by Agnostic Deeishpeople as 'right-wing goofballs', people who 'whine and moan', people who 'bully, intimidate and ridicule', and 'stupid, callous and degrading'. They are accused of 'name-calling' and 'insults'.

If you are going to accuse someone of using name-calling as a debating tactic, it is the height of hypocrisy to do it yourself (repeatedly) in the same post.

Where there is genuine discrimination in society, we have employment law and civil or criminal law in order to ensure that justice is done.

I oppose political correctness because it is intrusive into citizens' daily lives. I oppose political correctness because of the inherent presumption of guilt. Law-abiding citizens fear discussing issues such as race because society is conditioned to perceive racism where it does not exist.

I oppose political correctness because it is offensive to the 'minorities' which it claims to protect. A so-called sexist or racist joke may be offensive; it may not - it depends upon the context. Jokes are made about my ethnic background, gender, sexuality and religious beliefs. These are not insulting in themselves, but humorous caricatures of different cultures, etc. Minority groups frequently feel as though the state considers them so immature that they lack the ability to recognise the difference between humour and deliberate insult.

Through political correctness, minority workers feel alienated from their colleagues. They feel as though their colleagues are always on tenterhooks, terrified of succumbing to one of the dreaded 'isms'.

Political correctness has in itself become a cause of the very segregation that its original intent was to destroy.

Bullying behaviour is unacceptable whether it is based upon one of the politically-correct issues (race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc) or any other prejudice (weight, hair colour, etc).

The issue is not between left- and right- wing politics. Political correctness is authoritarian in the sense that it tells people what they are expected to believe, and instructs them to live their lives accordingly. I believe that people should have the right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression (excepting only the most extreme cases such as incitement to murder).

I do not believe that people's civil rights should be removed through creating a culture so sensitive to issues such as race that we fear constructive conversation.

If that makes me a 'right-wing goofball', Agnostic Deeishpeople, then so be it.

That's because every other month is White History Month.

*sigh* you'd be suprised....and we get no where near as much freedom as speach! admit it! and i mean ok dont try and peg me as racist im friends with alot of different people and i mean hell when i was in kindergarnden these black girls teased me for being white, ha i dont care

If by being honest u mean stupid then yes. Anyone who could have kept a secret in that situation and didn't seems a bit short on the grey matter. Would you go up to militant anti-gay protestors and go "hey, im a gay"? or would you walk past nonchalantly?
There is a difference between being honest and being confrontational. Do you think that a gay person should HAVE TO (not should or be smart to HAVE TO) perposely avoid anti-gay protesters? Shouldn't it be the resopnsiblity of the protesters to control their own actions?

First of all you are using one form of animal abuse to rationalize another. Foxes harm farm chickens? Stop farming chickens. Problem solved. Also it is not natural, look at your teeth, now look at any meat eater in nature, same teeth? or are ours more like herbivores? Also we have a much longer intestinal track then any other meat eater which allows the semidigested meat to decompose and release carcinagens(spelling?) into out bodies. And even the tradition inuit eats mean and wears fur out of nessity. They have nothing else to wear. The majority of humans could go the rest of their lives healthily without eating or wearing aniamls.
If we didn't farm chickens they would die out! Human teeth are in fact omnivorous and so have features from both carnivores and herbivores (note incisors and canines). Also vegetarianism has been proved to cause poor brain development and stunting.

The majority of humans could go the rest of their lives healthily without eating or wearing aniamls.
No. They can't. Meat is a necessary part of the human diet. Meat is what causes our brain to grow. We are omnivores. We have the teeth of ominivores. We have the digestive tract of omnivores. (Our digestive tract isn't even remotely close to an herbivore's. It's far too small.)

That's because every other month is White History Month.
That's not true! It's history of people who happened to be white. It isn't recognised as white history and that makes me sad that my people, my white brothers and sisters have been betrayed so.

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If we didn't farm chickens they would die out!
Nope. The numerous colonies of feral chickens prove you wrong. Not the mention the other species of Gallus, which are extremely successful.

Who pisses me off?

PETA
Greenpeace
fundamentalist Christians like Pat Robertson. I'm okay with Jerry Falwell.
Extreme feminists.
Extreme masculinists.
Populists
The news media
Animal rights activists
snooty college girls
Film students who like to impress their peers by saying they NEVER watch mainstream films and you just wanna kick em in the nuts. (Sorry, had to get that out of my system. Self-worshipping film students suck.)

There is a difference between being honest and being confrontational. Do you think that a gay person should HAVE TO (not should or be smart to HAVE TO) perposely avoid anti-gay protesters? Shouldn't it be the resopnsiblity of the protesters to control their own actions?
Not particularly no u shouldn't have to BUT in the real world (not your rose-tinted fantasyland) you have to be sensible and accept that some people will always dislike you whatever you are.

If we didn't farm chickens they would die out! Human teeth are in fact omnivorous and so have features from both carnivores and herbivores (note incisors and canines). Also vegetarianism has been proved to cause poor brain development and stunting.
I seriously doublt the valitidty of that entire statement as our "canines" are extremely like those of other meat eaters specifially canines. Also studies have shown that meat eating causes high colesteral, diabeates, high blood pressure, and impotence furthermroethe anti-biotics that are pumped into aniamal cause bacterica and viri to become stronger and more resistant and more harmful. Also the huge amonts of conentrated feces and urine that come from big farms effectivly poisens the ground water and kills alot more animals and makes more people sick than eating veggies ever did.

Nope. The numerous colonies of feral chickens prove you wrong. Not the mention the other species of Gallus, which are extremely successful.
Depends where you are. Some places have the right sort of predators and conditions and some don't

Political correctness is getting way out of hand nowadays. Now you get dirty looks if you call someone 'gay' and not 'homosexual', or if you call someone black instead of 'african american'.
I've never noticed it. I've heard it complained about left and right, but haven't seen it. Then again, it could just the people with whom I associate.
Also vegetarianism has been proved to cause poor brain development and stunting.
Somehow, I think you made that one of whole cloth.
:rolleyes:

I've never noticed it. I've heard it complained about left and right, but haven't seen it. Then again, it could just the people with whom I associate.
Where I live people exchange gay for homosexual and black for african american all the time.

Not particularly no u shouldn't have to BUT in the real world (not your rose-tinted fantasyland) you have to be sensible and accept that some people will always dislike you whatever you are.
First of all, I'm nto going to continue to have this conversation with you if you are going to belittle my position with phrases like "rose-tinted fantasyland". I have been respectful and I would apreciate it if you would do the same. That being said would you agree that the responsibilty to do somthing different would lie on the people being agressive not the people who are being attacked?

I seriously doublt the valitidty of that entire statement as our "canines" are extremely like those of other meat eaters specifially canines. Also studies have shown that meat eating causes high colesteral, diabeates, high blood pressure, and impotence furthermroethe anti-biotics that are pumped into aniamal cause bacterica and viri to become stronger and more resistant and more harmful. Also the huge amonts of conentrated feces and urine that come from big farms effectivly poisens the ground water and kills alot more animals and makes more people sick than eating veggies ever did.
That's what I was trying to say. Canines show canrinvorous purpose. The study I quoted was produced by a medical journal. Was yours funded perechance by Quorn? The studyt showed that those children that ate meat grew up to be more robust and smarter than the lifelong vegetarians. i have also consulted 2 doctors on the necessity of meat eastiing and they have verified the correctness of my viewpoint.

Somehow, I think you made that one of whole cloth.
:rolleyes:
Technically he's right, as certain proteins found exclusively in meat are required during early stages of development to fully form the nervous system.

That's what I was trying to say. Canines show canrinvorous purpose. The study I quoted was produced by a medical journal. Was yours funded perechance by Quorn? The studyt showed that those children that ate meat grew up to be more robust and smarter than the lifelong vegetarians. i have also consulted 2 doctors on the necessity of meat eastiing and they have verified the correctness of my viewpoint.
Sorry just noticed the typo meant to say unlike. The study I am refering to was that of the medical columnist for the new york times. My doctor has also told me being a vegitarian is unheathy but unless you are a dietary specialist you only get one course in most medical schools on nutrition. I have have a limited corespondence with a dietary specialist and he told me that vegitariansism does have some pit falls but in the long run they were out weighed by the benefits.

First of all, I'm nto going to continue to have this conversation with you if you are going to belittle my position with phrases like "rose-tinted fantasyland". I have been respectful and I would apreciate it if you would do the same. That being said would you agree that the responsibilty to do somthing different would lie on the people being agressive not the people who are being attacked?
Your view that everyone should happily accept evryone else's choices, sexuality and so on, while refreshingly optimistic is not going to happen and passing laws against it will not help. People are always going to hate each other and then bandy abuse. If you don't want this then don't stir up trouble otherwise accept the consequences. while it must be difficult to put up with whatever abuse you recieve you made the choice to let your self be open to it.

Your view that everyone should happily accept evryone else's choices, sexuality and so on, while refreshingly optimistic is not going to happen and passing laws against it will not help. People are always going to hate each other and then bandy abuse. If you don't want this then don't stir up trouble otherwise accept the consequences. while it must be difficult to put up with whatever abuse you recieve you made the choice to let your self be open to it.
Why do you persist in laying all the blame on the victim?

Sorry just noticed the typo meant to say unlike. The study I am refering to was that of the medical columnist for the new york times. My doctor has also told me being a vegitarian is unheathy but unless you are a dietary specialist you only get one course in most medical schools on nutrition. I have have a limited corespondence with a dietary specialist and he told me that vegitariansism does have some pit falls but in the long run they were out weighed by the benefits.
I think my study appeared in the BMJ, a far better source then a newspaper column (esp as newspapers are edited and manipulated to suit advertisers)

Your view that everyone should happily accept evryone else's choices, sexuality and so on, while refreshingly optimistic is not going to happen and passing laws against it will not help. People are always going to hate each other and then bandy abuse. If you don't want this then don't stir up trouble otherwise accept the consequences. while it must be difficult to put up with whatever abuse you recieve you made the choice to let your self be open to it.
I realize that everone will never accept everyone, but you don't give up fighting intolerenace because of it. That would be like saying "People will always kill, so lets stop punishing them." The idea is to aim for perfection and get as much good done as you can. Also as I stated earlier in this thread I don't think it could or should be legislated, but rather fought as a society.

Why do you persist in laying all the blame on the victim?
Laying blame on the perpetrators doesn't do anything. They won't change so unless you are going to put up with their actions then you must be the one to change.

Political correctness is getting way out of hand nowadays. Now you get dirty looks if you call someone 'gay' and not 'homosexual', or if you call someone black instead of 'african american'.


Alright, !!! without flaming !!! and hurting other people's feelings... too much... what groups/types of people piss you off the most???


-really crazy liberals (ie: michael moore, whoopee goldberg, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Madonna, Howard Dean...)
-members of PETA
-extreme feminists
-extreme conservatives (christian fundamentalists -the kind who bomb abortion clinics)
-muslim fundamentalists
-black people who were brought up in a wealthy neighborhoods who think theyre 'ghetto' because they wear baggy pants and listen to Dr. Dre loud in the $30,000 car their rich CEO parents bought them.
-ufo/alien conspirists
-hippies!!!! my god i hate them so much
-artists who are famous for throwing a bucket of paint randomely on a canvas (or drawing a red line a blue dot)
-gothic kids who think life isnt worth living and they go out of their way to try and not be like anyone else in any way shape of form (go kill yourselves)

... the list goes on and on....

BRING ON THE CONTROVERSY MY MINIONS!!!!!
LOL! Jeeze, and I thought I had issues! :D

I think my study appeared in the BMJ, a far better source then a newspaper column (esp as newspapers are edited and manipulated to suit advertisers)
It was not posted int the Newspaper column, it was an independant report, I just could not rember the name of it or the doctor and so I included that bit of information.

I realize that everone will never accept everyone, but you don't give up fighting intolerenace because of it. That would be like saying "People will always kill, so lets stop punishing them." The idea is to aim for perfection and get as much good done as you can. Also as I stated earlier in this thread I don't think it could or should be legislated, but rather fought as a society.
I think many of the major hurdles of fighting intolerance have already been jumped. Give me a few pointers on what you think needs to be done (in your opinion).

LOL! Jeeze, and I thought I had issues! :D
What exactly is that supposed to mean?

Sorry just noticed the typo meant to say unlike. The study I am refering to was that of the medical columnist for the new york times. My doctor has also told me being a vegitarian is unheathy but unless you are a dietary specialist you only get one course in most medical schools on nutrition. I have have a limited corespondence with a dietary specialist and he told me that vegitariansism does have some pit falls but in the long run they were out weighed by the benefits.

I'm not vegetarian, but it's possible to get all the protein you without eating meat. Peanuts have partial proteins and there are other plants that have the other part. I do hate groups like PETA however. They have their own beliefs and feel the need to shove them down everyone else's collective throat. In fact, I hate any overly self-righteous group.

I think many of the major hurdles of fighting intolerance have already been jumped. Give me a few pointers on what you think needs to be done (in your opinion).
I many hurdels have been been jumped but if we just let it go now progress would go backwards. I think alot of intolerance poblems aren't nessicarly cultural or racial but idealogical. An example of it is all the flaming that happens on political forums. I think basic manners would solve most of the remaing problems. If people would try to convince others of their position rather than just belittleing them that would be a major step. How to achive that is beond me though.

I'm not vegetarian, but it's possible to get all the protein you without eating meat. Peanuts have partial proteins and there are other plants that have the other part. I do hate groups like PETA however. They have their own beliefs and feel the need to shove them down everyone else's collective throat. In fact, I hate any overly self-righteous group.
PETA is so vocal (and shovey sometimes) because it is very frusterating to try to inform people and to have them say things like "So, meat tastes good" They have your best interests at heart though. Also most interest groups are just as pushy, NRA Tobacco Lobby, ACLU it isn't limited to PETA

I many hurdels have been been jumped but if we just let it go now progress would go backwards. I think alot of intolerance poblems aren't nessicarly cultural or racial but idealogical. An example of it is all the flaming that happens on political forums. I think basic manners would solve most of the remaing problems. If people would try to convince others of their position rather than just belittleing them that would be a major step. How to achive that is beond me though.
Manners is for talking to real people. The great theing about forums is that you can say pretty much anything without having to worry about the consequences of offending someone.

PETA is so vocal (and shovey sometimes) because it is very frusterating to try to inform people and to have them say things like "So, meat tastes good" They have your best interests at heart though. Also most interest groups are just as pushy, NRA Tobacco Lobby, ACLU it isn't limited to PETA
Meat tastes good and is good for you. Its not cruel and its the natural way of doing things.

Manners is for talking to real people. The great theing about forums is that you can say pretty much anything without having to worry about the consequences of offending someone.
I don't see any reason to act different on forums then in real life. But maybe I'm no fun *sigh*

Not cruel?
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=meet_your_meat
Edit:I have been on this thread for three hours, my boss is gonna be pissed. Good discussion though, we should do it again.

Meat tastes good and is good for you. Its not cruel and its the natural way of doing things.

A lot of the ways to get your good tasting meat IS cruel. To be sure that it tastes 'right', you know.

No, I'm not a vegitarian, but I don't eat a lot of meat. mostly chicken, but it's a taste-issue.

Not cruel?
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=meet_your_meat
Absloure crap:
1)PETA always include only the worst excesses into their videos.
2) I am in favour of meat eating, not factory farming.
3) The actual killing (in mainstream slaughterhouse) is indisputably uncruel.
Care to reply?

PETA is so vocal (and shovey sometimes) because it is very frusterating to try to inform people and to have them say things like "So, meat tastes good" They have your best interests at heart though. Also most interest groups are just as pushy, NRA Tobacco Lobby, ACLU it isn't limited to PETA

I guess you didn't read my WHOLE post. I said that I hate ALL overly self-righteous groups. You aren't making a point when you post irrelevant responses.

GAH! I can't stand friggin' conservatives!!!

GAH! I can't stand friggin' conservatives!!!

Who are you calling a conservative? If I don't like PETA, I can still be liberal.

I see that there is no veggie reply forthcoming. Canrnivores win again! Woohoo! (takes bite from veal and chicken sandwich) "s'good"

Some animals eat meat, and humans are animals. Put one and one together and you will see how logical it is. When a wolf kills a deer, it kills it painfully and tears it up. It's obvious that nature isn't humane. And don't give me any of that "humans have the choice" crap.

Who are you calling a conservative? If I don't like PETA, I can still be liberal.
Damm PETA! Hearing their crap makes me want to kill something! "Here kitty-kitty" Mwhahahaha

Manners is for talking to real people. The great theing about forums is that you can say pretty much anything without having to worry about the consequences of offending someone.

The people here ARE real people, Morgallis, even if you're interacting with them through a keyboard. Being nice to someone 'cos they'd beat the... er, inflict grievous bodily harm on you isn't good manners. Which you've shown a good lack of on this thread by choosing to attack other people rather than their arguments, I might add.

I'd agree with Callery here on his (her?) point on manners.

Some animals eat meat, and humans are animals. Put one and one together and you will see how logical it is. When a wolf kills a deer, it kills it painfully and tears it up. It's obvious that nature isn't humane. And don't give me any of that "humans have the choice" crap.
damm right! we're doing those animals a favour by killing them nicely.

The people here ARE real people, Morgallis, even if you're interacting with them through a keyboard. Being nice to someone 'cos they'd beat the... er, inflict grievous bodily harm on you isn't good manners. Which you've shown a good lack of on this thread by choosing to attack other people rather than their arguments, I might add.

I'd agree with Callery here on his (her?) point on manners.
Are you sure that you aren't confusing attack on a viewpoint/belief for attack on a person?

damm right! we're doing those animals a favour by killing them nicely.

Except that they're often raised in ways that they'd probably PREFER being ripped apart then living that way.

Not all, of course, but a good amount.

I think its all a choice whether you eat meat or not. Oh yeah, why the hell are we talking about meatt on a "politically correct" thread?

Except that they're often raised in ways that they'd probably PREFER being ripped apart then living that way.

Not all, of course, but a good amount.
Then lets improve factory farming. Im sure some very basic measures could be taken to improve the animal's quality of life greatly. Also, could farmers stop feeding them anti-biotics! I don't want to die from TB because some yokel couldn't leave them alone!

I think its all a choice whether you eat meat or not. Oh yeah, why the hell are we talking about meatt on a "politically correct" thread?
We're discussing the PC-ness of those PETA retards.

I think its all a choice whether you eat meat or not. Oh yeah, why the hell are we talking about meatt on a "politically correct" thread?
We're discussing the PC-ness of those PETA people. Boy how I hate them.

Slaughtering of animals can be done humanely, and for the most part, is. It is the way they are raised that is bad. Peta sucks because they only take into account the extreme and criminal cases of creuelty and pretend like it's they way it happens all of the time.

Your view that everyone should happily accept evryone else's choices, sexuality and so on, while refreshingly optimistic is not going to happen and passing laws against it will not help. People are always going to hate each other and then bandy abuse. If you don't want this then don't stir up trouble otherwise accept the consequences. while it must be difficult to put up with whatever abuse you recieve you made the choice to let your self be open to it.

Y'know, when you make statements like the one above, it's pretty easy to mistake them for personal attacks, Morgallis.

What right-wing goofballs who whine and moan about "political correctness" are really bitching about is losing their ability to bully, intimidate and ridicule. They are being called on their stupid, callous, and degrading behavior, and they don't like it. After all, if they are discouraged from using their tried-and-true debating tactics of name-calling, rude jokes, racial epiphets and insults, they would have turn to reasoned arguments.
And we know how effective those are. - Jingles
Oh, and the arguments of the rabid left on here just make soooo much sense! Yeah. RIGHT!

Political correctness is the left's answer to a problem they don't understand and have no earthly idea what to do about. Political correctness is the left's answer to religious fundamentalism; the left obviously can't approve of Christianity in any way, manner, shape or form, so they take the surface verbage, leave the spirit of the matter, and present it as a response to "diversity." Talk about wierd!

I think its all a choice whether you eat meat or not. Oh yeah, why the hell are we talking about meatt on a "politically correct" thread?
We're talking about theose damm PETA people!

Then lets improve factory farming. Im sure some very basic measures could be taken to improve the animal's quality of life greatly. Also, could farmers stop feeding them anti-biotics! I don't want to die from TB because some yokel couldn't leave them alone!

Hey, I'm all for that.

But until the market for big chickens dies down, they'll keep pumping them full of stuff to make them bigger and 'healthier'.

Y'know, when you make statements like the one above, it's pretty easy to mistake them for personal attacks, Morgallis.
It's not a personal attack. It's an attack on his viewpoint and a vaild one. Satisfied or would uou like to quote me some more?

Hey, I'm all for that.

But until the market for big chickens dies down, they'll keep pumping them full of stuff to make them bigger and 'healthier'.
Smaller, more naturally chickens taste nicer as the fat to meat ratio is higher, giving greater flavour and succulence. However, factory farmed chickens are cheaper. I pay the extra, do YOU? :confused:

Perhaps an unwanted word of wisdom.... not mine of course... but something fitting a good many of the posts...

when it comes to talking and eating, one of most humans preoccupations.....

"It is not what goes into the mouth that offends, but that which comes out.

Translated of course….

daniel

Perhaps an unwanted word of wisdom.... not mine of course... but something fitting a good many of the posts...

when it comes to talking and eating, one of most humans preoccupations.....

"It is not what goes into the mouth that offends, but that which comes out.

daniel

Smaller, more naturally chickens taste nicer as the fat to meat ratio is higher, giving greater flavour and succulence. However, factory farmed chickens are cheaper. I pay the extra, do YOU? :confused:

They may taste better, but to someone who just looks at size and decides on a bigger one because it'll provide more, it doesn't matter.

I don't pay for my food... I'm only 17. I don't go shopping with my parents anymore, so I really have no clue what they pay for. When I do pay for my own food, I'll go for the chicken without a bunch of antibotics and other junk shoved into them. I'm allergic to anitbotics, why even touch it?

hey guys im back,
wow how the thread has changed! i know were didscussing because of the peta people but acctually theve never bothered me, i mean hey i dont belive in animal curility or hunting to 'thin numbers' but if your humanie and ur gonna like not waste it then go ahead, dont bait it or anything lame like that but uhh i dont know im not a vegitarian, not do i plan on ever being one but hey i do think animal rights is mildly important and that the enviroment is as well, but oh dont peg me as a hippe or a liberal, im independant my friends....screw all partys.... :D

Is it politically incorrect to eat a ham sandwich on Jewish Rye?

Is it politically incorrect to eat a ham sandwich on Jewish Rye?

haha lmao off that was nice god in the phycotic pc world we live in it probly is...it probly is

Oh, and the arguments of the rabid left on here just make soooo much sense! Yeah. RIGHT!

Political correctness is the left's answer to a problem they don't understand and have no earthly idea what to do about. Political correctness is the left's answer to religious fundamentalism; the left obviously can't approve of Christianity in any way, manner, shape or form, so they take the surface verbage, leave the spirit of the matter, and present it as a response to "diversity." Talk about wierd!

ingenious simply ingenious which brings me to this

"the republicans ideas are wrong but the demicrats have none"
-lewis black

Anus. The correct wording would be anus. Or glutious maximas.