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Man, every Religion thread turns into a flame war.

Well now, while i was talking to myself this morning, i realized something about christianity. I believe that Christians believe people who commit sins do it because Satan is controlling them. People who commit sins apparently are sent to hell by god. If sin are caused because a person is controlled by Satan, it means that they are weak willed, spirtiualy weak, not sure what the exact words are, but its something like that. So, that means god is weeding out weak people when they die and sending them to hell, and only letting the strong into heaven. Now then, i believe this is called "Natural Selection", a term mainly used by Evolunstionts like me to say why a species went exctint, because it was too weak, or couldnt adapt, or mother nature was having her period and decided to **** up earth. So, techniccaly Christians are using an Evolunstionst conecpt, even though thier beliefs go against evolunstionst concepts. Ill just leave it at that.



1. No...just....no.

2. Who says our beliefs cannot coexist with evolutionary concepts? Evolution is happening all around us, it's pretty observable. The only real issue is when certain evolutionary theories contrast with biblical accounts.

1. No...just....no.

2. Who says our beliefs cannot coexist with evolutionary concepts? Evolution is happening all around us, it's pretty observable. The only real issue is when certain evolutionary theories contrast with biblical accounts.

wow, a creatonist who also believes in evolution, rare.

also, im not saying they cant coexist, im just saying, why is the bible using an evolusionist concept, when whats written in there goes against evoluntion?

wow, a creatonist who also believes in evolution, rare.

also, im not saying they cant coexist, im just saying, why is the bible using an evolusionist concept, when whats written in there goes against evoluntion?



My point was that nothing in there does oppose evolution, except for the biblical account of creation, which itself leaves plenty of room for natural alteration. Some parts even necessitate evolution.

wow, a creatonist who also believes in evolution, rare.

also, im not saying they cant coexist, im just saying, why is the bible using an evolusionist concept, when whats written in there goes against evoluntion?

No, it's not. You're twisting things to your own agenda to find fault in Christianity.

My point was that nothing in there does oppose evolution, except for the biblical account of creation, which itself leaves plenty of room for natural alteration. Some parts even necessitate evolution.

well, thx, you took down one contradiction and put up another one!

I believe that most christians dont believe in evolutionism because they say all creatures were on the earth at the start, but all that the bible said was that multiple creatures were formed by god, the bible never said ALL the animals here now were there after creatonism!

well, thx, you took down one contradiction and put up another one!

I believe that most christians dont believe in evolutionism because they say all creatures were on the earth at the start, but all that the bible said was that multiple creatures were formed by god, the bible never said ALL the animals here now were there after creatonism!



Pardon me, but I do not see a contradiction here.

the fact that most christians dont believe in evolutionism, even though the bible nessecitisises it

Well now, while i was talking to myself this morning, i realized something about christianity. I believe that Christians believe people who commit sins do it because Satan is controlling them.
Wrong! So incredibly wrong. God gave us free will.


People who commit sins apparently are sent to hell by god. If sin are caused because a person is controlled by Satan, it means that they are weak willed, spirtiualy weak, not sure what the exact words are, but its something like that. So, that means god is weeding out weak people when they die and sending them to hell, and only letting the strong into heaven. Now then, i believe this is called "Natural Selection", a term mainly used by Evolunstionts like me to say why a species went exctint, because it was too weak, or couldnt adapt, or mother nature was having her period and decided to **** up earth. So, techniccaly Christians are using an Evolunstionst conecpt, even though thier beliefs go against evolunstionst concepts. Ill just leave it at that.
I'm pretty sure that the vatican has stated that evolution is an acceptable theory (or something like that) so long as you believe that it's god who started and guided that process.

the fact that most christians dont believe in evolutionism, even though the bible nessecitisises it

Most Christians do believe in evolution, however.

:confused: i think im half-stoned so im probably writing some stuff that isnt right

the fact that most christians dont believe in evolutionism, even though the bible nessecitisises it
Alot do believe in evolution just that it's guided and/or started off by God.

Most Christians do believe in evolution, however.

actually, most of the christians at the church i formely went to before i converted to athiesism, didnt believe in evolutionism

actually, most of the christians at the church i formely went to before i converted to athiesism, didnt believe in evolutionism
which church was that.?

the fact that most christians dont believe in evolutionism, even though the bible nessecitisises it



Not really, I think nearly every Christian believes in micro-evolution and many believe in macro-evolution, assuming a Designer guided the process.

well, thx, you took down one contradiction and put up another one!

I believe that most christians dont believe in evolutionism because they say all creatures were on the earth at the start, but all that the bible said was that multiple creatures were formed by god, the bible never said ALL the animals here now were there after creatonism!

At the risk of sounding extremely stupid, I can say I believe that all the creatures were formed by God AND evolution happened. Before you start flaming and screaming it's impossible, read.

The Bible says He created them and 'gave' them to man to name them. We've been doing that. It does NOT say he 'gave' them all to man at once to name... or even that they were all there with them. It simply says they were made.

And if you want to go into the 'well, the world was made in a week...' arguement, think about time. Could it be possible that not everything is on our time? ;)

At the risk of sounding extremely stupid, I can say I believe that all the creatures were formed by God AND evolution happened. Before you start flaming and screaming it's impossible, read.

The Bible says He created them and 'gave' them to man to name them. We've been doing that. It does NOT say he 'gave' them all to man at once to name... or even that they were all there with them. It simply says they were made.

And if you want to go into the 'well, the world was made in a week...' arguement, think about time. Could it be possible that not everything is on our time? ;)



The biblical account of creation is one of those parts that is very ambiguous and open to interpretation.

actually, most of the christians at the church i formely went to before i converted to athiesism, didnt believe in evolutionism
Totally unfair to say that the Christians at your church are representative of the entire Christian following.

The Vatican has even endorsed Evolution, and Catholics are widely considered to be the most pig-headed of the Christians. If even we're "allowed" to believe it now, and in fact are taught evolutionary theories in PRIVATE schools, then how do you figure it's not a Christian belief as well?

EDITED! WRONG CONTRADICTION! LOOK AT MY THIRD POST ON THIS THREAD!

So why don't you just do an edit and post your contradiction here rather than make people hunt for it?

I don't associate myself with any denomination, so I don't know how well I'd represent them. I can represent myself though and say that it's hard to disprove microevolution (a change within a species), however I don't believe in macroevolution (a change to another species).

Microevolution could explain the different colors of skin, different facial traits (caucasion, african, oriental, etc.), height, and all that other jazz within the human species. I don't contest micro. It's macro that I have issues with.

*Shrug* Just throwing in my half-pence.

I see a contradiction, but it's not having to do with evolution/creation so much as it has to do with a compassionate, loving God, who created us like we are (including weak wills for some) and then punishing us for being just like he made us.

that's the contradiction to me.

(btw, i must say that Neo Rogolia is amazingly open minded today and a pleasure to read)