NationStates Jolt Archive


Would you?

Neo Kervoskia
16-08-2005, 02:10
Okay, here's the scenario. God comes down from Canada and gives you a magic, divine, or whatever you prefer to call it, button. If you push this button th government or state of things will change as you wish. If you want anarcho-socialism to be it , then BAM! It will be, if you want Fascism, classical liberalism, masochism, Conservatism, anarcho-capitalism, Stalinism, etc. it will be. However, every one will be subjected to it. If people want to form a different type of community than what you want, we'll then they're shit out of luck. Would you push that button?
Oye Oye
16-08-2005, 02:12
Okay, here's the scenario. God comes down from Canada and gives you a magic, divine, or whatever you prefer to call it, button. If you push this button th government or state of things will change as you wish. If you want anarcho-socialism to be it , then BAM! It will be, if you want Fascism, classical liberalism, masochism, Conservatism, anarcho-capitalism, Stalinism, etc. it will be. However, every one will be subjected to it. If people want to form a different type of community than what you want, we'll then they're shit out of luck. Would you push that button?

God comes down from Canada? What was he doing there in the first place, settling the lumber dispute?
Fractal Plateaus
16-08-2005, 02:16
lmao YES!
Neo Kervoskia
16-08-2005, 02:19
God comes down from Canada? What was he doing there in the first place, settling the lumber dispute?
No, dancing and prancing with all of the woodland creatures, I guess.
Oye Oye
16-08-2005, 02:22
No, dancing and prancing with all of the woodland creatures, I guess.

And don't forget the Eskimos, musn't forget the Eskimos ;)
Epsonee
16-08-2005, 02:23
And don't forget the Eskimos, musn't forget the Eskimos ;)They prefer to be called Inuit.
Kevlanakia
16-08-2005, 02:37
They prefer to be called Inuit.
If God's on their side, I suppose it would be wise to do as they wish.

And I would push the button. And if you didn't like totalitarian father-knows-best-states, tough luck.
Tropical Montana
16-08-2005, 02:38
Basically what you are doing is asking whether freedom to choose is part of their perfect world. Of course everyone would be FOR their own right to choose. Interesting way to ask about where people stand on civil liberties.

Yes, i would push that button.

I would have a govenment of extreme civil liberties. Anyone who wanted to legislate oppression would be arrested, sent to vocational training as a Dell customer service agent, and given a one-way ticket to a friendly middle eastern, african or south american nation of their choice.. (relax, im being a little tongue in cheek there)

and then i would realize that i am discriminating against certain types of people.

there's gotta be a term for that.

Catch 22 is all i can think of.
Smunkeeville
16-08-2005, 02:47
first of all God is in Canada?!
Second, if God gave me the button then he should know if I would screw things up big time by pushing it and he gave it to me anyway? sure I would push it but I would make sure I wasn't in a bad mood when I did, or what the heck if I was God should know that too so I guess I could just blame him if everything got messy. lol
Eutrusca
16-08-2005, 02:50
Okay, here's the scenario. God comes down from Canada and gives you a magic, divine, or whatever you prefer to call it, button. If you push this button th government or state of things will change as you wish. If you want anarcho-socialism to be it , then BAM! It will be, if you want Fascism, classical liberalism, masochism, Conservatism, anarcho-capitalism, Stalinism, etc. it will be. However, every one will be subjected to it. If people want to form a different type of community than what you want, we'll then they're shit out of luck. Would you push that button?
Absolutely not. What is the point of having people who think and feel and have the ability to choose if you're going to take that away from them with some fucking "magic button?"

That's just idiocy, not to mention arrogant and elitist.
CSW
16-08-2005, 02:57
Absolutely not. What is the point of having people who think and feel and have the ability to choose if you're going to take that away from them with some fucking "magic button?"

That's just idiocy, not to mention arrogant and elitist.
Well, seeing as how that's how it works today, with us being born into governments we don't exactly agree with...
JuNii
16-08-2005, 02:57
Okay, here's the scenario. God comes down from Canada and gives you a magic, divine, or whatever you prefer to call it, button. If you push this button th government or state of things will change as you wish. If you want anarcho-socialism to be it , then BAM! It will be, if you want Fascism, classical liberalism, masochism, Conservatism, anarcho-capitalism, Stalinism, etc. it will be. However, every one will be subjected to it. If people want to form a different type of community than what you want, we'll then they're shit out of luck. Would you push that button?
Yes, after all God gave me this opportunity.

but what would I wish the changes to be?

Simple, that's for me to know and you to guess...
and seeing the people on this board, I can pretty much guess what they think I'd do.

and most of em would be wrong.
Oye Oye
16-08-2005, 02:58
They prefer to be called Inuit.

Shame on you for actually taking me (or this thread) seriously.
Vetalia
16-08-2005, 02:59
As long as I'm the leader, absolutely. And if I'm the leader, it's going to be a dictatorship; maybe benevolent, maybe not depending on my mood. Rule by decree will be the order of the day.
Laerod
16-08-2005, 03:01
I wouldn't do it. Much as I'd itch to make a form of government in which my opinion held largest amount of sway, I wouldn't even try to make the system any fairer (damn you electoral college!) than it is now, because I would be making that choice and it would be dictatorial for me to do it over the heads of everyone else.
Eutrusca
16-08-2005, 03:01
Well, seeing as how that's how it works today, with us being born into governments we don't exactly agree with...
ROFLMAO! What? Would you prefer they consult with you before you're born, just to make sure you are in agreement with a society established hundreds, if not thousands of years ago? Can you not see how arrogant and self-centered that is???
Vittos Ordination
16-08-2005, 03:02
Yes, I would push the button. My preferred form of government would allow society to evolve into whatever form of government is most suitable to the people of the nation.
Liverbreath
16-08-2005, 03:02
Okay, here's the scenario. God comes down from Canada and gives you a magic, divine, or whatever you prefer to call it, button. If you push this button th government or state of things will change as you wish. If you want anarcho-socialism to be it , then BAM! It will be, if you want Fascism, classical liberalism, masochism, Conservatism, anarcho-capitalism, Stalinism, etc. it will be. However, every one will be subjected to it. If people want to form a different type of community than what you want, we'll then they're shit out of luck. Would you push that button?

Absolutely not, if he came from Canada and said he was God, and Canada was still intact. I'd know he was an imposter and it was a trick.
Constitutionals
16-08-2005, 03:04
If God's on their side, I suppose it would be wise to do as they wish.

And I would push the button. And if you didn't like totalitarian father-knows-best-states, tough luck.


That's the principle of a father knows best state, isn't it?
Origami Tigers
16-08-2005, 03:08
Dude, you said "God damn"!!! :eek:
Constitutionals
16-08-2005, 03:08
Okay, here's the scenario. God comes down from Canada and gives you a magic, divine, or whatever you prefer to call it, button. If you push this button th government or state of things will change as you wish. If you want anarcho-socialism to be it , then BAM! It will be, if you want Fascism, classical liberalism, masochism, Conservatism, anarcho-capitalism, Stalinism, etc. it will be. However, every one will be subjected to it. If people want to form a different type of community than what you want, we'll then they're shit out of luck. Would you push that button?



Yeah, I'd push it. I cannot vote, and I and I am currently under an administration I disagree with. Besides, this time I really would be sanctioned by God, so it would work out for the best.
CSW
16-08-2005, 03:09
ROFLMAO! What? Would you prefer they consult with you before you're born, just to make sure you are in agreement with a society established hundreds, if not thousands of years ago? Can you not see how arrogant and self-centered that is???
So why can't you see how arrogant and self-centered refusing to join a society that you had no part in deciding to make is?
Wildfowl
16-08-2005, 03:11
Okay, here's the scenario. God comes down from Canada and gives you a magic, divine, or whatever you prefer to call it, button. If you push this button th government or state of things will change as you wish. If you want anarcho-socialism to be it , then BAM! It will be, if you want Fascism, classical liberalism, masochism, Conservatism, anarcho-capitalism, Stalinism, etc. it will be. However, every one will be subjected to it. If people want to form a different type of community than what you want, we'll then they're shit out of luck. Would you push that button?

I hesitate to ask, but what is a masochist government, and would a strong PVC manufacturing industry come along with it?
JuNii
16-08-2005, 03:13
ROFLMAO! What? Would you prefer they consult with you before you're born, just to make sure you are in agreement with a society established hundreds, if not thousands of years ago? Can you not see how arrogant and self-centered that is???I just wonder how the discussion could be held... A microphone inserted... :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: Gahh... now I have some nasty and very distrubing pictures in my head!
Zwange
16-08-2005, 03:16
If I pushed that button, I would become your dictator.

Sucks to be you.
The Great Sixth Reich
16-08-2005, 03:32
If I pushed that button, I would become your dictator.

Sucks to be you.

If I pushed that button, I would become your dictator.

Which is actually good for everybody. Well, as long you don't support abortion, same-sex marriage, or gun-control. :)
Douche-bagistan
16-08-2005, 03:41
God coming down from canada eh?. whats that aboot? (unless of course... as in my religion, hockeyism, god is actually Wayne Gretzky - in which case God coming down from canada would make perfect sense).

My society would be a utopia... for me atleast. Since im a fan of absolute justice, and absolute justice calls for the removal of all social freedoms:

from this day forth...

-all liberals will be forced to dress up like clowns and their only form of transportation may be the unicycle.

-all ultraconservatives and the christian right, will be forced to have atleast one abortion in their lifetime (women), and must memorize the lyrics to 5 Eminem songs, while playing Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

-all members of the PETA organization (with the exception of Pamela Anderson) will be recognized as terrorists, and will be sentenced to death by trained attack dogs and/or cattle prods.

-nudity will be compulsary for all people approved by the newly created Board of Nudity, anyone not approved by the board, and is seen naked publicly will be shot.

-country/folk/hippie music will be banned henceforth.

...

im not changing any of the above mentioned... but does neone else have some other crazy ideas to add to the profile of my new nation?

added:
1) gay marriage will be unconstitutional, but lesbian pornography is encouraged.
2) abortions are legal
3) 'under god' remains as it is... if it really bothers you that much, dont say the pledge, or go to France
4) Athiesm however improbably or impossible it may seem, will now be a religion sponsored by my government, but other religions are not discouraged.
5) taxes will be low
6) social security will be privatized
7) medicinal marijuana is illegal
8) drunk drivers will be publicly flogged
9) all records held by athletes, who caught using steroids at any point during their career (unless prescribed), will be void.
Kjata Major
16-08-2005, 03:43
If I pushed that button, I would become your dictator.

Which is actually good for everybody. Well, as long you don't support abortion, same-sex marriage, or gun-control. :)


Anyone ever hear of a scientific enterprising dictatorship?

Screw the world! Science and economy whooooo!

I'd completely change the world with a government based on massive pushes in education and science to create superior technology and spread it to the planet and entire universe.

I'd SOOOO push that button.
Oye Oye
16-08-2005, 03:44
God coming down from canada eh?. whats that aboot? (unless of course... as in my religion, hockeyism, god is actually Wayne Gretzky - in which case God coming down from canada would make perfect sense).

My society would be a utopia... for me atleast. Since im a fan of absolute justice, and absolute justice calls for the removal of all social freedoms:

from this day forth...

-all liberals will be forced to dress up like clowns and their only form of transportation may be the unicycle.

-all ultraconservatives and the christian right, will be forced to have atleast one abortion in their lifetime (women), and must memorize the lyrics to 5 Eminem songs, while playing Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

-all members of the PETA organization (with the exception of Pamela Anderson) will be recognized as terrorists, and will be sentenced to death by trained attack dogs and/or cattle prods.

-nudity will be compulsary for all people approved by the newly created Board of Nudity, anyone not approved by the board, and is seen naked publicly will be shot.

-country/folk/hippie music will be banned henceforth.

...

im not changing any of the above mentioned... but does neone else have some other crazy ideas to add to the profile of my new nation?

Pamela Anderson is a member of PETA? Good Lord the world has gone sideways.
Neo Kervoskia
16-08-2005, 04:00
I hesitate to ask, but what is a masochist government, and would a strong PVC manufacturing industry come along with it?
We all wear leather and spank each other?
Laerod
16-08-2005, 04:06
If I pushed that button, I would become your dictator.

Which is actually good for everybody. Well, as long you don't support abortion, same-sex marriage, or gun-control. :)Thank goodness that if it was my choice to push the button, I wouldn't, and we wouldn't have an idiot dictator (which in that case would have been me, making the choice of government for you).
Zwange
16-08-2005, 05:25
God coming down from canada eh?. whats that aboot? (unless of course... as in my religion, hockeyism, god is actually Wayne Gretzky - in which case God coming down from canada would make perfect sense).

My society would be a utopia... for me atleast. Since im a fan of absolute justice, and absolute justice calls for the removal of all social freedoms:

from this day forth...

-all liberals will be forced to dress up like clowns and their only form of transportation may be the unicycle.

-all ultraconservatives and the christian right, will be forced to have atleast one abortion in their lifetime (women), and must memorize the lyrics to 5 Eminem songs, while playing Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

-all members of the PETA organization (with the exception of Pamela Anderson) will be recognized as terrorists, and will be sentenced to death by trained attack dogs and/or cattle prods.

-nudity will be compulsary for all people approved by the newly created Board of Nudity, anyone not approved by the board, and is seen naked publicly will be shot.

-country/folk/hippie music will be banned henceforth.

...

im not changing any of the above mentioned... but does neone else have some other crazy ideas to add to the profile of my new nation?

added:
1) gay marriage will be unconstitutional, but lesbian pornography is encouraged.
2) abortions are legal
3) 'under god' remains as it is... if it really bothers you that much, dont say the pledge, or go to France
4) Athiesm however improbably or impossible it may seem, will now be a religion sponsored by my government, but other religions are not discouraged.
5) taxes will be low
6) social security will be privatized
7) medicinal marijuana is illegal
8) drunk drivers will be publicly flogged
9) all records held by athletes, who caught using steroids at any point during their career (unless prescribed), will be void.

Good thing you'll never be in charge.

I'd help with the floggings, though.
Neo Rogolia
16-08-2005, 05:28
I'm feeling very self-centered right now, so I would make it a totalitarian monarchy with me as the divine-ruler Queen :D
Lokiaa
16-08-2005, 05:33
I'd probably just create a world where I and my idea of government actually had some weight, so people can still have the right to choose between my righteousness and some other ideology. :p