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Due to illegal Immigration, The New Mexico Governor has declared a state of Emergency. Bill Richardson (D-NM) did this to protect his people.

I normally don't agree with Democrats but hats off to the governor for having the balls to do this.

More on this as events develope.

LOL oh that's rich...

I've seen all I want. Thanks just the same.

immigrants going into america without regulation my god this unpresidented event surely is an emergency.

okay seriously it's bad that people are illeagly immigrating to America but "protect his people" and "emergency" is a bit crazy, sounds like he's just doing it for votes to me, it will probably work too.

immigrants going into america without regulation my god this unpresidented event surely is an emergency.
It is unprecedented. Those immigrants who came in the 1800’s and early 1900’s came legally.

um.... why?

here in wales we have always had lots of immagrants (our population went from like 100,000 to 1,000,000 in 10 years or so so you can't tell me thats just because we're randy (which we are but thats beside the point)) and its never caused us any major problems they generally just find a area that isn't being filled and fill it so quite beneficial really (I went to a college where there were more people who were born out side of the country then in side wales especially my fellow science students)

um.... why?

here in wales we have always had lots of immagrants (our population went from like 100,000 to 1,000,000 in 10 years or so so you can't tell me thats just because we're randy (which we are but thats beside the point)) and its never caused us any major problems they generally just find a area that isn't being filled and fill it so quite beneficial really (I went to a college where there were more people who were born out side of the country then in side wales especially my fellow science students)
That’s cool, but an entire religious sect isn’t seeking to blow up Wales.

Please tell me there are other rational people here who realize he only did this to garner attention. Please tell me other people realize that there's no actual state of emergency.

It's actually because there's some high increase in drug smuggling and mugging in these counties as a result of illegal immigration. Not because of illegal immigration itself.

Illegal immigration, w00t.

That’s cool, but an entire religious sect isn’t seeking to blow up Wales.


Plus, Wales, and all of the United Kingdom, has been able to control immigration throught the English Channel. The Southern US has no such natural barriers.

That’s cool, but an entire religious sect isn’t seeking to blow up Wales.
Shows what you know! :D

How very sad.

Plus, Wales, and all of the United Kingdom, has been able to control immigration throught the English Channel. The Southern US has no such natural barriers.
We have the desert, which thousands die in every year. If immigration standards were lower, that wouldn’t happen.
We should let in anybody who isn’t a criminal under US law and who doesn’t have a major contagious disease.
The borders should still be secure, though, to protect against terrorists and criminals.

Hmmmm...has La Reconquista been declared? I mean...this is silly. Like you yanks don't have enough shit to worry about without delcaring ANOTHER emergency to stress you all into heart attacks.

Please tell me there are other rational people here who realize he only did this to garner attention. Please tell me other people realize that there's no actual state of emergency.

Tell that to Governor Richardson. He sees a problem with Illegal Immigration. He's actually doing something about it.

I have to support his declaration of a State of Emergency in these 4 counties.

Hmmmm...has La Reconquista been declared? I mean...this is silly. Like you yanks don't have enough shit to worry about without delcaring ANOTHER emergency to stress you all into heart attacks.

Bush didn't declare this one. It was the New Mexican Governor (Democrat) who declared this emergency and quite properly too.

Corny (No pun intended, though it's pretty funny :D), what state do you live in?

Bush didn't declare this one. It was the New Mexican Governor (Democrat) who declared this emergency and quite properly too.
Dotted every "I" and crossed every "T", did he? Good for New Mexico's education system - the people there can rest assured at least one level of government isn't helmed by an illiterate.

Corny (No pun intended, though it's pretty funny :D), what state do you live in?

I actually live on the other side of the country. However, I have been following illegal immigration and it is one of my pet peeves with this administration. The administration isn't doing enough to curtail it and now, the governor of New Mexico was forced to take this action.

A state of emergency? Please. What a bunch of ninnies. "OH NOES TEH DRUGS ARE ATTACKING1!!" If this is an emergency, how is the US going to deal with being nuked for the first time? You people here are CONGRATULATING the governor for "having the balls" to declare emergency? Yeah, what a brave thing to do, declare emergency, the cowardly thing to do would be to suck it up and deal with crime without resorting to stupid monkey tricks with the press. Oh wait.

Dotted every "I" and crossed every "T", did he? Good for New Mexico's education system - the people there can rest assured at least one level of government isn't helmed by an illiterate.

If you don't have any thing constructive to say, please leave.

I actually live on the other side of the country. However, I have been following illegal immigration and it is one of my pet peeves with this administration. The administration isn't doing enough to curtail it and now, the governor of New Mexico was forced to take this action.
So....you do not have firsthand experience with illegal immigration?

Come to California sometime and try pointing out an illegal immigrant from a legal one. They're the exact same people. And they are both needed in the Californian economy.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/

Looks like this has been in effect the last couple of days.

Its a nice article and it mentions the problems facing the border towns and therefor, the state of emergency.

A state of emergency? Please. What a bunch of ninnies. "OH NOES TEH DRUGS ARE ATTACKING1!!" If this is an emergency, how is the US going to deal with being nuked for the first time? You people here are CONGRATULATING the governor for "having the balls" to declare emergency? Yeah, what a brave thing to do, declare emergency, the cowardly thing to do would be to suck it up and deal with crime without resorting to stupid monkey tricks with the press. Oh wait.
How would your country deal with being nuked? I think anybody would panic.
Anyway, I don’t have a problem with the drugs. I have a problem with Mexican criminals and gangsters comming here and continuing their violent ways amongst us.
The home invasions, gang wars, muggings. It’s disgusting. The vast majority of those that commit crimes here, were criminals back in Mexico.

So....you do not have firsthand experience with illegal immigration?

Come to California sometime and try pointing out an illegal immigrant from a legal one. They're the exact same people. And they are both needed in the Californian economy.

I'm sorry but I think all illegals should be tossed back across the border. Wether or not they are good for the economy, crossing into the country is illegal and those caught should be tossed right back out of the country.

There are legal ways to enter.

I'm sorry but I think all illegals should be tossed back across the border. Wether or not they are good for the economy, crossing into the country is illegal and those caught should be tossed right back out of the country.

There are legal ways to enter.

Yes-tossed literally- if they enter illegally, they get sent back over via catapult.

Bush didn't declare this one. It was the New Mexican Governor (Democrat) who declared this emergency and quite properly too.
Yeah, I got that. The world doesn't revolve around Bush (for me) ya know...(well...bush maybe...but not Bush)

A state of emergency? Please. What a bunch of ninnies. "OH NOES TEH DRUGS ARE ATTACKING1!!" If this is an emergency, how is the US going to deal with being nuked for the first time? You people here are CONGRATULATING the governor for "having the balls" to declare emergency? Yeah, what a brave thing to do, declare emergency, the cowardly thing to do would be to suck it up and deal with crime without resorting to stupid monkey tricks with the press. Oh wait.
I like you Santa Barbara *bats eyelashes* I can't help it, I just do:)

I'm sorry but I think all illegals should be tossed back across the border. Wether or not they are good for the economy, crossing into the country is illegal and those caught should be tossed right back out of the country.

There are legal ways to enter.
Difference between a legal and illegal immigrant? Just some papers. And the money on hand to obtain such papers.

Due to illegal Immigration, The New Mexico Governor has declared a state of Emergency. Bill Richardson (D-NM) did this to protect his people.

I normally don't agree with Democrats but hats off to the governor for having the balls to do this.

More on this as events develope.

I beat you to it. I posted a thread on this a while ago.

Hats off to the Mexicans.

I beat you to it. I posted a thread on this a while ago.

Must've missed it! Sorry :D

*yawns*

Is the State of Emergency still on? It's almost time for 'Matlock'.

*zzzzzz*

I'm baffled how anybody could actually *complain* about the US wanting to halt illegal immigration. :headbang:

I want to know: does YOUR country allow unlimited immigration?

Hmm. Let's see:

Australia:Quota system.
Skilled migrants under the age of 45 who are prepared to go to regional areas can be granted a three-year temporary residency visa. After two years, they can apply for permanent residency, but only on the proviso that they remain within their allotted region.
Of the more than 8,000 TPVs (temporary protection visas) granted since 1999, 3,606 have reached their expiry date. A mere 27 refugees have been granted Permanent Protection Visas from the 604 cases considered, whereas 535 have been refused. By mid-2005, nearly all TPVs will have expired.

Canada: No immigration quota, but applicant must either have skills which are transferrable to the Canadian labor market (basket weavers from Belize need not apply, for example). You must score at least a 70 on a 100 point "evaluation" to become a legal resident.

France: Since 1973, immigration policy in France has focused primarily on stemming and deterring migration. The "Pasqua law" of 1993, named after French interior minister Charles Pasqua, sought to stem the remaining legal flows in a variety of ways: by prohibiting foreign graduates from accepting job offers by French employers and denying them a stable residence status, by increasing the waiting period for family reunification from one to two years, and by denying residency permits to foreign spouses who had been illegally in the country prior to marrying.
(A 1998 law on immigration created a special status for scientists and for scholars. Further measures introduced that year aimed at easing the conditions of entry for certain highly skilled professional categories.)

France has nonetheless continued to receive legal immigrants, with approximately 100,000 new entries per year.
The latest French census, published in March 1999, showed that there were 3,263,000 foreigners in France (5.6 percent of the total population). This represented a 9 percent decrease in the foreign population since the 1990 census. The EU average is 4.4 percent.

Ireland: A Supreme Court judgment in January 2003 removed the automatic right to permanent residence for non-national parents of Irish-born children. More recently, the government proposed a national "citizenship referendum" to eliminate an Irish-born child's automatic right to citizenship when the parents are not Irish nationals. The public overwhelmingly passed this referendum in June 2004. Both measures led to heated debates in Ireland and were noted abroad.
Ireland has maintained policies that are among the most liberal in Europe. In the absence of quotas, the number of work permits issued to non-Irish migrant workers exploded from less than 6,000 in 1999 to about 50,000 in 2003. Moreover, the great majority of migrant workers have been legally employed in relatively low-skilled occupations.
After five years of significant immigration and fairly ad hoc immigration policymaking, the Irish government seems to be in the process of formulating a more comprehensive and managed approach. While it remains to be seen how policies will develop in the next few years, the government appears to favor a "skills-based" policy that increases the restrictions on the employment of workers from outside the enlarged EU, especially in low-skilled occupations.
(Read: similar to Canada.)
Given its geography, the level of illegal immigration in Ireland is likely to be fairly low. Unlike the US, for example, Ireland does not have any porous land borders with migrant-sending countries. Illegal entry into Ireland is probably easiest via Northern Ireland, which may be easily accessed from the UK. Furthermore, because of the Common Travel Area agreement between Ireland and the UK, there are no passport controls for Irish and UK citizens traveling between the two countries.
However, in recent years, Ireland has passed a number of laws aimed at combating illegal immigration. Together, these laws provide a legal basis for deporting non-nationals in violation of Ireland's immigration laws, ban the trafficking of illegal immigrants and the carrying of a passenger who does not have proper immigration documents, and financially penalize or imprison employers and workers who do not comply with the Employment Permits Act 2003. In addition, illegal residents' access to some state benefits has been restricted.

UK: Up to 570,000 illegal immigrants are living in the UK, according to a new Home Office estimate. The Home Office says its best estimate is 430,000 but the number could be between 310,000 and 570,000.
* Currently has a quota system.
* According to the 1996 law, illegal aliens are not allowed to work.
* The number of arrivals to the UK through the quota refugee resettlement programme is limited by an annual quota, the level of which is established by Ministers each year having considered the resources available, need for resettlement globally, and impact on local services in the UK. No more than 500 people will be resettled for the financial year 2003/04.


The number of illegal immigrants currently in the US right now: 7-8 MILLION or ~2.6% of 300 million. The EU averages 4.4% TOTAL foreigners.
The number apprehended crossing the US/Mexican border per year: 1 MILLION

To put that in perspective, the population of Switzerland or Austria is living in the US illegally. And every year, 25% of Ireland's population is caught trying to sneak across the border.

*yawns*

Is the State of Emergency still on? It's almost time for 'Matlock'.

*zzzzzz*

LOL... LOL

Just an assinine idea, but we could always play Border Red Rover. They can come over here and we can go over there. Yeah right, anyway it sounded good. (*POP* There goes another brain cell -be right back, gotta catch it!)

And the money on hand to obtain such papers.

and here is the key difference between legals and illegals and why one group is considered better than the other.

nadie es ilegal!

Difference between a legal and illegal immigrant? Just some papers. And the money on hand to obtain such papers.
And quite a bit of time. Hell, I know people who are still waiting to get their green cards some three years after applying for them.

A state of emergency? Please. What a bunch of ninnies. "OH NOES TEH DRUGS ARE ATTACKING1!!" If this is an emergency, how is the US going to deal with being nuked for the first time? You people here are CONGRATULATING the governor for "having the balls" to declare emergency? Yeah, what a brave thing to do, declare emergency, the cowardly thing to do would be to suck it up and deal with crime without resorting to stupid monkey tricks with the press. Oh wait.
Dude, take your pills.

Difference between a legal and illegal immigrant? Just some papers. And the money on hand to obtain such papers.
HHMMMM. Might it also have something to do with felons not being able to get papers? And when the fuck did it become our problem anyways? Don't we spend enough money on welfare for dumb hoochies who have 8 kids and can't keep their legs closed as it is?

HHMMMM. Might it also have something to do with felons not being able to get papers? And when the fuck did it become our problem anyways? Don't we spend enough money on welfare for dumb hoochies who have 8 kids and can't keep their legs closed as it is?
Are you seriously suggesting most immigrants are on welfare and 'can't keep their legs closed'?

Might it also have something to do with felons not being able to get papers?

no

I want to know: does YOUR country allow unlimited immigration?

no, but we're working on it.

Are you seriously suggesting most immigrants are on welfare and 'can't keep their legs closed'?
No, I'm suggesting that we have too many American hoochies on welfare who can't keep their legs closed, and I don't want to add 1 million Mexicans a year to that. And as far as Mexicans, I am suggesting that most Mexican immigrants end up on welfare, because they have no skills or education.

No, I'm suggesting that we have too many American hoochies on welfare who can't keep their legs closed, and I don't want to add 1 million Mexicans a year to that. And as far as Mexicans, I am suggesting that most Mexican immigrants end up on welfare, because they have no skills or education.

And what career have you embarked on, motivational speaking?

And quite a bit of time. Hell, I know people who are still waiting to get their green cards some three years after applying for them.
Ahh yes, that fellow who invented Linux?

I am surprised that people are disagreeing with the Governor of Mexico. He only took this step because nothing else was working. I applaud it. He's a type of Governor I wouldn't mind voting for President.

And what career have you embarked on, motivational speaking?
I'm training to be a border sniper. Assistance from a distance!

I'm training to be a border sniper. Assistance from a distance!

..because pulling a trigger requires so much skill and education. :D

..because pulling a trigger requires so much skill and education. :D
Pulling the trigger is easy. Its learning not to lead so much on the women and children that gets tricky. :sniper:

..because pulling a trigger requires so much skill and education. :D

To be a sniper, it really does require skill.

To be a sniper, it really does require skill.
Or cowardice, depending on the circumstances.

Or cowardice, depending on the circumstances.
:sniper: What if your shooting a coward?

No, I'm suggesting that we have too many American hoochies on welfare who can't keep their legs closed, and I don't want to add 1 million Mexicans a year to that. And as far as Mexicans, I am suggesting that most Mexican immigrants end up on welfare, because they have no skills or education.
And you'd, of course, have proof of this? You do realize that immigrants are the hardest working segments of our population?

:sniper: What if your shooting a coward?

Suicide isn't the answer... in your case it's therapy.

And you'd, of course, have proof of this? You do realize that immigrants are the hardest working segments of our population?
Never said they weren't hard workers, but its hard to feed a family of 6 on a Jack in the Box salary, or picking fruit.

And you'd, of course, have proof of this? You do realize that immigrants are the hardest working segments of our population?

U realize that illegal immigrants are becoming number 1 in our prisions?

U realize that illegal immigrants are becoming number 1 in our prisions?

If they didn't "illegalize" immigration then they wouldn't be.

Pulling the trigger is easy. Its learning not to lead so much on the women and children that gets tricky. :sniper:

But in your eyes they're all just animals, so what difference does it make?

Seems to me with as much "Anti-Americanism" I hear so many people complain about on NS, we should be happy that somebody likes it enough to hop the border and pick grapes for us.

Ever heard of Mara Salvatrucha or MS-13? Check it out HERE (http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/ms/ms_001.htm)

If they didn't "illegalize" immigration then they wouldn't be.

Immigration itself isn't illegal Oye Oye, coming into the country itself is illegal.

Never said they weren't hard workers, but its hard to feed a family of 6 on a Jack in the Box salary, or picking fruit.
You do realize that we gain about 50k-100,000 dollars on each immigrant, not including children...

But in your eyes they're all just animals, so what difference does it make?
I'm telling you, its tricky! It's all about timing! You try it sometime and tell me it ain't hard! :sniper:

Damnit, I thought I told you kids to keep it down - Matlock's just started, for God's sakes. Go play 'State of Emergency' down by the schoolyard with the Hernandez kids.

You do realize that we gain about 50k-100,000 dollars on each immigrant, not including children...
GAIN? What?!?! Funny. HA HA

GAIN? What?!?! Funny. HA HA
We net 14 billion total. George W. Bush says so, if you don't believe me.

As a fromer resident to Albuqurque, New Mexico I find this to be one of the most redicoulous things i have ever heard. Although illegal immigration is a problem, calling a "State of Emergency" is absurd! I do give credit for having the guts to do that but as my opinion as a conservative i find this to be a way to gain more votes.

Ps- I have nothing against Mexicans. Tehy make some damn good burritos and tamales.

We net 21 billion total. George W. Bush says so, if you don't believe me.
From where? And if its true (which I doubt, but I may be wrong), then subtract that from what we spend on Border patrol and Welfare, not to mention court costs and extra police, and see whats left.

From where? And if its true (which I doubt, but I may be wrong), then subtract that from what we spend on Border patrol and Welfare, not to mention court costs and extra police, and see whats left.
14 billion. Already done for you.

The difficulty is to reconcile economic reality with political reality. Most economists believe immigration is an economic plus, not least because most immigrants arrive as young and healthy adults. Taking the difference between taxes paid and benefits received by immigrants, the National Research Council reported in 1997 that there was a “significant positive gain” of up to $10 billion a year to native Americans...In 2002 the President's Council of Economic Advisers put the gain at up to $14 billion a year.


The economist, Mar 10th 2005

I'm telling you, its tricky! It's all about timing! You try it sometime and tell me it ain't hard! :sniper:

You do whatever it takes to get yourself hard little man, personally I prefer a beautiful woman.

Immigration itself isn't illegal Oye Oye, coming into the country itself is illegal.

Now, explain how this statement makes sense.

You do whatever it takes to get yourself hard little man, personally I prefer a beautiful woman.
Dude, chicks dig snipers. :sniper: They hate whiny bitches. And quit peeking in my pants, thats harrasment.

Now, explain how this statement makes sense.

People can legally immigrate to this country. What you can't do is cross into this country illegally.

I say shoot'em all as soon as they set one foot on our soil. There are enough landscaping and treecutting companies anyway.

I say shoot'em all as soon as they set one foot on our soil. There are enough landscaping and treecutting companies anyway.
Yes, let's shoot the jaywalkers while we're at it. NO CRIME EVER. DEATH PENALTY FOR BREATHING OUT OF LINE!

so are they going to bring in colour emergency levels.
code red people crossing border illeagaly
code amber illeagal imigration imminent
code green no illeagal imigrants coming
code pink everything's fabulous!

People can legally immigrate to this country. What you can't do is cross into this country illegally.

So if they got rid of the law that made it illegal to cross into the country illegally, it would no longer be illegal to cross into the country and thus immigrants would be working to improve the economy instead of rotting in prisons that use up tax payer dollars. right?

Dude, chicks dig snipers. :sniper: They hate whiny bitches. And quit peeking in my pants, thats harrasment.

How many supermodels are dating snipers? And, what would make you think that I was peaking at your pants?

I say shoot'em all as soon as they set one foot on our soil. There are enough landscaping and treecutting companies anyway.

Simple question, for an obviously simple mind, how did San Antonio, Las Vegas, San Diego and Los Angeles get their names?

Now what was all that about? Mounties under Skates of euh... some'in' 'r other? Oh, I wish you'd calm down and talk sensibly.

Too many o'them goofballs, that's what it is. Yer all hopped up, go take the dog for a walk. Land sakes, interrupting 'Matlock' for this nonsense...

U realize that illegal immigrants are becoming number 1 in our prisions?

sorry,but they dont lock you up for being an illegal alien(unless your a muslim and a person of interest to the gov.)

i have many law enforcement friends were i am at,and all tell me the same thing.(we have a large mexican population here because of the many casino's and resorts)
the majority of the crime is being caused by illegal aliens,they get arrested for such and such,give a fake idenity,get released..fail to appear,get arrested again..get a fingerprint hit,then get deported.

i have nothing at all against immigrants..period...but legally immigrate.

yes,many work hard,but the other poster who noted that they are on welfare is correct.the husband or sig. other works,paid under the table in most cases by landscapers,framers..etc.and a low wage to boot.they do have numerous kids and cant afford to feed them,so they are on foodstamps.they also lack medical insurance,so when they get sick they go to the er not a doctor.again they dont pay,well someone has to pay for the medical bills and foodstamps.

that someone is the taxpayer,so they are taking from the system but by and large,not contributing.

do i want a kid going hungry or not being medically cared for...of coarse not.but i can barely feed my kids,well ican,but i am check to check...i have no medical insurance(i just broke my foot on my bike)and just got a 2500.00 er bill.i have to pay it or i get calls all day and nite from collectors or it (i think)goes on my credit report.

the illegal gives a fake name or s.s#and my taxes go and pay for it.

also,and i admit this is selfish,but an illegal will work for shit wages because of his status as illegal,and this drives down wages for the average worker and greases the pockets of the companies that hire them.then,now with a driven down wage,and higher taxes to cover the medical/welfare expenses,the legal taxpayer is getting screwed.

not to mention the need for additional law enforcement to deal with the additional crime,and don't kid yourself..it is a real problem,i see some of them drunk off there asses wandering around in the middle of the day,and i personally had to call the cops a few weeks ago,when i saw one breaking into my neighbors house,drunk as a skunk.was he an illegal?i don't know,but the problem is you cant tell,and they know it.

i am all for LEGAL immigration,my grandparents both legally immigrated.but they also contributed to the community as taxpayers.which you need legal status to do.

i suspect that the reason the government is turning a blind eye too this problem is because alot of companies are getting rich off the cheap labor,taxpayers are footing the bills for them(the gov just raises taxes)and they are not living in crime ridden areas.

2 cops were just killed in colorado by an illegal alien,was hidden by the illegal community,and is probably back in mexico laughing as we speak.

it is not me saying..screw the poor people,i am poor,i just want everyone to play by the rules i have to play by. :headbang:

If I may, Corneliu, you're targeting to wrong people. Go after the damn companies who hire illegals, not the illegals. I know it's easy to blaim them, and to say let's just shut our borders, but it's because they know they will find jobs, and that the companies have enough pull in Washington to keep the jobs open.

Why hire an American who won't accept less than minimum and demands benifits when you can hire an illegal?

Oh, and that comment about just needing papers and money is very, very simple. Have you checked out the procedure for immigrating to the United States? I'm currently looking at it for my fiancee when we're married. She'll be married to a natural born American so you'd THINK it would be easy.

No, the amount of paperwork required from ME let alone HER is beyond sane. And the process will take, from arival in the US to US perminat resident at least 5 years, and at any time she could be denied for no stated reason and deported if the goverment so chose.

And to apply you're talking about the hundreds of dollars, something far out of reach for most people.

It isn't a fair system, and it isn't even remotely like it was during the imigration waves.

No, I'm suggesting that we have too many American hoochies on welfare who can't keep their legs closed, and I don't want to add 1 million Mexicans a year to that. And as far as Mexicans, I am suggesting that most Mexican immigrants end up on welfare, because they have no skills or education.

in other words, you are just talking out of your ass. good to know.

in other words, you are just talking out of your ass. good to know.
Uhhmmm....... O.K. Good one.

Uhhmmm....... O.K. Good one.
You'd, of course, have statistics to buttress your argument that mexicans can't keep their legs closed and are all on welfare, of course?

You'd, of course, have statistics to buttress your argument that mexicans can't keep their legs closed and are all on welfare, of course?

Sick Dreams was referring to the working class in general rather than just Mexican immigrants.

Sick Dreams was referring to the working class in general rather than just Mexican immigrants.
Well then, it's a widely known fact that all working class people are on welfare (hence why they are called 'working class') and are unable to stop making babies.

well actually in wales we've mostly welcomed them in with open arms we are quite international in our outlook always have been

also wales hasn't been able to regulate our immegration we have no control over that (we still only have limited controll of our own internal affairs (we can't make laws, raise taxes or anything))

I'm working class i'm not on any form of welfare

being working class means that you have to work for a living

being middle class means that you tell people to work for a living

being ruling class means that you just get given money as you own stuff

if you are not working but don't have property to support you then you are the underclass (my names for these things are a little old fashioned but my definitions are correct) as you are supported by ilegal or semi ilegal means or more recently by long term support by the government

if you are supported by the government on a short term basis you are what ever class you were and are at by your new job