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Did you think the movie deserved a nc-17 rating? and was it too violent, overall howd you think the movie was to audiences.

It was a bit gruesome, but it's not anything the American public isn't prepared to see. Saving Private Ryan [if you want to talk about raw gore], was a lot worse.

As an interesting side note, I'm fairly certain Frank Miller is an Objectivist. Just read the stories. :D

I don't think it should have been rated 18 (or whatever your crazy American equivalent is). It was definitely very violent, but everyone should have been allowed to bathe in its awesomeness.

I thought it was a 15 here?

maybe I was wrong

Yeah, I think it was actually. Whatever, it should have been a 0.

sin city deserved a hard R rating. these days when movie theaters are strict about who they would let into an R movie thats sufficient to keep anyone out who shouldnt be there.

not that there werent parents stupid enough to take their smallish children to the 2 showings of it i went to but there is no way to guard against stupid parents. they would just wait and show it to the kiddies on video.

No, they should take the whole family to see it. The blood spatter effects just aren't the same on small screen.

There are way more violent movies out there and this one was largely stylized, so no-it should defenitely not have gotten an NC-17 rating.

It was a bit gruesome, but it's not anything the American public isn't prepared to see. Saving Private Ryan [if you want to talk about raw gore], was a lot worse.

As an interesting side note, I'm fairly certain Frank Miller is an Objectivist. Just read the stories. :D
How do you come to that conclusion?

I haven't seen Sin City. Compared to Kill Bill 1, is it more or less gory?

Less. I mean, it's less graphic at times, and it's in black and white. But it's also more senseless, at times.

NC-17 really has no purpose. The other day I went to see four brothers (rated R). I lost my wallet, so had no ID. Called my dad to come get me a ticket (the signs say a 21 year old can buy for someone under 17...and since I couldn't prove I am 19, he should have been able to buy for me). They made him buy a ticket and walk into the theater just so he could walk out 5 seconds later. Really, if a movie is rated R, then there is very little way for someone under 17 to get in without a parent (or in my case, someone over 17 with no ID)

I personally think the ratings should be a guideline, but not such strict policy. Yeah, kids lie to their parents and go see an R movie...but really, is it that bad? Oh no, a 12 year old might hear the word "Fuck" (which most already say) or see someone die. God forbid our children see something that doesn't make them happy.[/rant]

My opinion is pretty clear I think, but if anyone missed it in my rambling, no, sin city should not have been nc-17

It was far too violent… but straight out of the comic. I guess it just seems more gruesome in a film medium.

Still got my thumbs up! :)

How do you come to that conclusion?
Glad you asked. I also happen to be familiar with some of Miller's other work: I know for certain he's at least a libertarian, and credited Ayn Rand as his primary inspiration for the graphic novel Martha Washington Goes to War.

I thought it was a 15 here?

maybe I was wrong
15 around here. (18 first but then they realised there was no reason to it)

As a person who thinks film and game ratings are useless,

On one hand, Sin City, if taken literally is perhaps exceptionally violent even by contemporary standards. But it's so stylized and exaggerated, as a comic come to life, that I wouldn't consider it particularly violent. Relative to Kill Bill vol 1 which features, child rape/practice of pedophilia, blood spattered child assasins, parents being murdered in front of children, rape of the comatose, a fair about of good old arterial spray, more than a little dismemberment, and the occasional severe beating, all highly stylized, I would say on balance, it's less violent.

The point of NC-17 was to keep people from seeing some things in movies so that they'd never be made by large media outlets or be widely distributed. Rated X became something of a brand to shoot for thanks to the sex of some porn films that were shown in theaters, Deep Throat for example.

And that Martha Washington Goes to War graphic novel series was nuts. I could try and explain it, but I'd fail. Sufficed to say McDonald attacked the rain forests with walking statue of liberty gun platforms. It was pretty surreal.

Did you think the movie deserved a nc-17 rating? and was it too violent, overall howd you think the movie was to audiences.

Rating was fine, pity the actual movie was a shit house rip off of every Quinton movie in existance.

Rating was fine, pity the actual movie was a shit house rip off of every Quinton movie in existance.
What's a Quinton movie?

What's a Quinton movie?
Tarrentino

Tarrentino
lol

ok. You know he directed a sequence for Sin City?

lol

ok. You know he directed a sequence for Sin City?

Yeah...I do....and it was the most pathetic unoriginal tripe I'd ever seen. He should've just copied and pasted it directly from Pulp Fiction.

It was totally lame. And I loved Pulp Fiction.

The movie tried to use it's connective styled ending, but I was like "Wow oh so those stories are connected because one of the guys walked near the other guy...WOW!"

Yeah...I do....and it was the most pathetic unoriginal tripe I'd ever seen. He should've just copied and pasted it directly from Pulp Fiction.

It was totally lame. And I loved Pulp Fiction.

The movie tried to use it's connective styled ending, but I was like "Wow oh so those stories are connected because one of the guys walked near the other guy...WOW!"
Well I just have disagree. I think it was a brilliant movie and did not see any Tarantino style in it. Just film noir and comic book style. I wouldn't give the credit of connecting stories style to Tarantino. He's the one who copies everything. (usually with style and great results)

Well I just have disagree. I think it was a brilliant movie and did not see any Tarantino style in it. Just film noir and comic book style. I wouldn't give the credit of connecting stories style to Tarantino. He's the one who copies everything. (usually with style and great results)

A brilliant movie....It wasn't even written as one movie. It was an authors attempt to petily jam three books together.

A brilliant movie....It wasn't even written as one movie. It was an authors attempt to petily jam three books together.
Well it wasn't written as a movie in the first place...
Nevermind. My taste is different.

Well it wasn't written as a movie in the first place...
Nevermind. My taste is different.
Yeah, ripping peoples testicals out doesn't quite hit my quality theatre bone. But your right. Nevermind.

Yeah, ripping peoples testicals out doesn't quite hit my quality theatre bone. But your right. Nevermind.
And the raping scene in Pulp Fiction does? ;)

And the raping scene in Pulp Fiction does? ;)

I think it was slightly relevant.

If you are objectivist and like comic or graphic novels definately check out "V for Vendetta" written by Alan Moore. For that matter, anyone who loves liberty will enjoy this amazing story.