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Hey everyone! I created this nation 'cause my old one (niknil) for some reason can never access the forum :rolleyes: . I live in Canada right now, but want to get the hell outta here to somewhere with some history (beyond 200 years, that is) and culture. I was thinking possibly Ireland, and I'd be interested to know what life is like there, and whether it'd be worth it. I'd heard Irish chicks had great personalities, which is a huge bonus, is this true? and also importantly, are they hot? :D Thanks in advance for answering.

Cheers.

the Republic of Ireland is one of the most modern and prosperous countries in Europe, and both the Republic and Northern Ireland have spectacular scenery and very nice people. It's a nice place.

I love Ireland. I hope to study there, although I'm not sure if I can be bothered. One thing: you really do have to like Guinness. I always thought it was a joke, but in Dublin there genuinely is an advert on every street for it, and pubs have 6 or 7 pumps of Guinness to one of some cats-piss Euro lager. Fortunately, Guinness is lovely, so I wouldn't have thought you'd have too much time getting used to it. As for Irish girls, it's a bit racist to stereotype them in any special way, but all the ones I've met have been lovely.

the Republic of Ireland is one of the most modern and prosperous countries in Europe, and both the Republic and Northern Ireland have spectacular scenery and very nice people. It's a nice place.

And you've actually got some history, unlike Canada. Do you know anything about the state of aviation in Ireland? (I'm a pilot, so that is quite important to me)

I love Ireland. I hope to study there, although I'm not sure if I can be bothered. One thing: you really do have to like Guinness. I always thought it was a joke, but in Dublin there genuinely is an advert on every street for it, and pubs have 6 or 7 pumps of Guinness to one of some cats-piss Euro lager.
Up in Belfast it's pretty much Guiness, Harp (made by Guiness), or Tennents (made in Scotland).

And you've actually got some history, unlike Canada. Do you know anything about the state of aviation in Ireland? (I'm a pilot, so that is quite important to me)
There are quite a few airports, and I would imagine many flying clubs...I know of at least one in Northern Ireland, and I'm not even interested in it.

And yea, the history is interesting and complex.

I love Ireland. I hope to study there, although I'm not sure if I can be bothered. One thing: you really do have to like Guinness. I always thought it was a joke, but in Dublin there genuinely is an advert on every street for it, and pubs have 6 or 7 pumps of Guinness to one of some cats-piss Euro lager. Fortunately, Guinness is lovely, so I wouldn't have thought you'd have too much time getting used to it. As for Irish girls, it's a bit racist to stereotype them in any special way, but all the ones I've met have been lovely.

Fortunately I don't mind rain or cloudy weather that much, as I hear the Irish get a lot of it.

hey

im from northern ireland, i have relitives who have moved to the south and ive stayed there alot, you say their chicks have great personalities, dude u have no idea :D

And you've actually got some history, unlike Canada.

Ah, but Canada makes up for its lack of history by its excess of geography. Here in Ireland we have less geography and more history.*



* A pretty shitty history all in all, but a history none the less.

Ireland rocks! Weather isn't fantastic, but we've got fantastic senery, hot chicks and the friendliest people on Earth!!! The Guinness obsession isn't really that bad, we will drink other things! As for aerospace, don't forget ryanair basically invented the budget airline concept, and we have stacks of airlines, and four really major airports serving the entire world. For a small country, we have facinating history, well worth studying.

hey

im from northern ireland, i have relitives who have moved to the south and ive stayed there alot, you say their chicks have great personalities, dude u have no idea :D

That's good. Nothing worse than a girl who's gorgeous, but dumb as a brick.

Hey all! I created this nation 'cause my old one (niknil) for some reason can never access the forum :rolleyes: . I live in Canada right now, but want to get the hell outta here to somewhere with some history (beyond 200 years, that is) and culture. I was thinking possibly Ireland, and I'd be interested to know what life is like there, and whether it'd be worth it. I'd heard Irish chicks had great personalities, which is a huge bonus, is this true? and also importantly, are they hot? :D Thanks in advance for answering.

Cheers.
You can never generalise too much mate about a country and its people, there's good and bad everywhere.

The expression the grass is never greener comes to mind.

Ireland has a nice landscape.

Ah, but Canada makes up for its lack of history by its excess of geography. Here in Ireland we have less geography and more history.*



* A pretty shitty history all in all, but a history none the less.

Yeah, the best part of canada is it's geographic diversity and it's massive size. It's one of the few places left that aren't completely crowded. There's only 7 people per square km, and 90% of those are within like 300 km of the american border. The rest is virtually untouched.

You can never generalise too much mate about a country and its people, there's good and bad everywhere.

The expression the grass is never greener comes to mind.

Yeah I know, but hopefully it'll be more interesting elsewhere. But that's why you try to travel a bunch - then u never get bored of where u are.

And you've actually got some history, unlike Canada. Do you know anything about the state of aviation in Ireland? (I'm a pilot, so that is quite important to me)

I dont know what kind of flying you do but I just read about a new airline that is going to be based out of northern ireland. Nothing is certain at the moment but it just seemed like something that might interest you

and Ireland in some places have nice old fasion cities Ireland is really nice like I said before

and Ireland in some places have nice old fasion cities Ireland is really nice like I said before

Yeah, I like old-fashioned cities.

I dont know what kind of flying you do but I just read about a new airline that is going to be based out of northern ireland. Nothing is certain at the moment but it just seemed like something that might interest you

Well, right now I'm just a Private pilot, but I'm only 17, and I'm taking a commercial pilot course in college.

Ireland's a pretty cool place - if you don't mind the crap politics (we have a political party that's the most conservative yet, yet they call themselves socialists - it's a bit of a joke really, only the joke's on us) the current unregulated and unplanned urbanisation of the country is destroying the scenery you're talking of (in the name of progress? more like in the name of holiday homes) and in a recent poll the "warm irish welcome" dropped off the top of the list of what tourists liked about Ireland (you'd be lucky if someone in the hospitality industry actually speaks english, let alone is charming).
our immigration policy is funding a large black economy, and east europeans are brought over here to be exploited to work at below minimum wage.

Oh yeah tis a great place to live(?)

There's only 7 people per square km, and 90% of those are within like 300 km of the american border. The rest is virtually untouched.

*checks atlas*

Ireland is 51 people per square km, but there are still large swathes of agricultural and fairly untouched land.

Ireland's a pretty cool place - if you don't mind the crap politics (we have a political party that's the most conservative yet, yet they call themselves socialists - it's a bit of a joke really, only the joke's on us) the current unregulated and unplanned urbanisation of the country is destroying the scenery you're talking of (in the name of progress? more like in the name of holiday homes) and in a recent poll the "warm irish welcome" dropped off the top of the list of what tourists liked about Ireland (you'd be lucky if someone in the hospitality industry actually speaks english, let alone is charming).
our immigration policy is funding a large black economy, and east europeans are brought over here to be exploited to work at below minimum wage.

Oh yeah tis a great place to live(?)

The politics here suck too. Alberta gets raped for her oil money, which goes directly to quebec, just to keep them canadian, which is fine. It's the duty of the provinces to support the country as a whole. The problem is that Ontario then goes and ignores alberta in return. They continue to elect criminals who piss away tax-payer dollars to businesses just for being 'liberal', just because they are terrified of stephen harper (the alternative), so no matter what the liberals do, they will always form canada's government. Alberta has no say whatsoever in Federal politics, as the liberals won't even appoint any albertan senators to power.

*checks atlas*

Ireland is 51 people per square km, but there are still large swathes of agricultural and fairly untouched land.

Yeah, especially since a large percentage (I think 60-70%) of (south) ireland's population lives within 100km of dublin. So, as long as you stay outta that area, you can find solitude if you want.

'Tis a fine place. When my kids are grown and out of the house, I will most likely retire there to be near family in Northern Ireland. I'm saving up now to buy land there.

'Tis a fine place. When my kids are grown and out of the house, I will most likely retire there to be near family in Northern Ireland.
Oh aye? Whereabouts?

Oh aye? Whereabouts?

Some in Belfast, some in Omagh. I haven't decided. I'd like to live near Lough Neagh ... maybe in Lurgan or thereabouts. Time will tell.

Some in Belfast, some in Omagh. I haven't decided. I'd like to live near Lough Neagh ... maybe in Lurgan or thereabouts. Time will tell.
You might like Antrim town. Within easy reach of Belfast, while being right near to Lough Neagh.

You might like Antrim town. Within easy reach of Belfast, while being right near to Lough Neagh.

Nod ... I'd like to be near Belfast. But not too close .... I like having a large garden. :) Of course, this is all 20 years in the future ... a lot can happen in 2 decades.

From the short time I spent there on a class trip, I've come to the conclusion that the Irish are diverse, just like any other country ;)
But typical characteristics were that they were generally friendly (except for the little kid in Dublin that wanted money from us so his IRA buddies wouldn't shoot us). The country itself is rather green and rainy (though we got a lucky break when we were there). The pubs are nice, which is probably why I frequent Irish pubs in other European cities.

The cost of living is high here, especially Dublin.

Whereabouts where you thinking of living and working?

Nod ... I'd like to be near Belfast. But not too close .... I like having a large garden. :) Of course, this is all 20 years in the future ... a lot can happen in 2 decades.
Aye...Antrim has a motorway link to Belfast, so you can be in the city centre in half an hour max, but it's still very much a rural town.

And you're right, alot can happen in 20 years, especially here...good luck with whatever you end up doing.

ireland is a really nice place, depending on the part, theres city and country, theres a few major cities like dublin, cork, belfast etc. there's smaller big cities like galway, waterford, limeick etc. and more, depends what you want, if you are going to college, i recommend UL in limerick

And you've actually got some history, unlike Canada. Do you know anything about the state of aviation in Ireland? (I'm a pilot, so that is quite important to me)
Ireland has 44 airports (that includes minor airports), including two internationals. The two leading airlines are the part-state owned Aer Lingus which seems to be unhealthy these days. The success story is Ryanair. Rapidly expanding business, they are. EasyJet is also making inroads.

Ah, but Canada makes up for its lack of history by its excess of geography. Here in Ireland we have less geography and more history.*

* A pretty shitty history all in all, but a history none the less.
Ireland's history is not shitty. We saved the world.

Yeah, especially since a large percentage (I think 60-70%) of (south) ireland's population lives within 100km of dublin. So, as long as you stay outta that area, you can find solitude if you want.
It's more like 40%, though I can imagine it increasing to 60%. :(

Ireland's a pretty cool place - if you don't mind the crap politics (we have a political party that's the most conservative yet, yet they call themselves socialists - it's a bit of a joke really, only the joke's on us)

the current unregulated and unplanned urbanisation of the country is destroying the scenery you're talking of (in the name of progress? more like in the name of holiday homes) and in a recent poll the "warm irish welcome" dropped off the top of the list of what tourists liked about Ireland (you'd be lucky if someone in the hospitality industry actually speaks english, let alone is charming).
our immigration policy is funding a large black economy, and east europeans are brought over here to be exploited to work at below minimum wage.

Oh yeah tis a great place to live(?)
Fianna Fáil are not all that conservative. They're not slashing all the benefits or anything like that. I still vote Green though.

Yes, your other problems are true.

Yeah, especially since a large percentage (I think 60-70%) of (south) ireland's population lives within 100km of dublin. So, as long as you stay outta that area, you can find solitude if you want.


If you want solitude go to the west of ireland.you can literally live miles away from anyone else if you want.services would obviously be limited.if you do end up there i reccomend the ailwee caves.very cool.the burren is interesting if your big on scenery.i thought it was just depressing,grey rocks for as far as the eye can see.maybe a few plants here and there.


btw the burren is a karst area.

The cost of living is high here, especially Dublin.

Whereabouts where you thinking of living and working?

Well, I'm only 17, so this isn't likely to happen at least for the next couple of years. I'd probably not live in Dublin itself, since it's (I heard) so crowded, but other than that I don't know. Same with where I'd work; not sure yet.

Ireland's history is not shitty. We saved the world.

Huh? this I've gotta hear! Go on! :D

If you want solitude go to the west of ireland.you can literally live miles away from anyone else if you want.services would obviously be limited.if you do end up there i reccomend the ailwee caves.very cool.the burren is interesting if your big on scenery.i thought it was just depressing,grey rocks for as far as the eye can see.maybe a few plants here and there.


btw the burren is a karst area.

I don't think I'd want permanent solitude, but it's just nice to have it as an option. It's always nice to get away from everything for a bit.

Huh? this I've gotta hear! Go on! :D



Ya we saved the world.The english were so distracted trying(and failing)to take over ireland they forgot about the rest of their empire and it fell apart.if not for us the sun still wouldn't have set on the British Empire.


You owe us world......... ;)

Ya we saved the world.The english were so distracted trying(and failing)to take over ireland they forgot about the rest of their empire and it fell apart.if not for us the sun still wouldn't have set on the British Empire.


You owe us world......... ;)

Failing? didn't they eventually take Ireland, and then later southern ireland was given independance, and northern Ireland wasn't? sorry if this is incorrect. I'm not up to date on Irish history.

Failing? didn't they eventually take Ireland, and then later southern ireland was given independance, and northern Ireland wasn't? sorry if this is incorrect. I'm not up to date on Irish history.

Well ya,but it never went very well for them.and they did give 26 counties independence,and kept the 6 northern counties that now make northern ireland.after about 400 years of oppression.but that was the past and i always hated history.


On another note,ireland is very expensive to live in,rip-off ireland is a term used very frequently.

Failing? didn't they eventually take Ireland, and then later southern ireland was given independance, and northern Ireland wasn't? sorry if this is incorrect. I'm not up to date on Irish history.

No you're right - I think when Ifreann said failing they meant as in "failing to crush our spirit" or something like that

Ireland's history is bloody depressing - my teacher was a devout patriot who kept trying to drum the 1916 rising into us so that I must have had five years on the subject before I was 12. Hence I became decidedly unpatriotic.

Go to a scandinavian country they all speak english, have an amazing infrastructure and environmental record and don't have the sleazy "brown paper envelope corruption" you have in Ireland -Napoleon was wrong - Ireland is the nation of shopkeepers and as Yeats said about his homeland "what need you being come to sense but fumble in your greasy till"

On another note,ireland is very expensive to live in,rip-off ireland is a term used very frequently.

Hmm. How expensive is very expensive?

Hmm. How expensive is very expensive?

VERY

On another note,ireland is very expensive to live in,rip-off ireland is a term used very frequently.
Northern Ireland isn't...

No you're right - I think when Ifreann said failing they meant as in "failing to crush our spirit" or something like that

Ireland's history is bloody depressing - my teacher was a devout patriot who kept trying to drum the 1916 rising into us so that I must have had five years on the subject before I was 12. Hence I became decidedly unpatriotic.

Go to a scandinavian country they all speak english, have an amazing infrastructure and environmental record and don't have the sleazy "brown paper envelope corruption" you have in Ireland -Napoleon was wrong - Ireland is the nation of shopkeepers and as Yeats said about his homeland "what need you being come to sense but fumble in your greasy till"

Yeah, Norway was another one I was considering. And New Zealand. Of course, New Zealand doesn't have much history I'm interested in, and everything is very modern there, too, so.....

Hmm. How expensive is very expensive?


Well i am only 17 and dont know about day to day living costs.put it this way,there was a documentary made called 'Rip-off Ireland'(or possibly 'Rip-off Republic',not sure i didnt watch it)made on how expensive it is to live in ireland.it cant be good if they made a documentary about it.

Well i am only 17 and dont know about day to day living costs.put it this way,there was a documentary made called 'Rip-off Ireland'(or possibly 'Rip-off Republic',not sure i didnt watch it)made on how expensive it is to live in ireland.it cant be good if they made a documentary about it.

:D You make a good point. It looks hard to get into Ireland and get citizenship, too, but it's hard to get into pretty much any country.

:D You make a good point. It looks hard to get into Ireland and get citizenship, too, but it's hard to get into pretty much any country.

Marrying an irish woman might help,wont be hard to find one.i love our women,and girls obviously.but i dont know much about our citizenship requirements,its never been an issue for me.

Hmm Norway is possibly one of the most expensive countries in Europe, after Iceland I think.

However Ireland isn't far behind (Dublin is the second most expensive city to live in in the EU after Helsinki)

One thing we do have on the Nordic countries is our personality
We can make small-talk (always bitching about the weather), crack jokes and become best friends overnight, and we love Canadians.

In every other way the Northern Europeans have better countries than us, but unfortunately they've got that bloody awful "northern european reserve" which makes them unable to talk to anyone they don't know a five generation lineage of.


If you hate traffic never live in Dublin - we make Delhi look organised

Well i am only 17 and dont know about day to day living costs.put it this way,there was a documentary made called 'Rip-off Ireland'(or possibly 'Rip-off Republic',not sure i didnt watch it)made on how expensive it is to live in ireland.it cant be good if they made a documentary about it.
it's rip off republic and it's not documentary, more some people's opinion in a show, documentaries don't tell the viewers to send nappies to ministers. :D

I didn't like what I saw in that show it pulled on peoples emotions and the guy who is doing the talking comes off as ranting and it didn't explain the stuff in it properly in my opinion just what it in the shows opinion causes. (Then again I only saw the second half)

Anyway that's off topic so I should really say something on topic now...

Hey all! I created this nation 'cause my old one (niknil) for some reason can never access the forum :rolleyes: . I live in Canada right now, but want to get the hell outta here to somewhere with some history (beyond 200 years, that is) and culture. I was thinking possibly Ireland, and I'd be interested to know what life is like there, and whether it'd be worth it. I'd heard Irish chicks had great personalities, which is a huge bonus, is this true? and also importantly, are they hot? :D Thanks in advance for answering.

Cheers.

I hear Lepricaun hunting's in season now....

I hear Lepricaun hunting's in season now....


A freind of mine(well his parents)own a gift shop in cobh(down south).an american couple came in looking to buy a real leprechaun.and americans wonder why people think they're all stupid......

Hmm Norway is possibly one of the most expensive countries in Europe, after Iceland I think.

However Ireland isn't far behind (Dublin is the second most expensive city to live in in the EU after Helsinki)

One thing we do have on the Nordic countries is our personality
We can make small-talk (always bitching about the weather), crack jokes and become best friends overnight, and we love Canadians.

In every other way the Northern Europeans have better countries than us, but unfortunately they've got that bloody awful "northern european reserve" which makes them unable to talk to anyone they don't know a five generation lineage of.


If you hate traffic never live in Dublin - we make Delhi look organised
Yeah, the Irish sound awesome... I think I'd definitely move there. Now I just have to get my commercial pilot's license so I can get a job there, and I'm set :D. Also, I want to know what the canadian accent sounds like, so I'll go away for a couple years and come back here just to listen to Canadians talk. :p

A freind of mine(well his parents)own a gift shop in cobh(down south).an american couple came in looking to buy a real leprechaun.and americans wonder why people think they're all stupid......

Are you serious? It's things like that that literally make me cringe in embarassment for the poor fools. I don't suppose any of you have seen the show 'talking to americans', have you?

I hear Lepricaun hunting's in season now....
There is no plan to take over the world in the name of Ireland using lepricauns and shamrocks and alcoholic drinks.

A freind of mine(well his parents)own a gift shop in cobh(down south).an american couple came in looking to buy a real leprechaun.and americans wonder why people think they're all stupid......

ha ha. on a trip to bundoran a while back there were banners with IRA in big letters and i overheard an american guy say to his wife 'who's ira?'

A freind of mine(well his parents)own a gift shop in cobh(down south).an american couple came in looking to buy a real leprechaun.and americans wonder why people think they're all stupid......

my friend convinced a couple of americans that the word "leprechaun" was actually a derogatory word for a tribe of small statured red haired peoples indigenous to the county of Kerry. They've been persecuted by the more common stock Irish people for years and have a case in the european court for human rights to get their group added to current equality legislation...

he went on and on, and they actually bought it!!

Hey all! I created this nation 'cause my old one (niknil) for some reason can never access the forum :rolleyes: . I live in Canada right now, but want to get the hell outta here to somewhere with some history (beyond 200 years, that is) and culture. I was thinking possibly Ireland, and I'd be interested to know what life is like there, and whether it'd be worth it. I'd heard Irish chicks had great personalities, which is a huge bonus, is this true? and also importantly, are they hot? :D Thanks in advance for answering.

Cheers.

If you aren't happy where you are, chances are you won't be happy in any other country, either. And anyway, "hot chicks" is no reason to go anywhere beyond a ten-mile radius.

hi im welchy,delegate of warzone africa.
i live in ireland and wouldnt swap it for anywhere else in the world.the rebublic is beautiful in its landscaoe and scenery.jobs are plentyful and the people are mostly friendly.the price of living in ireland is quite high but thats the only downside.the population on the whole are welcoming and up for a bit or crack(fun).its a bit cold and the weather varies.it really is a great place to live. :D :D :D

Yeah, the Irish sound awesome... I think I'd definitely move there.

well before you move over here i advise you to watch this (http://imdb.com/title/tt0052722/) It'll clear up all your questions about our little island ;)

Yeah, the Irish sound awesome... I think I'd definitely move there. Now I just have to get my commercial pilot's license so I can get a job there, and I'm set :D. Also, I want to know what the canadian accent sounds like, so I'll go away for a couple years and come back here just to listen to Canadians talk. :p


If you want to your best bet is probably in and around Galway - it's a small but very bohemian city that's very popular with artist/studenty types, and shannon airport isn't that far away, and you've got the Aran Islands (beautiful), the Burren (stunning) and Connemara (amazing) on your doorstep.

well before you move over here i advise you to watch this (http://imdb.com/title/tt0052722/) It'll clear up all your questions about our little island ;)
yes if you don't watch that documentary you won't be able to live here at all.

my friend convinced a couple of americans that the word "leprechaun" was actually a derogatory word for a tribe of small statured red haired peoples indigenous to the county of Kerry. They've been persecuted by the more common stock Irish people for years and have a case in the european court for human rights to get their group added to current equality legislation...

he went on and on, and they actually bought it!!
You mean that isn't true? :confused:

And the best thing about Ireland, is you don't need your passport checked to enter Britain. :P

You mean that isn't true? :confused:
he tricked them into thinking they only lived in Kerry, that's all. :D

There is no plan to take over the world in the name of Ireland using lepricauns and shamrocks and alcoholic drinks.
Shhhhh,ta an am mi-cheart.chuirfaidhmid an fois ar an domhain nuiar a bheidh an am cheart.

Shhhhh,ta an am mi-cheart.chuirfaidhmid an fois ar an domhain nuiar a bheidh an am cheart.
Go hiontach! Ní fheicfidh siad é ag teacht!

ahem (I know I'm gonna get roasted over hot coals for this but...)

Tiocfaidh ár lá!!!!

(joking joking!!!)

he tricked them into thinking they only lived in Kerry, that's all. :D
:D

Go hiontach! Ní fheicfidh siad é ag teacht!
You southern folk talk funny :p

yeah dont tell anyone yer catholic...

ahem (I know I'm gonna get roasted over hot coals for this but...)

Tiocfaidh ár lá!!!!

(joking joking!!!)
Your joking so what, your day won't come? ;)

You southern folk talk funny :p
Yes. Wuhahahahahaha! ahem anyway

You southern folk talk funny :p
pfft no funnier than you lot up north.our chemisrty teacher is from northern ireland.we think he's gonna teach us how to make pipe bombs this year.

like we dont already know.......

pfft no funnier than you lot up north.our chemisrty teacher is from northern ireland.we think he's gonna teach us how to make pipe bombs this year.
Well...you never know...

If you aren't happy where you are, chances are you won't be happy in any other country, either. And anyway, "hot chicks" is no reason to go anywhere beyond a ten-mile radius.

No no, just a bonus. And I would never be happy spending my whole life in any one country, no matter where it is. There's so much to see out there.

Well...you never know...


the test should be fun.the more damage done to the school the higher your mark.you lose marks for blowing your own fingers/hands/arms/other limbs off

Shhhhh,ta an am mi-cheart.chuirfaidhmid an fois ar an domhain nuiar a bheidh an am cheart.
Gaelic, I presume?

Gaelic, I presume?
Yes but we call it Irish it's only people outside Ireland who call it Gaelic. And Gaelic can also mean Scotish which has similarities but isn't the same.

If you want to your best bet is probably in and around Galway - it's a small but very bohemian city that's very popular with artist/studenty types, and shannon airport isn't that far away, and you've got the Aran Islands (beautiful), the Burren (stunning) and Connemara (amazing) on your doorstep.
Cool. Thanks for all your help, everyone :)

Gaelic, I presume?
you presume correctly.a disadvantage of living in ireland,we dont speak our own language.there are some gaelteachs(gaelic speaking areas)in the west of ireland,but on the whole gaelic is dying out.although it has been made an official european language.

despite the fact most of our politicians(with the possible execption of Gerry Adams)are prob terrible at it.


All the irish you need to know is pog mo thoin.just say that to all the irish people and you'll be fine.

Yes but we call it Irish it's only people outside Ireland who call it Gaelic. And Gaelic can also mean Scotish which has similarities but isn't the same.
Does everyone there speak it? I had gotten the impression it was (no offense meant) kind of a dying language and was only spoken in isolated parts of Ireland.

you presume correctly.a disadvantage of living in ireland,we dont speak our own language.there are some gaelteachs(gaelic speaking areas)in the west of ireland,but on the whole gaelic is dying out.although it has been made an official european language.

despite the fact most of our politicians(with the possible execption of Gerry Adams)are prob terrible at it.


All the irish you need to know is pog mo thoin.just say that to all the irish people and you'll be fine.
And what does pog mo thoin mean?

Does everyone there speak it? I had gotten the impression it was (no offense meant) kind of a dying language and was only spoken in isolated parts of Ireland.


we're all thought it in school,well the vast majority of us.i think people with dyslexia get an exemption.but in general its not spoken outside the classroom.

EDIT: pog mo thoin=kiss my arse

All the irish you need to know is pog mo thoin.just say that to all the irish people and you'll be fine.

;) yes, and you should also say 'Téigh trasna ort féin'

we're all thought it in school,well the vast majority of us.i think people with dyslexia get an exemption.but in general its not spoken outside the classroom.

EDIT:pog mo thoin=kiss my arse
Lol :D I knew it'd mean something like that. That's terrible to hear that people don't speak it in everyday language. A country's language should never die out and be replaced by another country's. That's not right. :headbang:

Yes Toose Phrases Should Help u,
Insulting Irish People Will Surley Make You Popular And Not Dead In Ireland,
But Unfortunitly Most of us Irish Dont Speak All That much Irish

Nope Im Dyslexic n i still Have To Do Irish, But I Love It Caus Its Funn To insult People In Foreign Countries when they dont no wat your saying!
And Irish Collage Is D Best Laf Too!
But I Got Exempt From French In The University of Ireland Colleges!

Lol :D I knew it'd mean something like that. That's terrible to hear that people don't speak it in everyday language. A country's language should never die out and be replaced by another country's. That's not right. :headbang:


no its not.and every now and then the idea of revival comes up.but nothing significant has been done.you onlt need irish if you want to be a teacher,a lawyer,or a garda(a member of the Garda Siochana,the irish police force.one is a garda,or 'gard',more are gardai)

but on the whole gaelic is dying out.
My mom would kill you for saying that. She runs this site: http://www.gaeilgenaseachtaine.com/ you have to register though.

although it has been made an official european language.

woohoo, I'll be able to work for the eu without having to learn french.(I'm crap at french and was going to ditch it anyway, did Junior Cert this year)

despite the fact most of our politicians(with the possible execption of Gerry Adams)are prob terrible at it.

Gerry adams isn't that good at it either I think.

Actually I Believe They're Called Shades!

;) yes, and you should also say 'Téigh trasna ort féin'
Well, I can't find a Gaelic-English translator on the net, so I'll just assume the worst and not say that :)

Well, I can't find a Gaelic-English translator on the net, so I'll just assume the worst and not say that :)

it means 'go feck yourself'

Ha! Moron

Oh And Yeah Gerry adams Is Really Good At Irish

Ha! Moron

Who, which, what, huh?

Ha! Moron

Oh And Yeah Gerry adams Is Really Good At Irish
Who's a moron? and what was that about shades earlier?

That's terrible to hear that people don't speak it in everyday language. A country's language should never die out and be replaced by another country's. That's not right. :headbang:

it is terrible. kids today don't know that gaeilge is a very useful language.... especially with getting out of trouble from the gardai

Go to a scandinavian country they don't have the sleazy "brown paper envelope corruption" you have in Ireland
Well, Denmark does.

Lol :D I knew it'd mean something like that. That's terrible to hear that people don't speak it in everyday language. A country's language should never die out and be replaced by another country's. That's not right. :headbang:
That's imperialism for you. The people who founded Ireland, especially Eamonn de Valera, thought so too. That's why they made Irish mandatory in schools. That didn't do anything to stop the decline of Irish though; it only made several generations of Irish people who hate the language.

That's imperialism for you. The people who founded Ireland, especially Eamonn de Valera, thought so too.
Aye, but he was American :p

it is terrible. kids today don't know that gaeilge is a very useful language.... especially with getting out of trouble from the gardai
And it seems like English is totally taking over the world. Pretty much everyone speaks it. Of course, that makes life easier for me, but I still hate to see it happen, and the effects it has on other cultures.

it is terrible. kids today don't know that gaeilge is a very useful language.... especially with getting out of trouble from the gardai


how so?they all speak irish.well they have enough irish to arrest you.

because it's an official language(in ireland,all this predated it being an official european language)you have the right to be questioned in irish,be arrested in irish,have your entire court case carried out in irish,and the same applies to almost every oficial thing you can think of.

Aye, but he was American :p
would have been shot if he wasn't.

would have been shot if he wasn't.


And he wouldnt have done the country much good then.

And it seems like English is totally taking over the world. Pretty much everyone speaks it. Of course, that makes life easier for me, but I still hate to see it happen, and the effects it has on other cultures.

ah, well. the least we can do is ruin the language with bad annunciation and use of slang. that'll show 'em!

gaeilge
Is that the real/correct way to spell it? or a mistake?

Is that the real way to spell it? or a mistake?
it's the irish for it.

how so?they all speak irish.well they have enough irish to arrest you.

because it's an official language(in ireland,all this predated it being an official european language)you have the right to be questioned in irish,be arrested in irish,have your entire court case carried out in irish,and the same applies to almost every oficial thing you can think of.

refuse to speak english and have everything done in irish. if you've done just a bit of minor damage and if the gards don't know the language enough to get by than you're off the hook

ah, well. the least we can do is ruin the language with bad annunciation and use of slang. that'll show 'em!
That'll fecking show those arses!

Is that the real/correct way to spell it? or a mistake?
gailge is right.dont know where gaelic came from.

ah, well. the least we can do is ruin the language with bad annunciation and use of slang. that'll show 'em!
Boo-yah.

would have been shot if he wasn't.
Funny how several American Presidents were of Irish stock, and then an American becomes Irish President.

That'll fecking show those arses!

we've actually got irish slang words in the english dictionary.well the collins english dictionary.like langer,and knacker.

we've actually got irish slang words in the english dictionary.well the collins english dictionary.like langer,and knacker.
Now we just have to get them to those pikeys(does pikey have a proper spelling yet?) in Oxford!

Now we just have to get them to those pikeys(does pikey have a proper spelling yet?) in Oxford!

i dont think so.of pikey,such a funny word.right up there with bungalow.

but back on topic,another good thing about ireland,the ira have agreed to decommision their arms(break up their guns)

Irish is spoken by 5% of the country on a daily basis: That's roughly 200,000 people.

In the latest Census, only 40% of the population can understand Irish.

The Leinster dialect of Irish has died out, the Ghaelteacht areas are confined to remote and rural areas (Whereby 80% of the people must speak Irish everyday), which are starting to decline.

Irish is being tought in a very ineffective and money-wasting way. It is correct in saying it doesn't go beyond the classroom, though it is required for many jobs - But recently, Irish is no longer a requirement for An Garda Síochana (Police).
I believe it should either be abandoned, or there should be a restructurement of the teaching system. Of course I want the latter.

We refer to Gaelic as Irish, Scottish and Manx. While foreigners refer to Gaelic as Irish (Maybe Scottish).

Scotland was populated by Irish Celts, we brought along our form of Gaelic, hence the similarities. Manx Gaelic - Isle of Man, has died out (19th century), which was the third "Q Celtic", or Goidelic language. Overall there are six types of gaelic. "P Celtic" or Brythonic is the other Celtic language, which inculdes: Welsh (22% of Wales speaks Welsh; the highest of all Celtic areas), Cornish (Extinct, since 18th Century) and Breton (Brittany, France, 800,000 speakers, almost died out in the 17th century but was revived). The main differences between the two are pronunciation, while grammar and structure is similar.

English is spoken by 500,000,000 people, and 300,000,000 people have it as a second language. Irish has been severely Anglicised, which I view as a terrible thing. Our alphabet now includes letters that were non existant in the language 10+ years ago (E.g. V, W, J etc...)

If you're interested in Ireland, Irish history and political history, read all books by Tim Pat Coogan. You'll see how unfair our history was, and you'll wonder why we even recognise Northern Ireland. On that subject, a smart Irish person will be aware of the dangers of getting N.Ireland back. The Unionist terrorists will bomb the feck out of Dublin, and other cities, we cannot handle that. Right now, we're letting Britain foot the bill, you can see that they do not want it, they will pull out if given the chance - E.g. the IRA promised to decomission, will they? No one knows, but even still, Britain has reduced its presence to 5,000 troops - starting immediatly. Talk to any British person, their most likely answer will be: "Get rid of N.Ireland.", N.Ireland, and the unionist population are a thorn in the side of everyone (Here's some information for you: The KKK was invented by extreme Unionists, so they've infringed on the rights of blacks, and other non "WASPs"), Ireland, Britain...

The only way to get it back, with as little as violence as possible, is to create an independant state, five years after creation, start ceding one county per year. Obviously a ten year process, but is better than what Mr.Adams has in mind, which is rather short sighted.

Ireland is a beautiful country, any foreigner who visits can tell you that.
We have the fastest growing economy in Europe, at present, at 5.5% growth (Expected to increase). But even so, compared to the rest of Europe (Excl. Britain), we're backwards, and not in a good way. They do not litter like us, every weekend, when people go out to drink etc... It ends up costing the government more than the revenue, we drink way too much. Our people are not as responsible or mature as the rest of Europe (Again excl. Britain). Our infrastructure is not the best (Europeans, excl. Ireland and Britain, love insulting the Belgians for their infrastructure, when I visited, it was several hundred times greater than the Irish infrastructure.), our public transport lacks... The list goes on. Ireland is a very dear country, one of the dearest in Europe, with a pint of beer costing 6 Euro, as but one example, tax is reletively low, but that's a 'guise, the cost of living in all sectors is high, and competition is low. For thirty years we have a law called the "Groceries Order", which protects Irish businesses, but drives up the cost of goods sold. It was used to protect small businesses as we entered the EU, but now, they're all gone. Recently a German shop, called Lidl entered the scene (Pronounced "Leedle", NOT "Lidle" or "Lie-dul", fecking retarded gobshites pronounce it incorrectly. :headbang: ), of which, my brother is purchasing manager of, prices have dropped dramatically ever since.

Ireland is a country worth seeing, but as for the time being, living here could be better.

Edit:
English - Irish dictionary: http://www.englishirishdictionary.com/

Recently a German shop, called Lidl entered the scene (Pronounced "Leedle", NOT "Lidle" or "Lie-dul", fecking retarded gobshites pronounce it incorrectly. :headbang: ), of which, my brother is purchasing manager of, prices have dropped dramatically ever since.


no need to tell me how to pronounce it,my german teacher is always annoying us about that.

Wales is quite nice

much that has been said for ireland rings true for wales

except we are more mountainy

We have an international airport and several smaller ones about

having seen the american president thing: when the pilgrim fathers landed they decided to take a vote on the official language of america it was between English German and for some reason Welsh!!!

The exploror who maped most of canada was Welsh as well for some reason we get around a lot

also patagonia is an area where they speak welsh, but its in argentina

I think if the americans spoke welsh they'd be a lot more laid back

Ireland is cool but so is wales

Talk to any British person, their most likely answer will be: "Get rid of N.Ireland.", N.Ireland, and the unionist population are a thorn in the side of everyone (Here's some information for you: The KKK was invented by extreme Unionists, so they've infringed on the rights of blacks, and other non "WASPs"), Ireland, Britain...

The only way to get it back, with as little as violence as possible, is to create an independant state, five years after creation, start ceding one county per year. Obviously a ten year process, but is better than what Mr.Adams has in mind, which is rather short sighted.


What on earth do you mean? I don't want us to pull out of Northern Ireland. I know that the Britons have been bastards in Ireland over the last few centuries.

And I'd love to live in Ireland.

Argentina also has a very large Irish population, of which many can speak the language.


Proper pronunciation of Lidl, for me, is very important. Why? I don't need a reason...

And Comradeship, I never said every single Briton (Though looking back on it, yes, it could have been phrased better). About 6/10 Britsh people I speak to don't want to be there at all, and also, I was referring to the British government at another point, now I'm pretty sure that the Conservatives and BNP will not even consider such, but if you look at the figures, N.Ireland costs many lives, and a lot of money, especially if the IRA decides to go on a bombing campaign. And also the fact that Blair, instantaniously, started pulling out, and dismantaling barriers etc...

i dont think so.of pikey,such a funny word.right up there with bungalow.

but back on topic,another good thing about ireland,the ira have agreed to decommision their arms(break up their guns)
Yeah, but I heard they've said this before, and didn't.

Irish is being tought in a very ineffective and money-wasting way. It is correct in saying it doesn't go beyond the classroom, though it is required for many jobs

How should it be thought!?

The list goes on. Ireland is a very dear country, one of the dearest in Europe, with a pint of beer costing 6 Euro, as but one example, tax is reletively low, but that's a 'guise, the cost of living in all sectors is high, and competition is low. For thirty years we have a law called the "Groceries Order", which protects Irish businesses, but drives up the cost of goods sold. It was used to protect small businesses as we entered the EU, but now, they're all gone. Recently a German shop, called Lidl entered the scene (Pronounced "Leedle", NOT "Lidle" or "Lie-dul", fecking retarded gobshites pronounce it incorrectly. :headbang: ), of which, my brother is purchasing manager of, prices have dropped dramatically ever since.

source for the bit in bold.

Of course they have. This new statement does not surprise me.

When the statement was issued, I was listening to the radio, all I heard was these stupid Sinn Féin voters praising Gerry Adams (If you cannot tell, I seriously dislike Sinn Féin and Gerry Adams, and their voters, who consider themselves Irish "Nationalists", or "Republicans"). "Ooh, he's worked sooo hard and now they've agreed to decomission their arms, he's such a great man, blah blah blah".

Who knows, they might actually do it, but so far, we've only found a tiny arms dump of decomissioned arms in Kerry (Or that region).

I really think it's premature of Britain to order their troops away and dismantle outposts etc... So soon, and rather dangerous. For one, it was only the PIRA who issued such a statement. There are other IRA groups out there, no matter how small, can set off explosive devices, enter orginised crime or murder anyone.

Irish is spoken by 5% of the country on a daily basis: That's roughly 200,000 people.

In the latest Census, only 40% of the population can understand Irish.

The Leinster dialect of Irish has died out, the Ghaelteacht areas are confined to remote and rural areas (Whereby 80% of the people must speak Irish everyday), which are starting to decline.

Irish is being tought in a very ineffective and money-wasting way. It is correct in saying it doesn't go beyond the classroom, though it is required for many jobs - But recently, Irish is no longer a requirement for An Garda Síochana (Police).
I believe it should either be abandoned, or there should be a restructurement of the teaching system. Of course I want the latter.

We refer to Gaelic as Irish, Scottish and Manx. While foreigners refer to Gaelic as Irish (Maybe Scottish).

Scotland was populated by Irish Celts, we brought along our form of Gaelic, hence the similarities. Manx Gaelic - Isle of Man, has died out (19th century), which was the third "Q Celtic", or Goidelic language. Overall there are six types of gaelic. "P Celtic" or Brythonic is the other Celtic language, which inculdes: Welsh (22% of Wales speaks Welsh; the highest of all Celtic areas), Cornish (Extinct, since 18th Century) and Breton (Brittany, France, 800,000 speakers, almost died out in the 17th century but was revived). The main differences between the two are pronunciation, while grammar and structure is similar.

English is spoken by 500,000,000 people, and 300,000,000 people have it as a second language. Irish has been severely Anglicised, which I view as a terrible thing. Our alphabet now includes letters that were non existant in the language 10+ years ago (E.g. V, W, J etc...)

If you're interested in Ireland, Irish history and political history, read all books by Tim Pat Coogan. You'll see how unfair our history was, and you'll wonder why we even recognise Northern Ireland. On that subject, a smart Irish person will be aware of the dangers of getting N.Ireland back. The Unionist terrorists will bomb the feck out of Dublin, and other cities, we cannot handle that. Right now, we're letting Britain foot the bill, you can see that they do not want it, they will pull out if given the chance - E.g. the IRA promised to decomission, will they? No one knows, but even still, Britain has reduced its presence to 5,000 troops - starting immediatly. Talk to any British person, their most likely answer will be: "Get rid of N.Ireland.", N.Ireland, and the unionist population are a thorn in the side of everyone (Here's some information for you: The KKK was invented by extreme Unionists, so they've infringed on the rights of blacks, and other non "WASPs"), Ireland, Britain...

The only way to get it back, with as little as violence as possible, is to create an independant state, five years after creation, start ceding one county per year. Obviously a ten year process, but is better than what Mr.Adams has in mind, which is rather short sighted.

Ireland is a beautiful country, any foreigner who visits can tell you that.
We have the fastest growing economy in Europe, at present, at 5.5% growth (Expected to increase). But even so, compared to the rest of Europe (Excl. Britain), we're backwards, and not in a good way. They do not litter like us, every weekend, when people go out to drink etc... It ends up costing the government more than the revenue, we drink way too much. Our people are not as responsible or mature as the rest of Europe (Again excl. Britain). Our infrastructure is not the best (Europeans, excl. Ireland and Britain, love insulting the Belgians for their infrastructure, when I visited, it was several hundred times greater than the Irish infrastructure.), our public transport lacks... The list goes on. Ireland is a very dear country, one of the dearest in Europe, with a pint of beer costing 6 Euro, as but one example, tax is reletively low, but that's a 'guise, the cost of living in all sectors is high, and competition is low. For thirty years we have a law called the "Groceries Order", which protects Irish businesses, but drives up the cost of goods sold. It was used to protect small businesses as we entered the EU, but now, they're all gone. Recently a German shop, called Lidl entered the scene (Pronounced "Leedle", NOT "Lidle" or "Lie-dul", fecking retarded gobshites pronounce it incorrectly. :headbang: ), of which, my brother is purchasing manager of, prices have dropped dramatically ever since.

Ireland is a country worth seeing, but as for the time being, living here could be better.

Edit:
English - Irish dictionary: http://www.englishirishdictionary.com/
Thanks for the dictionary.
Well, then, what exactly do the IRA want? I thought they wanted to cede from britain and join southern ireland. Why, then, would they bomb Dublin if they joined South Ireland? wouldn't they have gotten what they wanted? or are they like Hamas, who don't actually want Israel gone, because then they would have no power; if there was peace between Israel and Palestine, Hamas would have no power base.

How should it be thought!?

source for the bit in bold.
Wow weird. When I first saw u guys spelling it thought, I thought (no pun intended) it was a typo. We spell it taught, as you probably know. That's kinda cool tho.

Hey all! I created this nation 'cause my old one (niknil) for some reason can never access the forum :rolleyes: . I live in Canada right now, but want to get the hell outta here to somewhere with some history (beyond 200 years, that is) and culture. I was thinking possibly Ireland, and I'd be interested to know what life is like there, and whether it'd be worth it. I'd heard Irish chicks had great personalities, which is a huge bonus, is this true? and also importantly, are they hot? :D Thanks in advance for answering.

Cheers.
I lived in Ireland for about 6 months, it's rife with Canadians and Poles, for some reason those two nationalities seem particularly seduced by the Emerald Isle. But it's not unjustified, the country is beautiful (if a little wet) full of delicious Guinness and lovely bubbly people with twinkly accents who generally have a fantastic sense of humour. The coast line is staggeringly untouched and well I can't imagine anyone with eyes and a sense of irony not falling in love with the place. Best of luck to you!!

Thanks for the dictionary.
Well, then, what exactly do the IRA want? I thought they wanted to cede from britain and join southern ireland. Why, then, would they bomb Dublin if they joined South Ireland? wouldn't they have gotten what they wanted? or are they like Hamas, who don't actually want Israel gone, because then they would have no power; if there was peace between Israel and Palestine, Hamas would have no power base.


The Unionists are the group opposed to the IRA.the IRA want ireland to be unified,ie for england to return the 6 counties of northern ireland.the unionists want northern ireland to remain in english hands,so to speak.

Thanks for the dictionary.
Well, then, what exactly do the IRA want? I thought they wanted to cede from britain and join southern ireland. Why, then, would they bomb Dublin if they joined South Ireland? wouldn't they have gotten what they wanted? or are they like Hamas, who don't actually want Israel gone, because then they would have no power; if there was peace between Israel and Palestine, Hamas would have no power base.
No, no, no not the IRA. There's terroist groups on the other side(loyalists) who want to be part of the UK. The Ulster Volunteer Force(UVF) and others who terrorise republicans.

The Unionists are the group opposed to the IRA.the IRA want ireland to be unified,ie for england to return the 6 counties of northern ireland.the unionists want northern ireland to remain in english hands,so to speak.
If you ask me, that seems like a pretty stupid excuse to blow up a city. The whole mess is pretty bloody stupid. Like that other guy says, though, wouldn't the obvious solution be to just declare north Ireland an independant state?

If you ask me, that seems like a pretty stupid excuse to blow up a city. The whole mess is pretty bloody stupid. Like that other guy says, though, wouldn't the obvious solution be to just declare north Ireland an independant state?


But they dont want to be independant,as far as i remember.most of them seem to be very happy being english.

I lived in Ireland for about 6 months, it's rife with Canadians and Poles
Poles because of free movement between us because of the EU (and because some nations didn't extend that to the new nations) and they have helped the economy. Canadians I don't know why.

If you ask me, that seems like a pretty stupid excuse to blow up a city. The whole mess is pretty bloody stupid. Like that other guy says, though, wouldn't the obvious solution be to just declare north Ireland an independant state?
that annoys everyone equally.

How should it be thought!?

source for the bit in bold.


I am not a politician nor an educator, but the figures are plainly obvious: No one can speak it good enough. I cannot devise a new teaching system for it, but I know it should be done with a permenant change in the primary language, as done in Brussels - Brussels is the Flemish (Dutch speaking area of Belgium) capital, but it speaks French? Why? Because in the '80s, along came the Wallonians (French speakers from the rural south) who changed the language to French, and now 80% of Brussels speaks French.


Source for the bit in bold? Go into Lidl, look at the prices. Over the last couple of years, if you've been paying attention, the prices in Dunnes Stores, Tesco etc... Have dropped, not to the level of Lidl or Aldi, but they've dropped.

If you want some more proof, there's a programme on RTÉ every week, not sure of the name, but it's someguy disecting Irish life and politics. Last week, he did the prices of items. He compared Ireland to Europe, with a significant difference.

His last piece in that episode was on Lidl and the Groceries Order. Lidl applied for planning permission in Trim for a shop - did they get it? No. The council rejected it. The locals, 8,000 in total, had a choice of driving 23km to the nearest Lidl, or shopping at Tesco, where the prices were very high. A woman, and her friends, decided to start a petition (Whilst Lidl had an on-going battle for planning permission), they got 6,000 signatures, that is more than two thirds of the population. Still the process was on-going.

But one day, the woman who started the whole petition was shopping in Lidl in Dublin, there she saw her local TD, who was opposed to a Lidl in Trim, shopping in Lidl.

They got the planning permission.
She was on the programme, and she compared the prices. At Tesco, one litre of water cost 99 Cent, in Lidl it is 40 Cent for two litres.

If you cannot see a large difference, then simply put, you're blind. The Groceries Order is holding Ireland back, protectionism is not good for the Irish people.

Also, did you not hear of Minister Martin being sent over 700 nappies? (Nappies WERE on the Groceries Order, even though it was not edible, have now been taken off) That was requested on the programme that night.

that annoys everyone equally.
Yes, but annoys nobody enough to blow anything up.

Best of luck to you!!
Thanks!

Yes, but annoys nobody enough to blow anything up.


You'd be suprised.

Thanks for the dictionary.
Well, then, what exactly do the IRA want? I thought they wanted to cede from britain and join southern ireland. Why, then, would they bomb Dublin if they joined South Ireland? wouldn't they have gotten what they wanted? or are they like Hamas, who don't actually want Israel gone, because then they would have no power; if there was peace between Israel and Palestine, Hamas would have no power base.



What you don't realise is there are Unionist terrorists, the UDA, UVF, LVF etc...

Why we don't request their decomission, I don't know.

They don't want an independant state, but as far as I know, since 2000 Catholicism is the majority (That said, religion does not decide 100% what your political status is, there are more Catholics who abstain from voting and other political activities than Protestants, and also some Catholics do support British rule, there's a Catholic MLA in the UUP, in Irish history, Protestants have played very very important roles etc...), either way, in 10 or more years, there will be more Republicans/Nationalists up there - Why else do you think Ian Paisly is worried and wants to get rid of the Good Friday agreement?

In time, no matter how long, there will come the day when an Irish party (Unfortunatly, that would most likely be Sinn Féin, as the SDLP are weak, and there are no other parties up there) is the major "player" in Stormount, and the way they will impliment reunification will be terrible for Ireland.

Edit:

We have 30,000 Poles in our country, since the 10 new countries have joined. As for Canadians... I haven't met any yet.

I love it when foreigners come to Ireland, it says something about our country. They chose Ireland, not France, not Germany, not Britain... Ireland is special... God I love foreigners :p

You'd be suprised.
Well then, what do you think would be the best way to solve the problem? apart from disarming the various groups, which is probably very difficult to do.

I commented on that show earlier.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9449473&postcount=50

And that planning issue is an example of what I said it doesn't explain why they didn't allow it!

Not that I don't agree with getting rid of the grouceries act, just that Rip off Republic is a crap show.

Does it matter what programme it was on? It had evidence, not only that, you just have to look.

Protectionism is just a part of economic conservatism, if economic conservatism was good, then Communism and Socialism would work, and China wouldn't be liberalising (I.e. moving towards capitalism and competition) its economy.

They didn't allow it because they wanted to protect local businesses, which had high prices, making more money for the government and local council.

Does it matter what programme it was on? It had evidence, not only that, you just have to look.

Protectionism is just a part of economic conservatism, if economic conservatism was good, then Communism and Socialism would work, and China wouldn't be liberalising (I.e. moving towards capitalism and competition) its economy.

They didn't allow it because they wanted to protect local businesses, which had high prices, making more money for the government and local council.
one piece of evidence water. (unless I missed more)
I'd still like to know the reason they gave and not what that person on tv claims.

They don't want an independant state, but as far as I know, since 2000 Catholicism is the majority

Nope, those of us of 'Protestant stock' remain in the majority.

Hey all! I created this nation 'cause my old one (niknil) for some reason can never access the forum :rolleyes: . I live in Canada right now, but want to get the hell outta here to somewhere with some history (beyond 200 years, that is) and culture. I was thinking possibly Ireland, and I'd be interested to know what life is like there, and whether it'd be worth it. I'd heard Irish chicks had great personalities, which is a huge bonus, is this true? and also importantly, are they hot? :D Thanks in advance for answering.

Cheers.


being Irish I can tell you that its a rip off. Everything is expensive, dublin is one ugly city and Irish women are ice maidens that look ugly.

being Irish I can tell you that its a rip off. Everything is expensive, dublin is one ugly city and Irish women are ice maidens that look ugly.
Whoa. That's pretty much the opposite of what seems to have been the consensus of this thread. (aside from the expensive bit). Dublin may be ugly, but most huge cities are.

1. It is obviously expensive; I do not need to prove that.
2. This is not America, here we do research before going on T.V. he's not a crazed lunitic saying what he believes, he's saying what he's learned and that is, that the groceries order is driving up prices, and that protectionism does not work, and that there is not enough competition in this country.

If you want to find out, then do so. Why do you need me?

Yes, you're right, there's a narrow majority, but as I said, it wouldn't make a difference if there were more Catholics:

"SUPPORT FOR UNITY
Even if the number of Protestants falls below the 50 percent mark, which some experts predicted would be shown by this census, it does not automatically mean that all Catholics would vote to secede from Britain.
Although the proportion of Catholics who support the status quo has fallen over the years, it still remains at approximately 20-25 percent.
It (a Catholic majority) would not necessarily change the make up,” said Steven Alexander, spokesman for the Alliance Party, which is neutral on the issue of staying or splitting with mainland Britain,
“In a border vote you don’t check a box saying Catholic or Protestant — it doesn’t depend on religion.” "

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Yes, unfortunatly the archatecture of Dublin isn't as great as European cities, but of course, we weren't the ones in control when industrialising it.

2. This is not America, here we do research before going on T.V. he's not a crazed lunitic saying what he believes, he's saying what he's learned and that is, that the groceries order is driving up prices, and that protectionism does not work, and that there is not enough competition in this country.

No it's opinion.

opinion

• noun 1 a view or judgement not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. 2 the beliefs or views of people in general: public opinion. 3 an estimation of quality or worth. 4 a formal statement of advice by an expert or professional.



So, you believe, that revealing all of the invisable taxes bin tax etc... To show that even though our income tax is low, we have invisable taxes that make our standard of living cost a lot, is opinion?

Revealing the Groceries Order and protectionism is what drives up prices of Irish products is opinion?

That protectionism is bad for the Irish consumer is opinion?

When Lidl was granted planning permission in Trim, suddenly the prices fell is coincidental, and therefore saying Lidl driving down prices is opinion?

So comparing the prices of average baskets of similar items in Ireland with that of Europe and the Irish basket coming up costing 20% more, is opinion?


Again: People do not randomly go on TV, and say what they want in this country. Especially on RTÉ.

You sound very very ignorant, and too lazy to even find out for yourself.

Live in Dublin and it is the best city to live in! Fun,preety and has a great night life! I have nothing bad to say about IRELAND!!

Revealing the Groceries Order and protectionism is what drives up prices of Irish products is opinion?yes it doesn't drive up prices it prevents them from coming down, it doesn't make them go further up.


That protectionism is bad for the Irish consumer is opinion?

no but saying that the "Mrs Browns" of Ireland owning corner shops are dead is not fact.

When Lidl was granted planning permission in Trim, suddenly the prices fell is coincidental, and therefore saying Lidl driving down prices is opinion?

Saying that the council stopped planning permission so they can have prices higher so they get more in taxes is opinion

So comparing the prices of average baskets of similar items in Ireland with that of Europe and the Irish basket coming up costing 20% more, is opinion?

no but it shows that it's picking facts to support his opinion in that it doesn't show average wages.

Your picking out the facts that where used to support his opinion, the show was not a documentary style these are all the facts, it was here is an opinion here are some facts that support it.

being Irish I can tell you that its a rip off. Everything is expensive, dublin is one ugly city and Irish women are ice maidens that look ugly.


Hmm dunno about the irish girls being ice maidens - are you sure that's not just you? - a recent report I read said that 70% of single women between the ages of 18-30 in Dublin are promiscuous! I say Fair Fecks Girls!

The typical Irish man that the girls go crazy about isn't the red-head, but the black hair pale skin blue eyed guy - think Gabriel Byrne

Is there an Irish "type" for girls? Don't think so, although the "bottle blonde, straightened hair, fake tans and river island clothes brigade" tend to make a large percentage.

But two other points to add - yeah Dublin especially is a complete rip off - but the architecture is pretty nice! I mean why is everyone so het up about neo-classical styles like you'd find in the promenades of Paris or Madrid - Dublin has some amazing Georgian squares and townhouses. Even Cork has a bit of charm with it winding roads (only a bit though, Cork in general is an overgrown village that's great for the familiarity buzz for the first few months but tends to get claustrophobic after a little while - with everyone knowing your business etc. Galway while smaller has less of this cause it's so relaxed. Dublin doesn't have this but on the opposite end it has the thick skinned city mentality and anonymity which can descend into plain rudeness, but can be a welcome relief if you're sick of constantly bumping into people you could care less about in places like Cork.

Oh and also N. Ireland would be a ridiculous economic burden for Ireland to shoulder, I know that it did get some investment since the good friday agreement, but in general the British government have just been throwing good money after bad - and I say let that be their punishment for screwing Ireland over, I certainly don't want to shoulder the financial burden and I also don't want to be in any way associated with a place that provided the breeding... no... spawning grounds of someone so hateful as Ian Paisley. Ireland is still relatively fundie-free and if it came to a vote I'd vote against N. Ireland joining Ireland for just that reason.

yes it doesn't drive up prices it prevents them from coming down, it doesn't make them go further up.


no but saying that the "Mrs Browns" of Ireland owning corner shops are dead is not fact.

Saying that the council stopped planning permission so they can have prices higher so they get more in taxes is opinion

no but it shows that it's picking facts to support his opinion in that it doesn't show average wages.

Your picking out the facts that where used to support his opinion, the show was not a documentary style these are all the facts, it was here is an opinion here are some facts that support it.


Your first point, well, you're right, but it makes little, or rather no difference.

There are very very few "Mrs.Browns" left, now, are you argueing that we must keep the Groceries Order in order to protect them, while the majority suffer with prices 20% higher than Europe? If so, that's rather unintelligent, and unefficient.

Third point; yes, you're right. At 01:30 my mind is not at its best. It is, infact, more financially viable to build a Lidl in Trim.
As to why they didn't:

The application was refused because planners felt that the application was contrary to the objective of consolidating and strengthening of the commercial core of Trim.


So you're saying, because the average Irish person earns 43,000 Euro per year, which makes us the second richest people in Europe, it is alright for us to pay 20% more on items, when we don't have to? I fail to see any logic in that, especially when the cost of living in all sectors of this country, is FAR higher than in any other European country.

Did I ever call it a "Documentary"? Read what I say next time.


Yes, not all of Dublin is ugly, when they redevelop areas, it is for the better (Obviously), but overall, I do feel, there can be a large change.

Ah, yes, the economic burdon. I forgot to mention that, I mentioned Britain has to throw money at it, but if we were to possess N.Ireland, we wouldn't be able to cope. Our army is inadequate, our GDP isn't as large as Britain and we cannot handle any sort of Unionist terrorists.

Irelands a good place to live. Just make sure if you are traveling to go and see all sides, go to the West-even tho it does rain a lot there it is stunning.
Go North-to Belfast and Derry and take a taxi tour-these are wonderful completely unbiast-bit scary tho!
Ireland is far more expensive than Canada. But come anyway!
Make sure you stop in Cork-best place in Ireland! :)

Hey all! I created this nation 'cause my old one (niknil) for some reason can never access the forum :rolleyes: . I live in Canada right now, but want to get the hell outta here to somewhere with some history (beyond 200 years, that is) and culture. I was thinking possibly Ireland, and I'd be interested to know what life is like there, and whether it'd be worth it. I'd heard Irish chicks had great personalities, which is a huge bonus, is this true? and also importantly, are they hot? :D Thanks in advance for answering.

Cheers.


the irish "chicks" are indeed renowened for a..lively (very lowed and common) aproach to life....this can be confused with a "great personality" :p

Miss ireland won the 2004 miss world i beleive :confused:

Yes, one thing foreigners always say: It is a beautiful country. Very beautiful.

Well, Irish women, as I see, like the Irish people are immautre and irresponsible, though not the worst in Europe, they are almost the worst. (With similar cultures, Britain just edges ahead with worse "Binge drinking" etc... Their women are crazy, but like ours, a good laugh.)


But don't get me wrong on that, where they lack in comparison to Europeans, the Irish and British are better in areas such as hospitality and friendliness to name but two.

Yes, I even met Miss World 2004. She's... Alright, I suppose. Bit annorexic.

There are very very few "Mrs.Browns" left, now, are you argueing that we must keep the Groceries Order in order to protect them, while the majority suffer with prices 20% higher than Europe? If so, that's rather unintelligent, and unefficient.

Third point; yes, you're right. At 01:30 my mind is not at its best. It is, infact, more financially viable to build a Lidl in Trim.
As to why they didn't:
The application was refused because planners felt that the application was contrary to the objective of consolidating and strengthening of the commercial core of Trim.

Thanks I was looking for that but couldn't find it.



So you're saying, because the average Irish person earns 43,000 Euro per year, which makes us the second richest people in Europe, it is alright for us to pay 20% more on items, when we don't have to? I fail to see any logic in that, especially when the cost of living in all sectors of this country, is FAR higher than in any other European country.

Did I ever call it a "Documentary"? Read what I say next time.

No I'm saying that so long as we earn more then other European nations we will be dearer then them, shouldn't be as much as 20% but it still makes up for it a little. Not all sectors are higher and defintely not all countries, don't exagerate.

I was defending my statement ealier that the show was opinion.

Hey all! I created this nation 'cause my old one (niknil) for some reason can never access the forum :rolleyes: . I live in Canada right now, but want to get the hell outta here to somewhere with some history (beyond 200 years, that is) and culture. I was thinking possibly Ireland, and I'd be interested to know what life is like there, and whether it'd be worth it. I'd heard Irish chicks had great personalities, which is a huge bonus, is this true? and also importantly, are they hot? :D Thanks in advance for answering.

Cheers.

You're hearing this from an Irish lad himself. With the lads you can have the best craic, and the girls are all sound and seriously fine, well most of them anyway.....

Calas

You're hearing this from an Irish lad himself. With the lads you can have the best craic, and the girls are all sound and seriously fine, well most of them anyway.....

Calas

Sweet. :) I'll probably take a trip there next summer to check it out. Can't wait!

Sweet. :) I'll probably take a trip there next summer to check it out. Can't wait!

well dont forget to pack for rain,no matter what time of year you come.

Thanks I was looking for that but couldn't find it.



No I'm saying that so long as we earn more then other European nations we will be dearer then them, shouldn't be as much as 20% but it still makes up for it a little. Not all sectors are higher and defintely not all countries, don't exagerate.

I was defending my statement ealier that the show was opinion.


Yes, of course, the laws of economics. Wages go up, so do prices. But take away the Groceries Order, allow competition from cheap shops such as Lidl, and you get a reduction of more than 20%.

We also have more invisable taxes, not sure how many times I've said that now, but you've failed to comment on that.

Allthenamesarereserved:
Good for you, hope you will have a good time when you're here, I do suggest taking a tour of the entire island, from the Giants Causway, to Burren, to the Cliffs in the West, the green fields of Ireland, and the cities of Dublin, Cork, Belfast and Galway (And more, of course).

well dont forget to pack for rain,no matter what time of year you come.

Yeah, I love rain though, so that's no problem :)

Allthenamesarereserved:
Good for you, hope you will have a good time when you're here, I do suggest taking a tour of the entire island, from the Giants Causway, to Burren, to the Cliffs in the West, the green fields of Ireland, and the cities of Dublin, Cork, Belfast and Galway (And more, of course).

I will. Thanks!

You're hearing this from an Irish lad himself. With the lads you can have the best craic, and the girls are all sound and seriously fine, well most of them anyway.....

Calas

Patriotism aside - are Irish girls significantly better looking than girls from other countries? And in what sense- I was trying to puzzle this one out with a friend of mine earlier and we couldn't come up with anything. I mean by conventional standards you can say that the blonde tanned Swedes are better looking , but what trait makes Irish girls stand out? Physically I mean - I think Irish girls' personalities are their best points and they're miles ahead of other countries on it, but as regards looks, we've the same mix of good/bad/fugly as France, Germany and Canada...don't we?

Patriotism aside - are Irish girls significantly better looking than girls from other countries? And in what sense- I was trying to puzzle this one out with a friend of mine earlier and we couldn't come up with anything. I mean by conventional standards you can say that the blonde tanned Swedes are better looking , but what trait makes Irish girls stand out? Physically I mean - I think Irish girls' personalities are their best points and they're miles ahead of other countries on it, but as regards looks, we've the same mix of good/bad/fugly as France, Germany and Canada...don't we?


all patriotism aside there are some out-of-this world,minblowing gorgeous girls in ireland.like any country.and the opposite,girls with all the sex appeal of mouldy bread.just like any country.most of the girls are in between,like any country.

i'm swedish living in dublin, ireland 13 years. i've decided to move back to sweden in may as ireland has become far too expensive and the divide between poor and rich is getting bigger. the weather is crap(no seasons, no sunshine)and apart from going to the pub there isn't an awful lot to do. but - the irish are a great people, there's a nice/erlaxed ambiance here and the countryside is beautiful. i've seen ireland change so much during the 'celtic tiger' - ireland has become a multi cultural society, which is great, but irish society has also become colder - it's 'sink or swim'.....anyways, that's just my opinion....charlotte, dublin

..and swedish women are obviously far better looking than the pasty, gingerhaired and badly dressed irish gals! hi hi :p :D

The standard of the chicks here is unsurpassed.

The women aint half bad either.

Yes, of course, the laws of economics. Wages go up, so do prices. But take away the Groceries Order, allow competition from cheap shops such as Lidl, and you get a reduction of more than 20%.

We also have more invisable taxes, not sure how many times I've said that now, but you've failed to comment on that.

that's because I don't really know enough about all the stealth taxes to debate it, I agree with some of them that make sence (bin tax) but I think there's a bit of double taxation involved in others but as said I really don't know enough about them to properly comment, I could find out, but I'm lazy. :D

((by the way my point of view on taxes in General is if it used properly getting us world class education and health services I'm all for it, but that's off topic... even further off topic then the debate we're having now :D ))

all patriotism aside there are some out-of-this world,minblowing gorgeous girls in ireland.like any country.and the opposite,girls with all the sex appeal of mouldy bread.just like any country.most of the girls are in between,like any country.

That's true, there's a mix in all countries, but personality is one of the most important things anyway, so Ireland has definitely got a lead on most of the world in that respect, apparently.

The standard of the chicks here is unsurpassed.

The women aint half bad either.
Lol. Touche, my good man :)

i'm swedish living in dublin, ireland 13 years. i've decided to move back to sweden in may as ireland has become far too expensive and the divide between poor and rich is getting bigger. the weather is crap(no seasons, no sunshine)and apart from going to the pub there isn't an awful lot to do. but - the irish are a great people, there's a nice/erlaxed ambiance here and the countryside is beautiful. i've seen ireland change so much during the 'celtic tiger' - ireland has become a multi cultural society, which is great, but irish society has also become colder - it's 'sink or swim'.....anyways, that's just my opinion....charlotte, dublin
It's hot and sunny right now!

You just aren't paying attention to the weather properly during the summer it's warm and raining, autumn windy cooler and rainy, Winter dark stormy(with lots of rain) and cold and spring is cool with lighter rain! :D

That's true, there's a mix in all countries, but personality is one of the most important things anyway, so Ireland has definitely got a lead on most of the world in that respect, apparently.


indeed we do.well at least evreyone says we do,i havent gotten to know very many foriegn people so i have no frame of reference

indeed we do.well at least evreyone says we do,i havent gotten to know very many foriegn people so i have no frame of reference

You might be in for a bit of an unpleasant surprise if you ever go anywhere else! :D

The only good thing about Ireland is this:

Its Rugby.

...and its women.
....and its alcohol. (mmm Irish Car-Bomb)
.....and its scenery.
......and the fact that half my family is Irish
.......must move to Ireland.

The only good thing about Ireland is this:

Its Rugby.

If you were truly Irish you'd be supporting hurling, none of this landed gentry british tripe!

;)

....and its alcohol. (mmm Irish Car-Bomb)

In Ireland a car bomb is something rather different.

If you were truly Irish you'd be supporting hurling, none of this landed gentry british tripe!

;)

Do you play hurling on ice, or is it more similar to field hockey?

Do you play hurling on ice, or is it more similar to field hockey?

Wow..... must resist urge to giggle at the thought of hurlers on ice? It could be a new Disney enterprise!

No they play in a field

It looks like this

http://www.tipp.ie/sportsandevents/tipptackle.jpg

or this
http://kilkenny.gaa.ie/vtip_2001/2.jpg

the team with the most wins from previous games wears the "ceremonial" blue and yellow colours. Generally they win and the irish term for this type of team can be roughly translated into "tipperary"
hence the song "it's a long way to tipperary" showing the uphill battle it is to attain this level of excellence

Wow..... must resist urge to giggle at the thought of hurlers on ice? It could be a new Disney enterprise!

No they play in a field

It looks like this

http://www.tipp.ie/sportsandevents/tipptackle.jpg

or this
http://kilkenny.gaa.ie/vtip_2001/2.jpg

the team with the most wins from previous games wears the "ceremonial" blue and yellow colours. Generally they win and the irish term for this type of team can be roughly translated into "tipperary"
hence the song "it's a long way to tipperary" showing the uphill battle it is to attain this level of excellence

Ah. I c. The dictionary definition I read said it was roughly similar to hockey, so I assumed it was played on ice.

Wow..... must resist urge to giggle at the thought of hurlers on ice? It could be a new Disney enterprise!

No they play in a field

It looks like this

http://www.tipp.ie/sportsandevents/tipptackle.jpg

or this
http://kilkenny.gaa.ie/vtip_2001/2.jpg

the team with the most wins from previous games wears the "ceremonial" blue and yellow colours. Generally they win and the irish term for this type of team can be roughly translated into "tipperary"
hence the song "it's a long way to tipperary" showing the uphill battle it is to attain this level of excellence
I wonder which county you support!? :D

Hmm dunno about the irish girls being ice maidens - are you sure that's not just you? - a recent report I read said that 70% of single women between the ages of 18-30 in Dublin are promiscuous! I say Fair Fecks Girls!

The typical Irish man that the girls go crazy about isn't the red-head, but the black hair pale skin blue eyed guy - think Gabriel Byrne

Is there an Irish "type" for girls? Don't think so, although the "bottle blonde, straightened hair, fake tans and river island clothes brigade" tend to make a large percentage.

But two other points to add - yeah Dublin especially is a complete rip off - but the architecture is pretty nice! I mean why is everyone so het up about neo-classical styles like you'd find in the promenades of Paris or Madrid - Dublin has some amazing Georgian squares and townhouses. Even Cork has a bit of charm with it winding roads (only a bit though, Cork in general is an overgrown village that's great for the familiarity buzz for the first few months but tends to get claustrophobic after a little while - with everyone knowing your business etc. Galway while smaller has less of this cause it's so relaxed. Dublin doesn't have this but on the opposite end it has the thick skinned city mentality and anonymity which can descend into plain rudeness, but can be a welcome relief if you're sick of constantly bumping into people you could care less about in places like Cork.

Oh and also N. Ireland would be a ridiculous economic burden for Ireland to shoulder, I know that it did get some investment since the good friday agreement, but in general the British government have just been throwing good money after bad - and I say let that be their punishment for screwing Ireland over, I certainly don't want to shoulder the financial burden and I also don't want to be in any way associated with a place that provided the breeding... no... spawning grounds of someone so hateful as Ian Paisley. Ireland is still relatively fundie-free and if it came to a vote I'd vote against N. Ireland joining Ireland for just that reason.


nope, most people I know agree with me that they are ice maidens or generally dumb (and not that hot either). Ive been to paris and dublin is a potato compared to it. Just dirty and ugly with squat buildings, not much going on. That could sum up the whole country if you ask me.

If you were truly Irish you'd be supporting hurling, none of this landed gentry british tripe!

;)

Well, that would explain the fact that I'm Canadian. My grandparents Irish, the other Grandparents English. ;)


...no welsh though :D