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Let's make three assumptions here that could very well be true.

1. World War Three is coming within the next 50 years.
2. The U.S. will be involved somehow, someway in World War Three.
3. Nuclear attacks will be threatened, and may or may not be used in World War Three.

So, assuming the three statements above are true and will happen within the next 50 years (I chose 50 years because chances are, I'll still be alive by 2050)...

...and apologies to everyone else, because I address this to residents of the U.S. mostly...

...How safe are we Americans in the event of World War Three?

Obviously, during WW3 and when nuclear attacks are threatened or carried out, it would not be smart to be living or around our largest and most important cities (Washington D.C., New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Seattle, Atlanta, Boston, etc.). But for those of us who are not living close enough to be directly affected by a nuclear attack on any of these cities, how safe are we?

Obviously, considering we are alive and well and our families are with us at all times and we are given proper food, water, and shelter...it matters not if we are under U.S. control, Chinese control, British control, or even Mexican control.

However, in the event of any invasion by any enemy force, what is the best way to head to? Inland toward Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska, Montana? Or (in my relative case, since I'm in Southern California), down south to Mexico? Or for you Northeastern Americans, up north to Canada, provided the countries are neutral or arent under the threat of the main invasion.

Just a thought for the future. *has a funny thought about Chinese soldiers trying to invade Baja California and trying to speak Spanish to the natives* :D

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Colodia, I refer you to the quote of me in your signature.

Anyways, I'd like to think I'm relatively, considering I'm in Austin, TX. Not much of a strategic value here. Well, we do have Camp Mabry, and I've figured out a nuke wouldn't dose me with fatal radiation where I'm at (I think), at least not immediately. Yes, I'm paranoid.

However, if it was a large scale nuclear attack, a large number of people would be screwed. However, such an attack would render an invasion moot, since you want to invade, and be able to use the land you conquer...radiation kinda screws that plan up a tiny bit. Best idea would be to use large scale chemical/biological attacks to wipe out populations, let the area decontaminate and then move in.

Really, we're a bit screwed if they start throwing around WMDs, but if it's just a ground/air assault (and some naval, I suppose), we'd have a far better chance of faring through.

As to where we'd head...Eh..Either you wanna be inside a deep bunker, or in the middle of nowhere. Once the heavy fighting starts, you want protection, or to be far from it.

Drache, it was either this or "How much porn is too much porn? A story." :D

Chances are if you're getting nuked, everyone in the game has lost, including those that pressed the big red button. There'll be no land invasion for the simple fact that there'd be no-one to perform the invasion. Now, if there were already troops on American soil, and WMDs were used, that's a different story. Imagine China invaded with a massively advanced army (with huge numbers - I don't believe this is a possible scenario, but let's imagine it is). They have more troops on the attack than you can muster in defence. Perhaps the attack was unexpected, or most of your troops are overseas fighting on a second front. Regardless, they've taken a lot of western states, and are slowly moving inland. I'd say at this point America would be the first to launch a nuke, because you Americans hate to lose, even if it means everyone else does too. China would naturally retaliate, and perhaps a few other exchanges would happen elsewhere in the world (considering it's WWIII, afterall).

The result: China's production lines collapse as its major cities are taken out. Same with America, and anyone else caught in the crossfire. The war ends. Everyone loses. You want to keep your family safe? Get to the highest altitude possible, the radiation should be thinner there. Hope that Europe wasn't too badly affected.

Drache, it was either this or "How much porn is too much porn? A story." :D

..but that would be more like you. This is just scaring me. And why not put up both? :p

What're your thoughts on our survivability, eh?

Regardless, they've taken a lot of western states, and are slowly moving inland. I'd say at this point America would be the first to launch a nuke, because you Americans hate to lose, even if it means everyone else does too.
Disregard that almost half the nation is under Chinese occupation. :rolleyes: :D

What're your thoughts on our survivability, eh?
I guess it comes down to how well your armed and how far away your from a major city.

I don't think Anaheim would be a very strategic target for a nuclear attack. So I'm safe, I'm just over the hills from Anaheim.

...How safe are we Americans in the event of World War Three?
Safer than anybody else.
However, in the event of any invasion by any enemy force, what is the best way to head to?
Flee? You think we would flee? Heck, in fifty years, I’ll be in my sixties, but if I’m in the same shape then, that my grandfather is now, I’d go fight em. Maybe the women, children, elderly and metrosexuals would head for the hills, but I, along with many of my fellow Texans, would give our lives to protect this country in the event of an invasion. If China stepped one foot onto US soil, they would have to contend with literally millions of rednecks, many armed far better than the average Chinese soldier, not willing to give an inch. Restrictions on firearms are becoming far looser in the US. This bolds well for us, I think.

Now just imagine all the gangs. They fight over minor territorial disputes all the time. You don’t think they are going to fight against some Chinese encroaching on their hood? People say Iraqi cities make for tuff urban warfare, they should try to take a US city.

Not to mention our extremely large stockpile of privately owned weapons that could easily be distributed for the common defense.

In short, runnins for yellow bellies and chicken shits.

I guess it comes down to how well your armed and how far away your from a major city.

I don't think Anaheim would be a very strategic target for a nuclear attack. So I'm safe, I'm just over the hills from Anaheim.

Eh..See, I'm a bit screwed. Texas is a massive state (from where I am, it takes 8-12 hours to get out of the state, depending on which way you go), has a large enough military that it could feasibly take on small nations (Seriously, we have a huge number of military bases here, and logistics), so it'd be a good place to hit if you take out the bases.

Yeah, being well armed would help, but that only works till your ammo runs out. Then you have to learn other survival skills. Which makes me indispensable. Hehe.

In the event of World War Three, I would hope that I am far enough away from Detroit City to be unaffected by the radiation. All those damn auto plants have the ability to make tanks or other military vehicles, so who wouldn't take it out? My best bet, if the Chinese were rolling down the street, would be to drive across the street and steal a boat. Then I'd just go across the Detroit River and be safe in Canada (assuming they're neutral and they're probably not).
I'd hate to give up my house though. I might have to go terrorist on their asses and lead an underground freedom movement. Canada would be easier though and not too much colder.

Safer than anybody else.

Flee? You think we would flee? Heck, in fifty years, I’ll be in my sixties, but if I’m in the same shape then, that my grandfather is now, I’d go fight em. Maybe the women, children, elderly and metrosexuals would head for the hills, but I, along with many of my fellow Texans, would give our lives to protect this country in the event of an invasion. If China stepped one foot onto US soil, they would have to contend with literally millions of rednecks, many armed far better than the average Chinese soldier, not willing to give an inch. Restrictions on firearms are becoming far looser in the US. The bolds well for us, I think.

Now just imagine all the gangs. They fight over minor territorial disputes all the time. You don’t think they are going to fight against some Chinese encroaching on their hood? People say Iraqi cities make for tuff urban warfare, they should try to take a US city.

Not to mention our extremely large stockpile of privately owned weapons that could easily be distributed for the common defense.

In short, runnins for yellow bellies and chicken shits.

Good point, good point. Although I'm 15 now....that would just make it easier for me to fight...

Good point, good point. Although I'm 15 now....that would just make it easier for me to fight...
You’ll be in your sixties in 2050 as well.

I understand staying and fighting, but if it's a lost cause, you should definitely pull out so everyone can regroup, tend to the wounded, strategize (to the extent most civvies are able to), and then strike when opportunity presents itself. And in a World War 3 scenario, civilains fighting would only last so long before the armoured vehicles are brought to bare...

I understand staying and fighting, but if it's a lost cause, you should definitely pull out so everyone can regroup, tend to the wounded, strategize (to the extent most civvies are able to), and then strike when opportunity presents itself. And in a World War 3 scenario, civilains fighting would only last so long before the armoured vehicles are brought to bare...
The whole armored vehicle thing can be worked around so long as you attack supply lines. Gasoline trucks and the like. A tank is useless if it can't move or ran out of ammunition.

Safer than anybody else.

Flee? You think we would flee? Heck, in fifty years, I’ll be in my sixties, but if I’m in the same shape then, that my grandfather is now, I’d go fight em. Maybe the women, children, elderly and metrosexuals would head for the hills, but I, along with many of my fellow Texans, would give our lives to protect this country in the event of an invasion. If China stepped one foot onto US soil, they would have to contend with literally millions of rednecks, many armed far better than the average Chinese soldier, not willing to give an inch. Restrictions on firearms are becoming far looser in the US. This bolds well for us, I think.

Now just imagine all the gangs. They fight over minor territorial disputes all the time. You don’t think they are going to fight against some Chinese encroaching on their hood? People say Iraqi cities make for tuff urban warfare, they should try to take a US city.

Not to mention our extremely large stockpile of privately owned weapons that could easily be distributed for the common defense.

In short, runnins for yellow bellies and chicken shits.


Hmm, I forgot about the time gap. I'll almost be 70! Hell, the Chinese aren't taking my house then. All of my knick-nacks, video games and porn will be in there! I think I'm with you. I'll just get a shotgun shoot at them from the picture window. 70's too old to be starting fresh.

The whole armored vehicle thing can be worked around so long as you attack supply lines. Gasoline trucks and the like. A tank is useless if it can't move or ran out of ammunition.

True, but I'd think those would be well guarded, and thus difficult for any civilain raids to be successfully carried out against.

True, but I'd think those would be well guarded, and thus difficult for any civilain raids to be successfully carried out against.
Yeah but we're fucking insane, remember? ;)

I've thought about this. Since New York is pretty far away, no real problems, and since I am inbetween Boston and New York and the wind is east to west, nuclear attacks won't be much of a threat.

I live near the sub base here in CT, though that MAY get closed down and still, its nothing near wanting to be nuked. Infact I doubt that any nation would use a nuclear weapon to start a war. With the systems now-a-days the entire world will attack a nation who starts a war with nuclear weapons. Europe is unified, Russia sides with the US. China in all its glory is a major power and though relations are a little heated at times they know the dangers out nuclear weapons. North Korea....umm danger x10 there for Japan. Unstable and dangerous. China, Japan and the US would fight Korea if they used nuclear weapons.

More of a threat actually comes from terrorist into Russian silos! Believe it or not this is possible for major cities to be attacked by 'dirty bombs'. Far less likely then a nuclear explosion with some bad results. Though this is a double-edged weapon. The entire world will NOT stand by and let this happen again. If it happened once chances are the US, China and Russia would join together and eliminate the threat. (C&C Generals had this storyline) Making an attack on America or China would be devastating for the groups that do this.

Warfare is evolving beyond WMDs and all the other drastic weapons used before. Tanks and other equipment can be shielded from radiation and practically immune to blasts past a certian distance. Lasers can destroy the nukes or patriot missile defenses can also. Even scud missiles are destroyed by Patriot systems. Resistance to radiation and biological weapons are enhanced and better then ever. Damage to the enviroment is long-term and has major political damages, the US still is haunted by the use of two SMALL nuclear weapons today! (by comparison that is)

Based on all this info it seems unlikely that a nuclear war will exist in the far future, it will be a technological war with precise strikes.

Oh ya...China shuts down supply lines and destroys the enemy, given their advanced military it seems unlikely that China would use nuclear strikes. Nukes are more of a deterrent then weapon. Eventually like all deterrents, their will be a better one, namely space-based weapons. Infact the lessons learned from the second world war seem to prevent a third really. The first world war ended with mistakes and many problems. The second was destructive and ended lighter, ending alot of the hate. Infact Germany and Japan are some of our close allies! The middle east and terrorists are the real threat to date, with north korea also. The korean conflict ended poorly and some how needs to be fixed soon.

Yeah but we're fucking insane, remember? ;)
YEEEEEEHHHAAWWWWW!!!!!

I can see it now.

An improvised militia HQ in Southern California
Army Officer Speaking Briefing A Militia: 20% of the fuel that goes into Chinese controlled San Francisco passes through this tunnel. They have guard posts on both sides outfitted with heavy machine guns so it will be extremely difficult to destroy.
Some Random Hick From Texas: But we get to use all these ‘nades right?
Officer: Yes
Hick: Get er done!

Meanwhile at an abandoned apartment in Frisco:
Captured Chinese General: I tell you nothing!
Ex-Pimp: Yall killed my hoes, bitch. Pistol whips prisoner. This dawg is Bill. He used ta work out at a “gym” yall blew ta shit. I think ya need a little alone time wit him.
Chinese General: Whatever NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! is in Chinese.

WOLVERINES!!!!





What? Somebody was going to do that....

YEEEEEEHHHAAWWWWW!!!!!

I can see it now.

An improvised militia HQ in Southern California
Army Officer Speaking Briefing A Militia: 20% of the fuel that goes into Chinese controlled San Francisco passes through this tunnel. They have guard posts on both sides outfitted with heavy machine guns so it will be extremely difficult to destroy.
Some Random Hick From Texas: But we get to use all these ‘nades right?
Officer: Yes
Hick: Get er done!

Meanwhile at an abandoned apartment in Frisco:
Captured Chinese General: I tell you nothing!
Ex-Pimp: Yall killed my hoes, bitch. Pistol whips prisoner. This dawg is Bill. He used ta work out at a “gym” yall blew ta shit. I think ya need a little alone time wit him.
Chinese General: Whatever NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! is in Chinese.

Undelia? I currently love you for this post. lmfao.
Yeah but we're fucking insane, remember? ;)

lol! Very good point. I'd lead a fine army in that case.

And yes, Name, I suppose someone had to. :p

YEEEEEEHHHAAWWWWW!!!!!

I can see it now.

An improvised militia HQ in Southern California
Army Officer Speaking Briefing A Militia: 20% of the fuel that goes into Chinese controlled San Francisco passes through this tunnel. They have guard posts on both sides outfitted with heavy machine guns so it will be extremely difficult to destroy.
Some Random Hick From Texas: But we get to use all these ‘nades right?
Officer: Yes
Hick: Get er done!

Meanwhile at an abandoned apartment in Frisco:
Captured Chinese General: I tell you nothing!
Ex-Pimp: Yall killed my hoes, bitch. Pistol whips prisoner. This dawg is Bill. He used ta work out at a “gym” yall blew ta shit. I think ya need a little alone time wit him.
Chinese General: Whatever NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! is in Chinese.

I am pretty sure it still would be close to NOOOOOOO! lmao! Though the American people are the most violent pieces of shit to deal with. If the chinese forces think the military is bad just wait till they get to the cities. New York itself is hell, the major parts of the state WON'T stand for it.

Our rep. for solving all problems with guns is a constant symbol of america. The Japanese think ALL American's point guns at each other with conflicts. Not that we don't all seem to possess the weapons of a third-world military, we just tend to use our guns less then believed. Oh...I forgot about the South. They use their guns and are extremely patriotic and conservative. Chances are the chinese military would have a hell of a time trying to get the 'hicks' and 'rednecks' to even understand THEIR english. California to, Spanish doesn't sound that close to English for them to get it easily. Again the south....accent hell for the chinese military.

Example:

"What ya'll been doin' in this're part eh me town? Git! Offa me farm! PA! Come oot ana talka to dis Chin'ses fellers!"

The guard looks at the the translator and asks in chinese for a translation:

"Uh.....uh.....I think he asked if we are from town.....and are farmers. Though I don't get half of what he is saying! It's like another language!"

Drunken hick: "Military men? OFFA MEH FARM! Or elsea ya'll can eat meh twelvey! Three....twooo....one!" *pulls out shotgun and like five different guns go off and blast the unsuspecting forces*
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Beware the patriotic south!

Colodia, I refer you to the quote of me in your signature.

Anyways, I'd like to think I'm relatively, considering I'm in Austin, TX. Not much of a strategic value here. Well, we do have Camp Mabry, and I've figured out a nuke wouldn't dose me with fatal radiation where I'm at (I think), at least not immediately. Yes, I'm paranoid.
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sweet, another Austinite. I'm pretty sure Mabry is on nobodies 'to nuke list' since the break up of the soviet union. they were the only ones with enough nukes to start targetting third and fourth tier reserve assets (not sure exactly what Mabrys classification is but its rather low) so the closest target would probably be all the way in Houston (as a magor port facility) or Dallas/FortWorth (as a major population center) and its safe too assume that ATX would survive a strike against either of those.

That being said I feel pretty safe, now, major population centers are another thing entirely but barring some pearl harbor style defeat of Americas navies in both seas there should be aegis ships in all major population reachable by a spruance or ticonderoga class ship and I'm confident in their ability to defeat ballistic threats. so that pretty much leaves middle America which has few notable targets. I'd say that a ballistic nuclear attack on America would be a futile gesture.

On the other hand we have a pair of wide open borders and on of those is not known for the honesty and incorruptiblty of its government. Nuclear weapons being smuggled in through california and new mexico could be a serious threat. some cities like Washington and New york have daily random geiger sweeps to detect hidden nuclear weapons but many major ports and population centers don't and there's alway a chance that a nuclear weapon could come in after one geiger sweep and detonate before the next. So while a conventional nuclear strike is almost certainly doomed to failure, an unconventional one poses a serious threat of a magnitude which you should buy multiple geiger counters right now and instal it in your car, do your country a favor by performing your own sweep on your daily commute (Not really, it would be harder than I make it seem but if you still want to perform that service more power to you)

YEEEEEEHHHAAWWWWW!!!!!

I can see it now.

An improvised militia HQ in Southern California
Army Officer Speaking Briefing A Militia: 20% of the fuel that goes into Chinese controlled San Francisco passes through this tunnel. They have guard posts on both sides outfitted with heavy machine guns so it will be extremely difficult to destroy.
Some Random Hick From Texas: But we get to use all these ‘nades right?
Officer: Yes
Hick: Get er done!

Meanwhile at an abandoned apartment in Frisco:
Captured Chinese General: I tell you nothing!
Ex-Pimp: Yall killed my hoes, bitch. Pistol whips prisoner. This dawg is Bill. He used ta work out at a “gym” yall blew ta shit. I think ya need a little alone time wit him.
Chinese General: Whatever NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! is in Chinese.
I was thinking 100 Americans rushing a Chinese supply line running down a hill, carrying more American flags than guns. :D

lol, Mondoth, I feel safer now. Did you know Mabry used to have antiaircraft missles..equipped with nukes? The idea was to be able to take out a whole bunch of Russian bombers at once. *sighs*

I was thinking 100 Americans rushing a Chinese supply line running down a hill, carrying more American flags than guns. :D
You ever been to Texas?
Some guys I know have upwards of ten guns, all extremely high quality, and these dudes are still in high school. :eek: :D

Dang,

I went through Red Cross training back in 1982 that showed how the US could survive nuke attack. What a lot of people don't realize is this. The majority of the "enemy's" nukes are not pointed an major cities, but at the silos where our nukes are. So, if you live in the middle of the Colorado, Nebraska, Dakota's and Wyoming prairie areas, Good Bye. The states to the east get the lovely fallout.


RE invasion. All the anti personal handgun and rifle crowd would be wondering just how many "crazy" gun totin NRA members there are in the neighborhood. I know of at least five people that could probably give a battalion a run for their money, here in the Kansas City area alone. One of them is in the cubicle next to me as I type. I personally don't own any weapons because my wife doesn't like them in the house with the kids, but I would if I could. Just imagine an invading army hitting any rural area in the midwest to west region or in Tennessee. They would have a tough time with "insurgents" I think.

People also have to remember that most popular American vehicles are the size of tanks, so just slap a gatling gun in the back of a Ford F-350 and you're good to go play insurgent.

People also have to remember that most popular American vehicles are the size of tanks, so just slap a gatling gun in the back of a Ford F-350 and you're good to go play insurgent.
:D

You make a visually hilarious image for my head.

Hummers, the vehicle that SO fucking owned China....and you hippies wanted to get rid of them!

People also have to remember that most popular American vehicles are the size of tanks, so just slap a gatling gun in the back of a Ford F-350 and you're good to go play insurgent.
I forgot about those.

The midst of a Chinese infantry division outside of Phoenix

Chinese Captain: in chinese Where are the armored divisions?
Chinese Colonial: in chinese They’ve been diverted back to San Francisco. They’re needed to end the insurgency, apparently. This city is lightly defended.
Captain: But what of the Texans? I heard they fight as if possessed by a thousand demons.
Colonial: They are none near here. Just week Arizonians.
Captian: What’s that noise?
Colonial: Sounds like… motors.

Seconds later thousands of SUVs and pickups emerge from the city.

Captain: I thought it was lightly defended?
Colonial: We forgot about their suddenly practical penchant for size over style.
Captain: What do we do?
Colonial: RUUUUUUUUUN!!

I forgot about those.

The midst of a Chinese infantry division outside of Phoenix

Chinese Captain: in chinese Where are the armored divisions?
Chinese Colonial: in chinese They’ve been diverted back to San Francisco. They’re needed to end the insurgency, apparently. This city is lightly defended.
Captain: But what of the Texans? I heard they fight as if possessed by a thousand demons.
Colonial: They are none near here. Just week Arizonians.
Captian: What’s that noise?
Colonial: Sounds like… motors.

Seconds later thousands SUVs and pickups emerge from the city.

Captain: I thought it was lightly defended?
Colonial: We forgot about their suddenly practical penchant for size over style.
Captain: What do we do?
Colonial: RUUUUUUUUUN!!
:D

I fucking heart you man.

:D

You make a visually hilarious image for my head.

Hummers, the vehicle that SO fucking owned China....and you hippies wanted to get rid of them!

HAHAHAHA! I laughed so hard about that to.

Funny thing is my nation, Kjata Major, plays in II as a nation with more urban combat vehicles then a military ever could get.

Now the chinese tanks may have point defense lasers, but that does shit on bullets and crazy insurgents who will HOP in and go to town on the rest of the forces.

Ford trucks can be slapped together with armor plating and some guns and used as small tanks. They are also fast and can climb basically everything a Chinese tank can't get up.

What's even funnier is that Americans play violent games and a LOT of teenagers would put their skills to the test in real life. All the years of Doom, CS and other first person shooters would make for some REALLY deadly civilians. Halo 2 functions really well to at this. Civilians practically PAY to get practice for killing. Even the military had a free game that was made. Americans are also loud and proud, when they are carrying weapons, they won't miss with years of experience backing them.

Better yet are cities. Since the chinese forces won't level an entire city, snipers and other rogue forces will wreck hell on the Chinese forces. From all sides and out matched they will never stand a chance playing OUR office buildings and OUR abandoned sites. Americans can safely have a few military guards or out of service men that WILL do this. Any area by a weapons producer will probably turn out free weapons and ammo to the civilians and really give China a run for their money.

Simple thing, we have people for war and against war. Pacifist countries don't last long. The warmongering crazys of America WILL fight back like lions and strike with vehicles and low-tech tactics. Seeing as how things are in Iraq, I'd like to see it in America, when our streets and people carry more weapons then an entire town. Some of NRA members probably hold more weapons in their basements and houses then an entire city out in the middle east.

Yeee-haw lmao!

Seriously. The stereotype turned us from war-mongering lunatics to fat-asses.

It's damn time we show the world that the fat asses can drive like war-mongering lunatics while the rest of us rush them like made Zergs!

Seriously. The stereotype turned us from war-mongering lunatics to fat-asses.

It's damn time we show the world that the fat asses can drive like war-mongering lunatics while the rest of us rush them like made Zergs!
I wanna be a Hydralisk! :D

I wanna be a Hydralisk! :D

Meh, I'd go all Protoss on them (unless you really wanna do the cheap Zerg rush thing), but once the Terrans get their siege tanks, I mean the Chinese get their armour set up, you could be screwed.

Kinda funny:

You know, McDonalds would probably put something like steroids in there food, more at least. :) McDonalds might issue guns and ammo for their 'happy meal' for adults, the 'Patriot Meal'. This would mean you would have a bunch of he-men with guns. Runaway!

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Beware the fat-asses of America though. If china attacked I bet the government would PAY hackers and all the hackers together would make a BIG mess of the chinese supply lines and communications. American hackers are skilled and powerful, but follow a moral code and rarely do anything. If the government paid them to fuck up the enemy, they would ENJOY it. Hack into the chinese communications, make fake messages and transmit them everywhere, have a bunch of things go haywire. Trust me about the hackers, they exist and with government help even some of the pathetic ones with government programs and backing could shut-down the Chinese movements by messing up their systems.

In the last decade we haven't had a real chance to try this as the Gulf War and Gulf War II was against a weak nation (not really that weak) and we used our superior technology to wipe them out. Imagine what a turbo-nerds would do if they got into the chinese government servers and communication lines? Ca-ching! Steal their money and secrets and mess up everything so much that they are forced to take action against the randomly placed hackers in America.

Meh, I'd go all Protoss on them (unless you really wanna do the cheap Zerg rush thing), but once the Terrans get their siege tanks, I mean the Chinese get their armour set up, you could be screwed.
Well, that’s where you Zealots come in, isn’t it? :D

Kinda funny:

You know, McDonalds would probably put something like steroids in there food, more at least. :) McDonalds might issue guns and ammo for their 'happy meal' for adults, the 'Patriot Meal'. This would mean you would have a bunch of he-men with guns. Runaway!

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Beware the fat-asses of America though. If china attacked I bet the government would PAY hackers and all the hackers together would make a BIG mess of the chinese supply lines and communications. American hackers are skilled and powerful, but follow a moral code and rarely do anything. If the government paid them to fuck up the enemy, they would ENJOY it. Hack into the chinese communications, make fake messages and transmit them everywhere, have a bunch of things go haywire. Trust me about the hackers, they exist and with government help even some of the pathetic ones with government programs and backing could shut-down the Chinese movements by messing up their systems.

In the last decade we haven't had a real chance to try this as the Gulf War and Gulf War II was against a weak nation (not really that weak) and we used our superior technology to wipe them out. Imagine what a turbo-nerds would do if they got into the chinese government servers and communication lines? Ca-ching! Steal their money and secrets and mess up everything so much that they are forced to take action against the randomly placed hackers in America.
Where you aware that both the Chinese and American governments already fund hackers?
Most of it is squandered on security and trying to catch pedophiles looking at kidy porn, but they could easily be reassigned.

Well, that’s where you Zealots come in, isn’t it? :D

I'd be the Dark Templar variety, bein' Pagan here. Adun Toradas!/end nerd hijack

most likely, nuclear weapons would, in fact, be used, mainly by us. this would result in the destruction of mankind, as we have so many nukes that not only could we blow up a good portion of the world, but using those nukes would result in the spread of radiation all over the world that would kill any human. The only hope for human kind would be to go undergound - going inland or up to canada/down to mexico wouldn't help.

Assuming a Chinese invasion from the west coast, I would think the biggest problem for them would be crossing the Rockies.

Imagine a Chinese armored column, slowly winding it's way along some precaious mountain road. Without warning, some redneck crazy with a sniper rifle and a bottle of whiskey takes a big slug, and then fires at the stack of gasoline cans he had piled up near the top of the mountain.

A large avalanche proceeds to bury the Chinese column, meanwhile the redneck turns around to keep an eye on the other road he has "booby-
trapped"

In the words of Peter Griffin...freakin sweet. :)

I refer you all to the term "Mutually Assured Destruction".

Nukes fly......everyone loses.

Its policy.