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After seeing at least 10 posts about whether people believe in Christianity or not within a week, I've gotten really tired of the whole thing.

I'd like to suggest we stop posting silly religious threads trying to figure out why people do/don't believe in Christianity or threads trying to evangelize people. It's tiring, arduous, distasteful, and it never solves anything.

People with religious insecurities should talk about them to their friends and others, not to the public, which they don't even know and will probably try to evangelize them or appeal to them in some other unwise way. Blech.

As long as people show interest and respond, religion threads will keep appearing.

After seeing at least 10 posts about whether people believe in Christianity or not within a week, I've gotten really tired of the whole thing.

I'd like to suggest we stop posting silly religious threads trying to figure out why people do/don't believe in Christianity or threads trying to evangelize people. It's tiring, arduous, distasteful, and it never solves anything.

People with religious insecurities should talk about them to their friends and others, not to the public, which they don't even know and will probably try to evangelize them or appeal to them in some other unwise way. Blech.


Excuse you...

I posted something like this a while ago. Got pretty much the same reaction too...

How about a debate about homosexuality? Uhh nevermind, same thing. :)

Well, when were talking about 'religous' threads, I would assume you'd mean Christain threads. To this, the response is that Christainity is based on some docterine, but centrally, that faith is necessacary, and that if you don't have this faith, you go to hell. Add good will into that, and telling a Christain that there are some fundemental logical flaws to the harder core of his or her beliefs become impossible. Worse yet, arguments must be logically made to accept Christianity, because if we arn't saved, were going to hell, hence all the prostyltizing or pride.... or something.

I'm kinda tired to say much of anything intelligent, but thats the biased way I see it. Not saying all Christains are like this, but certainly some are.

Religious insecurities? Spot on. In fact, if you think your religion is secure, I'd recommend you go have a damned good look at it. Religion is part of a growth process, not some stunted tree you chain up and hide away, and if you think your tree has stopped growing, you'll notice the difference if you just talk the restraints off that you placed on it in your search for "security" rather than Truth.

The threads will never stop, trust me. In fact, I'm undoubtably sure that this thread will turn into a religious debate before it dies.

People have the weirdest need to prove their beliefs at the cost of irritating others. It's sad but true. I'm not even sure people care that they're defending their beliefs anymore; they seem happier to attack the beliefs of others.

The best thing to do if you don't like these endless threads is to either ignore them, or start RPing on the other forums. I find them quite amusing, personally.

After seeing at least 10 posts about whether people believe in Christianity or not within a week, I've gotten really tired of the whole thing.

I'd like to suggest we stop posting silly religious threads trying to figure out why people do/don't believe in Christianity or threads trying to evangelize people. It's tiring, arduous, distasteful, and it never solves anything.

People with religious insecurities should talk about them to their friends and others, not to the public, which they don't even know and will probably try to evangelize them or appeal to them in some other unwise way. Blech.

How ironic that you should feel this way and yet start another thread about religion. :D

Anyway, have you ever seen another topic that sparks more debate than religion? If you have any ideas, then why not start a thread about something other than religion?

Religious insecurities? Spot on. In fact, if you think your religion is secure, I'd recommend you go have a damned good look at it. Religion is part of a growth process, not some stunted tree you chain up and hide away, and if you think your tree has stopped growing, you'll notice the difference if you just talk the restraints off that you placed on it in your search for "security" rather than Truth.
Not to debate on religion and thus turn this into exactly what the thread-starter complains of, but I simply have to conditionally disagree. I think it's less of a matter of one's religion being secure, and more about one being secure in their religion. Yes, I think that several posters on this board who come out with their verbal guns every time the issue is raised are probably a bit insecure about their religious standings. They argue so far to the contrary because they're AFRAID to be wrong. But some others, and I'd like to consider myself one, have studied world religions for some time and are usually the ones who feel less threatened by somebody posting a contrary opinion. As a matter of fact, I spend more time correcting fellow Christians on the doctrines of Christianity than I do telling atheists that they're wrong and they're going to hell. I have faith that there is a God; in a manner of speaking, they have faith that there isn't. It's no more my place to question their faith than it is theirs to question mine.

Let's all just keep our opinions to ourselves and take part in one big Paradise Club Forum.

I haven't said this in a long time, but I think this thread really deserves it:

It could be worse, you could be dead.

I haven't said this in a long time, but I think this thread really deserves it:

It could be worse, you could be dead.

With or without afterlife?

After seeing at least 10 posts about whether people believe in Christianity or not within a week, I've gotten really tired of the whole thing.

I'd like to suggest we stop posting silly religious threads trying to figure out why people do/don't believe in Christianity or threads trying to evangelize people. It's tiring, arduous, distasteful, and it never solves anything.

People with religious insecurities should talk about them to their friends and others, not to the public, which they don't even know and will probably try to evangelize them or appeal to them in some other unwise way. Blech.
So, you mean posts like yours which seek to denegrate the interests and opinions of others even so far as to presume what should or should not be said in public, or for that matter a private forum which this is technically.

If you do not like religious discourse dont click on the thread, the mods have enough to deal with. I do not think turning them into complete goose stepping thought police based on the idea that religious discussion(no matter how poor) makes people uncomfortable and therefore should be ended.

How about we allow the religious posters (meaning those both for and against) to keep posting and while we are at it we let you keep posting narrow minded rants calling for censorship of anything that you find "tiring, arduous, distasteful" mmmkay, great.

Simonist']I have faith that there is a God; in a manner of speaking, they have faith that there isn't. It's no more my place to question their faith than it is theirs to question mine.
It's not the security of the Christian Religion that I query. It's the degree to which people feel "Safe" with the religious doctrine to which they currently adhere and from there refuse to delve any deeper into matters of Faith. In that respect, I don't really care about the security of the Christian, Buddhist, Islamic or other faiths in the slightest. I do however care about Your security in your faith, because I don't think we should allow ourselves to stop looking simply because we think we have a comfortable answer.

Your faith could be in the great Green Arkylseizure and I wouldn't mind it if you accepted the possible fallousy in it, read around other ideas and continued to subject it to arguments and counterpoints. Religion Grows; it is not stagnant, and any attempt to keep it leashed down to a place where you feel comfortable with it is only going to be harmful to both you and your case.

With or without afterlife?See why it would be better if you weren't dead? You wouldn't have to deal with things like absolution and karma yet :p

See why it would be better if you weren't dead? You wouldn't have to deal with things like absolution and karma yet :p
Yeah, but with that lingering "yet", it's like an unknown absolute just over the horizon.....and I don't know about you, but I know people who can't take that kind of pressure.

Well, if there is an afterlife, then I guess we'll eventually know the answer!

And if not, then I guess it really doesn't matter from the individual standpoint.

Personally, on this topic, I hold with one of my two religion's views - religion is about a person's relationship with the divine. No one else can choose what is right or wrong for that person.

Sadly, the religious threads will never cease. Those of faith think they have an obligation to spread their beliefs and enlighten disbelievers, while atheists and others jump in like rabid wolves and tear the threads to shreds. As long as one group continues to contribute to the threads, the religious debate shall not end.

Sadly, the religious threads will never cease. Those of faith think they have an obligation to spread their beliefs and enlighten disbelievers, while atheists and others jump in like rabid wolves and tear the threads to shreds. As long as one group continues to contribute to the threads, the religious debate shall not end.
When they try to justify ruling our lives with thoes beliefs we have every right to question them

With or without afterlife?
There is no afterlife. :p

Sadly, the religious threads will never cease. Those of faith think they have an obligation to spread their beliefs and enlighten disbelievers, while atheists and others jump in like rabid wolves and tear the threads to shreds. As long as one group continues to contribute to the threads, the religious debate shall not end.
It goes beyond those wih faith thinking they have the obligation -- a lot of religions (prevalently, in this forum, various sects of Christianity) are based upon the whole obligation. These people are taught to do what they do, so of course they see no problem in it. It's all a matter of subjective reasoning as to how people take it, in my humble opinion.