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What are your views on *illigal* drugs (guess it depends on what country you are in as to legality!)?

Do you take drugs? If so what is the attraction and do you care that they are illigal?

If you don't take drugs is it because they are illigal or because they are dangerous? Or?

Have you taken drugs in the past? But not anymore?

Do you think that tobacco and alcohol are just as *bad* as so called illigal substances? And should also be illigal?

Do you think that the now illigal drugs should be legalised? If so how would it work? If legalised should substances be heavily regulated, or should people be allowed to do what they want in their own homes?

Do you think legalising drugs would just be a massive profit Initiative for the government/country leaders (and so forth) as they could tax any sale of substances. If this was the case do you think it would actually make any differences due to lower price in the black market?

Don't want to put words/views into your mind and typing fingers! lol! Just intrested to hear your views. Also anyone that lives in a country with part or full legalisation/tolerance (as if!) I'd be intrested to hear your views :)

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[looks up from his bong]

Huh?

Do you take drugs? If so what is the attraction and do you care that they are illigal?

I have and still do take some drugs. I find that they relieve stress and improve my mood. I do care that they are illegal, but not enough to stop taking them.

Do you think that tobacco and alcohol are just as *bad* as so called illigal substances? And should also be illigal?

I don't believe that any of the substances are bad.

Do you think that the now illigal drugs should be legalised? If so how would it work? If legalised should substances be heavily regulated, or should people be allowed to do what they want in their own homes?

I think that they should all be legalised for adults. I think they should be regulated, not on the consumption side, but on the production side.

Do you think legalising drugs would just be a massive profit Initiative for the government/country leaders (and so forth) as they could tax any sale of substances. If this was the case do you think it would actually make any differences due to lower price in the black market?

If the government did legalize drugs, the black market would no longer exist.

And although the government could tax drugs and make a great deal of money, I don't think that it should.

*takes a hit from Gymoor's bong*

I don't let that which the government decides is illegal determine my morality.

*goes off in search of snack cakes*

I believe that drugs should be legal under certain circumstances. I don't believe people should just be able to do drugs, but I do believe that for those who are addicted they should recieve small amounts to keep them from going through withdrawls without creating a huge need beyond what they already have.

However, if they do make drugs legal, the same age requirements as smoking should be instated I believe.

Drugs are bad, mmkay. its moderation thats the key - if you get this right then they're great! :D

i do take drugs, but only what i regard as 'soft' drugs - as in i would never touch the hardcore stuff like heroin. i do, however, smoke weed with impunity, drink (alcohol is a drug), take pills (mdma) and have taken shrooms, salvia and poppers (not that they count, lets be honest lol). i have my hang-ups about it but i'd probably give coke a try for kicks.
i basically won't do anything you can easily get physically addicted to.

i live in the UK so most of these are illegal (erm, actually... all of them :eek: ) but they're not exactly hard to get hold of - especially weed. this is one of the reasons i think the penalties for drugs use/possession should be greatly reduced and replaced with compulsory rehabilitation. supply should remain illegal as hell, of course. weed, being a special case (in that so many people still smoke it, absolutley regardless of its legality) should be legalised Amsterdam-style. well, similar: licenced shops like coffeeshops should sell it in a similar way to off-licences sell booze. this would remove the criminal element and the fact that weed is a gateway drug (which is due to the criminal element anyway)
other than that, small amounts of any (SOFT) drug found on you - if evidently for your personal use - should be ignored by the authorities. perhaps confiscation. hard drugs should still be pursued by the police, but more the supply side than the user side - let people do what they want - if they want to destroy their bodies thats fine by me. however the state should make sure there is good information about the immediate and long-term effects of drugs - something that is not taught in school (all we got was the "drugs are bad, just believe us ok?" speech :rolleyes: )


as for alcohol and tobacco, i still say if they were discovered tomorrow they would be class A's. alcohol is one of the most addictive and destructive - both pysiologically and sociologically - drugs out there; and it only enjoys the position it does today because it is such an integral part of society (as in, we used to drink it instead of water, centuries past :P )


and, in the hope that i don't have to say this again, weed is NOT psychologically addictive. it is habbit forming and creates problems with short term memory while smoking and for about 24 hours after - but not bad or even noticable problems after stopping smoking. it is a bad carcinogen. but it is also a lot of fun.
this past year i was a bit too much of a stoner - i smoked pretty much from waking up to going to sleep every day... and it cost a bomb! however i was still able to pass the year of a degree level Politics course without many problems. unfortunatley i'm now dropping out but thats because of personal and other psychological issues that are not connected at all.

i will continue to use drugs, but not as much in the past (time to attempt to cut back)

Living in Belgium, which (I think :rolleyes: ) means that marihuana is legal in very small quantities and if for personal use.

As for myself, well, I have smoked weed a few times in the past, but only when I could smoke along with friends - I never bought it or even smoked half a joint by myself. I just don't find it very appealing. As for 'the rest'; the only thing I ever tried was some ether with a couple of friends, that was a lot more fun, but still something I only did once. I would say that there are very few things I would not want to at least try out, it's just that I have almost no acces to it, and I'm still smart enough to realise that there are better things I can spend my money on - though as I said, I wouldn't mind.

[looks up from his bong]

Huh?

Hehe FANTASTIC answer! Nice one :D

Legalities don't concern me. What does is the effect the substances have on your body. I drink caffeinated products and alcohol seldom, and will never touch any other sort of drug.

[looks up from his bong]

Huh?

DUDE, puff puff pass. Don't Bogart.

:headbang:

Ideally, drug users would be put into rehab, instead of jail. This applies to cigarettes and alcohol as well.

Marijuana should be legal for industrial (hemp), and medical purposes, but not for recreational purposes.

I've never taken any illegal drugs. The only drugs I've taken before I was legal was alcohol.

That said, "Lasst das Hanf frei!" (free the weed) :D

Legalities don't concern me. What does is the effect the substances have on your body. I drink caffeinated products and alcohol seldom, and will never touch any other sort of drug.

Ditto. I'm such a control freak that the idea of being under any altered state of mind scares the bejesus out of me.

Seriously. The War on Drugs is a joke. They get tighter on drugs and it spreads more. I say make it legal. If you want to freebase yourself back to the ameba you came from, "GO FOR IT!!"

Darwinism at its finest.

Government only regulates it so THEY can sell it and make money for themselves. What? Do you think they actualy BURN or DESTROY all those drugs they confiscate.

*rolls a jolly monster spliff*

*tokes liberally*



*blows smoke in the President's stupid monkey face!*

*passes*

Drugs are bad, mmkay. its moderation thats the key - if you get this right then they're great! :D

i do take drugs, but only what i regard as 'soft' drugs - as in i would never touch the hardcore stuff like heroin. i do, however, smoke weed with impunity, drink (alcohol is a drug), take pills (mdma) and have taken shrooms, salvia and poppers (not that they count, lets be honest lol). i have my hang-ups about it but i'd probably give coke a try for kicks.
i basically won't do anything you can easily get physically addicted to.

i live in the UK so most of these are illegal (erm, actually... all of them :eek: ) but they're not exactly hard to get hold of - especially weed. this is one of the reasons i think the penalties for drugs use/possession should be greatly reduced and replaced with compulsory rehabilitation. supply should remain illegal as hell, of course. weed, being a special case (in that so many people still smoke it, absolutley regardless of its legality) should be legalised Amsterdam-style. well, similar: licenced shops like coffeeshops should sell it in a similar way to off-licences sell booze. this would remove the criminal element and the fact that weed is a gateway drug (which is due to the criminal element anyway)
other than that, small amounts of any (SOFT) drug found on you - if evidently for your personal use - should be ignored by the authorities. perhaps confiscation. hard drugs should still be pursued by the police, but more the supply side than the user side - let people do what they want - if they want to destroy their bodies thats fine by me. however the state should make sure there is good information about the immediate and long-term effects of drugs - something that is not taught in school (all we got was the "drugs are bad, just believe us ok?" speech :rolleyes: )


as for alcohol and tobacco, i still say if they were discovered tomorrow they would be class A's. alcohol is one of the most addictive and destructive - both pysiologically and sociologically - drugs out there; and it only enjoys the position it does today because it is such an integral part of society (as in, we used to drink it instead of water, centuries past :P )


and, in the hope that i don't have to say this again, weed is NOT psychologically addictive. it is habbit forming and creates problems with short term memory while smoking and for about 24 hours after - but not bad or even noticable problems after stopping smoking. it is a bad carcinogen. but it is also a lot of fun.
this past year i was a bit too much of a stoner - i smoked pretty much from waking up to going to sleep every day... and it cost a bomb! however i was still able to pass the year of a degree level Politics course without many problems. unfortunatley i'm now dropping out but thats because of personal and other psychological issues that are not connected at all.

i will continue to use drugs, but not as much in the past (time to attempt to cut back)

I totally agree with your responses, exactly my views.

Personally I smoke weed (I find it relaxing, a stress reliever and mind enchancer) and I do also tke speed. I used to take a lot of acid (although I'd never do it again Acid is one of the most fantastic experiances ever) also coke and sometimes Rocks - but I think I've grown up and moved on from thoes now.

What are your views on illegal drugs?

Personally, I don't understand why 'drugs' are illegal. Certainly, legality has no impact on my view of them: I would consider Class A magic mushrooms to be far 'better' than unclassified tobacco.

Do you take drugs? If so, what is the attraction, and do you care that they are illegal?

It's slightly tricky. Morally, I don't care. But, have I ever nervously fumbled away a half-rolled joint when someone approaches? Or course. So, I'd like to think I don't care, but I probably do to an extent.

As to why I do them, it varies. I find cannabis very relaxing - a mood settler. Speed and ecstasy (I've only taken the latter once, and it wasn't that special) are only if I want to have fun, or stay up for a long time. Psychoactive drugs - principally mushies and salvia divinorum - are for when I really feel like exploring my spirituality.

Do you think that tobacco and alcohol are just as bad as illegal substances? And should also be illegal?

Well, there's too many surveys and studies for me to really know anything. Personally, I find them as addictive, and as likely to give bad side-effects, as illegal substances. I certainly don't think criminalising is the answer, though.

...legalisation, etc....

Personally, I support the principle behind the Angel Declaration (http://www.angeldeclaration.com), although not the full text of the specific document. I do believe in full legalisation, but I would also expect certain limitations to be kept: for example, age restrictions, and limiting the amount one could buy in a single purchase, to avoid abuse/dealing.

I totally agree with your responses, exactly my views.

Personally I smoke weed (I find it relaxing, a stress reliever and mind enchancer) and I do also tke speed. I used to take a lot of acid (although I'd never do it again Acid is one of the most fantastic experiances ever) also coke and sometimes Rocks - but I think I've grown up and moved on from thoes now.
sweet! nice to know my views aren't totally nuts :p
i'm kinda starting to get to that stage where i think i really ought to "grow out" of drugs, but a) they are too fun, and b) there are still too many left to try! i need to take acid - shrooms are my build up - and i've never even thought about speed... hmm...

xtc is a great drug to chill out with if you haven't tried it already. its the clubbers choice, of course, but sitting round smoking shitloads of buds with it is also brilliant - its the perfect party drug as in it keeps you happy and awake enough to take others for longer! :p



oh and i just found this the other day - something my friends and i made ages back... this thread seems as fitting as any other for it :D

http://www.hlj.me.uk/DSC02487_1%20GIF.gif :cool:

Wow, not a single anti-drug post yet (unless some anti-drug type person posts while I'm typing this).

I'm all for drugs. All of them. The only drugs I do are the ones that grow (pot and mushrooms) and the ones that are legal (alcohol and nicotine), but I'm of the mind that if someone wants to consume something that could fuck them up perminently or possibly kill them down the line, they should have every legal right to. It thins out the population don't you know?

I live in Canada, where possesion of less than 15 grams of marijuanna (170$ an ounce up here where I am, how about where you are?) has been decriminalized. You can smoke a joint on your front lawn in full view of everyone and, as long as you have less than 15 grams and it's not divided up into different baggies, no one can touch you. I love it.

Anywho, those are my views on drugs. Smoke weed everyday, my friends.

You know, we should have an NS collective acid trip. That would be fun.

I live in Canada, where possesion of less than 15 grams of marijuanna (170$ an ounce up here where I am, how about where you are?) has been decriminalized. You can smoke a joint on your front lawn in full view of everyone and, as long as you have less than 15 grams and it's not divided up into different baggies, no one can touch you. I love it.

woah 15 grams? thats better than the netherlands! there its only 5 to my knowledge... i'm moving to canada! :P

actually, no, i'm moving to Amsterdam and living accross the road from The Grasshopper coffeeshop. its my plan and i'm sticking to it! :D


and here its about 120 to 160 quid for an oz - about US$ 217 to 290... yeah its pretty bad :(

Way back when I used to take drugs...but it got boring (after about 5 times) I also found that it didn't make me high...which I thought was odd. Until I read a book, when research was carried out they gave 1000 people either weed or a placebo...they told all people that they were going to smoke weed and oddly they all got high...don't get me wrong I'm pretty sure drugs have that effect on you but I just like that little bit of research shows all those the free thinking people who smoke are just sheep the same as the rest of us. :p

Generally the strangest thing I find is that we all know that smoking is bad for you, and all the latest and most indepth research shows that pretty much all drugs have a negitive health effect. So I was wondering if we legalise drugs are we just going to go through the whole health thing again? Just seems a waste of time.

I do no drugs, I really wouldn't want to alter my mind, even temporarily. The idea mildly disturbs me. :) I've never wanted to take drugs, I don't see the attraction to be honest.

sweet! nice to know my views aren't totally nuts :p
i'm kinda starting to get to that stage where i think i really ought to "grow out" of drugs, but a) they are too fun, and b) there are still too many left to try! i need to take acid - shrooms are my build up - and i've never even thought about speed... hmm...

xtc is a great drug to chill out with if you haven't tried it already. its the clubbers choice, of course, but sitting round smoking shitloads of buds with it is also brilliant - its the perfect party drug as in it keeps you happy and awake enough to take others for longer! :p



oh and i just found this the other day - something my friends and i made ages back... this thread seems as fitting as any other for it :D

http://www.hlj.me.uk/DSC02487_1%20GIF.gif :cool:

WOWThat is one hell of a pic! Well actually one hell of a joint! Or should I say joint's? :p

Strangely I have never taken xtc - strangely because I could walk out of my home and get pretty much anything I wanted in 10 mins!!! I guess it's the case that xtc has never really been avalibe or *done* in my circles.

I am not a heavy drugs user, but when I do indulge I like alcohol, weed and MDMA (I fucking love that one!).

I think that all drugs should be legal. My primary reason for this is that legalisation would eliminate the black market. There are too many evil criminal drug dealers out there, especially around the hard drugs. If the production, supply and sales of these drugs were made above board, they could be monitored for quality and taxed.

I also think that legalisation would all but eliminate gangsterism, which is an endless plague upon our inner cities that concerns me greatly.

If people have problems with addiction, I propose clinics run and funded jointly by the drug industry and the government.

WOWThat is one hell of a pic! Well actually one hell of a joint! Or should I say joint's? :p

Strangely I have never taken xtc - strangely because I could walk out of my home and get pretty much anything I wanted in 10 mins!!! I guess it's the case that xtc has never really been avalibe or *done* in my circles.
yeah its mostly a clubb-scene thing, so it wasn't done in my circles until my mate started going out with this girl who was really into her clubbing... heh glad he did that :p

and you think thats good we rolled one for my mate's birthday that we could only carry round his house in a poster-tube the length of a shoebox :D
i had a picture but it was on my old phone and it died :mad:
however i have other pics of our mondo joins, so i'll have a look n see what i got :P



just been working on this (http://www.hlj.me.uk/triptastic.jpg), inspired by my last shroom trip (big-ass filesize so watch it those on dialup). zoom in and you can see all the swirly detail too :)
perhaps its a tad OTT, but meh :p
edit: oh and thats me, btw

PM, what sort of shrooms and how much do you take?

PM, what sort of shrooms and how much do you take?
philosophers stones and some others i forget what - two boxes bought fresh in amsterdam so i dunno about grams but the apparent dosage was for 2 people per box. my mate and i were kinda mashed when we got em so we didn't really care :p

i say 'inspired' as in that pic is definatley an exaggeration... shame :( ;)

I think all drugs are ok, as long as you don't develop a dependency, or spend too much, and they don't interfere with your life.
I don't have an addictive personality myself, so everything but heroin and opium... Oh!!! And Crystal Meth.
NO ONE should smoke that. Ever.

[QUOTE=Pure Metalthis (http://www.hlj.me.uk/triptastic.jpg)[/QUOTE]

Wow, now that's cool, great pic! Oh and nice hair - you look GOOD m8!

Ahhh I must try XTC one of these days. But aggghhh maybe I'm tooo old now lol...

So do ypu still like Iron Maiden? And what other groups r u into?

I AM a drug! People keep me around to make them feel better. :)

I AM a drug! People keep me around to make them feel better. :)

*kidnaps you, tosses you into a clown-escape-proof cell and cackles*Indeed, indeed.

*kidnaps you, tosses you into a clown-escape-proof cell and cackles*Indeed, indeed.

..and eventually, after having me for a while, they end up filthy and paranoid. *nod* :)

I'm feeling rather driven to drugs this afternoon.

Edit* I have now been driven to drugs this afternoon.

Wow, now that's cool, great pic! Oh and nice hair - you look GOOD m8!

Ahhh I must try XTC one of these days. But aggghhh maybe I'm tooo old now lol...

So do ypu still like Iron Maiden? And what other groups r u into?
aw, gee, thanks:)
how old is too old though? never say i! ;)

and yeah maiden still rock, but i've kinda diversified into... pretty much anything rock (& metal) to a bit of jazz and even a teeny bit of drum n bass

you?



Edit* I have now been driven to drugs this afternoon.
hooray! let this thread degrade into a hedonistic party of drugs-inspired debauchery! (read: everyone get wasted! :D)

Ooh, I have to get in on this too.

Can rabbits climb trees?

:cool: <- Druggie Me-> :sniper:

What this is all saying is that I hate...scratch that...HATE druggies, well maybe not the ACTUAL people that smoke, but the pushers, I have no respect for them. I live in and upscale town where almost everyone can get their hands on some kinda drugs, and I hate it....

As for if I think drugs are as bad as cigs or alcahol, no pot is WAYYYYY better for you than cigs ever were/could be and enough alcahol can just screw you up (I've felt it, it sucked)

I AM a drug! People keep me around to make them feel better. :)

Well what the feck are you doing all the way over there then?

:cool: <- Druggie Me-> :sniper:

What this is all saying is that I hate...scratch that...HATE druggies
You need to calm down and smoke a joint.

Never done them, never will.

All of you should read A Million Little Pieces by James Frey. It may change your views on this subject (it's actually interesting if if you don't want your views changed).

*rolls a jolly monster spliff*

*tokes liberally*



*blows smoke in the President's stupid monkey face!*

*passes*

*the President thanks you uses it then passes it on.*



serious:
Never done them, never will. (excluding alcohol, but not tobaco)

[looks up from his bong]

Huh?

*Exhales*

Dude, I didn't catch it either... :D:D:D

But, what I did get is: MAIDEN! MAIDEN! MAIDEN!

Edit: I just realized that I ran out of beer and since it's 00:38 in the morning and I have a doctor's appointment in the morning (10:00) maybe that is a good thing. I just finished the "leftovers" from last night's 5l Beck's keg :D Got at least 1,5l out of it - yeay :p

Tried most of them. Don't do most of them anymore. I drink and smoke cigaretts and very occasionally smoke pot. I think they ALL should be legal. Although personally I have no use for pot heads. I can be lazy and eat too much without chemical assistance.