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In fact, let's all work for them, or work for companies that supply or service Wal-Mart. Because Wal-Mart is good and kind and generous to all living things. I would never think of pocketing anything, even the smallest gee-gaw or penny-candy, for fear of being killed by my fellow employees, but I love the low, low prices and the huge selection.

I agree. We also should all sign waivers allowing full body cavity searches every time we leave the store as a sign of our willingness to submit to the all mighty wal-mart.

Yaaaaaayyyy!!! I like not getting paid for overtime! :D

In fact, let's all work for them, or work for companies that supply or service Wal-Mart. Because Wal-Mart is good and kind and generous to all living things. I would never think of pocketing anything, even the smallest gee-gaw or penny-candy, for fear of being killed by my fellow employees, but I love the low, low prices and the huge selection.

I can't support this, because there's no Walmart in Australia. :D

Medical benefits? Who needs 'em! Just more ways to stick it to the authority-loving working man!

And paid vacations are for losers.

:rolleyes:

Cheapshots.

:rolleyes:

Cheapshots.
Take it to Moderation, there's nothing to see here.

Just so you know if your a walmart supplier. They treat the suppliers worse than the employees. Its an absolute nightmare. The demands are ridiculous to say the least. Can this monster be stopped?

I can't support this, because there's no Walmart in Australia. :D

Indeed. Coles-Myer and Woolworths Ltd. are our resident deities.

This Walmart thing is pretty big in the US, I guess. We have none. I suppose I should be glad.

All your business are belong to Wal-Mart!

In fact, let's all work for them, or work for companies that supply or service Wal-Mart. Because Wal-Mart is good and kind and generous to all living things. I would never think of pocketing anything, even the smallest gee-gaw or penny-candy, for fear of being killed by my fellow employees, but I love the low, low prices and the huge selection.
You know ... I can almost understand you being so far left that you make Lennin look like Rush Limbaugh. And I can almost understand why you hate your own Country, given that it's not behaving the way you think it should. But this animus against things simply because they're big or effective is just plain wierd. :headbang:

Curiously enough, if we all worked for walmart, our entire source of income came from walmart and, since nobody provides any other services, everything that sustains us comes from walmart, what you've described is a form of Capitalist Communism. 0o

You know ... I can almost understand you being so far left that you make Lennin look like Rush Limbaugh. And I can almost understand why you hate your own Country, given that it's not behaving the way you think it should. But this animus against things simply because they're big or effective is just plain wierd. :headbang:

You know, nothing was said to warrant this.

Must you persist in your dickery?

Indeed. Coles-Myer and Woolworths Ltd. are our resident deities.

At least they are (mostly) Australian and not foreign owned like most of our name brand these days.

I avoid Wal-Mart for reason that have nothing to do with politics. It's always crowded, confused, and full of 300 lb trailer trash women with 8 kids running around screaming. And the service and merchandise both stink. Viva la Target!

I avoid Wal-Mart for reason that have nothing to do with politics. It's always crowded, confused, and full of 300 lb trailer trash women with 8 kids running around screaming. And the service and merchandise both stink. Viva la Target!
I guess it depends upon what time you go. When I visit to buy my groceries and etc. for the month, it's seldom crowded or confusing. And I, unlike some of the "Oh-I'm-SO-humanitarian" liberals on here, am not offended by real people, real life or real children.

I avoid Wal-Mart for reason that have nothing to do with politics. It's always crowded, confused, and full of 300 lb trailer trash women with 8 kids running around screaming. And the service and merchandise both stink. Viva la Target!

Low prices attract people with low income. Makes sense.

But this animus against things simply because they're big or effective is just plain wierd. :headbang:not big-and-effective ...
It actually happens when you are successful ,dominant and Omnipresent...

For the same reasons people will attack McDonald's, BillGates/MS, Television, VideoGames, etc...

Sometimes you can be big...but if your Business does not require visibility...you will scape this animosity...Think ENRON, Altria, McKesson ...etc

I guess it depends upon what time you go. When I visit to buy my groceries and etc. for the month, it's seldom crowded or confusing. And I, unlike some of the "Oh-I'm-SO-humanitarian" liberals on here, am not offended by real people, real life or real children.
I've never said I was a humanitarian or a liberal. And real people come in all different shapes and sizes. Some are particularly annoying, especially the small ones whose parents are too overburdened to keep under control.

not big-and-effective ...
It actually happens when you are successful ,dominant and Omnipresent...

For the same reasons people will attack McDonald's, BillGates/MS, Television, VideoGames, etc...

Sometimes you can be big...but if your Business does not require visibility...you will scape this animosity...Think ENRON, Altria, McKesson ...etcEut, You will also notice that People from Australia, Sweden, (or elsewher Walmart is not omnipresent and Dominant) are puzzled at this agressivity...

The hate comes from Walmart-countries...Like ours.

In some other Countries like Canada...there is a Patriotism element that ads to the rage...

Shop at Cosco. They are the antithesis of walmart

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2004-09-23-costco_x.htm
http://www.laborresearch.org/story2.php/391
http://walmartwatch.com/press/releases/good_business_the_stark_contrasts_of_wal_mart_v_costco/
http://company.monster.com/costco/

If I wanted to be a CEO, Jim Senegal would be my role model. Look at their business practices and then look at their stock prices over the last 12 months. Walmart should be taking a page out of Costco's book.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=COST
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=WMT

Shop at Cosco. They are the antithesis of walmartyes Shop at Cosco...and at Walmart...and all your fav places...

shop wherever they give you the better deals...You will notice that It cannot be only one place...

Besides If everybody buys from the same company...you can kiss Price-wars goodbuy...

and say hello to Mr.Monopoly.

yes Shop at Cosco...and at Walmart...and at your fav stores...

shop wherever they give you the better deals...You will notice that It cannot be only one place...

Besides If everybody buys from the same company...you can kiss Price-wars goodbuy...

and say hello to Mr.Monopoly.

Shopping for the better deals isn't always the best decision. I think its important to shop with your conscience as well at times.

Shopping for the better deals isn't always the best decision. I think its important to shop with your conscience as well at times.I already vote with my conscience...which is more than what I can say for most of the People I know...

What is in your wallet? (Do you vote with your conscience?..who did you vote for?)

yes Shop at Cosco...and at Walmart...and at your fav stores...

shop wherever they give you the better deals...You will notice that It cannot be only one place...

Besides If everybody buys from the same company...you can kiss Price-wars goodbuy...

and say hello to Mr.Monopoly.
I'd rather be subject to a monopoly that treats its suppliers well than have them exploited in a price war so that I can buy things for cheaper.

If you buy wherever is cheaper, you encourage people to sell cheaper. If people see that they can take more sales if they can sell cheap, they drop them as low as they can while still making profit, often at the expense of employees and vendors to prevent any corporate capitol losses.

If, however, you choose to stay at one place that you know treats its employees and suppliers with respect and fair payment, then by all means stick with it. Who gives a damn about paying a few extra cents when you know that everyone is gaining from the investment?

I already vote with my conscience...which is more than what I can say for most of the People I know...

What is in your wallet? (Do you vote with your conscience?..who did you vote for?)

What's in my wallet? What is that supposed to mean?

I was out of the country during the last presedential election and I didn't manage to get an absentee ballot - I know, I'm a terrible citizen.

Just so you know if your a walmart supplier. They treat the suppliers worse than the employees. Its an absolute nightmare. The demands are ridiculous to say the least. Can this monster be stopped?


It can't be stopped, you've seen South Park...

It can't be stopped, you've seen South Park...

You obviously haven't seen that episode in its' entirety. You just need to break the little mirror in the TV department, next to the cellphones. Then the wallmart will die and lose bowel control.

"This screwdriver set is only $9.98 ... This bargain is too great for me - I'm gonna have to buy these."

You know, nothing was said to warrant this.

Must you persist in your dickery?
Dickery?

I quit my job at McDonald's and started at Walmart. The bargains so great, I can't sto, I CAN'T STOP, I CAN'T STOP!!!!!AAHAHAHAH! *IMPLODES*

I'd rather be subject to a monopoly that treats its suppliers well than have them exploited in a price war so that I can buy things for cheaper.I hate monopolies...
or Virtual-Monopolies (like Train-Corp or Bell-Corp. used to be)

A typical Monopolies exploits all the little people(middle class)...Employees/Costumers/suppliers they all lose...
What else is affected? the Quality of the Product and the costumer service...the Quality slowly degrades cos there is almost nowhere else the consumer can go.

So who wins in a Monopoly situation?
First in line are the executives , the bosses, the Owners, The managers, all the Fat Cats...
They are given Fat dividends, outrageous Revenues, Golden Parachutes, etc.
If you buy wherever is cheaper, you encourage people to sell cheaper.First, I buy the best Value on the table...The lowest price if the Quality is comparable.

If Dealer X is selling for $1000 less than the others...I ll buy my car there.

Am I encouraging a Price war? You bet your ass I am.

You obviously haven't seen that episode in its' entirety. You just need to break the little mirror in the TV department, next to the cellphones. Then the wallmart will die and lose bowel control.

"This screwdriver set is only $9.98 ... This bargain is too great for me - I'm gonna have to buy these."

Yeah, I onlt saw to the part with the manager guy...you know, when he commits suicide(or wallmart made him do it?)

I hate monopolies...
or Virtual-Monopolies (like Train-Corp or Bell-Corp. used to be)

A typical Monopolies exploits all the little people(middle class)...Employees/Costumers/suppliers are all exploited...
The Monopoly's executives/bosses are given Golden Paychecks...Golden Parachutes...Golden dividends...and a Golden Secretary if so they desire..
I agree with you in that respect; stuff the exploiters. My point, though, was that it is not reasonable to encourage one system of exploitation as an alternative for another, especially if the replacement hurts even harder at the bottom rung. So I say again, I would rather have a benevolent Monopoly than a price war that exploits its suppliers
First, I buy the best Value on the table...The lowest price if the Quality is comparable.

If Dealer X is selling for $1000 less than the others...I ll buy my car there.

Am I encouraging a Price war? You bet your ass I am.
Hmph. That $1000 that you don't pay could easily be seen as dirty money if it turned out that Dealer X's car had been stolen or acquired from the mob by consistent pressure by its thugs on its previous owner to pay extortionist repayments. You wouldn't value your money so much that you'd rather buy an ill-gotten vehicle for less than a legitimate one for more, would you?

The argument is similar with Walmart. Lower costs are no excuse for maltreatment of staff and underpayment of suppliers, and anyone who in knowing its foundation continues to shop there due to good value is being bribed into keeping their "business" going.

So I think you're wrong in your encouragement. I think it is based on entirely self-serving interests. But saying things like that these days isn't politically correct. So we'll just agree to disagree, and you can get on with your state-sponsored criminality.

Oops... So much for Political Correctness... ^^;

Hmph. That $1000 that you don't pay could easily be seen as dirty money if it turned out that Dealer X's car had been stolen or acquired from the mob by consistent pressure by its thugs on its previous owner to pay extortionist repayments. You wouldn't value your money so much that you'd rather buy an ill-gotten vehicle for less than a legitimate one for more, would you?You know...If I had to Find out...whether every Car I buy from the dealers...was not criminally related to the Mob...

I would get a job at the Police dept... Or just take the Bus.

You know...If I had to Find out...whether every Car I buy from the dealers...was not criminally related to the Mob...

I would get a job at the Police dept... Or just take the Bus.
Wow... that was one answer I wasn't expecting... "I like my ignorance, thank you very much"...

I apologise if that seems trollbatish, but it genuinely struck me as astounding that people would rather not know about the potential criminality of what they purchase if it means they get better value.

I guess it depends upon what time you go. When I visit to buy my groceries and etc. for the month, it's seldom crowded or confusing. And I, unlike some of the "Oh-I'm-SO-humanitarian" liberals on here, am not offended by real people, real life or real children.

You know ... I can almost understand you being so far left that you make Lennin look like Rush Limbaugh. And I can almost understand why you hate your own Country, given that it's not behaving the way you think it should. But this animus against things simply because they're big or effective is just plain wierd. :headbang:


Obsessed much?

Wow... that was one answer I wasn't expecting...Dont Worry...I get that all the time...People does not know what to expect from me...

You know ... I can almost understand you being so far left that you make Lennin look like Rush Limbaugh. And I can almost understand why you hate your own Country, given that it's not behaving the way you think it should. But this animus against things simply because they're big or effective is just plain wierd. :headbang:


You know, nothing was said to warrant this.

Must you persist in your dickery?
I expect no less than dogged persistence from the humourless.

Low prices attract people with low income. Makes sense.
I think it was Marilyn Manson who best described Wal-Mart as 'the place Trailer-Park dwellers got to shop for discount toiletries', though I'm most likely just paraphrasing, here.

Anyway, it works for me, however accurate or inaccurate my recollection may be.

Anyone got the exact quote from Mr. Manson on this one?

say hello to Mr.Monopoly.
Is Mr. Monopoly best represented by the Top Hat, the Racecar, The Wheelbarrow, or the Flatiron?

Maybe a card from Chance or Community Chest will give the answer.

Is Mr. Monopoly best represented by the Top Hat, the Racecar, The Wheelbarrow, or the Flatiron?

Maybe a card from Chance or Community Chest will give the answer. LOL

I like you style...reminds me of myself.

LOL

I like you style...reminds me of myself.
Careful, lest some of the smirking chimp fans think we post in concert.

acctually asda (the wal-mart owned thing in britain) is not that bad, they get training, job transferance (if they move they will be allowed to move their job to the nearest asda) and the pay is not bad (most of my old school friends work there part time) its above minimum (which isn't saying much but its more then they have to)

they are better then aldi and liddle (if you have to pay your management trainees £37k a year plus a car ($1=60p or there abouts) and includes stuff like private healthcare which is a very weird thing to offer in a country with free health care provision) and they have flexible working (you have to do everything!)

Is Mr. Monopoly best represented by the Top Hat, the Racecar, The Wheelbarrow, or the Flatiron?

Maybe a card from Chance or Community Chest will give the answer.

Uncle Pennybags! Oh yeah!

Uncle Pennybags! Oh yeah!
Is that what that rotten lil' ol' Capitalist bastard is called? The white-haired runt with the walrus moustache and spatz?

It always makes me smile when that gormless expoiter of the masses lands his ass in jail. Heh heh heh.

Careful, lest some of the smirking chimp fans think we post in concert.haha...

No matter what we say...they will always try to whinne about something. :D

I love Wal-Mart (well, tolerate it over other stores anyway), but I think I'll stick with eBay (http://www.ebay.com) and Half (http://www.half.com) for most of my froogle shopping. :D

All frooglemites unite!

What the hell is a 'frooglemite'?

You know ... I can almost understand you being so far left that you make Lennin look like Rush Limbaugh. And I can almost understand why you hate your own Country, given that it's not behaving the way you think it should. But this animus against things simply because they're big or effective is just plain wierd. :headbang:
Do you pay any attention what so ever? Because their big and successful, you really think that that is it, or are you just being obtuse?

Either way, it's not worth the effort to explain it to you again as at this point the ignorance has to be willful. Everyone finds their bliss their own way...

I never shop at Wal-Mart because I hate the atmosphere and lack of cleanliness, but I have absolutely no issues with a corporation making money. Being productive is the one of the highest moralities I recognize and the only morality that has universal appeal.

You know ... I can almost understand you being so far left that you make Lennin look like Rush Limbaugh.

Eut, if you're going to compare me to Vladimir Illyich Ulyanov, at least do me (and him) the honour of spelling his pen-name correctly.

It's Lenin, not 'Lennin'. Perhaps you're confusing him with John Stallin, the noted leader of the British music quartet, the Beagles.

And if you believe that last one, or believe I'm being anything other than completely sarcastic, your gullibility is exceeded only by your penchant for reactionary responses.

All your business are belong to Wal-Mart!
walmart set us up the monopoly.

This Walmart thing is pretty big in the US, I guess. We have none. I suppose I should be glad.

IKEA can be the same. They treat their workers better though.

Wal-Mart is great! I can spend all day there and never buy anything and no one bothers me for it. In return, I get free airconditioning, free toilet use, free use of music and videos and just hang out with my friends .. and the one near where I live has a McDonalds, so I often eat there.

Wal-Mart is great! I can spend all day there and never buy anything and no one bothers me for it. In return, I get free airconditioning, free toilet use, free use of music and videos and just hang out with my friends .. and the one near where I live has a McDonalds, so I often eat there.
So you do buy things there.

I guess it depends upon what time you go. When I visit to buy my groceries and etc. for the month, it's seldom crowded or confusing. And I, unlike some of the "Oh-I'm-SO-humanitarian" liberals on here, am not offended by real people, real life or real children.

Gotta love that refreshing centrism.

The UK has ASDA (Walmart offshoot).

So you do buy things there.
McDonald's is not Wal-Mart. McDonald's closed their store in our Wal-Mart, though that could be because there was another McDonald's out in front of the store

McDonald's is not Wal-Mart. McDonald's closed their store in our Wal-Mart, though that could be because there was another McDonald's out in front of the store
If it's inside the premises, some portion of the price of that McAwful's "food" is going to the Wal-Mart. Hell, if the McDick's is built on the Wal-Mart property at all, some portion of the money collected for the McSputum served there is going to Wal-Mart.

It's called 'rent'.

If it's inside the premises, some portion of the price of that McAwful's "food" is going to the Wal-Mart. Hell, if the McDick's is built on the Wal-Mart property at all, some portion of the money collected for the McSputum served there is going to Wal-Mart.

It's called 'rent'.
Awww, your jealosy is so cute! :)

Awww, your jealosy is so cute! :)
I can't for the life of me divine what it is I'm supposed to be jealous about. Shitty fast-food served in full-colour print, glossy-finish paper containers? Naughahide-upholstered bolted furniture? Flourescent track-lighting? Squalling infants and ketchup-smeared toddlers? Anything I've left out? Oh yeah - high-impact, low-brow advertising smeared over nearly every conceivable surface.

Yeah, I'm just green with jealousy. No, wait that's botulism.

McDonald's is not Wal-Mart. McDonald's closed their store in our Wal-Mart, though that could be because there was another McDonald's out in front of the store

Hmmmm...the Starbucks theory of business is that you should open up that store in Wal-Mart because there is another one just in front of the store...

Hmmmm...the Starbucks theory of business is that you should open up that store in Wal-Mart because there is another one just in front of the store...
Redundancy being strength, after all.

Awww, your jealosy is so cute! :)
Are you a 12 year old girl?

After puberty most of us stopped responding to criticism by insisting that 'you're just jealous.'

Shop at Cosco. They are the antithesis of walmart

If I wanted to be a CEO, Jim Senegal would be my role model. Look at their business practices and then look at their stock prices over the last 12 months. Walmart should be taking a page out of Costco's book.

but the capitalist press says that costco is bad because while they are making good money doing it, their business practices are objectively wrong (http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/08/living-dogs-life-at-costco.html).

"Treating workers too good is a bad thing, in and of itself--it's just a violation of the natural order of things. Here, most of the big retailers go to all the trouble of getting their associates' minds right, and along comes a competitor treating its people almost like human beings! Talk about the danger of a good example! How ya gonna keep the boy down on the farm when he's seen Paree?"

You know ... I can almost understand you being so far left that you make Lennin look like Rush Limbaugh. And I can almost understand why you hate your own Country, given that it's not behaving the way you think it should.
lol, Lenin. I thought Dobbsworld liked Canada. Let's face it, Estruca, Wal-Mart does suck.

Curiously enough, if we all worked for walmart, our entire source of income came from walmart and, since nobody provides any other services, everything that sustains us comes from walmart, what you've described is a form of Capitalist Communism. 0o
Correct. We'll spend the latter hald of the 21st century fighting war against it.

I guess it depends upon what time you go. When I visit to buy my groceries and etc. for the month, it's seldom crowded or confusing. And I, unlike some of the "Oh-I'm-SO-humanitarian" liberals on here, am not offended by real people, real life or real children.
Holy hell, what do you have against liberals?

I can't support this, because there's no Walmart in Australia. :D
Are you kidding? ARE YOU KIDDING!!!??? How can this be??? How have you resisted? HOW!???*faints*

You know ... I can almost understand you being so far left that you make Lennin look like Rush Limbaugh. And I can almost understand why you hate your own Country, given that it's not behaving the way you think it should. But this animus against things simply because they're big or effective is just plain wierd. :headbang:
:rolleyes: Says the man who sees American-hating liberals behind every corner...

Holy hell, what do you have against liberals?
I think he'd have no trouble at all if 'liberals' were instead to be sufficiently, ahem, "centrist" as to fit in at an Ayn Rand convention.

But that's just a wild and crazy guess.

You know, nothing was said to warrant this.

Must you persist in your dickery?
High 5 for making 'dickery' a word!!!! :D

I guess it depends upon what time you go. When I visit to buy my groceries and etc. for the month, it's seldom crowded or confusing. And I, unlike some of the "Oh-I'm-SO-humanitarian" liberals on here, am not offended by real people, real life or real children.
Oh quit with your blanket labelling and insinuations. Name one 'oh-so-humanitarian' liberal on here who is offended by 'real people, real life or real children' :rolleyes: And you wonder why people react negatively to your posts? If only to point out your disgusting stereotyping as NOTED, FILED, AND DISCARDED AS TYPICAL EUT FARE.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9443262&postcount=52

If you're going to compare me to ol' V.I., don't make an asshat of yourself. I refer you to my earlier response.

unlike some of the "Oh-I'm-SO-humanitarian" liberals on hereI guess he's pissed no "humanitarians" kept the rabble of angry peasants from spitting on him thirty years ago.

I avoid Wal-Mart for reason that have nothing to do with politics. It's always crowded, confused, and full of 300 lb trailer trash women with 8 kids running around screaming. And the service and merchandise both stink. Viva la Target!
I agree completely with you.
Target has said that it tries to aim for a “different” kind of people that Wal-Mart. That makes me feel special. :D Plus, no other store has the Target smell.

Target has said that it tries to aim for a “different” kind of people that Wal-Mart.

the kind that is willing to spend an extra dollar to buy something that won't break next week?

or do they just mean a 'better' class of people in general?

Eh, whot??? My boyfriend just started working for Wally World. Don't go knocking it now! He's been unemployed for half a year!!! Ignorance is bliss, right? :headbang:

My boyfriend just started working for Wally World.
Your boyfriend just started working at the fictional amusement park from the original 'National Lampoon's Vacation'?

Cool.

I could do with Beverley D'Angelo looking hot again.

the kind that is willing to spend an extra dollar to buy something that won't break next week?

or do they just mean a 'better' class of people in general?
Targets prices are a little higher, but not dramatically as far as I've noticed. For someone like me who is single and doesn't need to buy that much stuff, the difference is not dramatic. And Target is cleaner, less crowded, better organized, and their products generally meet a higher standard of quality.

Your boyfriend just started working at the fictional amusement park from the original 'National Lampoon's Vacation'?

Cool.

I could do with Beverley D'Angelo looking hot again.

Eh, bah! I scowl at you. Wally World also = Nickname for Wal-Mart. Yes, I'm sure it has some origin from National Lampoon's Vacation, but obviously he does not work for a fictional theme park from a movie. Pfft.

Eh, bah! I scowl at you. Wally World also = Nickname for Wal-Mart. Yes, I'm sure it has some origin from National Lampoon's Vacation, but obviously he does not work for a fictional theme park from a movie. Pfft.
Well, obviously. Gee, lighten up, it was in jest.

Well, obviously. Gee, lighten up, it was in jest.

Yes... obviously. ;)

In fact, let's all work for them, or work for companies that supply or service Wal-Mart. Because Wal-Mart is good and kind and generous to all living things. I would never think of pocketing anything, even the smallest gee-gaw or penny-candy, for fear of being killed by my fellow employees, but I love the low, low prices and the huge selection.
Complain about Wal-Mart all you want, but you gotta give them credit for getting to where they are. Their ruthless efficiency, love of technology, and their ultra-horizontal structure makes them what they are today. They are so efficient, not even management gets a break. I bet none of you know that the CEO's office is on the first floor of their HQ overlooking a parking lot.

Complain about Wal-Mart all you want, but you gotta give them credit for getting to where they are. Their ruthless efficiency, love of technology, and their ultra-horizontal structure makes them what they are today. They are so efficient, not even management gets a break. I bet none of you know that the CEO's office is on the first floor of their HQ overlooking a parking lot.
Actually, as an anti-consumerite, I don't have to give them "credit" for getting to where they are - I don't have to give them anything... however much they may have earned my enmity. And to be honest, I couldn't give a toss where their CEO has his office, or whether they'd replaced their CEO with a ficus tree, for that matter. Not to say I'm slagging you, Lotus Puppy, I'm slagging Wal-Mart.

Actually, as an anti-consumerite, I don't have to give them "credit" for getting to where they are - I don't have to give them anything... however much they may have earned my enmity. And to be honest, I couldn't give a toss where their CEO has his office, or whether they'd replaced their CEO with a ficus tree, for that matter. Not to say I'm slagging you, Lotus Puppy, I'm slagging Wal-Mart.
I'm jjust saying that they are ruthlessly efficient, and treat most everyone the same way. I mean, when management travels together, they find motels to sleep in at under $100 a night, and they share rooms. The investor in me admires that, as does the consumer.