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Pirates vs. Ninjas: Which is cooler?

Keruvalia
13-08-2005, 23:30
Okie ... final showdown time ...

Which is it to be?

Ultimately, which is cooler? Pirates or Ninjas?

I'm goin' with ninjas because anything made ninja is super cool. Gerbils? Meh ... they're fun and all ... but NINJA GERBILS! Now *that's* cool.

Pirates are funnier, hands down. There's a lot of comedy surrounding a pegleg and a parrot. But Ninjas top the cool meter.

Now ... Pirate Ninjas ... zowie ....
Sel Appa
13-08-2005, 23:33
Eastern Ninjas, not the corporate Western ninja that goes HYAH! HUUU!
Sydenzia
13-08-2005, 23:35
This isn't even a debate. Ninjas are cooler in every single way to pirates.
Swilatia
13-08-2005, 23:40
Ninjas would be cooler! Pirates are far less cool then ninjas!
The Tribes Of Longton
13-08-2005, 23:44
There is no debate. Space-pirate-ninjas aboard their space-pirate-junks own everything. Except Bucky O'Hare - damnded green rabbit gets me every time :p
Drzhen
13-08-2005, 23:44
No fucking way. Maddox the Pirate owns all you bitches.

Maddox! (http://www.maddox.xmission.com)
Le MagisValidus
13-08-2005, 23:58
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/DarkValor85/Wtf/ambush3a3hy.jpg

'Nuff said.
Ifreann
14-08-2005, 00:03
Well sure ninja's are better fighters.but being a pirate would be so much more fun!You have to train for years to be a ninja,and live a harsh life by a strict code.

Pirates on the other hand live a life of debauchery!if you want it,kill the owner and take it!!a short life of pillage,sea battles,piss ups and pirate songs!!and a cool name based on you beard!!!


15 men on a dead man's chest,yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
Ftagn
14-08-2005, 00:07
Well sure ninja's are better fighters.but being a pirate would be so much more fun!You have to train for years to be a ninja,and live a harsh life by a strict code.

Pirates on the other hand live a life of debauchery!if you want it,kill the owner and take it!!a short life of pillage,sea battles,piss ups and pirate songs!!and a cool name based on you beard!!!


15 men on a dead man's chest,yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

Exactly why a combination of Ninja and Pirate would rule. Kill and take whatever you want, because you're so damn badass that no one could stop you! You could even sing pirate songs if you really wanted!

Ninja Pirates rule!
Arizona Nova
14-08-2005, 00:08
This is truly the biggest, most pressing question of all time. Like the showdown between... between... a superpirate and a superninja. Big. Flashy.

I would definitely say I have to endorse the ninjas. Smoke bombs, stealth, and assasination - it doesn't get better than that.

Also, Maddox may be a pirate, but he endorses Ninjas:

http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm

He links to that at the bottom of the page.
N00bdom
14-08-2005, 00:09
No fucking way. Maddox the Pirate owns all you bitches.

Maddox! (http://www.maddox.xmission.com)

You can't spell Pirate without Irate.
Letila
14-08-2005, 00:11
Ninja. Pirates always struck me as drunk, heavy-handed thugs, but ninja strike me as having more sophistication and skill.
The Tribes Of Longton
14-08-2005, 00:14
You can't spell Pirate without Irate.
Ah yes, but you can't spell pirate without tape either. Or pate. Does this mean pirates enjoy watching VHS films about food? I think a little investigation is in order...
Ifreann
14-08-2005, 00:29
Ninja. Pirates always struck me as drunk, heavy-handed thugs, but ninja strike me as having more sophistication and skill.


Ah yes,but that means very few people would be able to survive the training necessary to become a ninja.on the other hand any idiot can be a pirate provided he can recognise gold,silver,and jewels,knows which parts of his sword are sharp,knows a bit about ships(things like holes=bad) and can handle his alcohol.sorted.its a pirates life for me!
Rain Dog
14-08-2005, 00:41
A pirate can shoot you with a gun, Ninjas don't use guns. Maybe back in the whatevers, ninjas owned. But in this day in age, pirates are a hell of alot more badass. Shit, in "Captain Ron" those pirates were hardcore. I'd like to see a ninja try and board a boat with Kurt Russel at the helm.
Olympea
14-08-2005, 00:46
There needs to be another option in the poll, because Pirate Ninjas are the best.

Better yet, Lesbian Elf Cheerleader Pirate Ninjas in space...
Cannot think of a name
14-08-2005, 00:58
he endorses Ninjas:

http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm

Huh, these Food for the Moon (makers of the official film on the website) cats are students at my (former) school. Their movies are all over our TV station. I was a class or two ahead of them, so I never interacted with any of them but I've seen 'em around and and have seen all thier films. Gotta give 'em credit gettin it out there. I don't know how involved with RUP they are other than that film.

Ninja's are fodder more often than Pirates, but are rarely shown as bungling and no one makes ninja musicals-take that for what you will.
Cannot think of a name
14-08-2005, 01:00
Better yet, Lesbian Elf Cheerleader Pirate Ninjas in space...
Hmmm. Your idealogy intrigues me. I would like to read some brochures and see about joining your cult and/or organization...
Arizona Nova
14-08-2005, 01:01
Ninja's are fodder more often than Pirates, but are rarely shown as bungling and no one makes ninja musicals-take that for what you will.

Ninjas are too cool for musicals.
Cymrudia
14-08-2005, 01:02
pirates win every time hands,errr hooks, down.
i just wrote my masters thesis on pirates, so i know they kick ninja ass.
not only are they cool in general, they also can dress very flamboyantly, and then go screw wenches, how many ninjas can do that. also, pirates have ships with cannonades and canons on board, plus pirates have guns, swords, boathooks, gaffs, marlinspikes,rigging spikes and grog bottles at their disposal. and, ninjas don't hold a candle to a man in a puffy shirt who says "arr, shiver me timbers, ye scurvy wench."
Cymrudia
14-08-2005, 01:04
There needs to be another option in the poll, because Pirate Ninjas are the best.

Better yet, Lesbian Elf Cheerleader Pirate Ninjas in space...
i'd watch that show 24/7. i think it would have to guest star MacGyver and B.A. Barabas. probably should guest star jamie farr as well.
Shedor
14-08-2005, 02:11
Ninjas easily, theyre elusive and surreptitous, and spies.
Spartiala
14-08-2005, 02:14
pirates win every time hands,errr hooks, down.
i just wrote my masters thesis on pirates, so i know they kick ninja ass.
not only are they cool in general, they also can dress very flamboyantly, and then go screw wenches, how many ninjas can do that. also, pirates have ships with cannonades and canons on board, plus pirates have guns, swords, boathooks, gaffs, marlinspikes,rigging spikes and grog bottles at their disposal. and, ninjas don't hold a candle to a man in a puffy shirt who says "arr, shiver me timbers, ye scurvy wench."

You wrote a masters thesis on pirates? Cool! Was it for an English degree or History or what?
Barlibgil
14-08-2005, 02:18
seeing gerbil ninjas made me think of this toy my sister used to have.

It was a gerbil dressed in a ninja costume.

you pressed a button, and the song "Kung-Fu Fightin'" by Bus Stop played.

The gerbil had a little pair of nunchucks that spun when the music played.

"Everybody was kung-fu fightin'
Those cats were fast as lightnin'
In fact it was a little bit frightnin'
But they fought with expert timin'"

anyway, ninjas are waaaaaaay cooler than pirates.
Spartiala
14-08-2005, 02:21
seeing gerbil ninjas made me think of this toy my sister used to have.

It was a gerbil dressed in a ninja costume.

you pressed a button, and the song "Kung-Fu Fightin'" by Bus Stop played.

The gerbil had a little pair of nunchucks that spun when the music played.

"Everybody was kung-fu fightin'
Those cats were fast as lightnin'
In fact it was a little bit frightnin'
But they fought with expert timin'"

anyway, ninjas are waaaaaaay cooler than pirates.

Yeah, I remember those things! My little sister wanted one, but we wouldn't let her get one. Ha ha!
Jenrak
14-08-2005, 02:25
Both people's stereotypical view of Pirates and Ninjas are highly skewed. My great-great-grandfather himself would be branded as a Ninja, although he was not the type of Ninja who people think run around and kill people. He was actually part of raids, which terrorised villages.

If you do some research, you'll know that only some kinds of Ninjas and only some kinds of Pirates are actually what you think they are. They both, however, share a common code, a social order (yes, they do), don't maniacly pick random targets to kill, and both are strategically inclined. Pirates must choose certain ships, and employ certain strategies. They also can use stealth tactics, smoke bombs, and sabres, and ninjas are quite capable of out in the open fighting.

But I still ninjas are cooler cause they look cooler.
Call to power
14-08-2005, 02:44
[QUOTE=Jenrak]he was not the type of Ninja who people think run around and kill people. He was actually part of raids, which terrorised villages.QUOTE]

he sounds cool I bet he's one of those really cool old people who get all the nurses, gives those whippersnappers and good ass whooping and of course still terrorize villages

but pirates kick ass!
http://www.stanford.edu/~scodary/tkam.htm
Jenrak
14-08-2005, 02:48
Lol, I've seen that flash movie. Quiet Hilarious.

He was killed quiet early in life though.
Katzistanza
14-08-2005, 02:51
Ninjas, bitches. Ninjas.
Pongoar
14-08-2005, 03:22
Pirates suck. I just can't see what's cool about getting scurvy and dying.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
14-08-2005, 03:42
Pirates kick Ninja ass every time.
Think about it, have you ever heard of space ninjas (beyond your silly little animes)? No, but space pirates are a definate part of the future, and so Pirates win there due to greater room for career expansion.
Further, Pirates can become kings by their own hand, even the Head-Ninja doesn't have as much power as the Pirate King.
Finally, ninjas have to deal with little boys following them around trying to watch them go invisible, Pirates get followed around by hot wenches trying to watch certain parts of the Pirate remain shockingly visible.
Little Boys or Hot Wenches?
Ninjas or Pirates?
The choice is obvious.
Blood Moon Goblins
14-08-2005, 04:16
Ninja. Pirates always struck me as drunk, heavy-handed thugs, but ninja strike me as having more sophistication and skill.
Yes, but Pirate were also THE symbol of anarchy in the 15/16/17 hundreds, most likely they were the free-est (in most cases) people on Earth at the time.
Sorry, couldnt help it :P

Anyway, pirates are cooler, because they have guns.
Imagine, Ninja vr. Pirate.

Ninja: HYUUUU!!!
*jumps at Pirate with sword raised)

Pirate:...
*pulls out pistol and shoots ninja&

Ninja: BLAST!
*dies*

Pirate: Yarrr!
*plunders Ninja*
Arizona Nova
14-08-2005, 04:32
Finally, ninjas have to deal with little boys following them around trying to watch them go invisible, Pirates get followed around by hot wenches trying to watch certain parts of the Pirate remain shockingly visible.
Little Boys or Hot Wenches?
Ninjas or Pirates?
The choice is obvious.Simple. Ninja flips out and takes out little boy, then ninja kills pirate while he sleeps with wench and then usurps the bed. Ninja wins.
Mind Sickness
14-08-2005, 04:36
I'm definately going to have to throw my vote in for Pirates as well, for a few reasons:

1. Becoming wealthier than an undiseased whore at a prison for corporate executives is much more probable if you're a pirate
2. Pirates have only to be loyal to their captain, and if he is unkind to them, he ends up living the last few days of his life floating in the middle of the ocean
3. Ninjas wear pyjamas
4. Pirates are master navigators, and I have a profound respect for anyone with an excellent sense of direction

I must admit that ninjas are also very cool, but the pirate's life is for me.

Yaaar...
Bedou
14-08-2005, 04:52
Pirates way cooler then Ninjas, Ninjas just dress more comfy.

Cheng I Sao, best pirate ever.
Meanmomsworld
14-08-2005, 05:01
Ninja is a learned behavior while Pirate is born - makes Pirates cooler from birth!
Katzistanza
14-08-2005, 05:13
Dude, ninja can turn invisible, shrug off wounds, kill you from quite far away with a sheriken, can throw sheriken quite rapindly, unlike a pirate, with his inaccurate pistol that takes 5 minutes to reload after each shot. Ninja are just better fighters, and cooler people in general.

Now I'll admit, a pirates life would be mighty fun, but ninjas are much cooler, and that's what this thread was about.

As to the weanches argument, ninja can turn invisible, and I don't know about the rest of you ladies, but my girlfriend has a certain fantisy about doing it with an invisible man....
Morvonia
14-08-2005, 05:26
The modern ninja AKA Splinter cells Sam Fisher,no shuirkins here,a knife, a rifle /w attachments,and a pistol is all this bad boy needs.
Falhaar
14-08-2005, 06:37
Pirates win out. A shuirkin vs twelve ten-pounder cannons, duh.
Kroisistan
14-08-2005, 06:42
I have to say Pirates. Pirates rule. And of course, Flying Spaghetti Monster demands that his followers wear full pirate regalia(see link in my sig), so it's another plus to being a Pirate. And of course, with Pirates there's the off chance that you get rich as hell, or even conquer a small island and make yourself a king.. or something. Ninjas, just kill people. They do that well, but Pirates are still cooler.
Jeruselem
14-08-2005, 07:47
Ninjas, but then my PC is called Shintaro :D
Katzistanza
14-08-2005, 14:07
Pirates win out. A shuirkin vs twelve ten-pounder cannons, duh.

A ninja wouldn't stand still to be git by a cannon. If the pirate get's his whole ship and crew (which is nessicary if you're using cannons) the ninja get's his whole clan, and they pull a night raid and are on the boat before the drunken pirates know what's happening. Cannons are only effective against a large stationary opponent.


And the variety of weapons ninja's had, from poision darts to all maner or anti-samuri and heavy weapons, pirates don't stand a chance.

And if you're a ninja, you can become king of a ninja clan! That's fricken cool! You can even make your base your own island, if you want.
Homieville
14-08-2005, 14:24
I like Ninjas because they are all big spy people
Beer and Guns
14-08-2005, 14:27
Arrr mateys me Pirates can be ninjas if they like ...but the loot shares out the same !
Lankuria
14-08-2005, 17:22
Yay for ninjas! You can run up walls, go invisible, and kick people's kidneys through their ears, all the while achieving inner peace and tranquility!!!
Angelicia
14-08-2005, 17:31
Johnny Depp never played a ninja. End of. :D
Jenrak
14-08-2005, 17:39
You're forgetting that Pirate and Ninja is a title, not a steretypical kind of people.

Ninja
1. A member of the ninja who were trained in martial arts and hired for espionage or sabotage or assassinations; a person skilled in ninjutsu.

Pirate
1. To attack and rob (a ship at sea).
2. To take (something) by piracy.
3. To make use of or reproduce (another's work) without authorization.

Yaya ninjas. Pirates are too generic for me.
Rain Dog
14-08-2005, 17:41
The modern ninja AKA Splinter cells Sam Fisher,no shuirkins here,a knife, a rifle /w attachments,and a pistol is all this bad boy needs.

Man, that is not a ninja. That is a secret agent. Get it straight, brother. If secret agent was an option in this poll, I would pick that. Secret Agents have all the insane skills of a ninja, but don't have to meditate and get all kinds of tail. It isn't though, so I stick by pirate.
Winston S Churchill
14-08-2005, 17:41
The PIRATES OF PENZANCE lay waste to all!


And also, you never hear of the Dread Ninja Roberts...
its the Dread Pirate Roberts


Pirates hands down...
Keruvalia
14-08-2005, 17:42
Johnny Depp never played a ninja. End of. :D

Aye, but Chris Farley played a ninja ... and Chris Farley, while not as good looking, is a damn sight cooler than Johnny Depp. :D
Jenrak
14-08-2005, 17:42
Peter: I am a Robot Ninja from the Future, sent to protect the Future. my name is Anna.

Family Guy agrees Ninjas are awesome.
R0cka
14-08-2005, 17:48
Okie ... final showdown time ...

Which is it to be?

Ultimately, which is cooler? Pirates or Ninjas?

I'm goin' with ninjas because anything made ninja is super cool. Gerbils? Meh ... they're fun and all ... but NINJA GERBILS! Now *that's* cool.

Pirates are funnier, hands down. There's a lot of comedy surrounding a pegleg and a parrot. But Ninjas top the cool meter.

Now ... Pirate Ninjas ... zowie ....

I think I'd have a better time hanging out with pirates, you know, all the booty and loot!

But Ninjas are far more deadly.

If only there were a way to combine them....................

Pirate Ninjas!
R0cka
14-08-2005, 17:50
Peter: I am a Robot Ninja from the Future, sent to protect the Future. my name is Anna.

Family Guy agrees Ninjas are awesome.

Man, I love the King and I.
Salsadip
14-08-2005, 18:02
Ok i think we can establish from this that a combination of the two is more cool than the separate titles but! what's more cool now? Pirate-ninjas or Ninja-pirates? or are giant inter-spacial ham-hams from the future the coolest of all? :D
Katzistanza
14-08-2005, 18:11
Ninja-pirates sounds cooler. Easyer to say. Also, ninja just works well as a prefix.

Librarian? Boaring.
Ninja Librarian! Awesome!

Astronaut? Pretty cool already
Ninja Astronaut! Kick-ass!

Besides, a ninja-pirate is a pirate's life and fun injected with a ninja's coolness, stealth, and fighting ability.

Plus, you can say things like "Yarr, I be greatly honored!"
Salsadip
14-08-2005, 18:19
that reminds me of a joke

Why are pirates, pirates?

Because they arr!
Crystapine
14-08-2005, 18:30
I have to say that pirates take the cake. Not just because they plunder and pillage at their own discretion, because some of the most succesful "pirates" didn't do that at all. They would take contracts and fight the enemies of the nation that hired them, of course it wasn't unusual for a pirate to turn on his employer, and that is why so many of them didn't last very long. They just rock though. Sailing around, and stuff. Go pirates.
Salsadip
14-08-2005, 18:35
ninjas did like pretty much the same stuff cept for the sailing but when did pirates ever kill without a sound? also not hearing anything for the ham-hams?
Angus Macinnes
14-08-2005, 19:33
Pirates are much more fun at parties and not near as stuffy as those ninja folk! LMAQ
Sonaj
14-08-2005, 19:44
Vikings!
Danmarc
14-08-2005, 20:30
In terms of coolness, both are up there, but i think Pirates definitely take the cake...
The Green Plague
14-08-2005, 22:40
I don't think anyone is going to downgrade the Ninja, but to be honest, you really can't get any cooler than a pirate.... The beard, the peg leg, the hook, the eye patch, the parrot... What else could you ask for?
Klacktoveetasteen
14-08-2005, 22:42
The pirate, of course. I mean, look at the list:

1. Rum

2. Gold

3. Freedom

4. Loose women and/or men

5. The open sea

What's not to like?
Ifreann
14-08-2005, 22:46
The pirate, of course. I mean, look at the list:

1. Rum

2. Gold

3. Freedom

4. Loose women and/or men

5. The open sea

What's not to like?


Not to mention manly sing-a-longs.Yohoho and a bottle of rum!and the occasional sea battle.damned navy,always persecutin us poor innocent pirates.feckin anti-piracy laws
Kaymiril
14-08-2005, 22:49
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/DarkValor85/Wtf/ambush3a3hy.jpg

'Nuff said.
Lol. Ninja.

C'mon...ninjas actually have to train. Pirates sit around all day, doing nothing, until they have a battle, and then half of them die because they're untrained.

And that's the facts, Jack. Historically speakin'.
Klacktoveetasteen
14-08-2005, 22:54
Lol. Ninja.

C'mon...ninjas actually have to train. Pirates sit around all day, doing nothing, until they have a battle, and then half of them die because they're untrained.

And that's the facts, Jack. Historically speakin'.

And if a nija fails, he is rewarded with death. Furthermore, he never gets to keep any loot- it goes to the clan.

So, they have shitty healthcare, and no perks. Sucks to be a ninja.
Katzistanza
14-08-2005, 23:06
Vikings!


This just ads a whole new dimention to the debate
Magick Isles
14-08-2005, 23:06
As to the weanches argument, ninja can turn invisible, and I don't know about the rest of you ladies, but my girlfriend has a certain fantisy about doing it with an invisible man....

I wouldn't have made that public, as it might be implying something about you.

I have to say pirates are the best, but I'm biased since my mother's side has both pirates and vikings. I'm actually descended from Sir Francis Drake, a great pirate who served the queen of England. And I'm also descended from Leif Ericson, the most famous of Vikings. That makes me pirate-viking royalty.
Eh-oh
14-08-2005, 23:10
ninjas are cooler, but pirates are more.....ummm....fun
Katzistanza
14-08-2005, 23:17
I wouldn't have made that public, as it might be implying something about you.

Ouch. No need for personal attacks :(

::licks wounded pride::
Elektrik Pyrates
14-08-2005, 23:20
Okie ... final showdown time ...

Which is it to be?

Ultimately, which is cooler? Pirates or Ninjas?

I'm goin' with ninjas because anything made ninja is super cool. Gerbils? Meh ... they're fun and all ... but NINJA GERBILS! Now *that's* cool.

Pirates are funnier, hands down. There's a lot of comedy surrounding a pegleg and a parrot. But Ninjas top the cool meter.

Now ... Pirate Ninjas ... zowie ....

Elektrik Pyrates Arghh Elektrik Kool Thar be no place for Ninjas here argghhttp://forums.jolt.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=9437885# :sniper:
Rolen
14-08-2005, 23:37
I think the Pirates are starting to catch the ninjas... Gooooooooo Pirates!!!!
Katzistanza
14-08-2005, 23:40
bah! You just have more vocal supporters, which is swaying the voting ::shakes fist::
Rolen
14-08-2005, 23:41
reminds me of the Dodgeball movie, with vince vaughn. Remember the crazy buddy, that always talked about being a pirate... That's the guy....
Danmarc
14-08-2005, 23:46
Keep up the good work Pirates... Don't let those hard working ninjas keep you down...
Englandy
14-08-2005, 23:55
Pirates as so dumb

one ninja could take down a horde of pirates without breaking a sweat..... theres no competition!
Mind Sickness
15-08-2005, 00:00
Did I just see a reference to Steve the Pirate from Dodgeball (who also happens to be the pilot from Firefly)? Kick ass.

This is a pretty close race, but I've got another plus for the pirate side: free stuff (not stolen)! Ninjas get everything from their clan, and aren't allowed to have many personal belongings. Pirates can get free stuff from people from just by walking into their business.

Pirate: "Arr.."
Store Clerk: "Please don't kill me, plunder me and rape my corpse!"
Pirate: "That be a mighty fine shirt yer wearin' boyo."
Store Clerk: "It's yours!"
Katzistanza
15-08-2005, 00:16
Rogue Ninja owe the clan nothing. They can be just a maurading as pirates. On the other hand, a clan ninja has the whole fucking clan to back you up, and even the Emporers and Shogun dared not piss them off. The most a pirate can ever count on is his ship, and even then you never know when one of your shipmates will slit your throat over a card game or drunken brawl.

Besides, ninja can go out in public without being captured and hung by the bobbies.


Come on ninja! Fire back! We're leading in the polls but not by much, we need to hold our own in the debate
Danmarc
15-08-2005, 00:26
don't listen to that ninja propaganda machine, Pirates are the ones that make the world go round.... Three cheers for the pirates..
Danmarc
15-08-2005, 00:28
reminds me of a funny bumper sticker for the 2004 George Bush campaign, (which was famously un-popular with inner city constituents)..

"Holla at ya boy Bush in November"

could easily be

"Holla for the Pirates in November"
Tannenmille
15-08-2005, 00:57
Pirates are not drunk unless they are on shore leave, period.


* Every man shall obey civil Command; the Captain shall have one full share and a half in all Prizes; the Master, Carpenter, Boatswain and Gunner shall have one Share and quarter.

* If any man shall offer to run away, or keep any Secret from the Company, he shall be marroon'd with one Bottle of Powder, one Bottle of Water, one small Arm and shot.

* If any Many shall steel any Thing in the Company, or game, to the Value of a Piece of Eight, he shall be marroon'd or shot.

* If at any Time we should meet another Marrooner (that is Pyrate) that Man that shall sign his Articles without the Consent of our Company, shall suffer such Punishment as the Captain and Company shall think fit.

* That Man that shall strike another whilst these Articles are in force, shall receive Mose's Law (that is 40 stripes lacking one) on the bare Back.

* That Man that shall snap his Arms, or smoak Tobacco in the Hold, without a cap to his Pipe, or carry a Candle lighted without a Lanthorn, shall suffer the same Punishment as in the former Article.

* That Man that shall not keep his Arms clean, fit for an Engagement, or neglect his Business, shall be cut off from his Share, and suffer such other Punishment as the Captain and the Company shall think fit.

* If any Man shall lose a Joint in time of an Engagement he shall have 400 pieces of Eight; if a limb 800.

* If at any time you meet with a prudent Woman, that Man that offers to meddle with her, without her Consent, shall suffer present Death.

Bam. Pi/yrates were plenty fit enough to combat any bastards that try to board them, and they weren't just getting blind drunk whenever they felt like it. Piracy was very organized and democratic, and if you didn't like what the Captain was doing then you found a new Captain.

Pirates win hands down. Pirates are badass. Ninjas would never be able to command a sloop and use said sloop to plunder a Spanish treasure galleon, because they suck and piracy. Pirates are good at piracy, ninjas are good at fulfulling the "oh look I'm cool because I have black clothes and throwing stars" needs of the small children that think ninjas are really like they are portrayed in movies.

Pirates and Ninjas are kick ass in their own respects, and there's not a very good way to compare them because they're so different. But in terms of badassdom, I would say Pirates kick Ninjas in the ass.
Winston S Churchill
15-08-2005, 02:43
Plus the Pirates count Edward Teach (Blackbeard) among their ranks...that just adds another level to their dominance.


And once I again I reiterate...

The PIRATES OF PENZANCE lay waste to ALL!
Zexaland
15-08-2005, 02:57
D'UH! PIRATES! That's why we PIRATE games and movies, no1 "NINJAS" them!
Valosia
15-08-2005, 03:00
Ninjas suck, pirates rule.

Ninjas need surprise because they suck at being man enough to fight head on. A pirate needs only rum, or the promise of rum, and he'll take anyone anytime.

Ninjas don't get chicks, except for girl ninjas, and despite what video games tell you, they were not hot with enormous boobies, they looked just like the boy ninjas. Pirates get booty whenever they pull into port, and steal women from their vanquished foes. Your pirate friend would pull so many chicks that he'd share them with you...ninjas are asexual and wouldn't try to score their friends some tail. They are too busy meditating.

A ninja has no vehicle. Pirates have entire galleons to ride in. A ninja can't take you to cool places like a pirate can.

Ninjas drink sake. Pirate booze such as ale and rum are much better. Pirates throw better parties.

Therefore, ninjas suck, pirates rule.
Rambozo
15-08-2005, 03:00
No fucking way. Maddox the Pirate owns all you bitches.

Maddox! (http://www.maddox.xmission.com)

YES!
Carterway
15-08-2005, 03:12
Basic black does truly never go outta style, but it does get boring after a while! On the other hand, no-one can EVER say that pirates are just fashion victims. :-D

They both have a code of conduct and a code of honor (a much looser code in the case of pirates as a rule), even though it can be a "mercinary" code. But the life of a degenerate at sea? Never could turn that down. :-D

Yo, ho, yo, ho - a pirate's life for me!

Carterway!

"The Unhousebroken Dog of the Seas!"
Magick Isles
15-08-2005, 03:18
Holy crap! Dead tie. Go pirates! Serve your pirate prince (me) well!
Mumzieland
15-08-2005, 03:25
No booty for ninjas!
Samumenistanisteinberg
15-08-2005, 03:28
Ninjas are nifty and all, but they're not even as cool as samurai. So, I'm going with pirates.
Tannenmille
15-08-2005, 04:16
Hell yes, the Pirates are rightfully winning.

Pirate Pride!
Copiosa Scotia
15-08-2005, 04:39
Pirates get more booty.

Edit: Shit. As I had worried, this joke has already been made about a thousand times in this thread.
Tevis
15-08-2005, 04:41
Pirates are cooler because they go after booty!
Valosia
15-08-2005, 04:41
Also, Pirates are also better musicians. Ninjas have stupid music. Pirates have songs that everyone can sing along with. Do you want to sing a ninja song? No, because they are anti-social and would kill you for wanting to have a good time.
Tannenmille
15-08-2005, 04:42
Man, this thread has made me want to boot up Pirates of the Caribbean and play again. I can't wait for Age of Pirates to come out.


You hear that, ninja-boys? There is no ninja game because ninjas blow so much ass. Pirates win any day.
Kadmark
15-08-2005, 04:44
It depends...

if the ninjas are attacking the pirates on their pirate ship, then the pirates have a huge advantage 'cause they know the turf and the ninjas don't. So like... the ninjas would try to come onto the ship all sneaky-like and the pirates would all burst out from below deck and swinging down from the masts and crap and slaughter them.

Now, on land, it's a different story. If the ninjas attack during the day, then the pirates would probably win since pirates travel in packs and ninjas typcially work only in ones or twos. If the ninjas attack at night or if the pirates are drunk, then the ninjas would most definitely win.

So... that's 2 for pirates, 2 for ninjas. I can't think of any other situations, so I think it's pretty even for both.
Danmarc
15-08-2005, 04:48
don't buy into that Ninja propoganda.... Pirates rule!!!
Horde of Zerglings
15-08-2005, 04:48
hmmm lets see
Pirates=mercenary/thief: pros: cool ship, have a ship Cons: they are considered good guys and they are just marauders

Ninjas=Assassins/thieves pros: awesome weapons, stealth, the fact they are Oriental, black, honor (to an extent) martial arts cool gadgets, they are just SO COOl Cons: fricken western media puts them in a wacko light

conclusion pirates get :sniper: by ninjas
i am so biased towards ninjas
Jenrak
15-08-2005, 21:04
You hear that, ninja-boys? There is no ninja game because ninjas blow so much ass. Pirates win any day.

What about Ninja Gaiden?
Kinda Sensible people
15-08-2005, 21:17
ninja's pwn you. Pirates are just cheapskates using cheaters weapons (like guns). Most of 'em can't fight anyway.
Ninjirate
15-08-2005, 21:22
You see, if you combine pirates and ninjas together to get pirate ninjas, or as me and a friend came up with, Ninjirates, you get the best of both worlds. You get to pillage and sail under the Jolly Roger, plus you're immortal and know martial arts and get to fight with samurai swords, so it totally rocks.
Rodenka
15-08-2005, 21:52
Ninjas hands down. I mean, how can you argue with being able to transform into a log, or jump from roof top to roof top to get your friends free cable?
Winston S Churchill
16-08-2005, 04:58
A samurai sword would be quite useless in a close-quartered, chaotic melee on the two rocking, swaying objects that are ships at sea...the cutlass, pistol, and blunderbuss (musket equivilent of a shotgun) are the most effective weapons I feel...oh and pikes as well. This is assuming this combat is aboard ship.
Spaam
16-08-2005, 06:01
I know someone who is creating miniature ninja pirate robots... just think of the possibilities!
Magick Isles
16-08-2005, 06:06
A samurai sword would be quite useless in a close-quartered, chaotic melee on the two rocking, swaying objects that are ships at sea...the cutlass, pistol, and blunderbuss (musket equivilent of a shotgun) are the most effective weapons I feel...oh and pikes as well. This is assuming this combat is aboard ship.

But ninjas don't use samurai swords, those are samurai. Ninjas use the ninja variations, which are usually straight and shorter than the samurai equivalent. Likely, they'll be using more of a wakizashi (short sword) or perhaps a tanto (dagger). Still, pirates rule.
Saipea
16-08-2005, 06:42
Why the fuck is it so close?! And why are ninjas losing at this point?!

This is totally a non-issue! Ninjas are so much cooler:
1. Ninjas have better clothes
2. Ninjas have much cooler weapons
3. Ninjas are better fighters
4. Ninjas are silent assassins!

And Maddox is an obnoxious moderate who lacks any original ideas. i.e. He's the type of person I complain about when I bitch about people who get praised for ideas that I've come up with before him at a much younger age.

Ninjas have real ultimate power, bitches.
Valosia
16-08-2005, 06:47
Ninjas need stealth because they suck. And ninjas are not better fighters. Pirates would just tackle the ninja. Pirates are bigger than ninjas typically.
Saipea
16-08-2005, 06:49
But ninjas don't use samurai swords, those are samurai. Ninjas use the ninja variations, which are usually straight and shorter than the samurai equivalent. Likely, they'll be using more of a wakizashi (short sword) or perhaps a tanto (dagger). Still, pirates rule.

They also use chi, katanas, clawed weapons, shuriken, poison darts, sais, etc. Pirates don't stand a chance against stealth. Stupid scurvy ridden toothless unchivalrous buttfuckers (I mean the pirates, not you).
Saipea
16-08-2005, 06:53
Ninjas need stealth because they suck. And ninjas are not better fighters. Pirates would just tackle the ninja. Pirates are bigger than ninjas typically.

Are you saying some old sea salt can take on a master of martial arts? What the hell does size have to do with anything!? You know nothing about fighting, let alone about pirates or ninjas.

Even the most fit of pirates aren't up to task to fighting with professional assassins; they only prey on the weak and defenseless on the vast expanse of the ocean.
Magick Isles
16-08-2005, 06:55
Even the most fit of pirates aren't up to task to fighting with professional assassins; they only prey on the weak and defenseless on the vast expanse of the ocean.

This is a misconception, as privateers often battled Naval vessels. These vessals would be armed with a good amount of cannons and men, and would oft be slaughtered by the pirates.
Keruvalia
16-08-2005, 06:59
This thread continues to please me. I have certainly re-examined my stance on Pirates!
Valosia
16-08-2005, 07:00
You know nothing about fighting, let alone about pirates or ninjas.

More ninja propaganda. Blackbeard was fat and drunk and he was wounded 25 times before he was defeated by professional soldiers. Blackbeard could therefore kill 400 ninjas before he would die.
Magick Isles
16-08-2005, 07:03
Stupid scurvy ridden toothless unchivalrous buttfuckers (I mean the pirates, not you).

Actually I do take offense to that, as I'm of pirate blood. You've just insulted my ancestor, good for you. And pirates weren't idiots, they would often keep a good supply of citrus fruits on board to prevent scurvy. They were smarter than many Naval captains were in this matter.
Valosia
16-08-2005, 07:14
Argh, it be a tie. Where be the rest of the pirate crew for votin'? Y'argh.
Saipea
16-08-2005, 07:16
This is a misconception, as privateers often battled Naval vessels. These vessals would be armed with a good amount of cannons and men, and would oft be slaughtered by the pirates.

I see, so we're grouping privateers with pirates now? Then I'd like to group samurais with ninjas now, since apparently noone can tell the difference between those two either.
New Sancrosanctia
16-08-2005, 07:16
Argh, it be a tie. Where be the rest of the pirate crew for votin'? Y'argh.
tie my pasty irish arse.
Magick Isles
16-08-2005, 07:17
Yarr, I bet it be those Ninja enthuists creatin multiple accounts.
Saipea
16-08-2005, 07:19
More ninja propaganda. Blackbeard was fat and drunk and he was wounded 25 times before he was defeated by professional soldiers. Blackbeard could therefore kill 400 ninjas before he would die.

Rasputin was a scrawny little bitch but he still took a lot of pain before he died. Does that mean he could survive even 1 ninja before dying?

That fat fool would get his hand nailed to his leg before he could reach his blunderbuss.

EDIT: Fuck that, that's too generous. He'd get stabbed, poisoned, choked, and skewered before he could even take aim.
New Sancrosanctia
16-08-2005, 07:22
Yarr, I bet it be those Ninja enthuists creatin multiple accounts.
:mad: i am NO MAN'S duplicate account!
Valosia
16-08-2005, 07:24
That fat fool would get his hand nailed to his leg before he could reach his blunderbuss.

He would use his pirate charm to lure the ninjas into a ninja trap. Pirates are excellent on-the-fly thinkers. He could also embarass the ninjas by pointing out their total lack of chicks.
Kjata Major
16-08-2005, 07:48
He would use his pirate charm to lure the ninjas into a ninja trap. Pirates are excellent on-the-fly thinkers. He could also embarass the ninjas by pointing out their total lack of chicks.

Right...Pirates are capable of thinking fast, but Ninjas are capable of performing amazing assassinations.

Simple thing is this: Pirate on a ship = unkillable, Pirate on the shore = dead foo

Ninjas may be the master of stealth and attacks, but even a ninja has limits. They will go days without food or water for a kill. Though on a ship there is no where to run, they are horribly out numbered and wouldn't even try anything.

As for Ninja combat, they have from early ages been specially trained to kill, this includes being able to pop their arm in and out and do otherwise impossible things because the mobility they were trained with. They were trained from birth. Pirates on the otherhand aren't and are smart and careful planners, but here's how it would go down in a show down

Ninja will use high speed and careful movements and superior balance to dodge and avoid any real attack by a pirate. Using poison tipped weapons and small katanna's they can expertly land kills and take down basically everyone except another ninja quickly.

It would the same as a Marine vs a Pro Wrestler (umm real, ultimate fighting guys). A displined fighter and skilled in many forms of combat vs a real fighter. Now the buff wrestler will be a match for anyone usually. Superior balance and strength with control can make for deadly attacks. Though a marine of any size could use superior defensive moves and use pressure-point ands and bring a person to their knees in seconds.

Pirates are menacing and know what to do against others, but a Ninja is something that would be unexpected and they would have no experience for it. Now a Ninja would have no real idea what a pirate was like, but still would know how to take down an enemy with a one shot gun and a scabbard and sword.

(Guns did exist back with ninjas and yes they know how to dodge them by looking at the gun and its position and can effectively dodge that ONE bullet the pirate pistols normally had)
Saipea
16-08-2005, 07:51
pointing out their total lack of chicks.

Raping them doesn't count, I'm afraid. :p
Egg and chips
16-08-2005, 08:19
How has nobody mentioned Chris the Ninja Pirate?

He pwns both.

If you don't know who he is, go watch weebl and bob.
Mind Sickness
17-08-2005, 18:53
Tag

This poll must continue
Eight Nunns Moore Road
17-08-2005, 19:04
I see, so we're grouping privateers with pirates now? Then I'd like to group samurais with ninjas now, since apparently noone can tell the difference between those two either.

Oh come on. The only difference between privateers and pirates was government sanctioning. Samurai and Ninjas differed in terms of that, methods used and what their basic function was.

It's tricky, though. Both gain massive kudos for developing systems of government outside the states to which they were,born, and of course for f*cking people up generally.
East Canuck
17-08-2005, 19:20
I feel you all have forgotten an important fact:

Pirates don't die from a wound like Ninja do.

If you throw even so much as a swing in the direction of an ennemy ninja, he falls to the floor, dead. Only the main ennemy Ninja is worth a decent fight.

Whereas pirates don't die. They get stabbed, cut, hanged... the works. At worst, they'll have a wooden leg. Maybe a cut hand that will be replaced by a hook.

That's why Pirates are much cooler than Ninjas. And a better carrer choice, to boot.
Jenrak
17-08-2005, 20:21
Watch Iron Monkey.

And you will agree that ninjas pwn all.

Right now, it is tied.
Allthenamesarereserved
17-08-2005, 23:49
OOOH dead even. 96 votes for Pirates, 96 votes for ninjas. I would have thought ninjas would own pirates!
Jenrak
18-08-2005, 02:45
I feel you all have forgotten an important fact:

Pirates don't die from a wound like Ninja do.

If you throw even so much as a swing in the direction of an ennemy ninja, he falls to the floor, dead. Only the main ennemy Ninja is worth a decent fight.

Whereas pirates don't die. They get stabbed, cut, hanged... the works. At worst, they'll have a wooden leg. Maybe a cut hand that will be replaced by a hook.

That's why Pirates are much cooler than Ninjas. And a better carrer choice, to boot.

Can pirates fly? I doubt it. Ninjas can also run on wooden stalks and climb up walls. Let's see pirates do that.
Yupaenu
18-08-2005, 04:09
Okie ... final showdown time ...

Which is it to be?

Ultimately, which is cooler? Pirates or Ninjas?

I'm goin' with ninjas because anything made ninja is super cool. Gerbils? Meh ... they're fun and all ... but NINJA GERBILS! Now *that's* cool.

Pirates are funnier, hands down. There's a lot of comedy surrounding a pegleg and a parrot. But Ninjas top the cool meter.

Now ... Pirate Ninjas ... zowie ....
i don't like either of their modern thoughts about them, but the actual history of both was very neat.
Anastamber
20-08-2005, 14:53
Morally, I'm not sure we can categorize either assassins who skulked around, murdering people (sometimes for pay, sometimes for political loyalty) or corsairs who skulked around (nautically), murdering people, sometime for pay, sometimes for political loyalty, as cool. Wouldn't want my daughter dating either, really.

As far as who is more deadly, we're comparing apples & oranges. Pirate actions were historically more naval landing actions (kind of, but almost completely unlike the scene from Pirates of the Caribbean) than naval boarding actions (i.e. lots of Errol Flynn Sr. films). English, Spanish & French privateers were slightly more likely to prey on each others ships, but this was more to establish naval predominance in the Atlantic than for straight 'booty.'

Ninja originally were a collection of samurai families (the most consistent number I can find scholastically is 3) that fell into disgrace and became ronin. They fled to more outlying regions of Japan (the Iga province in particular) and took up farming. In order to improve the family fortunes, they combined the fighting skills learned as samurai with the hunting/stealth/outdoorsy skills of the rural dweller and parlayed the combo into a spy outsourcing franchise for the always competing warlords. Over time, some daimyos found it advantageous to develop their own elite spy/assassin corps, more accurately known as shinobi.

Who's deadlier? The last thing a ninja wanted was a stand up, knock down fight. A spy who is discovered spying has massively devalued whatever information they have discovered. An assassin who is discovered has lost their major advantage, stealth and secrecy. Most of the weapons and gear of the ninja were designed for distraction, infiltration and escape. (You don’t want to stick throwing stars in people. Unless you poison them they’ll hardly kill anybody & then you’ve just given your target a cool ranged weapon to throw back at you. If you do poison the shuriken you stood a good chance of poisoning yourself, which creates a whole new set of problems. The proper use of shuriken was to inflict a slashing wound to discourage pursuit & make the other guy decide you weren’t worth the risk.) The martial art of 'ninjitsu' (which, despite all the books, is mostly speculative with few historical sources) SEEMS to have focused on escape and knock-down moves, so the ninja could then escape (run away).

The last thing the pirate wanted was a stand up knock down fight. A freebooter (actually a badly anglicized Dutch word) facing a trained soldier/marine had a good chance of being killed or wounded and being unable to enjoy any plunder. A seadog engaging in a bit of speculative naval boarding was still limited to whatever profit was contained in the ship's hull (and while in the case of a Spanish Treasure Fleet Galleon, that was a lot of gold, an individual pirate's share was piteously small, considering the risk involved in taking it; the average pirate's life was "nasty, brutish & short", as well as actually fairly poor). People became pirates not because they wanted to board a British Frigate by swinging from ropes while trading broadsides but because they wanted to make money. From a risk/profit standpoint pirates wanted to hit lightly defended/economically developed targets; this is why today you see modern pirates hitting oil tankers instead of U.S. Navy cruisers.

As a point of historical interest, Oriental pirates, called Wako, were considered more viscous and deadly than Occidental pirates. Some think this is because if caught, they were put to death in more imaginative and painful ways than the “quick drop & a sudden stop” of hanging.

Who is the coolest? The scholar, we get to work in air conditioning. Who is the most deadly? The historian, able to deflate the inflated myth with the cold point of intellectualism.

The Pen Is Mightier Than The Sword (if the pen is very long & the sword is rather dull. But swords are more fun.)
Potaria
20-08-2005, 15:42
While you can't really compare Ninjas and Pirates, there is one class that kicks all their asses...

...The Vikings.
Mekonia
20-08-2005, 16:12
Depends Johnny Depp tyre pirates are def cooler but anything else and the ninjas win
Valosia
20-08-2005, 16:38
The Vikings

Vikings are the direct ancestors of pirates. I saw it on a chart somewhere.
Anastamber
03-09-2005, 19:31
Vikings are the direct ancestors of pirates. I saw it on a chart somewhere.
Vikings are the ancestors of pirates only in the marauding seaborne bandit sense. Viking, by the way, is a verb, not a noun. The Norse would go viking (pronounced wiking, with a long I) during the summer months while the crops were growing to supplement their income, prove their manliness and avoid boredom. The viking raids turned into settlement diasporas as far as Nova Scotia and the interior of Russia. In fact, Russia itself derives its name from one of the Norse clans which came to dominate the area, the Rus. Piracy continues into the modern day. The International Chamber of Commerce runs the International Maritime Board which collects statistics and reports worldwide of piracy. They can be found at www.iccwbo.org. Another good source in Jim Dunnigan’s site www.strategypage.com.
Anime Fandom X
03-09-2005, 21:17
Arguably, Vikings are the ORIGINAL pirates. sorry if someone already said that.
I get my perception of ninjas from movies, anime and video games. I get my perceptions of pirates from movies, anime and video games. I'm afraid that despite the pirate's valuable contribution in the fight against global warming, i'm going with ninjas. Big flashy colourful ribbons and swords that cut all sorts of crap in half win it for me everytime.
Cpt_Cody
04-09-2005, 02:07
*Ninja does a whole bunch of fancy moves to try and scare the Pirate*

*Pirate shoots Ninja with his brace of pistols*

Pirate for teh win! :D :D :D
Anastamber
04-09-2005, 15:35
*Ninja does a whole bunch of fancy moves to try and scare the Pirate*

*Pirate shoots Ninja with his brace of pistols*

Pirate for teh win! :D :D :D

Reminds me of the scene from Disney's otherwise forgettable Three Musketeers movie when the Musketeers are stopping the Lady du Winter from boarding her ship & Porthos dumps the token oriental guy into the hold with a flip of the hatch latch. Or the Raiders of the Lost Ark scene where Harrison Ford was too sick to do the planned bazaar fight scene so they decided to shoot the cool swordsman instead.

What we've really broken this argument down to isn't pirates vs. ninja, it's swashbuckling vs. martial arts. Depends on if you like wearing cool hats or just want to go with basic black.

If we include the stereotypical image of Vikings (I know, verb, not noun) then we can make it a three way swashbuckling vs. martial arts vs. barbarian fight. Hmm, with Don King promoting we have a pretty good Pay-Per-View event going here.
Tocoric
04-09-2005, 15:48
Being a Pirate is way more fun, but being a Ninga would be way cooler.
Plainwell Nation
04-09-2005, 16:03
Ninjas. I'm about to start a classic japanese ninjutsu class and take my first steps toward being a ninja :)
Monotonous
04-09-2005, 16:18
Vikings win. They're like pirates, but better. And they have BATTLEAXES! Go axes!
Anastamber
04-09-2005, 16:26
Arguably, Vikings are the ORIGINAL pirates. sorry if someone already said that.
I get my perception of ninjas from movies, anime and video games. I get my perceptions of pirates from movies, anime and video games. I'm afraid that despite the pirate's valuable contribution in the fight against global warming, i'm going with ninjas. Big flashy colourful ribbons and swords that cut all sorts of crap in half win it for me everytime.
The original pirates are lost way back in the mists of history, but certainly predate the Vikings. Piracy probably began shortly after humanity learned to build floating vessels.

“Hmm, Throg have boat. Thag have boat. If Throg take Thag boat, Throg have two boats.” (Throg hits Thag on head.) “Hmm, Thib have boat too...”

I admit I don’t get the “pirate's valuable contribution in the fight against global warming” comment. Could you clarify?
Danmarc
04-09-2005, 23:39
I am gonna have to agree with Anastamber on this one. Piracy has gone on since humans were able to start floating, long before the Vikings started their quest (although a Viking vs Pirate vs Ninja debate opens a whole new door) Clearly Pirates are hard working, entrepreneurs, that have been overachieving for centuries, and deserve your votes. VOTE PIRATE IN '05......

This message was a paid advertisement from the local Pirate 535, bringing you piracy since the begining of time. The Pirates union has approved this ad.
Anastamber
15-09-2005, 03:15
For the ultimate definition of cool, go to:

http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/nodwick/gamespyarchive/gspynod176.html
New Morporkia
15-09-2005, 03:24
Awsome, my vote tied it up...

Ninjas 4 life!

Or something...
Grathik
15-09-2005, 03:32
The pirate is much better than the Ninja. . .Can a ninja stand off shore on a comandeered Galleon and fire off a volley of cannonballs at a town? Completely destroying it? If you ask me, a city of Ninjas against a pirate ship, the Pirates would win :) Besides, what ninja has the most known saying of "Yarr ye scurvy landlobbers! I's be pillaging ye land! Yarr!"
My Vote : Pirates
Jtnibbles
15-09-2005, 18:29
1) What would you prefer to do stand on a stick for hours going "HUMMMMMM" or sit round getting pissed and playing cards, real hard choose? ( I know I am being stereotypical")

2) You only get real Ninjas in the "east", you get pirates all over the World (because its easier and better). The pirates sphere of influence is much lager.
Spacestate
15-09-2005, 20:35
My vote goes for the nonexistant choice: Ninjas and pirates are both boring.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-09-2005, 20:44
Pirates. Much cooler.
Privateering in the name of the King or Queen. Then keeping it all anyway.
Evil little girls
15-09-2005, 20:51
Everyone is so stupid
It's CHRIS THE NINJA PIRATE!!!!
(www.weebl.jolt.co.uk)
If I really have to choose, it's pirates
I mean "ARR mates, 'tis a fine day to be sure"
"Avast ye, landlubber"
"Yarr"
"Arr"
"Narr"
"Aharr"
"Yaharr"
the list goes on
Utracia
15-09-2005, 22:05
Everyone is so stupid
It's CHRIS THE NINJA PIRATE!!!!
(www.weebl.jolt.co.uk)
If I really have to choose, it's pirates
I mean "ARR mates, 'tis a fine day to be sure"
"Avast ye, landlubber"
"Yarr"
"Arr"
"Narr"
"Aharr"
"Yaharr"
the list goes on

Pirates are just rednecks of the sea never getting a proper education so as a result they can barely speak English. Ninjas I feel would be much smarter than your average pirate.
Squornshelous
15-09-2005, 22:09
that's crazy, its tied!
Legless Pirates
15-09-2005, 22:09
Holy smokes 129-128 for the pirates
Utracia
15-09-2005, 22:12
Afraid ninjas have the lead again. :)
Legless Pirates
15-09-2005, 22:15
Boooo! Ninjas are teh SuX0rZ
Keruvalia
15-09-2005, 22:26
Certainly has been a close battle! I mean ... dang .... I guess they're both cool. :D
Anastamber
17-09-2005, 13:14
Just a note to ya'll: Remember that 19 September is "National Talk Like A Pirate Day." And for all ya'll ninja lovers, feel free to dress in black and sneak around the night before.
Jenrak
17-09-2005, 15:29
Tis' in two days!
Passivocalia
17-09-2005, 16:31
Well, sure, a ninja could beat a pirate in one on one, but that's not how pirates play.

Ninjas can assassinate rival political figures. Pirates can kidnap rival political figures and ransom them for profit!

You hire a ninja to do something sneaky and stealthy against your enemy, and you can never really trust him. You hire a pirate to devastate an enemy's economy, and you pay him with whatever swag he picks up on the enemy's hold.

Ninjas are completely land-bound. Pirates sail the waves AND make amphibious assaults.

Ninjas are relics of the past, glorified through karate classes and fighting movies. Pirates have made the fateful step into the 21st century, taking up automatic weapons and/or stealing goods online.

When a ninja looses an arm, leg, eye, or anything, that's it. Retirement. In contrast, a pirate actually functions BETTER with an artificial limb or two. They'd be for disability rights.

For all we know, ninjas want to tear down the rainforests and kill all endangered species. We know this to not be true with pirates, who keep festive parrots about.

Gather all the ninjas in the world, and they'll end up killing each other. Gather all the pirates in the world, and they'll only kill a few of each other before drinking and partying together. Then they would gather their fleets and shell Japan until all the ninjas surrendered.
Charlen
17-09-2005, 16:55
It's all about pirates. They get the awesome ship, anything can be a weapon, they certainly get the better pay-off for completing their job, they don't just give up and die for something as silly as a limb being blown off, and they're just as good on land or in the ocean. Lure a pirate on land and give him a less confined space. Lure a ninja into the ocean and watch him drown. Pirates also get cool pets, most commonly parrots and monkeys.
Anastamber
19-09-2005, 12:51
Arrgh! It be National Talk Like a Pirate Day!
Arizona Nova
19-09-2005, 14:32
Aye, that it be, matey. Also be the day of me nation's second birthday! Arrrrrrrrr...
Sonaj
19-09-2005, 15:26
Arr, tha's grreat, cap'n. This be great day for all pirates, arr.
Valosia
19-09-2005, 15:56
Avast, ye mangy sea dogs! Raise the sails and set for adventure!
Luporum
19-09-2005, 16:06
Ninjas are WAY cooler than pirates. I mean priates dress like a bunch of girls going to the prom not scurvey seadogs.

Also pirates have to pick on small civilian ships otherwise the military steps in and starts killing the bastards left and right. Ninjas on the otherhand dress to kill and rarely get caught.

Let's see what a conversation would look like...

Pirate: "Yarg ye shouldn't amess wit the greatest pirate e'vr known. Ayarg!"
Ninja: "..."
Pirate: "Ah nothin to say yeah scurvey ridden wash moneky!"
Ninja: "..." Throws a ninja star in the pirates' one good eye
Pirate: "Yarg! The orientals be a harsh mistress." chugs down some ale
Laerod
19-09-2005, 16:23
My vote goes for the pirates.

Ninjas were limited pretty much to Japan, whilst pirates were everywhere.
Piracy was it's own lifestyle. It was the struggle of a democratic, freedomloving system against the evil oppression of the establishment (navies).
And there's a lot more pirate stories than there are ninja stories.
'nuff said.
Luporum
19-09-2005, 16:29
My vote goes for the pirates.

It was the struggle of a democratic, freedomloving system against the evil oppression of the establishment (navies).

What? You might have to retype that I think there's something retarded blocking my screen.

Piracy was about raping, plundering, and wearing makeup with trendy clothes. There was nothing freeloving about piracy except for the forecful love they put on captured females. Pirates were nothing more than thugs and bandits who took advantage of the lawless sea. Not rockstars.
Laerod
19-09-2005, 16:38
What? You might have to retype that I think there's something retarded blocking my screen.

Piracy was about raping, plundering, and wearing makeup with trendy clothes. There was nothing freeloving about piracy except for the forecful love they put on captured females. Pirates were nothing more than thugs and bandits who took advantage of the lawless sea. Not rockstars.
Wrong. Many pirate ships were navy ships that "went pirate" due to the harsh conditions and resentment towards the captain. They mutinied and elected their own captain. The former was a totalitarian government. Ever heard of "Captain's word is law"? That was taken literally, with corporeal punishment and death doled out at the captain's whim. Pirate ships were based on the principle of an elected government, and pirate captains could get voted out of office. There were articles on pretty much every ship that regulated what the captain and crew could and could not do, with the crew being entitled to the captain's supply of rum and entering his private cabin to swear at him (though this rarely happened).
Now there are plenty of other reasons why someone would turn pirate, but in the end, pretty much all pirate ships were ruled on the principles of democracy. Pirates hated slavery, btw. They'd go out of their way to free slaves from slaver ships.
So while they were murdering bastards, they were freedom-loving murdering bastards, and the first example of democracy in the Americas.
Luporum
19-09-2005, 16:44
So while they were murdering bastards, they were freedom-loving murdering bastards, and the first example of democracy in the Americas.

So because they demonstrated democracy and had a formerly oppressive life that makes it ok for them to terrorize civilian ships?

I think Julius Caeser had the right idea after being ransomed by pirates. He paid them, hunted them down, and crucified the lot of them.
Laerod
19-09-2005, 16:46
So because they demonstrated democracy and had a formerly oppressive life that makes it ok for them to terrorize civilian ships?

I think Julius Caeser had the right idea after being ransomed by pirates. He paid them, hunted them down, and crucified the lot of them.This is a debate on whether ninjas or pirates are cooler. I'm pointing out the cool parts of pirates compared to ninjas. Ninjas don't compare to pirates. Don't take this debate where it wasn't meant to be, please.
East Canuck
19-09-2005, 16:50
Shiver me timbers! The pirates are making a comeback against those wee landlubbers all dressed in black!

Come on, you scurvy dogs! We can do it!
Valosia
19-09-2005, 17:09
Aye, lads! Ninjas be nothin' but sneaky! Let us all drink to intoxication and gut the lot o' them!
Frangland
19-09-2005, 17:15
thus far there've been 286 votes... and only two votes separate the ninjas and the pirates.

amazingly close, the closest vote i've ever seen (minimum 100 votes)
Luporum
19-09-2005, 17:17
This is a debate on whether ninjas or pirates are cooler. I'm pointing out the cool parts of pirates compared to ninjas. Ninjas don't compare to pirates. Don't take this debate where it wasn't meant to be, please.

I'm just stating what I think makes them uncool. Hell if anyone murdered innocent people and made it cool it was the damn vikings.

Ninjas are cold blooded, professional killers, meant to strike fear in the hearts of their victims.

Down with Pirates!
Baumert Lane
19-09-2005, 17:19
Avast ye scurvy dogs! Pirates be far cooler than ninjas! But pirates vs. vikings? Now there's a dilemma, e'en on International Talk Like A Pirate Day (http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html)! Arrgh!
Laerod
19-09-2005, 17:20
Ninjas are cold blooded, professional killers, meant to strike fear in the hearts of their victims.You know that Black Beard used intimidation tactics for the purpose of not having to kill as many people? He developed a nasty reputation in order to get ships to surrender without a fight to avoid bloodshed. ;)
Kakkalo
19-09-2005, 17:21
well you see... pirates and ninjas are actually the same. they just want you to think they're different!!!
Luporum
19-09-2005, 17:24
You know that Black Beard used intimidation tactics for the purpose of not having to kill as many people? He developed a nasty reputation in order to get ships to surrender without a fight to avoid bloodshed. ;)

I wonder how he maintained that reputation while avoiding bloodshed. I mean eventually people who ran into him would say: "Yeah he just took our stuff and left, some pirate."

Intimidation is a pair of white eyes stalking you through the night.
Kakkalo
19-09-2005, 17:32
well you see... pirates and ninjas are actually the same. they just want you to think they're different!!!

well you see, this obviously proves that you are correct!!!!!

http://someoneelseseyes.net/pirates_and_ninjas_are_the_same.gif
Luporum
19-09-2005, 17:35
well you see, this obviously proves that you are correct!!!!!

http://someoneelseseyes.net/pirates_and_ninjas_are_the_same.gif

Did you just quote yourself and refer to yourself in the second person?
<Slowly starts walking away>

Ha! Even on the Pirate's holy day they can't take the popularity cake from the ninja. <Puts on Ninja outfit>
Kakkalo
19-09-2005, 17:36
Did you just quote yourself and refer to yourself in the second person?
<Slowly starts walking away>

Ha! Even on the Pirate's holy day they can't take the popularity cake from the ninja. <Puts on Ninja outfit>

Arr, 'tis a hard life at sea. Sometimes I get a little bit lonely...

....just a little......
Laerod
19-09-2005, 17:40
I wonder how he maintained that reputation while avoiding bloodshed. I mean eventually people who ran into him would say: "Yeah he just took our stuff and left, some pirate."

Intimidation is a pair of white eyes stalking you through the night.Or a beard with burning sticks stuck in it. The ones that did resist tended not to survive much (though he'd leave enough to tell the tale). It's essentially mongol tactics. You build a reputation by being abominably cruel to those that resist and not harming those that don't. It gives an incentive for people not to put up a fight.
Laerod
19-09-2005, 17:42
The pirates arrrr in the lead!
Luporum
19-09-2005, 17:44
Or a beard with burning sticks stuck in it. The ones that did resist tended not to survive much (though he'd leave enough to tell the tale). It's essentially mongol tactics. You build a reputation by being abominably cruel to those that resist and not harming those that don't. It gives an incentive for people not to put up a fight.

Putting a burning torch in your beard sounds like it belongs in a Curious George book. Curious George and the Facial Burn Ward

I guess that would work, I prefer the Ninja tactic: There's the guy, kill the guy, flee and get paid.
Frangland
19-09-2005, 17:45
punchline of a joke:

"ARRRRR, it's drivin' me nuts!"
Luporum
19-09-2005, 17:47
Come on you black-clad assasins get out and vote!
Amyst
19-09-2005, 18:47
The idea of the pirate-ninja (ninja-pirate, whichever) is a horrid abomination akin to the vampire-werewolf or the Beatle-Rolling Stone. Both sides would hunt down and kill that monstrosity.
The Tempest plains
19-09-2005, 19:05
Ahh the great debate that has haunted many a man over the years.

Pirates for ever!
New Burmesia
19-09-2005, 19:24
Ahh the great debate that has haunted many a man over the years.

Pirates for ever!

Boo! Hiss!

*Throws wet sponge*
Luporum
19-09-2005, 19:26
Boo! Hiss!

*Throws a ninja star*

Much better I'd say ;)
East Canuck
19-09-2005, 19:28
Boo! Hiss!

*Throws wet sponge*
Jolly good, my faithfull seadog!

Evr'y scabbers should throw wet sponges on these landlubbers who don't speak the proper tongue on this fine day. It's International Talk Like a Pirate day.

The Tempest plains should be made to visit Davey Jone's locker if ye ask me.
Valosia
28-09-2005, 07:55
Argh, ye dawgs, the pirates be losing! Ye all know a real man stands up to his enemies, most likely drunk on brandy or rum! Set a course for victory!
Bryce Crusader States
28-09-2005, 08:00
Pirates are definately cooler than Ninja's what with all the buried treasure and burning and pillaging. So Cool.
Shinano
28-09-2005, 08:12
Pfft...pirates are undisciplined drunkards. Ninjas, on the other hand, are possessed of unbeatable physical discipline and training in the masterful ninjutsu.

Ninjas > Pirates.

I remember last year for the unofficial pirates v. ninjas day, I only found one pirate. Needless to say, he did not last long :p .
Heikes
30-09-2005, 22:42
R u serious? Ninjas hands down. I admit that pirates are pretty cool but theyre not even as cool samurai or robots and we all know that a nija could take either of them. I argued about this for an entire 90 minute class period and i was right so there. i even used a mathematical equation that proved that one ninja was equal to or greater that 9 pirates. Im sorry but one ninja could prolly take 10 pirates by himself.
The blessed Chris
30-09-2005, 22:51
Pirates quite evidently, or possiblythe Spanish Inquisition, however in this context, Pirates, they portray human nature very well, and are rather damn cool.
The blessed Chris
30-09-2005, 22:52
R u serious? Ninjas hands down. I admit that pirates are pretty cool but theyre not even as cool samurai or robots and we all know that a nija could take either of them. I argued about this for an entire 90 minute class period and i was right so there. i even used a mathematical equation that proved that one ninja was equal to or greater that 9 pirates. Im sorry but one ninja could prolly take 10 pirates by himself.

Not if the pirates blew his fucking head off with a cannon :p
THAPOAB
30-09-2005, 22:52
Pirates kick ass

They might not be noble or follow some stupid code, but if you get congress to authorize you, you can be a privateer and pirate legally!



The only thing as cool as a pirate is a knight, or possibly a freelance cowboy (which is like a newage knight with a gun)
Heikes
30-09-2005, 22:59
Not if the pirates blew his fucking head off with a cannon :p

Thats the thing even if the pirate had a chance to load or shoot his cannon the ninja would dodge it or use it to kill the pirate then he would choose an exceptionally messy weapon to finish the pirate off. Most likely the pirate would be dead before he threw down his ale.
The blessed Chris
30-09-2005, 23:00
Thats the thing even if the pirate had a chance to load or shoot his cannon the ninja would dodge it or use it to kill the pirate then he would choose an exceptionally messy weapon to finish the pirate off. Most likely the pirate would be dead before he threw down his ale.

they also have pistols

and parrots
Heikes
30-09-2005, 23:04
they also have pistols

and parrots

the same goes with pistols as cannons they wouldnt help


i dont think the ninja would have a problem killing the parrot
Jenrak
30-09-2005, 23:31
You must factor in mass versus power. If the mass is exceeding the power per hit, then the ninja wins (more bodies hit per slice), but if you are taking on more mass per power, then the pirate wins (more pirates)
BistroLand
01-10-2005, 00:03
Pirates are smelly, teeth missing, ugly, homosexuals.

Ninjas always win!!!!!!! :)