NationStates Jolt Archive


How come..

Neo Kervoskia
13-08-2005, 21:23
when someone dies you're supposed to say good things about them as opposed to the way they actually were?
Spartiala
13-08-2005, 21:28
Good point: funerals would be MUCH more entertaining if we were allowed to complain about the stupid things the recently deceaced had done. You can't offend a corpse, so why be so careful not to? Also, if you had anything nice to say to the person, you should have said it when they were still alive and could appreciate the comment; once their dead you may as well just make fun of them.
Eichen
13-08-2005, 21:29
when someone dies you're supposed to say good things about them as opposed to the way they actually were?
I assume it's because unless you were a siant, you hope people won't be talking about what a douchebag you could be before you died.
Ashmoria
13-08-2005, 21:31
because you dont want to add to the grief of the dead guys loved ones. he is now beyond your ability to diss him. his grieving family is not and doesnt deserve the hurt you would bring to them.
Evil Arch Conservative
13-08-2005, 21:31
It's what we'd want them to do for us, I suppose. I never really thought about it.

If someone is trying to force you to say something good about a person you disliked, just say that it's good that the person is dead.
The Czardaian envoy
13-08-2005, 21:34
It's polite. If you were dead, you wouldn't very well want everyone to remember you as the asshole you were in life, would you? (Not that you were an asshole in real life, although I have my suspicions.... ;))
Neo Kervoskia
13-08-2005, 21:37
It's polite. If you were dead, you wouldn't very well want everyone to remember you as the asshole you were in life, would you? (Not that you were an asshole in real life, although I have my suspicions.... ;))
But I am an asshole and I want people to remember me for what I am, not a bunch of happy memories while disregarding the bad ones. If he was a joker, tell the crowd that. If was a drunk, say that. Tell the truth in my opinion.
JuNii
13-08-2005, 21:38
when someone dies you're supposed to say good things about them as opposed to the way they actually were?for the people who love the person who died, it helps them emotionally to know that he/she was a good person and how that person touched other people's lives.

You're not Forced to say good things, heck if you want, you can dig out every skeleton you know about that person.

of course, you'll have the image of being a worse scumbag for insulting someone who cannot retort.

but that will only be their perception of you.
Tradberg
13-08-2005, 21:40
There are plenty of funerals around the world where they don't glorify the dead one. We just have that tradition...
Gartref
13-08-2005, 21:42
I saw an insane rant about this very subject about a year ago. Quite entertaining. Is it legal around here to post a link to a thread from an outside forum? I think some of you might enjoy it.


http://www.dropshipcommand.com/forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=25&topic_id=20953&mesg_id=20953&page=16
Harlesburg
13-08-2005, 21:43
It's polite. If you were dead, you wouldn't very well want everyone to remember you as the asshole you were in life, would you? (Not that you were an asshole in real life, although I have my suspicions.... ;))
Maybe you dont know but i do!







Its polite but with the Liberal Revolution who knows....
Sydenzia
13-08-2005, 21:44
1. Because the people left behind are already suffering enough.
2. Because the person cannot defend themselves against your allegations.
Lord-General Drache
13-08-2005, 21:45
It's polite. If you were dead, you wouldn't very well want everyone to remember you as the asshole you were in life, would you? (Not that you were an asshole in real life, although I have my suspicions.... ;))


...How the hell else are they gonna remember me? Even my friends call me an ass..lol. I enjoy it.

Really, I think it's ridiculous. People wrap themselves up in these bubbles of denial in times of emotional hardship, imo, so they can try and be happier. They don't want to hear the full, unbiased truth about anyone, especially after they're dead, and they "can't defend themselves".
Helioterra
13-08-2005, 21:46
But I am an asshole and I want people to remember me for what I am, not a bunch of happy memories while disregarding the bad ones. If he was a joker, tell the crowd that. If was a drunk, say that. Tell the truth in my opinion.
Don't you think that the crowd knows that? Why upset people who are already (maybe) suffering? Does it make you feel better? If you don't have anything nice to say just stay quiet. If you loathe the person, just don't go to the funerals.
Neo Kervoskia
13-08-2005, 21:47
1. Because the people left behind are already suffering enough.
2. Because the person cannot defend themselves against your allegations.
So they shouldn't hear the whole character of a person because of their emotions? :confused:
Sydenzia
13-08-2005, 21:49
So they shouldn't hear the whole character of a person because of their emotions? :confused:They shouldn't be kicked while they're down. If they wanted to hear every unsavory detail about the dead person, I'm sure they would ask. Otherwise, suffice it to say they don't need to. There's no real need to express it at a funeral, either.
Neo Kervoskia
13-08-2005, 21:50
They shouldn't be kicked while they're down. If they wanted to hear every unsavory detail about the dead person, I'm sure they would ask. Otherwise, suffice it to say they don't need to. There's no real need to express it at a funeral, either.
I don't think you should say "I hate that motherfucker, I'm glad he's dead!", I am just wondering why you usually have to say only good things, it seems like it's denial.
Liverbreath
13-08-2005, 21:51
when someone dies you're supposed to say good things about them as opposed to the way they actually were?

It is simply part of the hypocracy built into our society. Within most, there is a desire to be seen in a positive light when we check out. By saying good things about others, it is hoped that it will be returned when our time comes. Personally, I'd never attend a funeral or associate with someone I couldn't say anything good about (and mean it), dead or alive, so it really is not an issue by my way of thinking.
Fass
13-08-2005, 21:52
I am just wondering why you usually have to say only good things, it seems like it's denial.

It's called "respect". Anything else would just be funeral trolling.
Neo Kervoskia
13-08-2005, 22:06
It's called "respect". Anything else would just be funeral trolling.
I see. *ponders*