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i was just talking to a girlfriend and she was telling me about hitting a guy the other night and he hit back, i then was going to tell her that he was a prick and so on but then it hit me, why should females be allowed to hit males without thinking they would be hit back? any opinions?

because male chauvanist pigs like me deserve to be hit. Of course, there is that unsavoury element that enjoys it.... *shudders*

Can't speak for all, but some women think it's okay to hit guys precisely because they believe guys won't hit back.

Why do women think it is ok to hit guys???

Women don't think that at all.

I don't know, I never hit a guy ever since I was 10 years old. Being just kids, nobody thought anything about him hitting back, I would have been surprised if he hadn't.

Because women "are too weak to hurt you". The last time I heard something like that was before I went to the hospital for stitches after my little sister hit me... :p

Because, for the most part, if a girl hits you it's not going to hurt.

Women don't think that at all.
im sorry i have to disagree with you there, you may not think that but i meet lots of people that do.

Because, for the most part, if a girl hits you it's not going to hurt.
heh, great timing...

Because, for the most part, if a girl hits you it's not going to hurt.
you need to meet a friend of mine, she hit me and i was in hospital for two days getting x-rayed and stuff, hurt for about a month.

im sorry i have to disagree with you there, you may not think that but i meet lots of people that do.

Still does not mean that "women" think anything.

im sorry i have to disagree with you there, you may not think that but i meet lots of people that do.
And how old are they? (I just thought it could be an age thing)

Don't generalize. I am a woman and assault is not ok, male or female.

If a woman raises her hands to a man, she should expect him to defend himself and/or to be arrested.

If a man raises his hands to a woman, he should expect her to defend herself and/or to be arrested.

My ex-g/f was play-boxing with me the other day, and jabbed me in the lower lip *hard.* I was bleeding out of my mouth like some cheezy '70s action flick.

And how old are they? (I just thought it could be an age thing)
i have had women of up to 40 hit me.

Don't generalize. I am a woman and assault is not ok, male or female.
im not genaralizing here the opinion is a man never raises hand to women no matter what. and from what i see it is true.

Still does not mean that "women" think anything.
i think you just stated an arguement about how women dont think... lol

Guys, if it makes you feel better, imagine that the thread title includes the word "some" or "certain." I doubt he meant to claim that all women think it's okay to hit guys.

Guys, if it makes you feel better, imagine that the thread title includes the word "some" or "certain." I doubt he meant to claim that all women think it's okay to hit guys.
no i didnt mean all, i mean the nasty majority from round here.

i think you just stated an arguement about how women dont think... lol

Grow up. You know very well what I was referring to.

you need to meet a friend of mine, she hit me and i was in hospital for two days getting x-rayed and stuff, hurt for about a month.
Well, I'm generalizing of course. If George Foreman's daughter (whose name I forget) hit me, then she might very well kill me. And I doubt girls who hit you in a manner that would put you in the hospital think that what they are doing is ok.

i have had women of up to 40 hit me.


ok, there are assholes in both genders.

no i didnt mean all, i mean the nasty majority from round here.
You should move

maybe the question should be "why are you hanging out with violent women?"

in the same way i would advise a woman whose man has hit her to walk away from him, i would advise any man whose woman thinks its OK to hit him to break up with her. violence can escalate regardless of gender. take it as a warning and walk away.

maybe the question should be "why are you hanging out with violent women?"
i cant leave i would if i could, but due to family commitments and laws of this country i can't move yet.

Grow up. You know very well what I was referring to.
i know what you're reffering to i was just messing.

Still does not mean that "women" think anything.

Just can't keep from sticking your foot in it, can you?

Anyway, a woman who hits a man should expect to be hit back. Luckily, most men are too polite to do that, but if and when she meets a real jerk....

Hitting is the tactic of someone who is too stupid/ignorant to express themselves in a civilized and constructive way.

Just can't keep from sticking your foot in it, can you?

Sticking my foot in what? Zooke, you're too grown-up for this.

Hitting is the tactic of someone who is too stupid/ignorant to express themselves in a civilized and constructive way.

Somehow I don't see you as a boxing fan. :D

i think i made some of you angry...

well i still think that women here are ignorant cows that deserve to get hit back.

maybe the question should be "why are you hanging out with violent women?"Difficult to do for a 15 year old when it was his younger sister...:D

i think i made some of you angry...

well i still think that women here are ignorant cows that deserve to get hit back.
Find ways to immobilize women without having to hit them. It'll work wonders with with children too.

i think i made some of you angry...

well i still think that women here are ignorant cows that deserve to get hit back.

Please clarify -- that looked an AWFUL lot like you're flaming forum members.

i was just talking to a girlfriend and she was telling me about hitting a guy the other night and he hit back, i then was going to tell her that he was a prick and so on but then it hit me, why should females be allowed to hit males without thinking they would be hit back? any opinions?
This is simple if the female in question asks to be treated equal to a man--and she does anything that if a man did you would hit him for--hit her, just as hard as you would a man and just as fast--that is equality.

I am married, my wife has swung on me--and I have not hit her--only because I love and respect her. Now if I was just in a bar and she was just some women I would not hesistate to smash her skull like a grape.

I am a sexist pig--men and women are not equal on all fronts and until women realize this we should give them what they want.

Dont open that door,
Dont help with what she is carrying
Dont tell her which way to go
Dont open that jar
Dont defend her when she pisses off the wrong person
Dont do anything for her you wouldnt do for one of your Boys.

My wife knows men and women are not equal--she accepts most of my concpets of male and female roles as being very sound and very fair('cept where I say women do not belong in the kitchen, but they really dont)

Women dont want real equal treatment--they want us to be Gentlemen, without them having to be Ladies.

So I say piss on a Modern Women, I am only a Gentlemen towards dignified Ladies, as it should be.



I really hope I offended someone.

Please clarify -- that looked an AWFUL lot like you're flaming forum members.

I think by "here" he meant his physical location, not the forum.

i was just talking to a girlfriend and she was telling me about hitting a guy the other night and he hit back, i then was going to tell her that he was a prick and so on but then it hit me, why should females be allowed to hit males without thinking they would be hit back? any opinions?Because we (men) are conditioned from birth to always respect the 'weaker' sex. thus Hitting a woman is the same as hitting a child. they (women) are seen by us (men) as being weaker so thus it's ok for women to hit men because they are weaker, and at the same time, it's wrong for men to hit women.

and do you know who cultivated that perception? Our mothers. :D

Well, I'm generalizing of course. If George Foreman's daughter (whose name I forget) hit me, then she might very well kill me. And I doubt girls who hit you in a manner that would put you in the hospital think that what they are doing is ok.
My wife dislocated my jaw with a surprise elbow--
And she is still a Lady.

Sticking my foot in what? Zooke, you're too grown-up for this.

Your mouth dear. Me? Grow up?? Never!!! I just pretend for the kiddies.

Most women don't "think" that its ok to hit men, intellectually speaking. Biologically its ok for them because of reproductive strategy. Women have a set maximum birthrate, so they look for the highest quality guys in the area and only try to please them. Men on the other hand have a birthrate limited only by the number of women they have sex with and thus have to keep every woman happy so as to not burn potential bridges. The only time a man is violent to a woman is when he's sure he has no chance or she has proven she will tolerate it.

Why do women think it is ok to hit guys???

Women don't think that at all.
You've never been to highschool, have you? Girls hit guys all the time.

Please clarify -- that looked an AWFUL lot like you're flaming forum members.

i did mean where i was as in here in Scotland in a bad area too, not the forum and not members of the forum. and if i did offend anyone on the forum is is accidental.

Most women don't "think" that its ok to hit men, intellectually speaking. Biologically its ok for them because of reproductive strategy. Women have a set maximum birthrate, so they look for the highest quality guys in the area and only try to please them. Men on the other hand have a birthrate limited only by the number of women they have sex with and thus have to keep every woman happy so as to not burn potential bridges. The only time a man is violent to a woman is when he's sure he has no chance or she has proven she will tolerate it.

Wow... *mouht hangs open* that is genius where did you come up with that?

I really hope I offended someone.
Yes you did. Women usually know much better which way to go! :D

Your mouth dear.

I've said nothing that would have had that effect. My feet are firmly planted on the floor.

Me? Grow up?? Never!!! I just pretend for the kiddies.

So far, you've been feigning it well. Don't stop.

You've never been to highschool, have you? Girls hit guys all the time.
Maybe we Scandinavians know how to behave. I've seen a girl hitting a guy -about 3 times in my life. And they did deserve it.

You've never been to highschool, have you? Girls hit guys all the time.

Seeing as we don't have highschool here, no. I've been to the equivalent upper secondary school, and, no, "women" there weren't particularly violent against men, or anyone else for that matter.

Women hit guys because they don't think we'll hit back.in the name of equality i hit every girl who hits me,just like i'd hit every guy.

If women want the right to vote and that they're going to have to learn to deal with a few bruises now and then.

Wow... *mouht hangs open* that is genius where did you come up with that?

It's just reproductive logic. Same reason women don't watch as much porn.

Maybe we Scandinavians know how to behave. I've seen a girl hitting a guy -about 3 times in my life. And they did deserve it.
Happens all the time here. Might be because alot of female musicians talk about how they could kick a guy's ass (like Avril Lavigne). I guess they never realize that the guy won't fight back.

It's just reproductive logic. Same reason women don't watch as much porn.
that si fair logic, i wouldn't know i don't watch porn it is allegal for me to.

it is allegal for me to.
*points and laughs*
haw haw ;)

Women hit guys because they don't think we'll hit back.in the name of equality i hit every girl who hits me,just like i'd hit every guy.

If women want the right to vote and that they're going to have to learn to deal with a few bruises now and then.

Are we talking about hitting in anger or just messing around?

Yes you did. Women usually know much better which way to go! :D

Sorry I am truck driver so I do not suffer that indignity. But, to be fair it is usually women who stop me to ask where something is while their husband just sits silently staring at the road.

Are we talking about hitting in anger or just messing around?
i was talking about anger.

Sorry I am truck driver so I do not suffer that indignity. But, to be fair it is usually women who stop me to ask where something is while their husband just sits silently staring at the road.Yeah, real men don't ask for directions, even if we are lost :D

It's just reproductive logic. Same reason women don't watch as much porn.

Meh...my girlfriend looks more at porn that I do, and I'm not a saint.
Either way, I'd hit any woman who hits me. There is no reason at all why I shouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't get into a fight with a pumped up guy who could hand me my ass in three seconds, that's dumb. Women who expect to get away with hitting a man are dumb as well. Or cowards. Or both?
The only woman I'd never ever hit is my mother.

Yeah, real men don't ask for directions, even if we are lost
i had a guy ask me for directions earlier, im not so sure it was a guy now...

i had a guy ask me for directions earlier, im not so sure it was a guy now...A guy maybe, but not a "real man" :p

A guy maybe, but not a "real man"
right how do you define a real man?

you need to meet a friend of mine, she hit me and i was in hospital for two days getting x-rayed and stuff, hurt for about a month.

PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i had a broken jaw, i think you would find that sore... come here im sure she will be willing to hit you to just for that comment.

right how do you define a real man?

Not anybody that gets their ass kicked by a girl

i had a broken jaw, i think you would find that sore... come here im sure she will be willing to hit you to just for that comment.

What's wrong? Need her to fight your battles... pussy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not anybody that gets their ass kicked by a girl
woah seixst sounding comments... but what if it is like the girl kickboxing champion of the world or something and she like totally kicks ass what then?

Not anybody that gets their ass kicked by a girl

What if the girl in question is a black belt with 8 years of training behind her?

If that doesnt make a difference then i'm not a real man

woah seixst sounding comments... but what if it is like the girl kickboxing champion of the world or something and she like totally kicks ass what then?

Those aren't women... they are scary butch-dikes who TRAIN to fight... not some random girl who can break your glass jaw

i follow this rule that men shouldnt hit women, so instead i throw them, preferably into something soft, then they realize every time they hit me they get launched a few feet.

Those aren't women... they are scary butch-dikes who TRAIN to fight... not some random girl who can break your glass jaw
ok see your point... still hurts when they slap...

Those aren't women... they are scary butch-dikes who TRAIN to fight... not some random girl who can break your glass jaw

Actually most of the good female fighters i've met in person were pretty hot. Not scary butch-dikes at all

What if the girl in question is a black belt with 8 years of training behind her?

If that doesnt make a difference then i'm not a real man

True that... but if you knew the girl was a black belt and she still kicked your ass out of self-defense... you had it coming to you anyway

True that... but if you knew the girl was a black belt and she still kicked your ass out of self-defense... you had it coming to you anyway

To be fair it was my sensei's fault for telling me to do it :p

Actually most of the good female fighters i've met in person were pretty hot. Not scary butch-dikes at all

I would say they are a small minority... I think athletic women are attractive but I haven't seen many attractive fighters

i follow this rule that men shouldnt hit women, so instead i throw them, preferably into something soft, then they realize every time they hit me they get launched a few feet.
quite a good method...

To be fair it was my sensei's fault for telling me to do it :p

What a bastard

Actually most of the good female fighters i've met in person were pretty hot. Not scary butch-dikes at all
I think she's quite hot
http://www.evawahlstrom.net/eva.htm

I think she's quite hot
http://www.evawahlstrom.net/eva.htm

she's ok

I would say they are a small minority... I think athletic women are attractive but I haven't seen many attractive fighters

I suppose it depends on how good a fighter they are. Cant see many bad fighters having a good face after a few bouts :p

I suppose it depends on how good a fighter they are. Cant see many bad fighters having a good face after a few bouts
ROFLMAO!!!

I think she's quite hot
http://www.evawahlstrom.net/eva.htm

Holy macaroni! She's hot like...like...really hot water in a kettle!! :D
Almost as hot a my gf! (instead she's looking in this thread ;P )

i was just talking to a girlfriend and she was telling me about hitting a guy the other night and he hit back, i then was going to tell her that he was a prick and so on but then it hit me, why should females be allowed to hit males without thinking they would be hit back? any opinions?

People, male or female, hit each other, its a fact. Why people want to turn it into some gender debate is beyound me....

PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HIT EACH OTHER! PERIOD!

You guys really need to grow up. (You) "mommy mommy, a friend of mine hit a guy and did not think she was going to be hit back, and she was a women. I'm going to make an issue about it in the forums so as to critize feminism.... ok mommy?" :rolleyes:

she's ok
http://www.evawahlstrom.net/kuvat/Linnanjuhlat04/5.jpg
a bit better pic.

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she's ok
shes alright... tatoos put me off for some reason...

shes alright... tatoos put me off for some reason...
Tatoos put me on. So do piercings and bracers. Bracers on a girl put me in a "ready-to-go-mode" instantly :p

Tatoos put me on. So do piercings and bracers. Bracers on a girl put me in a "ready-to-go-mode" instantly
to each his own i guess...

Amestria']People, male or female, hit each other, its a fact. Why people want to turn it into some gender debate is beyound me....

PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HIT EACH OTHER! PERIOD!

You guys really need to grow up. (You) "mommy mommy, a friend of mine hit a guy and did not think she was going to be hit back, and she was a women. I'm going to make an issue about it in the forums so as to critize feminism.... ok mommy?" :rolleyes:

Ditto on the nonviolence regardless of gender, but I'll have to disagree on that last bit.

Even with your sarcasm, I fail to see how criticizing a big flaw in something is immature. I'm a feminist myself (yeah, I'm a guy) and think that people saying that females are weak in any way is ignorant and incorrect.

to each his own i guess...
It's not a guess, it's a fact =)

right how do you define a real man?I wouldn't. I just personally couldn't ask for directions or help finding something while shopping with the only arguement being "real men don't ask for directions". It's a stereotype guys are especially prone to.
I suppose it's a feeble attempt at a self-critique of the male psyche...:D

Tatoos put me on. So do piercings and bracers. Bracers on a girl put me in a "ready-to-go-mode" instantly :p

I have to agree here. As long as the tattoos, etc are tasteful and not just everywhere with no reason behind them

Ditto on the nonviolence regardless of gender, but I'll have to disagree on that last bit.

Even with your sarcasm, I fail to see how criticizing a big flaw in something is immature. I'm a feminist myself (yeah, I'm a guy) and think that people saying that females are weak in any way is ignorant and incorrect.

What was the big flaw, I don't follow :confused:

Amestria']What was the big flaw, I don't follow :confused:

Some could argue that the flaw is that certain women expect to be allowed to hit a man but in the reverse situation they would say the man should not have hit a woman. Before I get attacked here i'd like to point out I never said this was my opinion or that I thought it was a majority opinion

Ditto on the nonviolence regardless of gender, but I'll have to disagree on that last bit.

Even with your sarcasm, I fail to see how criticizing a big flaw in something is immature. I'm a feminist myself (yeah, I'm a guy) and think that people saying that females are weak in any way is ignorant and incorrect.

Depends on what you compare women with I guess. About them beaing weak that is! But physically a majority of guys ARE stronger than women. In not so few cases that will make them physically weak, at least compared to a man. It's a good thing todays society relies more on brain than brawl! (Good for everyone, after all I'd rather get home from work without bruises and a broken nose! :p )

saying that females are weak in any way is ignorant and incorrect.
i concur i personally believe in aspects women are stronger than guys alot stronger but not all, never underestimate women.

Just can't keep from sticking your foot in it, can you?

Anyway, a woman who hits a man should expect to be hit back. Luckily, most men are too polite to do that, but if and when she meets a real jerk....

Hitting is the tactic of someone who is too stupid/ignorant to express themselves in a civilized and constructive way.

That all sounds good Zooke, but aside from the proper thing to teach children, the fact of the matter is, men and boys are taught from a young age that you are never to hit a woman even if she hits you. If you do you are less than a man. The man or boy that reports such behaivor is shunned, ridiculed and quite logically considered a sissy.
While hitting may be a tactic of someone who is too stupid or ignorant to express themselves in a civilized and constructive way, it is also the tatic of those smart enough to know that who ever gets the first shot in usually wins. If physical violence can't be avoided then the person who is stupid or ignorant is the one that attempts to express themselves in a civilized and constructive way. I am sorry but the canned sterotype only dumb people hit line is just too unrealistic to be considered credible. It sounds good, but that is about it.

I've only just seemed to snap out of a trance a few moments ago and managed to do some thinking about the topic.

My ex-girlfriend would hit me, for various reasons. It would hurt sometimes and I'd tell her to stop if it did. I wouldn't dream of hitting her back and if I did hit her in any way, it would most certainly be in a form that wouldn't hurt. This all falls into the category of "playing" with eachother.
From my experience, it would seem that women are less likely to notice where to draw the line between physical violence and playful behavior because "guys can take it" while guys would be more careful, having grown up with the "don't hit girls" stereotypes.

Liverbreath']That all sounds good Zooke, but aside from the proper thing to teach children, the fact of the matter is, men and boys are taught from a young age that you are never to hit a woman even if she hits you. If you do you are less than a man. The man or boy that reports such behaivor is shunned, ridiculed and quite logically considered a sissy.
While hitting may be a tactic of someone who is too stupid or ignorant to express themselves in a civilized and constructive way, it is also the tatic of those smart enough to know that who ever gets the first shot in usually wins. If physical violence can't be avoided then the person who is stupid or ignorant is the one that attempts to express themselves in a civilized and constructive way. I am sorry but the canned sterotype only dumb people hit line is just too unrealistic to be considered credible. It sounds good, but that is about it.

Forgive me for butting in but I don't think Zooke meant it that way. If a situation is about to explode into violence in five seconds it would indeed be dumb to try to convince the angry person that diplomacy is the way to go. Words work mostly but there are cases where their use ends. After the first punch in the face it'd just be retarded to reason. But say...you're having a heated discussion over a subject that is very important to you and THEN you hit the other guy for disagreeing...that would indeed be a faliure for you. I think that is what Zooke meant.
I could be wrong, been that plenty before.

:rolleyes: Some could argue that the flaw is that certain women expect to be allowed to hit a man but in the reverse situation they would say the man should not have hit a woman. Before I get attacked here i'd like to point out I never said this was my opinion or that I thought it was a majority opinion

How many women are beaten, or used to be beaten by their husbands, yet where expected to stay in the marriage and not fight back?

IT DOES NOT MATTER, ABUSE IN RELATIOINSHIPS AND VIOLENCE IN SOCIETY SHOULD BE FROWNED UPON NO MATTER TO DID IT TO WHOM!
PERIOD!

Anyway, is there any evidence that we tend to hit guys and expect impunity. Studies, polls, anything other then rumors and hearsay?

(PS: My sarcasm comes from the fact that there was a similar post like this one a few months ago, and it turned into an anti-feminist rant. :rolleyes: )

Amestria']:rolleyes:

How many women are beaten, or used to be beaten by their husbands, yet where expected to stay in the marriage and not fight back?

IT DOES NOT MATTER, ABUSE IN RELATIOINSHIPS AND VIOLENCE IN SOCIETY SHOULD BE FROWNED UPON NO MATTER TO DID IT TO WHOM!
PERIOD!

Anyway, is there any evidence that we tend to hit guys and expect impunity. Studies, polls, anything other then rumors and hearsay?

(PS: My sarcasm comes from the fact that there was a similar post like this one a few months ago, and it turned into an anti-feminist rant. :rolleyes: )
My ex girlfriend would hit me and not expect me to hit back because A) I didn't and B) she was convinced that I would realise that it was justified.

That's just my personal experience.

As for violence being frowned upon, in my personal experience, women don't necessarily pay as much attention to the border between violence and simple chastise.

Because women "are too weak to hurt you". The last time I heard something like that was before I went to the hospital for stitches after my little sister hit me... :p



Haha, puss.

Amestria']:rolleyes:
*snip*
Anyway, is there any evidence that we tend to hit guys and expect impunity. Studies, polls, anything other then rumors and hearsay?

(PS: My sarcasm comes from the fact that there was a similar post like this one a few months ago, and it turned into an anti-feminist rant. :rolleyes: )

I haven't seen such a poll myself but I base my own conclusion (that women indeed tend to rely on that guys never hit them and that boys are raised getting told to never hit a girl) on my own surrounding. I know a lot of people and they in their turn as well. We all talk and this very subject pops up once in a while. since this relates to a very big chunk of my life, these ARE the people I hang out with and socialize, in my world many women think they can get away with hitting a man and most men are raised not to hit a woman. It doesn't make it ok for a woman to hit a man, hitting is not nice and not ok, but they still expect him not to hit back. This is the reality I live in though I must say it doesn't really concern me that much. The only times I've been hit is when I've been tickling girlfriends. I have an uncanny ability to draw elbows towards my nose :)

Haha, puss.She used "tools". It wasn't with her bare hands and she had the element of surprise on her side.

The only times I've been hit is when I've been tickling girlfriends. I've been hit for putting on an Irish or Scottish accent...:(

Forgive me for butting in but I don't think Zooke meant it that way. If a situation is about to explode into violence in five seconds it would indeed be dumb to try to convince the angry person that diplomacy is the way to go. Words work mostly but there are cases where their use ends. After the first punch in the face it'd just be retarded to reason. But say...you're having a heated discussion over a subject that is very important to you and THEN you hit the other guy for disagreeing...that would indeed be a faliure for you. I think that is what Zooke meant.
I could be wrong, been that plenty before.

I am sure she probably didn't however, I grew up hearing exactly the points she was making and just simply never understood why only that part of the topic was ever presented to me as a possibility as a kid. I have always believed that kids are much more intelligent than we give them credit for and they see the holes in this method of teaching right from wrong. It is much more important to teach the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth when dealing with them. Hitting a girl back if she hits you will get you more grief than week long visit to the hospital, and sometimes trying to talk your way out of a situation just is not realistic. Kids need to know that just as much as they need to know that hitting is not the smartest thing to do if it can be helped. Just because some else is ignorant is not a good reason to get decked, unless of course it is a girl. :p

Haha, puss.
Haha, jerk.

She used "tools". It wasn't with her bare hands and she had the element of surprise on her side.


Suuuure she did...puss.

I've been hit for putting on an Irish or Scottish accent...:(

What? Is he some militant english gal who still revel in the colonial era and thinks the biggest problem with Scotland is that it's full with...scots? ;)
No offence mate but is he's hitting you for useing accents AND uses tools and make ssurprise attacks she just looks like a loose gun. I gues she has a tonne of redeeming traits?

Suuuure she did...puss.Please take a look at this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437787) before you post something else like that.

What? Is he some militant english gal who still revel in the colonial era and thinks the biggest problem with Scotland is that it's full with...scots? ;)
No offence mate but is he's hitting you for useing accents AND uses tools and make ssurprise attacks she just looks like a loose gun. I gues she has a tonne of redeeming traits?No, that wasn't my sister. It was my most recent ex-girlfriend. My sister was the one that sent me to the hospital to get stitches.
My ex hit me, without telling me why at first, because my accents were so irresistibly cute that the only way to shut me up other than covering my face in kisses was hitting me. For some very pressing reasons, we didn't make our relationship public for a month and a half, so the covering my face in kisses was not an option when in company of friends.

Well,it is my opinion that just because someones a woman that means a guy cant hit her.I think that it shouldn't matter what sex you are.If your a woman that dosnt mean a guy could take a hit any better.Just something to think about. :)

*snip
My ex hit me, without telling me why at first, because my accents were so irresistibly cute that the only way to shut me up other than covering my face in kisses was hitting me.

I get the impression you must be very hard to shut up :D

Its because they are eratic and cant control their emotions. :mad:

I get the impression you must be very hard to shut up :DI get the impression you'd naturally hit guys to shut them up :D
(You're right, actually...)

I haven't seen such a poll myself but I base my own conclusion (that women indeed tend to rely on that guys never hit them and that boys are raised getting told to never hit a girl) on my own surrounding. I know a lot of people and they in their turn as well. We all talk and this very subject pops up once in a while. since this relates to a very big chunk of my life, these ARE the people I hang out with and socialize, in my world many women think they can get away with hitting a man and most men are raised not to hit a woman. It doesn't make it ok for a woman to hit a man, hitting is not nice and not ok, but they still expect him not to hit back. This is the reality I live in though I must say it doesn't really concern me that much. The only times I've been hit is when I've been tickling girlfriends. I have an uncanny ability to draw elbows towards my nose :)

You have never been hit by a women, yet you complain that women hit guys with impunity... :confused: huh!?

From my own personal experience we are (at the least) no more given to violence then guys.

Just suck it up and accept the fact that there are violent people out there and sometimes people hit each other....

I would never ever hit a woman out of anger, but if one hit me I would hit them back in the same place witht the same force.

right how do you define a real man?
Selfish, egotisitcal asshole.

Amestria']You have never been hit by a women, yet you complain that women hit guys with impunity... :confused: huh!?

From my own personal experience we are (at the least) no more given to violence then guys.

Just suck it up and accept the fact that there are violent people out there and sometimes people hit each other....

Oh...so you mean I must get hit or mauled by a woman to have a valid opinion on the matter? This isn't about ME getting hit, it's about attitudes, I thought you understood that. Oh well...

I get the impression you'd naturally hit guys to shut them up :D
(You're right, actually...)
I haven't been in a fight for the last 17 years of my 27 year old life =)
That said I wouldn't shy from violence if that would be the only way to get me out of a situation gone sour.
And for the record I'm notoriously difficult to shut up as well, in case you couldn't guess :)

Its because they are eratic and cant control their emotions. :mad:

You don't have a girl-friend do you? It's a classic respnse to sexual difficulties to blame the other gender. I bet your some guy sitting all alone acting out his frustrations with women not enjoying his company ;). Perhaps you were married and she left you? Would not be surprised, you seem that sort of person...

Selfish, egotisitcal asshole.

Ouch, that sounds bitter and petty. :eek:

I would never ever hit a woman out of anger, but if one hit me I would hit them back in the same place witht the same force.And you call yourself Pacifist Power? :p

Ouch, that sounds bitter and petty. :eek:
Not really, considering I'm a guy myself, but for the most part, that pretty aptly describes guys who consider themselves "real men"

Last time a member of the female race hit me, I smashed her in the eye with my library card....

because she smashed me in the eye with her credit card.

I haven't been in a fight for the last 17 years of my 27 year old life =)
That said I wouldn't shy from violence if that would be the only way to get me out of a situation gone sour.
And for the record I'm notoriously difficult to shut up as well, in case you couldn't guess :)I've never been in a fight. It nearly happened once, but I stopped myself before I beat the shit out of the kid. That way, he got the assault charge and not me.
My parents grilled me for anything I did to my siblings, with the arguement "They're too weak to hurt you" being prevalent until said incident with my sister. It's made me learn to control my anger and find alternative means of subdueing those weaker than me.

Not really, considering I'm a guy myself, but for the most part, that pretty aptly describes guys who consider themselves "real men"
I was incorrect and assumed you had a general bash at males but I get what you mean now :)

My only criteria for a real man is that he should have had more testosterone than estrogen (or however that word is spelled) in his body for at least a few months :D

I'll let you guys squabble about other things that have nothing to do with the original question. But It's my opinion that women sometimes hit guys and expect to not be hit back because it's seen as socially acceptable. Women who hit guys expect them not to retaliate and when they do, this shocks some women who have expected men not to hit them back all along. Now not all women are like this but I think the important thing is that in most cases people will treat you the way you treat them. Swear at someone and they will mostly likely swear back at you, hit them and they will most likely hit you back. I find this to be a good rule of thumb.

why should females be allowed to hit males without thinking they would be hit back? any opinions?I don't think it's right that some chicks think it's ok to hit men. It's not ok to hit anybody, ever. If you are hit, the proper response is not to hit back. If you fear for your safety, then by all means, defend yourself, but if you are significantly stronger than your attacker, hitting back only escalates the violence. If someone hits you in the face as hard as they can and gives you a bloody nose, hitting them in the face as hard as you can and breaking their jaw is not an acceptable reaction. As a female (and a weak, short one at that), the only examples that I can think of are: if a midget or a child attacked me, with all their strength, I would not respond with all of mine.
Again, it's not ok to hit anybody, ever. If you hit back, you will find yourself charged with assault.

I don't think it's right that some chicks think it's ok to hit men. It's not ok to hit anybody, ever. If you are hit, the proper response is not to hit back. If you fear for your safety, then by all means, defend yourself, but if you are significantly stronger than your attacker, hitting back only escalates the violence. If someone hits you in the face as hard as they can and gives you a bloody nose, hitting them in the face as hard as you can and breaking their jaw is not an acceptable reaction. As a female (and a weak, short one at that), the only examples that I can think of are: if a midget of a child attacked me, with all their strength, I would not respond with all of mine.
Again, it's not ok to hit anybody, ever. If you hit back, you will find yourself charged with assault.Speaking from personal experience, I say you are correct!

Speaking from personal experience, I say you are correct!Personal experience with midgits? :p

Personal experience with midgits? :pA fourteen year old when I was twenty. He got the assault charge because I didn't take the opportunity of hitting him back.

i'm a complete femanist which freaks girls out as if they piss me off to the level i'd hit a man I'd hit them

but don't hit girls

they were never taught to fight fair

they can hurt you a lot

Please take a look at this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437787) before you post something else like that.


That guy had some good points though.

i'm a complete femanist which freaks girls out as if they piss me off to the level i'd hit a man I'd hit them

but don't hit girls

they were never taught to fight fair

they can hurt you a lot

That's true, it's quite difficult not to hit people (these people being girls) when there are about 6 of them on the stairs in school hitting you and trying to push you down them! :eek:

I managed though :) of course

Selfish, egotisitcal asshole.
for a second there i thought you were calling me all of that, then i realized it was because of my post of how do you define a real man, then i realized im a man and therefore you did just call me all of that... im so confused.

i will just say right now, i have been attacked by a gang of girls on more than one occasion and i did hit back, i hit back hard, i then walked away once they stopped attacking, therefore did not hunt them down or continue to hit anyone so i used self defence but the police still frowned down upon me.

Amestria']You don't have a girl-friend do you? It's a classic respnse to sexual difficulties to blame the other gender. I bet your some guy sitting all alone acting out his frustrations with women not enjoying his company ;). Perhaps you were married and she left you? Would not be surprised, you seem that sort of person...
Oh im hurt.

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Dosent make it any less true.

for a second there i thought you were calling me all of that, then i realized it was because of my post of how do you define a real man, then i realized im a man and therefore you did just call me all of that... im so confused.

i will just say right now, i have been attacked by a gang of girls on more than one occasion and i did hit back, i hit back hard, i then walked away once they stopped attacking, therefore did not hunt them down or continue to hit anyone so i used self defence but the police still frowned down upon me.

Oh, this gang of girls got expelled. :p

Grow up. You know very well what I was referring to.

Learn to accept your mistakes without lashing out.

Oh, this gang of girls got expelled.
the gang oh girls that attacked me got some injuries and sympathy from the police the bastards... they attacked me trying to steal my phone and money all i did was fend off attackers... so what if they had black eye or two or some blood on there nose they hit me and were threatening to pull knives i used appropriate force and aimed for areas of the body where fatal injuries were nearly impossible. they were told to leave after getting some ice on the bruises.

the gang oh girls that attacked me got some injuries and sympathy from the police the bastards... they attacked me trying to steal my phone and money all i did was fend off attackers... so what if they had black eye or two or some blood on there nose they hit me and were threatening to pull knives i used appropriate force and aimed for areas of the body where fatal injuries were nearly impossible. they were told to leave after getting some ice on the bruises.

Tell me where you live so I know never to move there...

Also, where are these nearly fatal areas; they could be useful?
There is a soft spot if you poke in under the ear, just behind the lobe. :)

Tell me where you live so I know never to move there...
I live in Central Scotland inbetween Glasgow, Edinburgh and just past Stirling, it is getting more violent everyday here...

Also, where are these nearly fatal areas; they could be useful?
You have got the left temple on someones head, hit there and they die cause it causes blood clots in the brain, hit the right temple and it causes brain damage by destroying nerve endings, hit the left or right of the throat and you will hit a major artery this can also cause clotting to the persons brain and cause death aswell, a punch straight in the throat if hard enough can kill as it will stick the windpipe together, the death will be slow and very painful for the person involved... i hit areas like below the eye, so i would hit tissue and bone only no major arteries or nerves, also the chin and scored one right on a bitchs nose!!! :)
WARNING!!! NEVER MOVE TO AREAS AROUND STIRLING OR G:ASGOW IN SCOTLAND!!! NEVER USE WHAT I JUST SAID ABOVE ON SOMEONE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!! NEVER EAT MACORONI CHEESE WITH PICKLES!!!

Sounds like the only thing it could be is you REALLY asking for it, or them being a bunch of chavs/charvers/neds/scallies, or whatever you call them in scotland.

Neds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That'll explain it then. Allow me to emphasise that THEY'RE NOT NORMAL.

That'll explain it then. Allow me to emphasise that THEY'RE NOT NORMAL.
REALLY NOT NORMAL, but here in Scotland around the areas where i live NED's first came from here and like invaded the rest of the world, NED culture is only truest where it was born, come here and you will see what i mean, i stood with some mates and counted for a day how many non-NED's walked passed and how many NED's did the non-NED's where out numbered nearly 60 to one... scary...
just check out these picks to see what i mean:
NED 1 (http://glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/dumbned1.jpg)
NED 2 (http://glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/dumbned2.jpg)
NED 3 (http://glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/dumbned3.jpg)
NED GROUP (http://glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/nedgal98.jpg)

sorry for the trauma i may of caused, but i run into people like these ones everyday no matter where i go... some NED's tried to mug me for my phone literally 30 seconds from my front door.

It's just because their parents were miners and now they're out of jobs, I bet.

It's just because their parents were miners and now they're out of jobs, I bet.
Where do you get that idea from? around glasgow it would of been more ship building yards that closed, but there is still many a distilary looking for workers, and there are new outlets opening up all around here that are looking for employee's the NED's choose not to take the jobs and live on benefit instead.

Well, because the trade unions lost their crippling power. Did I ever tell you how much I like Margaret Thatcher?

Still does not mean that "women" think anything.

I think that you are an idiot!

There you go point dismissed.......

Basically it's not okay to hit anyone regardless of gender, but society doesn't seem to baulk as much when guys get hit. A white middle class female would probably be not too far behind children, as well as the disabled or the elderly, as the most frowned-upon target for physical violence. It's not okay to hit a girl, and I'll always hold that to be the case because of natural common male chivalry and common sense, but it's comparitively fine to hit a guy. No reason for this, it's just an interesting social acceptance.

You've never been to highschool, have you? Girls hit on guys all the time.

That they do, apparently. But not me. :rolleyes:

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

I live in Central Scotland inbetween Glasgow, Edinburgh and just past Stirling, it is getting more violent everyday here...


You have got the left temple on someones head, hit there and they die cause it causes blood clots in the brain, hit the right temple and it causes brain damage by destroying nerve endings, hit the left or right of the throat and you will hit a major artery this can also cause clotting to the persons brain and cause death aswell, a punch straight in the throat if hard enough can kill as it will stick the windpipe together, the death will be slow and very painful for the person involved... i hit areas like below the eye, so i would hit tissue and bone only no major arteries or nerves, also the chin and scored one right on a bitchs nose!!! :)
WARNING!!! NEVER MOVE TO AREAS AROUND STIRLING OR G:ASGOW IN SCOTLAND!!! NEVER USE WHAT I JUST SAID ABOVE ON SOMEONE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!! NEVER EAT MACORONI CHEESE WITH PICKLES!!!

Um, is there any particular reason for that? or do you just not like pickles.

I don't either. :p

Um, is there any particular reason for that? or do you just not like pickles.
You cant eat them with macoroni cheese they just dont mix, i mean fine eat custard with raw onions, or kethcup and mayonaise sandwhiches, just not pickles with macoroni it just is the most vile mix ever, i love eating them seperatly though :)

Most of the females I've encountered in my life wouldn't be so low or stupid as to do something they'd dismiss as typical male BS.

But I've encountered a few nasty specimens of the female gender in my life, ones whpo figure its okay for them to hit me, and don''t expect to be hit back. I give them all the same response: The Pimp Slap. Stops 'em dead in their tracks, and shows them what it feels like when someone respects them as little as they do others. I've only had to do this 3 times (on 2 of those occasions the females in question were meth-heads...a vile and evil form of life regardless of gender)

I recently had a female friend of mine hit me in a fit of misdirected anger. I just boxed her ears in response, which woke her up to the fact that what she did was not cool, without injuring more than her pride.

Maybe: woman gives child, man wants child, man not hit woman.
only kick in balls stops man providing child, woman not hit man in balls?

Pay back for years of sexual oppresion?

i was just talking to a girlfriend and she was telling me about hitting a guy the other night and he hit back, i then was going to tell her that he was a prick and so on but then it hit me, why should females be allowed to hit males without thinking they would be hit back? any opinions?

They shouldn't.

The two times I've hit a man(back handed one while playing cards & slammed a beer bottle into another guys jaw--drinking was involved in both occasions) they both retaliated .. the one I hit with the bottle busted my chin wide open, the other just threw me across the room into a wall. I was out of line both times raising my hand to them. I'm just glad I didn't get hurt worse. I slapped one of my bf's once, he deserved it , but he didn't retaliate.

I slapped one of my bf's once, he deserved it , but he didn't retaliate.
If the man thinks he deserves it in my opinion they never hit back well that is how i look at it and how i behave, but if there is no good reason for it i feel obliged to hit back.

If the man thinks he deserves it in my opinion they never hit back well that is how i look at it and how i behave, but if there is no good reason for it i feel obliged to hit back.Do you think I believed I deserved being hit for putting on an accent? No. Did I feel obliged to hit her back? No.

Do you think I believed I deserved being hit for putting on an accent? No. Did I feel obliged to hit her back? No.

But was it not just playful hitting?

But was it not just playful hitting?It hurt. I felt like I was being punished for something that shouldn't be punished. Therefore I felt there was no good reason for it, but I did not feel obliged to hit back.

It hurt. I felt like I was being punished for something that shouldn't be punished. Therefore I felt there was no good reason for it, but I did not feel obliged to hit back.
there are certain situations where yes i would not hit back like you didn't except in the majority i would feel obliged to hit her back.

you need to meet a friend of mine, she hit me and i was in hospital for two days getting x-rayed and stuff, hurt for about a month.
What the hell did she hit you with?

What the hell did she hit you with?

her fist, she is a mad woman... i love her really... :)

It's really that no one seems to notice that the age of chivalry is over. The call for equality went up, but I believe that some women (there, not generalizing) think that they get to take only the good. The bad of course, is being subject to self-defense. So, those that think they can take the good without the bad get a rude awakening, and the men who lean toward supporting that side (aka: a principle that punishes hitting a girl worse than hitting a guy) are out-dated and sexist.

out-dated and sexist.
damn straight!! :)

Well it all depends how hard she hit him. If it was just playfullness then thats fine for guys to hit back. If the woman is really very strong and hitting the day lights out of the guy then thats ok too, but in the majority of cases men are so much stronger then women, it gives guys an unfair advantage.

it gives guys an unfair advantage.
therefore it makes sense not to hit the guy in the first place doesn't it???

Yea, got my nose broken by a g/f hitting me once. At least she felt sorry for it. Though my two girl cousins still try to beat me. Though, girls in my family run mean though. BTW they're both in their mid20's

because male chauvanist pigs like me deserve to be hit. Of course, there is that unsavoury element that enjoys it.... *shudders*
Yum. Enjoys it.

Yea, got my nose broken by a g/f hitting me once. At least she felt sorry for it. Though my two girl cousins still try to beat me. Though, girls in my family run mean though. BTW they're both in their mid20's
I dont have any cousins, hmmm the girls out here are mean aswell though so i guess im not missing out...

If a woman tried to hit me, I'd use some hapkido and put them in an arm bar. Show some authority without having to hit her back.

She will feel pain for trying to pull it, but I won't be hitting her. I might give her a spanking or two if she has a nice bottom though.

Just another double standard, that doesn't really affect men until the woman is Wonder woman and beats the hell out of them.

Although, I'm a wrestler and a Martial artist, so like the person above me, I can keep them from hittng me, without hurting them. They get the point, not to do it, and I don't actually have to hurt her. I'd never actually hit a woman though...

...
guess that means unless they come at me with a knife, or they try to run me over, or they cut in line in the supermarket, or if they try to shoot you... along those lines?

Because, for the most part, if a girl hits you it's not going to hurt.
For some ... for others they will kick both of our asses lol

For some ... for others they will kick both of our asses lol
they will i will vow for that... it hurts!

Women can get away with whatever they please these days. I read all the time about abusive wives who threaten their husbands all the time and can still gouge their exes in divorce court. If a man beats his wife, he's an asshole who should be locked up. If a woman beats her husband, he's a sissy who probably deserves it. Same with cheating. If he does it, he's an asshole. If she does it, he's still an asshole. I don't buy any of that crap and won't go near any female who does.

The only creatures I act in any way chivalrous to are animals. I can barely raise a hand to an animal no matter what it's doing to me. My dog has destroyed property, chewed on my clothes, and injured me, and I have barely done anything to her. If it were a child, I would have slapped them into next week and enrolled them in military school in half a second. And if a lady did that to me, I might just do it back to her and see how she liked it.

they will i will vow for that... it hurts!
Yes it does :) specialy when sparing they misjudge and contact ... hard

For some ... for others they will kick both of our asses lol

Well, never make crude comments at women wearing these funny white pajamas, with black waste ties. Those ones always seem to hurt the worst....

Women can get away with whatever they please these days. I read all the time about abusive wives who threaten their husbands all the time and can still gouge their exes in divorce court. If a man beats his wife, he's an asshole who should be locked up. If a woman beats her husband, he's a sissy who probably deserves it. Same with cheating. If he does it, he's an asshole. If she does it, he's still an asshole. I don't buy any of that crap and won't go near any female who does.

The only creatures I act in any way chivalrous to are animals. I can barely raise a hand to an animal no matter what it's doing to me. My dog has destroyed property, chewed on my clothes, and injured me, and I have barely done anything to her. If it were a child, I would have slapped them into next week and enrolled them in military school in half a second. And if a lady did that to me, I might just do it back to her and see how she liked it.



In Irish and British law, it states rape as: A man forcibly having sexual relations with a woman.

Rape is only committed when a man forcibly has sex with a woman. Not a man and a man, or two women, or a woman and a man, it's only a man forcibly having sex with a woman. It is completely discriminatory.

If two sixteen year olds have sex, a boy and a girl, the boy has committed rape, even if she "Consented" (Legal age of consent is 17).

My father is a barrister (Lawyer, here we have two (Our legal system is based upon English Common Law), a Solicitor and a Barrister, the latter goes into court), he's dealt with cases to do with that. The father of the girl finds out, he goes crazy, he reports it as rape, because she's his "Little princess", they go into court, the girl looks very innocent etc... And nine times out of ten, the boy is convicted.

Society has become too... Fecked up.