NationStates Jolt Archive

What's your position? I don't really care why. I just want to see the correlation. Vote!

Ban smoking in public places, allow it in private homes and give companies the right to determine their own smoking policy. Guns should be allowed in all places except public buildings, but individual companies and facilities should be allowed to determine their own policies.

I used to be anti-gun, but was actually converted over the years.

I'd say ban public smoking - I mean secondhand smoke is a serious danger to other's health, and one's right to smoke does not outweight another's right to life, period. If you want to smoke, do it at home, or wide open spaces, not in buildings or crowded areas.

As for guns - reasonable private ownership, no assault rifles or shit like that, but since a gun can be used to defend oneself they should be legal. I don't believe you should be allowed to carry one concealed however, unless you are an officer of the law.

I don't like breathing in the smoke from people's cancer sticks so banning public smoking is a plus. We need strict gun control laws but those who are smart about it can certainly have a gun in their own home.

As far as I know, guns aren't addictive; you don't have to use or bring your gun with you like you have to with cigarettes. Plus, your gun doesn't produce clouds of carcinogenic vapors.

I support public smoking and gun ownership. I also think you should, if you choose, need not wear a motorcycle helmet or wear a seatbelt.

I support public smoking and gun ownership. I also think you should, if you choose, need not wear a motorcycle helmet or wear a seatbelt.
YAY Libertarians!

I'm the only one who has voted so far who doesn't support private gun ownership. wow
*backs slowly toward the door*

I'm the only one who has voted so far who doesn't support private gun ownership. wow
*backs slowly toward the door*
*Gets mugged by a guy with a peice of pipe and a shiv....* :rolleyes:

i voted "allow public smoking, allow private gun ownership" but i do support restrictions on both.

most of the common restrictions on smoking are fine by me. no smoking in elevators, no smoking in any business that disallows it, no smoking in public buildings (city hall, the courthouse, etc), mandated no-smoking areas in bars and restaurants.

gun registration is stupid but i wouldnt work to get rid of it. no carrying a gun in public, concealed carry permits, no guns for convicted felons, severe restrictions on "assault" weapons (whatever those might be but there is no good reason for most people to have big guns).

Ban Public Smoking, Allow Private Gun Ownership

Well, I have no problem with people smoking on the streets, but here in Ireland you can't smoke in an indoor workplace, including bars, and I approve of that.

There should be no such thing as "public" smoking. All public areas should be privatized and the owners of the property should get to decide what can and cannot be done on their property (as long as the things done on their property do not spill over onto other property). In the mean time (i.e. before the Great Libertarian Revolution) I guess its fair to have smoking banned on publicly owned property, as long as the voters support it. Privately owned restaurants, pubs, homes, offices etc. are not public areas and so it is impossible to engage in "public smoking" in such areas, only private smoking. Anyone who supports a private smoking ban ought to have their property confiscated; if they don't like the idea of other people having private property, they shouldn't have their own property either.

I support public smoking and gun ownership. I also think you should, if you choose, need not wear a motorcycle helmet or wear a seatbelt.
I don't agree with the seatbelt...without a seatbelt you become lethal to anybody else in the car in the event of an accident.

And it's nice for the paramedics when they don't have to scrape you off the ground.

I'm for legalizing guns and smoking so I can fight the tobacco industry.

Fucking cigarette smoke kills babies. Most importantly, it nearly killed ME. Think I'm gonna lay back and let other poor kids suffer when they don't even know what they're breathing from their parent's cancer sticks?

I'm for banning the sales of tabacco anywhere and everywhere and banning guns.


All of you talk about second hand smoke, guess what my parents are heavy smokers and dont mind breathing in their "carcinogenic vapours".... never had any problems or anything. (not that i like it)

And about second hand smoke in public places, let's be serious you think it's more dangerous than the pollution created by cars?


I am not saying second hand smoke has no effects //that it is not dangerous, especially if your parents are VERY heavy smokers, but i'm afraid to say tha if you want to get rid of smoking you don tban it in public places and such, YOU BAN THE SALE OF IT. Otherwise you'll never get rid of it



And concerning all of the peple who want everybody to have a gun, if you have it you will be more tempted to use it. Watch the crime rates skyrocket if you make it any more legal to have guns. You say it's not addictive, do you have proof of this?


and you are right, your gun does nto produce any carcinogenic vapours which may or may not affect you over a longer exposure, guns they can kill you where you stand within less than a second.

my position on guns is this:

no one should have them. they shouldn't exist. no individual should have the power to point at someone and make them die. it's just creepy.

HOWEVER. the police have guns. and i don't see them disarming any time soon.

as long as the pigs have guns we need guns to defend ourselves. it doesn't really matter to me if guns are outlawed because i only use them for illegal self-defense (resisting arrest) and subversive activity.

ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

I dont think people are ready for guns under a capitalist society. People are divided enough by the right-wing media without being given guns to point at and shoot each other with.

Smoking- What the fuck? We want to create another black market in tobacco by banning cigarettes? And outlawing them in public places is ridiculous too- i can guarantee that walking past the amount of traffic as I have to will create just as much damage to my lungs as somebody on the opposite side of a cafe having a couple of fags

I used to be anti-gun, but was actually converted over the years.

I'd say ban public smoking - I mean secondhand smoke is a serious danger to other's health, and one's right to smoke does not outweight another's right to life, period. If you want to smoke, do it at home, or wide open spaces, not in buildings or crowded areas.

As for guns - reasonable private ownership, no assault rifles or shit like that, but since a gun can be used to defend oneself they should be legal. I don't believe you should be allowed to carry one concealed however, unless you are an officer of the law.
To bad concealed carry is a efficient deterrent to crime.

I agree with your idea on public smoking though.

my position on guns is this:

no one should have them. they shouldn't exist. no individual should have the power to point at someone and make them die. it's just creepy.

HOWEVER. the police have guns. and i don't see them disarming any time soon.

as long as the pigs have guns we need guns to defend ourselves. it doesn't really matter to me if guns are outlawed because i only use them for illegal self-defense (resisting arrest) and subversive activity.

ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:
What in the lordies name? Well, I guess nobody should have knives because they can kill us all.

Weapons are a deterrent to crime. Period.

I dont think people are ready for <insert tool that could be used to take someones life> under a capitalist society. People are divided enough by the right-wing media without being given guns to point at and shoot each other with.
Fixed for me :)