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Happy Birthday Fidel

La Habana Cuba
12-08-2005, 20:02
Fidel Castro was born August 13, 1926,
appropriate day, in the town of Biran Cuba,
the province of Oriente.

This is your chance to wish
President Fidel Castro of Cuba,
el comandante en jefe,
a happy birthday or not.

This is your chance not to wish
President Fidel Castro of Cuba,
el comandante en jefe,
a happy birthday.

Post any views or comments you may have.

I do not wish President Fidel Castro of Cuba,
el comandante en jefe,
a happy birthday for being a dictator
of over 46 years.
La Habana Cuba
Ritlina
12-08-2005, 20:04
Happy Birthday Fidel! Also, Happy 46 Years Of Dictatorship! Long Live The Dictator!
Dorksonia
12-08-2005, 20:06
Hopefully this will be his last birthday and the poor oppressed people of Cuba will again be free.
Colodia
12-08-2005, 20:06
Since he didn't wish me a happy birthday I refuse to wish him one as well.
Willamena
12-08-2005, 20:09
Ooh! A birthday!

Contragulations to the big guy! Well done on surviving 80 years on this planet.

EDIT: I picked the wrong vote in the poll. I wonder how I managed to click wrong? I don't suppose we can change it?
Pablicosta
12-08-2005, 20:11
Thought I doubt Fidel checks these forums regularly, Happy Birthday Fidel!

Oh, and also, why do people who are not Cuban have a 'beef' with Castro, I was in Cuba a month ago and the people there sing the praises of Castro. They don't want rid of him, and thats not just holiday folks either.
Castro is doing good things for Cuba, the re-development of Havanna (though a few years late) is a damn good thing, and it will do the people a hell of a lot of good.
You know why I think Americans don't like Castro? Bay of Pigs. It gives every Cuban bragging rights over you, and they don't half brag about it when your there.
Colodia
12-08-2005, 20:16
Thought I doubt Fidel checks these forums regularly, Happy Birthday Fidel!

Oh, and also, why do people who are not Cuban have a 'beef' with Castro, I was in Cuba a month ago and the people there sing the praises of Castro. They don't want rid of him, and thats not just holiday folks either.
Castro is doing good things for Cuba, the re-development of Havanna (though a few years late) is a damn good thing, and it will do the people a hell of a lot of good.
You know why I think Americans don't like Castro? Bay of Pigs. It gives every Cuban bragging rights over you, and they don't half brag about it when your there.
I don't don't like Castro because of the Bay of Pigs. As much as I think it's stupid to brag about events in a previous century.

I'm just a bit annoyed at him claiming America is out to kill him everytime I hear him talk about America. Jesus. Is that ALL the negative stuff he can talk about us?
Pablicosta
12-08-2005, 20:19
I'm just a bit annoyed at him claiming America is out to kill him everytime I hear him talk about America. Jesus. Is that ALL the negative stuff he can talk about us?

Without hijacking this thread any more, you are out to kill him... :P
Colodia
12-08-2005, 20:21
Without hijacking this thread any more, you are out to kill him... :P
;) I never said we weren't...
Utracia
12-08-2005, 20:23
Hopefully this will be his last birthday and the poor oppressed people of Cuba will again be free.

If Castro died tomorrow another dictator would just take his place.
Stinky Head Cheese
12-08-2005, 20:25
Castro and his braying jackass sidekick Hugo Chavez are both raving idiots who are obviously schizophrenic. Ignore the idiots.
Kroisistan
12-08-2005, 20:26
Hmmm. I dislike his dictatorship but support his socialism.

I think I'll wish El Presidente a happy birthday. Enjoy your cake. Mmmmm.... cake.....
Sinuhue
12-08-2005, 20:27
Hopefully this will be his last birthday and the poor oppressed people of Cuba will again be free.
Yes! Free to be poor and oppressed by someone else! Yay!
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
12-08-2005, 20:29
Without hijacking this thread any more, you are out to kill him... :P
No one is out to kill Castro, it certainly isn't the our fault if the bannister we built for his stair way was missing 70% of the recquired nails.
And how was anyone supposed to know that he would have a bad reaction to those Arsenic flavoured M&Ms?
Of course, I suppose the time that we shipped him a load of Plastic Explosive for his last Birthday was a bit short sighted, but, really, how was anyone supposed to know that the detenator was armed? Those things are just so easy to accidentally activate when you've dropped them on the floor, accidentally dialed in the 6-digit code while you were picking it up, flipped the switch (by accident), and accidentally attached a fuse to the box flap so that the whole load will explode when opened.
Stinky Head Cheese
12-08-2005, 20:31
I might be convinced to wish him a happy birthday if he would open up the political prisons and gulags and let the people out, so that the idiot leftist of America could see what a real gulag is.
Drunk commies deleted
12-08-2005, 20:31
Happy Birthday Fidel.

Isn't it about time to retire and let the people pick a new leader more in tune with today? You've done pretty well by your people in some respects, they're not hungry, they can see the doctor when they need to, but you've also been a bit repressive. Cold war's over dude, retire and enjoy a mojito on the beach.
Pablicosta
12-08-2005, 20:33
:P I will refrain from Hijacking any further...HAPPY BIRTHDAY FIDEL

*birthday kiss for Fidel*
Aldranin
12-08-2005, 21:09
Shitty birthday to you,
Shitty birthday to you,
Shitty birthday, old ass-bag,
Shitty birthday to you.
Please don't have moooooore.

Why couldn't he have fallen just a little harder?
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 04:39
Sinuhue
Elite Jolt Forum User




Join Date: Jul 2004
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Posts: 9,933 Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorksonia
Hopefully this will be his last birthday and the poor oppressed people of Cuba will again be free.


Yes! Free to be poor and oppressed by someone else! Yay!
By Sinuhue

At least Sinuhue admits the Cuban people are
poor and oppressed.
How about that.
Pablicosta
13-08-2005, 11:39
La Habana Cuba, you don't need to post their details and such to quote them.

All you need to is start the quote:

[ quote=//nation name//] quote, this is a quote...[/quote]
(minus the space there of course)

That way it's a lot clearer and you dont fill up a confusing post with join date details and such. :)

Pabli
Blu-tac
13-08-2005, 11:48
I do not wish President Fidel Castro happy birthday, I do not support him in anything he does and I do not support or endorse the evil black hole of communism in any way. I instead wish the American government good luck at all the assasination attempts he deserves, hopefully one day they will get him.
Sdaeriji
13-08-2005, 11:51
When was the last time Fidel even opened his mouth about the USA? It seems Chavez down in Venezuela has taken over for him.

Happy birthday, Castro.
Serbian Baranja
13-08-2005, 11:54
I wish happy, happy bithday to Fidel Castro. He is a living legend, no matter what others may think of him. Defying america is certainly an action to greet.

By the way, I don't want to brag but I wrote a letter to Fidel two years ago and I received an answer together with a photo and his personal autograph.

Viva el communismo!
Laenis
13-08-2005, 12:06
Happy birthday Castro!

Despite the trade restrictions imposed by the US because Cuba happens to be a socialist state, you're still going strong! Keep up the good work, and I hope you find a fine successor.
Zimlar
13-08-2005, 12:36
Happy Birthday Fidel!

May your many more years grant you a true communist state.

P.S. Some of us did notice the crying Cubans when Castro fell over.
Markreich
13-08-2005, 12:46
When Fidel & the revolution took control of Cuba, the people had been living under a corrupt regime and had a standard of living about equal to the US in 1920. Today, nothing has changed.

Enjoy your birthday, Fidel. Most of your countrymen don't have the ingredients to bake you a cake if they wanted to. Nor the electricity...

http://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/2005/07/050722cuba.shtml
South-East Mora Tau
13-08-2005, 13:37
Yeah, thanks to the USA's filthy trade embargo, fuck you yankee.

LONG LIVE THE COMMANDANTE! LONG LIVE INDEPENDANT FREE CUBA! Oo ahh, Fidel no se va!

Hopefully this will be his last birthday and the poor oppressed people of Cuba will again be free.

Hey, mate, sorry, but Fidel has been democratically elected to his position. The Communist Party is open to everyone and the president is voted for through all the people directly democratically, not like your phony democracy in America. There are plenty of comrades ready to take the presidency.

Christina
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 14:01
Would we want to live in a nation
where we have free education
and free helthcare and
compulsory voluntary work
that can cover that cost.


Where the average citizen would not
be allowed to own a personal home computer
and no site like Nationstates would be allowed,
so we could argue, discuss, debate and share
our diffrent political, economic and social
point of view.

Where we could not stay in our own nation's
hotels with foreing currency or our own
national currency.

Where we would not be allowed to own
cable or satelite dishes.

Where we would be paid in our national currency
and we would have to exchange it for
Convertible Currency sent to us
by our relatives.

Where Commitees for the Defense
of the Revolution would keep a record
of our social loyalty to the revoulution,
if we did any volunteer work or not
when asked to do so, or if we attended
a pro government march or not
when told to do so.

Where according to the government
over 98 and 99,25 percent of
eligible voters in a one party state
support the government.

That nation is Cuba.
Olantia
13-08-2005, 14:04
Yeah, thanks to the USA's filthy trade embargo, fuck you yankee.
Aren't there some other countries in the world to trade with?

LONG LIVE THE COMMANDANTE! LONG LIVE INDEPENDANT FREE CUBA! Oo ahh, Fidel no se va!
Happy birthday, Fidel... Khrushchev liked you, and you cut quite a dash in the 1960s.



Hey, mate, sorry, but Fidel has been democratically elected to his position.
Eh? What?

The Communist Party is open to everyone
Guess what? In the hated US of A the Communist Party is also open to everyone! Even more, there are other parties!

and the president is voted for through all the people directly democratically, not like your phony democracy in America.
Sorry, that's counterfactual. There is no office of president in Cuba, hence no direct election.
Jeruselem
13-08-2005, 14:11
Despite a certain nation's attempts to kill him, he's outlasted a lot of world leaders.
Olantia
13-08-2005, 14:19
Despite a certain nation's attempts to kill him, he's outlasted a lot of world leaders.
He has outlasted everyone except the King of Thailand and Queen Elizabeth II.
Legless Pirates
13-08-2005, 14:29
So when's the party?
Nice---Land
13-08-2005, 14:32
I guess Olantia and others
would like to live in such a nation.
Olantia
13-08-2005, 14:37
I guess Olantia and others
would like to live in such a nation.
No, thank you. I already did. BTW, why it occurred to you that I'm a Castro supporter?
Monkeypimp
13-08-2005, 14:43
Fidels the coolest dictator around :cool:
Pablicosta
13-08-2005, 14:50
I guess Olantia and others
would like to live in such a nation.


Yeah, actually I would. Given the choice between moving to the States or moving to Cuba I'd choose Cuba every time.


Aren't there some other countries in the world to trade with?

Yes, but surely you acknowledge that the USA is the biggest trading partner anyone can have? As much as I hate that fact, it's true. Please don't scream Saudi...


Also, something I found out when I was in Cuba, for those of you who use the broken record argument of "Castro wrecked Cuba's economy"...

Cuba currently produces arround 70% of all its essential resources, and Castro has them well on the way to putting that figure at 90%. Thats progress.
Anyway, who would you guys rather have in charge, Batista? No. I presume you would like Bush to invade and rape the land of anything it has before appointing a US controlled Government who arn't really concerned with the welfare of Cuba, but instead care about pleasing the US controlers?
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 14:53
I dont understand why you wished
Fidel Castro a happy birthday in the poll
and the anti Fidel Castro posts you make?

I La Habana Cuba am Nice---Land,
I have 29 nations so far,
when I log in to another nation sometimes
this nation shows up on the forums,
I have to be more careful on noticing that,
a technical problem I guess.

I hope you see this post.

La Habana Cuba









I made a mistake on my first post
it should have been Jeruselem.
Olantia
13-08-2005, 14:54
...
Yes, but surely you acknowledge that the USA is the biggest trading partner anyone can have? As much as I hate that fact, it's true. Please don't scream Saudi...


Also, something I found out when I was in Cuba, for those of you who use the broken record argument of "Castro wrecked Cuba's economy"...

Cuba currently produces arround 70% of all its essential resources, and Castro has them well on the way to putting that figure at 90%. Thats progress.
Anyway, who would you guys rather have in charge, Batista? No. I presume you would like Bush to invade and rape the land of anything it has before appointing a US controlled Government who arn't really concerned with the welfare of Cuba, but instead care about pleasing the US controlers?
If I am not a supporter of Castro, it doesn't mean that I'm a fan of the Bushes. The situation in Cuba is improving now? Very well.
Olantia
13-08-2005, 14:56
I dont understand why you wished
Fidel Castro a happy birthday in the poll
and the anti Fidel Castro posts you make?

...
Common courtesy. :) And we Russians really liked him in the 1960s... He was a big celebrity here.

But I also shan't fawn over the man who urged Khrushchev to commence a nuclear holocaust.
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 15:03
So why do cubans in Cuba ask
thier relatives in the USA and Europe
to send them everything they need,
from eyeglasses, medicine, food,
and even toiltet paper, I am not '
exsagerating.

The so called US embargo
that hardly exsists anymore.

Did you stay in the zones
for tourists only?

In the hotels for tourists only?

Did you stay in the home with an average
cuban family like my relatives in Cuba,
where the electric power goes off every day?
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 15:15
without mentioning any names.

My girl cousin in Cuba works
in a government office for
a government company.

She works with computers,
she has a job that is better than mine,
a job that would pay good anywhere
in the world except Cuba and
she rides a bicycle to work.

She is allowed at work to send e-mails
to me from work, as long as she dosent
say anything bad, she can ask me to send
her aid packages including money in hard currency
as most cubans in Cuba ask us to do to help them out.

I have never said or implied anything political,
recently I got a message back from my
computer system that said
blocked for political reasons,
and I am not the first or the last one
this has happend too.
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 15:22
I called an uncle of mine one day
on the phone, not to many people
have phones, it kept ringing and ringing.

When he finaly answerd the phone,
he said sorry I took so long,
the house was so dark I could not find the phone.

That is just some of the exsamples we
Cuban Americans can offer and share with you all.
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 15:27
I appreciate your anti Fidel Castro posts,
but Fidel Castro would have no
common courtesy for your points of view,
just think of the common courtesy
he would have for me, with my points of view.
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 15:30
I would like to stick oround and
make some more posts on this
and other threads, but I have
to go for now and take care of other
important government business,
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 18:19
I guess 40 of my fellow nations, 65.57 percent
would like to live in a nation like Cuba,
would like their nation of origin to be like Cuba.

They have that right,
but I feel sorry for them.

I welcome all telegrams
of all nations on any subject
anytime.

La Habana Cuba
DHomme
13-08-2005, 18:27
Fuck you Fidel. Let's get the Workers in control of the state shall we?
La Habana Cuba
13-08-2005, 18:41
i guess those nations dont believe my posts
or do they?

La Habana Cuba

All nations are also welcome to
telegram me on any subject anytime
to the nation of
Miami Lakes.
La Habana Cuba
Chechle
13-08-2005, 18:42
I wish happy, happy bithday to Fidel Castro. He is a living legend, no matter what others may think of him. Defying america is certainly an action to greet.

By the way, I don't want to brag but I wrote a letter to Fidel two years ago and I received an answer together with a photo and his personal autograph.

Viva el communismo!

You did?!! Can I have his address? I've always wanted to write to him. Will he reply in English?
Lands de Friedens
13-08-2005, 18:50
Why is it that everyone has to hate everyone else's leader? We hate Castro, Saddam, and Hitler, and everyone but Canada hates Bush.

Why can't we all just get along? *smiles*
Carops
13-08-2005, 18:50
Congratulations Fidel, you have served a long and eventful presidency as one of Earth's foulest and most difficult stains. May your old age prevent you from taking any further role in the world and your death bring some clarity on what a mistake your ideals were.
Carops
13-08-2005, 18:51
Why is it that everyone has to hate everyone else's leader? We hate Castro, Saddam, and Hitler, and everyone but Canada hates Bush.

Why can't we all just get along? *smiles*

I don't hate bush ...
Alablablania
13-08-2005, 18:58
i dont wish Castro a happy birthday, but i would like to give him a present. Preferably a cake...spiked with arsenic.
Lands de Friedens
13-08-2005, 19:00
I don't hate bush ...

Most countries do. I'm actually a conservative, I was just generalizing.

*have a nice day*
Zapatistand
13-08-2005, 19:04
Castro and his braying jackass sidekick Hugo Chavez are both raving idiots who are obviously schizophrenic. Ignore the idiots.

They controll your Oil Prices even more than OPEC does. Have fun ignoring them.
Markreich
13-08-2005, 19:43
They controll your Oil Prices even more than OPEC does. Have fun ignoring them.

Actually, even OPEC doesn't control oil prices at this point. They're running at capacity... possibly even exceeding what their capacity should be.
La Habana Cuba
14-08-2005, 08:04
Thank you Markreich for that
great link on page 2 post 26.

I guess some of our fellow nations
would like to live in a nation like that,
and would like thier nation of origin
to be like that.

But in their nation of origin
they have that right.

La Habana Cuba
La Habana Cuba
14-08-2005, 17:46
Cuba is governed by a
psychotic dictator personality
who outlaws just about everything,
while denying his brothers and sisters
all the rights and privileges
he bestows on foreigners,
while treating his brothers and sisters
as his little playthings,
while helping other nations
with educators and doctors
at the expense of his own
brothers and sisters.

La Habana Cuba
La Habana Cuba
14-08-2005, 21:46
Cuba is governed by a
psychotic dictator personality
who outlaws just about everything,
while denying his brothers and sisters
all the rights and privileges
he bestows on foreigners,
while treating his brothers and sisters
as his little playthings,
while helping other nations
with educators and doctors
at the expanse of his own
brothers and sisters
to fulfill his own ego.
La Habana Cuba
14-08-2005, 21:50
Cuba's new crackdown

OUR OPINION: TELL REGIME: POLITICAL PRISONERS ARE NOT FORGOTTEN

The Miami Herald

Friday Aug 5th / 2005



Once again, Cuba is detaining dissidents and charging them with crimes that don't exist in any free country on Earth.

Some might tire of hearing the same old news, as if jailing people for peacefully criticizing an abusive government is normal. We tire of the dictator who continues to violate the human rights of Cubans and yet is courted like a rock star in parts of this region.

René Gómez Manzano, Oscar Mario González and Julio César López deserve better. The three prominent Cuban dissidents were arrested before they even had a chance to make it to a pro-democracy protest. Now they are being prosecuted under the same law used to punish 75 peaceful dissidents with lengthy prison terms in 2003.

Media throughout the world took notice of that crackdown, and calls to release the political prisoners rained down on the Cuban regime. Last year, the regime released 14 of those 75 prisoners, and the European Union rewarded it by lifting sanctions it had imposed because of the crackdown. The regime, though, hasn't changed its stripes.

Now Messrs. Gómez, González and López are among the 15 activists detained in connection with two peaceful protests in July. Their charges allege that they were involved in causing a ''public disorder.'' In reality, pro-government mobs were the ones beating on the dissidents.

Mr. Gómez already has served three years in prison for co-writing The Homeland Belongs to Us All, a critique of Cuba's one-party rule. Mr. González is a respected independent journalist. Mr. López is a pro-democracy militant with an independent library. Their ideas are dangerous only to a regime built on repression and lies.
Markreich
14-08-2005, 21:59
Thank you Markreich for that
great link on page 2 post 26.

I guess some of our fellow nations
would like to live in a nation like that,
and would like thier nation of origin
to be like that.

But in their nation of origin
they have that right.

La Habana Cuba

I'm a Slovak living in the US, and am an American citizen.
My people (the Czechoslovaks, then) mostly did not want Communism. Nor did the Poles or East Germans or Hungarians I met in my travels "behind the iron curtain" in the early 80s.

I can only assume that the Cubans, also know that Communism is bad, but are kept in check by an overzealous government.
Klacktoveetasteen
14-08-2005, 22:04
For those who think that Cuba was better off before Fidel (who isn't a saint), they should look at the resume of the guy before him- Fulgencio Batista Zaldívar. A huge bastard who oppressed the Cubans, only with US approval...

http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/batista.htm
New Granada
15-08-2005, 04:06
I smoked a cuban cigar to celebrate.
La Habana Cuba
15-08-2005, 04:53
Yes the US government supported
Fulgencio's Batista's dictatorship government,
but those were diffrent times
and diffrent presidents.

I am talking about what is need now.
La Habana Cuba
16-08-2005, 14:07
Thank you to all
who have voted on this poll
and or posted on this thread.

La Habana Cuba
Seosavists
16-08-2005, 14:25
Castro and his braying jackass sidekick Hugo Chavez are both raving idiots who are obviously schizophrenic. Ignore the idiots.
Hugo Chavez was elected democraticly.
But of course he's evil cos he's socialist and wants to use oil money for social programms. :rolleyes:
And there was a CIA coup to get rid of Chavez didn't work though so I fail to see how he's schizophrenic.
La Habana Cuba
16-08-2005, 15:01
The problem with Hugo Chavez
and Fidel Castro is they rule
like dictators not democratic leaders.

They outlaw all political partys but their own,
ok in Hugo Chavez's case that has not happend yet
but give him time.

I will post another post
as soon as I can get the facts on
the results of Venezuela's
recent election where according
to the semi independent election authorities
the voting participation was very low because
the opposition did not have confidence
in the fairness of the election process.

Naturally Chavez's supporters won
big in that election where most voters
who are against Chavez did not vote.

My fellow nations who defend and wish
President Fidel Castro a happy birthday would not have
the political rights they enjoy now
in their nation of origin if they were
average citizens of Cuba.

They would not even be allowed to own
a personal home computer and participate
in a site like Nationstates which would not be allowed.

They would not be allowed to
have cable and or satelite dishes.
Werteswandel
16-08-2005, 15:07
La Habana Cuba: how many elections and referenda does Chavez have to win before he's acknowledged as a democratic leader? Get a grip.
Werteswandel
16-08-2005, 15:08
Hopefully this will be his last birthday and the poor oppressed people of Cuba will again be free.
Hahahahah! Consider, dearie... Cuba is no ideal country, but Christ almighty it's better than many countries that don't receive half the shit and bile from the US and EU.
La Habana Cuba
16-08-2005, 15:25
And look at the poll numbers of my fellow nations
wishing Fidel Castro a happy birthday go up,
the same one who would deny them the
political rights they now have in their nation of origin.

Do you really believe you would have
all the political, economic, social freedoms
you have now in your nation of origin
under Chavez and Castro?

I guess you all dont believe that part
about not been allowed to have a
personal home computer, cable, satelite dishes,
and a site like nationstates.

About powerblack outs everyday despite
Venezuela selling oil to Cuba at lower prices
with preferential terms of payment.
Werteswandel
16-08-2005, 15:29
No... listen, honeybunch. Chavez (I'm not arguing for Castro here) is a repeatedly democratically elected leader. You're making a fool of yourself by declaring him a dictator.

And why do you assume I want all the economic freedom that my country has?
Mekonia
16-08-2005, 15:34
Thought I doubt Fidel checks these forums regularly, Happy Birthday Fidel!

.


Of course he does?? What else would he be up too?
Any one remember that fantastic simpsons episode where Burns stole the trillion dollar bill? and Fidel tried to steal it!
Relative Power
22-08-2005, 01:48
I might be convinced to wish him a happy birthday if he would open up the political prisons and gulags and let the people out, so that the idiot leftist of America could see what a real gulag is.


Well you wrote this moren a few days ago

but still

it is unfair to ask him to open up the political prisons and gulags
when you know he has no control whatsoever over guantanamo.

That job is your namesakes in spirit GW
Lotus Puppy
22-08-2005, 02:10
The guy has been alive for all these years. Can he die sometime in my lifetime?
Tograna
22-08-2005, 17:19
I don't don't like Castro because of the Bay of Pigs. As much as I think it's stupid to brag about events in a previous century.

I'm just a bit annoyed at him claiming America is out to kill him everytime I hear him talk about America. Jesus. Is that ALL the negative stuff he can talk about us?


so let me get this straight, you give weapons to a load of facist counter revolutionaries, they get pwned .... and its castro's fault .... lol