Would you vote for me?
I want to be the Prime Ministre of Canada. No joke; I'm dead serious about this. I think that I could serve my country well, and I obviously agree with my own political beliefs...
The question is, do I have a chance in Heck of becoming my nations leader?
I speak both official languages, care about the people, can hold my own in a debate, like and understand law, am friendly and charismatic, clean up nice...
So, what do you all think? Would you vote for me (if you were to vote in the Canadian federal elections)?
If you have a question about my stance on an issue, play the press and ask away.
Vegas-Rex
11-08-2005, 08:13
The only thing I know about you is what you were arguing on the shaving thread, and from that I deduce you'd be a great prime minister. Luckily for me I don't live in Canada.
Latouria
11-08-2005, 08:18
First, what party (if you say Conservatives, Liberals, Bloc or Christian Heritage Party, you've already lost my vote)?
Second, can you divulge any infrmation on any issues at all?
First, what party (if you say Conservatives, Liberals, Bloc or Christian Heritage Party, you've already lost my vote)?
Second, can you divulge any infrmation on any issues at all?I have been a card-carrying member of the NDP for a few years now, since I was 15. I have also campaigned in recent elections. I do not agree with them on all issues, but their views are as close to mine as you get in the Canadian political landscape.
I will do my best to answer any questions you have. Ask away.
Latouria
11-08-2005, 08:31
Good, you passed the first test :D
I have been a supporter of the NDP, although not a member for a few years, although I am becoming incresingly disillusioned with them because I feel that they are submitting to capitalism and moving too far to the right.
Here's a couple issues that I am concerned with:
Legalization of marijuana (and not just this half-assed "decriminalization" either)
Free post-secondary education (I am getting involved with the U of M Students Union in the fall, and will have to fight hard to even keep the status quo)
Fixing the healthcare system without privatization
I have been a supporter of the NDP, although not a member for a few years, although I am becoming incresingly disillusioned with them because I feel that they are submitting to capitalism and moving too far to the right.Agreed. The NDP is becoming a more and more established party. You'd think that'd be a good thing, but I think that they are just turning into the nouveau Liberals.
Legalization of marijuana (and not just this half-assed "decriminalization" either)Marihuana should be completely legal, and grown on government supervised farms (not government run, though, because when we tried that for the medical marihuana, the quality decreased significantly).
Free post-secondary education (I am getting involved with the U of M Students Union in the fall, and will have to fight hard to even keep the status quo)Free post-secondary career training (including university), and subsidised post-secondary education of all kinds. Interest-free loans, too. If you can get into university, money (or lack thereof) should not prevent you from educating yourself. If you are getting an education for the express purpose of career training (everything from medical training to the trades), your education should be free. In exchange for your free education, you would sign a contract to use your skills to benefit Canada for a set amount of time.
Fixing the healthcare system without privatizationFree education for doctors as described above. More funding. Privatization is not an option. The health care system has suffered from budget cuts for years now. There is no quick fix. We need to put more money into the system, and focus on keeping the Canadian population healthy so that they will be less dependent on Medicare. Preventative medicine, if you will. In the meantime, we will be paying for our past mistakes and for the solution.
Latouria
11-08-2005, 08:54
Wow, you sound almost exactly like me, except I speak only English, am somewhere between okay and crappy at debating, and am about as charismatic as Joe Clark. And I make a lot of Bush-esque mispronouciations, such as "ecomony" and "probly." You got my vote (unless I somehow defeat you for the nomination!). :D
Latouria
11-08-2005, 08:58
And by the time I gain any experience, I will probably have a drinking problem worse than Ralph Klein's (I like my vodka).
Tactical Grace
11-08-2005, 09:08
The real question is, to what extent would you appease the Americans? Where do you stand of NAFTA? It's that sort of thing which will decide whether future Canadian PMs are fit to rule.
Latouria
11-08-2005, 09:11
That is true. Please, for the love of god, don't sell us out like Mulroney!
Fischer Land
11-08-2005, 09:11
My question is whether or not you would take a tought stance with Washington. My major concern with a lot of the parties is that they all tend to bend towards America in a lot of aspects, meaning we tend to look like we want to appease them.
Oh, and how would you deal with the whole Denmark-Canada thing?
Compulsive Depression
11-08-2005, 09:19
The question is, do I have a chance in Heck of becoming my nations leader?
I'm not Canadian, but if your system's anything like the British one...
Nope. You don't shave your legs; this will come out in a smear campaign in a tabloid newspaper who will demonise you and nobody will vote for you.
Also, you don't sound nearly self-serving or smarmy enough.
Sorry :(
Fischer Land
11-08-2005, 09:23
Actually if you want to be a successfull prime minister, the three things you must do are...
1. Keep the Americans out
2. Keep the French in
3. And keep the natives hidden
That's what they all seem to be doing now a days. I'm also interested on how you might treat the First Nations people...
Edit: The great themes of Canadian history are as follows: Keeping the Americans out, keeping the French in, and trying to get the Natives to somehow disappear.
Rotovia-
11-08-2005, 09:25
Rotovia for the NationStates Daily...On the issue of women in active combat, where do you stand?
The real question is, to what extent would you appease the Americans? Where do you stand of NAFTA? It's that sort of thing which will decide whether future Canadian PMs are fit to rule.Appease the Americans? I will do nothing of the sort. I am more than willing to compromise for the greater good, but I will not do anything that is bad for my country because the American government would like me to. I would like to work closely with the Americans, and develop a more mutually benificial relationship.
I support the free movement of trade goods between Canada and the US, but the States need to hold up their end of the bargain. Tarrifs cannot be imposed on Canadian trade goods when it suits the Americans. If we are to have a free trade agreement, then we need to have completely free trade.
I'd vote for you!
But keep in mind that i may only be saying this because im not canadian and dont live anywhere near canada,and dont have any plans to so chances are im never going to vote in any canadian elections.
I'm also interested on how you might treat the First Nations people...
This is my question also.
Oh...and can you do something about the lack of appropriate bra sizes for us not-huge-but-bigger-than-an-A-cup women? :D
Would you vote for me (if you were to vote in the Canadian federal elections)?
You'd make gay porn even more plentiful, so you'd have my vote even if you bit the head off a baby.
Dobbsworld
11-08-2005, 22:07
If you have a question about my stance on an issue, play the press and ask away.
As Leader of the winning Party, what precisely will the government be doing to encourage diversification of our international trading partners, and will we still be participating in the fruitless NAFTA and Free Trade agreements that our current largest trading partner, the United States, have yet to abide by in an honest manner? What timetable will your government be working by to demand the United States government abide by previous rulings of the WTO regarding these treaty violations?
My question is whether or not you would take a tought stance with Washington. My major concern with a lot of the parties is that they all tend to bend towards America in a lot of aspects, meaning we tend to look like we want to appease them.I would like to be as accomodating as possible in order to maintain as good a working relationship with Washington as possible, but it must work both ways. We should be able to expect that they will return the favour, and do their best to accomodate us. As I said in my last post, I will not do anything that is not in Canada's best interest for the sake of "appeasing" the Americans. At the same time, I refuse to be obtuse and uncooperative just to make a point. The relationship between our two countries should be friendly, cooperative and mutually beneficial.
Oh, and how would you deal with the whole Denmark-Canada thing?As far as I know, the land currently in dispute between our two countries was never officially claimed by either party. We need to work with Denmark to decide who has rights to it, or if it would be possible to share whatever resources may be there. We also need to make it very clear that in the future, we expect to be addressed directly concerning land that we consider to be ours. The way that the Danish government has gone about trying to establish ownership of the land in question is unacceptable.
Carnivorous Lickers
11-08-2005, 22:15
You'd make gay porn even more plentiful, so you'd have my vote even if you bit the head off a baby.
The clip of her biting off the baby's head would be played at the start of all gay porn, right after the Interpol warning. And you wouldnt be able to fast foward through it.
And will you still allow us access to you through the NS forum once you have been elected? :cool:
The clip of her biting off the baby's head would be played at the start of all gay porn, right after the Interpol warning. And you wouldnt be able to fast foward through it.
That wouldn't bother me. Gay porn is worth it.
Carnivorous Lickers
11-08-2005, 22:18
Oh...and can you do something about the lack of appropriate bra sizes for us not-huge-but-bigger-than-an-A-cup women? :D
maybe she could consider me for Minister of Brassieres. I'm sure with careful inspections and registration, I could get most well-endowed women fitted in comfortable bras before her term was up.
Carnivorous Lickers
11-08-2005, 22:19
That wouldn't bother me.
You were supposed to laugh.
That was fucking funny.
You were supposed to laugh.
That was fucking funny.
If you have to tell people it's funny... :fluffle:
Defuscon
11-08-2005, 22:26
Can't vote for anyone who can't spell minister right!
Carnivorous Lickers
11-08-2005, 22:27
If you have to tell people it's funny... :fluffle:
You!!! :eek:
You!!! :eek:
I'm people, dammit!
I'm people, dammit!
I think he's surprised because you fluffled him. In public:).
Carnivorous Lickers
11-08-2005, 22:30
I'm people, dammit!
I know, I know....just like I'm not an animal.
I think he's surprised because you fluffled him. In public:).
With a name like "Carnivorous Lickers" I'd think he'd be a bit less prude.
With a name like "Carnivorous Lickers" I'd think he'd be a bit less prude.
He just doesn't want people thinking he's one of 'teh gays' :D
He just doesn't want people thinking he's one of 'teh gays' :D
Too late for that! :p
I know, I know....just like I'm not an animal.
But you are. We all are.
Brians Test
11-08-2005, 22:46
Here's my question:
What sorts of things do you do to help people NOW? Be very specific, but do not exclude mentioning:
1. what percentage of your total net income goes toward charity/donations (and giving to political organizations is NOT considered charity)--describe which specific organizations you current give money to.
2. what sort of goodwill organizations you donate your time to. Describe how much time you spend doing what specific activities with what specific organizations.
3. You can probably see what I'm getting at with these questions. Politicians tend to say that they want to get into politics because they care about people or think they can help people in this way or blah blah blah, but it all comes down to the fact that they just like the power because they don't otherwise give anything back to their community. If you're one of those people, I strongly suggest that you first come to terms with the fact that you're in this only for yourself--and you're only fooling yourself. If you can be proud of your answers, I would be proud to support you.
The WYN starcluster
11-08-2005, 22:47
I want to be the Prime Ministre of Canada.
{snip}
So, what do you all think? Would you vote for me
{snip}
Already have. Write ins are a wonderful thing. 'Course it was for our board of chosen freeloaders, not the PM; but, I am sure it all works out in the end.
The WYN starcluster
11-08-2005, 22:56
Here is my question. Have you ever been responsible for a (political or otherwise) payroll?
:(
Frangland
11-08-2005, 22:59
I want to be the Prime Ministre of Canada. No joke; I'm dead serious about this. I think that I could serve my country well, and I obviously agree with my own political beliefs...
The question is, do I have a chance in Heck of becoming my nations leader?
I speak both official languages, care about the people, can hold my own in a debate, like and understand law, am friendly and charismatic, clean up nice...
So, what do you all think? Would you vote for me (if you were to vote in the Canadian federal elections)?
If you have a question about my stance on an issue, play the press and ask away.
What is your view on the redistribution of wealth?
and
How would you propose to keep people off the welfare rolls so as to minimize the necessity for the redistribution of wealth?
Actually if you want to be a successfull prime minister, the three things you must do are...
1. Keep the Americans out
2. Keep the French in
3. And keep the natives hidden
That's what they all seem to be doing now a days. I'm also interested on how you might treat the First Nations people...
Edit: The great themes of Canadian history are as follows: Keeping the Americans out, keeping the French in, and trying to get the Natives to somehow disappear.I have no intention of following in the footsteps of previous Prime Ministres who have mistreated or marginalized our Native populations. I will treat our First Nations with the respect they deserve, and let them decide how they will deal with the problems within their communities. I will facilitate the healing of Native culture and peoples, but I refuse to dictate to the Native elders. It is up to them to decide how to fix their problems. My government will offer them any assistance that they ask for, but I do not want to interfere where we are not welcome. We need to learn from the past. The interference in Native affairs by Europeans (well-meaning or not) has never been beneficial. Part of the solution to the issues faced by our Native populations is restoration of self-governance.
Rotovia for the NationStates Daily...On the issue of women in active combat, where do you stand?If a woman can meet the same physical requirements as are required of any soldier, they have proved themselves to be just as capable of fighting for their country as any man.
Oh...and can you do something about the lack of appropriate bra sizes for us not-huge-but-bigger-than-an-A-cup women? :DDone.
Can't vote for anyone who can't spell minister right!Oops.
Ministre is French, so it's not the end of the world.
Sabbatis
11-08-2005, 23:46
Free post-secondary career training (including university), and subsidised post-secondary education of all kinds. Interest-free loans, too. If you can get into university, money (or lack thereof) should not prevent you from educating yourself. If you are getting an education for the express purpose of career training (everything from medical training to the trades), your education should be free. In exchange for your free education, you would sign a contract to use your skills to benefit Canada for a set amount of time.
Free education for doctors as described above. More funding. Privatization is not an option. The health care system has suffered from budget cuts for years now. There is no quick fix. We need to put more money into the system, and focus on keeping the Canadian population healthy so that they will be less dependent on Medicare. Preventative medicine, if you will. In the meantime, we will be paying for our past mistakes and for the solution.
I'm American, so I won't be voting, but I wish you the best. Here are a few hard questions you will be asked.
Now, the programs you propose will be quite expensive. They will also require considerable Parliamentary support, which you must gain.
Can you get support for this in Parliament, what will you need to compromise to get it?
How much will this cost (just ball-park it using simple math)?
Do you propose to raise taxes, how much (simple estimate)?
Will you cut programs or reduce spending elsewhere to accomplish this? What effects will this have on your economy, both short and long-term?
What are your views regarding military spending and why?
Your views on military involvement abroad, i.e. terrorism?
Your views on trading liberty for freedom, i.e. baggage checks, phone taps, etc.?
How do you think of regulatory reforms to prevent another scandal in Parliament?
As Leader of the winning Party, what precisely will the government be doing to encourage diversification of our international trading partners, and will we still be participating in the fruitless NAFTA and Free Trade agreements that our current largest trading partner, the United States, have yet to abide by in an honest manner? What timetable will your government be working by to demand the United States government abide by previous rulings of the WTO regarding these treaty violations?I will not pretend to know how to go about it, but I do recognize the need to diversify, and become less dependent on any one country. It is a priority for me to ensure that the Canadian economy will remain stable despite any economic troubles suffered by our trading partners, or any diplomatic troubles that we may have with them.
As I said in an earlier post, while I would like to foster a healthy working relationship between the US and Canada, I expect it to be a two-way street. We should be able to expect the US to abide by NAFTA. There is no timetable. The time is now. The US needs to be more fair in its dealings with our country, or we will be forced to trade with other countries that we can trust to treat us fairly.
Though we have every right to expect the US to conform to trade agreements, it is not up to us to hold them to their promises. If they continue to show themselves to be untrustworthy, we will have to take our buisness elsewhere.
And will you still allow us access to you through the NS forum once you have been elected? :cool:The people should be able to communicate directly with their government. Whether it be through this or some other medium, I will ensure that all Canadians can speak directly to me or other Members of Parliment on any concerns they have.
Sumamba Buwhan
12-08-2005, 00:25
Appease the Americans? I will do nothing of the sort. I am more than willing to compromise for the greater good, but I will not do anything that is bad for my country because the American government would like me to. I would like to work closely with the Americans, and develop a more mutually benificial relationship.
I support the free movement of trade goods between Canada and the US, but the States need to hold up their end of the bargain. Tarrifs cannot be imposed on Canadian trade goods when it suits the Americans. If we are to have a free trade agreement, then we need to have completely free trade.
YOu have my vote (from the US) :fluffle:
Here's my question:
What sorts of things do you do to help people NOW? Be very specific, but do not exclude mentioning:
1. what percentage of your total net income goes toward charity/donations (and giving to political organizations is NOT considered charity)--describe which specific organizations you current give money to..My current net income being less than a thousand dollars a year, I do not think that my answer will say much about me... I donate money to World Vision, Unicef, and The Salvation Army. Small donations whenever I can. I usually donate about $40 or $50, in toonies and loonies, to the Salvation Army each Christmas when I am in the mall so much... I'd estimate that I donate about 5% of my income to charity. That will change when I actually have money.
2. what sort of goodwill organizations you donate your time to. Describe how much time you spend doing what specific activities with what specific organizations.I am a member of the youth steering council of my community centre, and spend a few hours a week organizing community fundraisers etc. I have also recently done a little letter writing for Amnesty International.
What is your view on the redistribution of wealth?I believe that the rich should be taxed more than the poor, if that is what you mean by wealth redistribution. The fact that people living under the poverty line pay taxes is absurd.
How would you propose to keep people off the welfare rolls so as to minimize the necessity for the redistribution of wealth?As a student who has had several friends on the dole at various points in time, I know that it is not by choice that most people end up on welfare. It's hard to get a job, especially if you are uneducated. I would gladly have done whatever work the government had for me rather than spend the last few months unemployed. I was not on welfare, but I was still one of the many Canadians who are unemployed, and unable to find work. If the government is going to help you out and pay your bills untill you can get a good job, you should be put to work.
Here is my question. Have you ever been responsible for a (political or otherwise) payroll?
:(No. Why do you ask?
Brians Test
12-08-2005, 00:53
My current net income being less than a thousand dollars a year, I do not think that my answer will say much about me... I donate money to World Vision, Unicef, and The Salvation Army. Small donations whenever I can. I usually donate about $40 or $50, in toonies and loonies, to the Salvation Army each Christmas when I am in the mall so much... I'd estimate that I donate about 5% of my income to charity. That will change when I actually have money.
I am a member of the youth steering council of my community centre, and spend a few hours a week organizing community fundraisers etc. I have also recently done a little letter writing for Amnesty International.
Not bad.
The WYN starcluster
12-08-2005, 01:03
No. Why do you ask?
Well. I asked somewhat snidely, for which I apologise. To the point though - perhaps the job of P.M. can be boiled down to nothing more than ... encouraging ... your supporters. Sure, there is more to it; but, without the skills & experience to do this, you may find it impossible to get *anything* done in office.
So if you're really interested in getting yourself voted in, try being responsible for "meeting the payroll" sometime. It will help.
And yes, I am rather leaning on the word "encouraging." The word "reward" might be somewhat better and yet misses the point a bit as well.
Melonious Ones
12-08-2005, 01:04
I am in the US and consequently cannot vote for you if you ran now. I do intend to become a Canadian citizen within the next decade though. (I'll move to Montreal for college and prolly end up living there)
I am curious how old you are currently, how old you have to be to be PM (sorry, I am an ignorant American who knows nothing about Canadian laws and history), and how far away your campaign will be? I think it would be interesting if you got elected. So far I like your positions as well.
Where do you stand on animal rights?
Dobbsworld
12-08-2005, 01:10
IThough we have every right to expect the US to conform to trade agreements, it is not up to us to hold them to their promises. If they continue to show themselves to be untrustworthy, we will have to take our buisness elsewhere.
Well, that works for me.
Though from a personal point of view, I'd like to see the single motivating factor behind the original Free Trade agreement - for the US, that is - the conversion of water from 'natural resource' to 'commodity' overturned completely.
We need better protections, Prime Minister, better protections for our aquifers. We can't allow our natural resources to be profited from by unscrupulous multinationals, or commandeered by foreign governments.
At least, not our fresh water.
I am curious how old you are currently, how old you have to be to be PM (sorry, I am an ignorant American who knows nothing about Canadian laws and history), and how far away your campaign will be? I think it would be interesting if you got elected. So far I like your positions as well.I am seventeen, soon to be 18. I think that you have to legally be an adult to run the country... But I somehow doubt that a teenage will ever be elected. I still have some time to kill in the interim.
Where do you stand on animal rights?I'm a vegan, and I think that people should be put in prison for mistreating animals (in large part because so many serial killers tortured animals before they ever hurt a person). I consider myself to be an animal rights activist. I am against animal testing.
If I were Canadian, I would not vote for you.
Why?
You are asking me if I would vote for you, as if you are searching for some kind of validation. If you are truly going to be a good leader, you must be confident. Obviously, you aren't confident enough, else you'd just go out, rally support and run.
If I were Canadian, I would not vote for you.
Why?
You are asking me if I would vote for you, as if you are searching for some kind of validation. If you are truly going to be a good leader, you must be confident. Obviously, you aren't confident enough, else you'd just go out, rally support and run.I'm 17. I can't run yet.
Eutrusca
12-08-2005, 02:26
Appease the Americans? I will do nothing of the sort. I am more than willing to compromise for the greater good, but I will not do anything that is bad for my country because the American government would like me to. I would like to work closely with the Americans, and develop a more mutually benificial relationship.
I support the free movement of trade goods between Canada and the US, but the States need to hold up their end of the bargain. Tarrifs cannot be imposed on Canadian trade goods when it suits the Americans. If we are to have a free trade agreement, then we need to have completely free trade.
Now see? I'm an American and I completely agree with this! Good job! :)
Dobbsworld
12-08-2005, 02:27
I'm 17. I can't run yet.
Good comeback. Now what about the aquifers and overturning Free Trade to protect our natural resources, Mr. PM? enquiring minds wanna know, or something.
*sparks a bowl, waiting*
Eutrusca
12-08-2005, 02:28
maybe she could consider me for Minister of Brassieres. I'm sure with careful inspections and registration, I could get most well-endowed women fitted in comfortable bras before her term was up.
And would be more than willing to give your all for the cause, yes? :D
Eutrusca
12-08-2005, 02:31
If a woman can meet the same physical requirements as are required of any soldier, they have proved themselves to be just as capable of fighting for their country as any man.
YES! [ does a lil dance ]
Yayyy, Prime Minister Ozwana! Hell, I may just move to Canada so I can vote for you! :D
Good comeback. Now what about the aquifers and overturning Free Trade to protect our natural resources, Mr. PM? enquiring minds wanna know, or something.
*sparks a bowl, waiting*Miss PM, to you. Pass that, eh?
Dobbsworld
12-08-2005, 02:44
Miss PM, to you. Pass that, eh?
Apologies Madame Prime Minister. Mine eyes hath been blinded by your meteoric rise to the PMO. Congrats on your future success, btw.
Oh, what would you say to Senate Reform (mollify the caucus as well as the hardcore ReformaTories with this one), by making it a 100-seat body comprised entirely by popular vote - so, 21% support nationwide for the NDP would result in 21 NDP Senators to be appointed by the Party Leader, or 2% support for the Greens resulting in 2 Green Senators (good for representation if Parties fail in the 'first-past-the-post' system in use in the Commons?
*draws heavily, offers bowl*
Though from a personal point of view, I'd like to see the single motivating factor behind the original Free Trade agreement - for the US, that is - the conversion of water from 'natural resource' to 'commodity' overturned completely.They can't have it. If they were in need of water to drink and were going to die without it, of course we'd share. But no, they cannot have our water for as long as they continue to waste their own, and they cannot bottle and maket it, either. End of story.
Oh, what would you say to Senate Reform (mollify the caucus as well as the hardcore ReformaTories with this one), by making it a 100-seat body comprised entirely by popular vote - so, 21% support nationwide for the NDP would result in 21 NDP Senators to be appointed by the Party Leader, or 2% support for the Greens resulting in 2 Green Senators (good for representation if Parties fail in the 'first-past-the-post' system in use in the Commons?Proportional representation. Of course.
*draws heavily, offers bowl**tokes*
*starts to ramble*
YES! [ does a lil dance ]
Yayyy, Prime Minister Ozwana! Hell, I may just move to Canada so I can vote for you! :DYou can be my Official American Interpreter.
The WYN starcluster
12-08-2005, 02:56
*draws heavily, offers bowl*
Yer far more talented than I gave you credit for! *That's* the way to motovate your supporters!
Yer far more talented than I gave you credit for! *That's* the way to motovate your supporters!Smoking is for political discussions. Helps you open your mind. You can be motivated all the time. It's not healthy.
Dobbsworld
12-08-2005, 03:30
Smoking is for political discussions. Helps you open your mind.
I think during Question Period there should be a 'passing-of-the-pipe'-type ritual before addressing the Commons, wherever personal custom permits. I'd feel a lot better about arguments heard and policies delivered by representatives enjoying a tight focus on the issues at hand. Other than opening the mind (and allowing for lateral associations) the lovely cannibinoids do tend, under the right circumstances to prove a form of thought-focusing tool as well - at least in my long experience it has, anyway.
Pass the Pipe to address the Speaker, smoke it or not. Besides, it'd be cool to see someone like Bill Blaikie take a big haul and still manage to deliver a retort with no external sign of inebriation, while a little fellow like John McAllum would probably end up bursting out laughing halfway through his rebuff.
*need munchies*