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Signed up for your trip around the moon yet? Call "Space Adventures" now!

Eutrusca
10-08-2005, 14:40
COMMENTARY: First it was Virgin Galactic (http://www.virgingalactic.com/en/) offering sub-orbital ( and later orbital ) flights. Now it's Space Adventures (http://www.spaceadventures.com/) offering a flight around the moon! This is exactly the direction space exploration will have to take to become something more than a government-sponsored oddity.


Private Company Plans $100 Million Tour Around the Moon (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/science/space/10private.html?th&emc=th)


By JOHN SCHWARTZ
Published: August 10, 2005

One day after NASA brought the shuttle Discovery back from low Earth orbit, a private company plans to announce a more audacious venture, a tourist trip around the Moon.

Space Adventures, a company based in Arlington, Va., has already sent two tourists into orbit. Today, it is to unveil an agreement with Russian space officials to send two passengers on a voyage lasting 10 to 21 days, depending partly on its itinerary and whether it includes the International Space Station.

A roundtrip ticket will cost $100 million.

The space-faring tourists will travel with a Russian pilot. They will steer clear of the greater technical challenge of landing on the Moon, instead circling it and returning to Earth.

Eric Anderson, the chief executive of Space Adventures, said he believed the trip could be accomplished as early as 2008. Mr. Anderson said he had already received expressions of interest from a few potential clients.

The Soyuz vehicle to be used does not have the power to reach the Moon on its own, so the Russians have devised a plan to send up a booster. The Soyuz would dock with the booster, either in low Earth orbit or at the International Space Station.

The booster would take the passengers the rest of the way. The price of the two tickets, Mr. Anderson said, would pay for the costs of the Moon shot. His company's demographic research, he said, suggests that 500 to 1,000 people in the world can afford to do this.

"It's the same number of people who could afford to buy a $100 million yacht," Mr. Anderson added. Two people who have already paid Space Adventures to go into orbit, at a reported $20 million apiece, applauded the new initiative though they said they were not sure they would try the Moon orbit.

Dennis Tito, a financier who in 2001 became the first space tourist, said that he found the idea fascinating but added that he doubted he would make such a trip. Having just turned 65, and with the Moon orbit at least a few years away, he said he might be too old for the rigors of the voyage.

"I would be considering it if I were younger, and I had that kind of money to spare," Mr. Tito said.

Another Space Adventures client, Greg Olsen, who made millions in the sale of his camera technology company, Sensors Unlimited, is preparing to visit the space station for several days in October. Of the Moon trip, he said, "It's certainly intriguing, and it's something I'd like to do."

Will he buy a ticket, then? "One trip at a time," he replied.

The trip seems feasible, said Dr. John M. Logsdon, director of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University. "As a nontechnical person, I don't see any technical showstoppers," Dr. Logsdon said, "if people are crazy enough to do it."

And, he added, it would make "a lot of money for the Russians."

Christopher C. Kraft, a former director of the Johnson Space Center, said his feelings about the enterprise were mixed. "I think it would be a fantastic journey," he said. "I could see why, if I had the price of the ticket and could use the money that way, that it would be tempting to go."

But Mr. Kraft added that the flight would be cramped and probably extremely unpleasant. With three people in a small Soyuz craft for an extended trip, he said, "I imagine that you could endure that, but, man, it would be tough."

Mr. Anderson of Space Adventures said the craft had about as much room as a sport utility vehicle. "Will it be cramped? Yes," he said. "But will it be doable? Yes."

He noted that the Gemini capsule was smaller than the Soyuz, and that the astronauts James A. Lovell and Frank Borman orbited the Earth for 14 days in the Gemini 7 mission in 1965.

But Mr. Kraft, who was the flight director for that mission, recalled that Mr. Lovell and Mr. Borman were miserable. They complained bitterly that the trip was like "14 days in a men's room," and Mr. Kraft said that he had to talk them out of ending the mission early. "They wanted to get out of there," he said.

Mr. Anderson said the timing of the announcement was not meant to tweak the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. "We believe private space flight and space exploration can go hand in hand, and can coexist and benefit each other," he said. Government, he said, should focus "on things that private companies cannot do," like exploring other planets. His company's system, he said, could eventually be a subcontractor, offering transportation services to a government Moon base.

"I just love the idea of demonstrating that things can be done for less money than people thought, and paradigms can be shifted," he said. "Space flight can be opened up."
Daistallia 2104
10-08-2005, 15:43
Beat you to this one. ;)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437055
Naturality
10-08-2005, 15:44
Good Morning Eutrusca :)
Eutrusca
10-08-2005, 15:47
Good Morning Eutrusca :)
Yo! Mawnin', fellow Tar-Heel! :D

Wuzzup?
Eutrusca
10-08-2005, 15:50
Beat you to this one. ;)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437055
Hmmm. So you did! If you're female, that's probably deserving of a lil spankie. If you're male, just KMA! ROFLMAO! :D
Naturality
10-08-2005, 15:51
Yo! Mawnin', fellow Tar-Heel! :D

Wuzzup?


LOL! Not much hehe, enjoying the mornin'.
Laerod
10-08-2005, 15:55
Cool! Can we start buying real-estate on the moon again soon? :D
Eutrusca
10-08-2005, 15:55
LOL! Not much hehe, enjoying the mornin'.
Me too. It's another in that never-ending series of fantastic Carolina Mawnin's. Even if it rains in Carolina, it's still all good. God, I love living here! :D

Ya jus know God's gotta be a TarHeel, else why's the sky Carolina Blue? :D
Eutrusca
10-08-2005, 15:57
Cool! Can we start buying real-estate on the moon again soon? :D
Sure! As a matter of fact, I've got a few thousand hectares over near Mare Imbrium that I'm willing to let you have for a song! :D
Laerod
10-08-2005, 15:58
Sure! As a matter of fact, I've got a few thousand hectares over near Mare Imbrium that I'm willing to let you have for a song! :DI'm suspicious... If you had a nifty space costume made of tinfoil, I'd be all go though :p
Eutrusca
10-08-2005, 16:00
I'm suspicious... If you had a nifty space costume made of tinfoil, I'd be all go though :p
Don't hold your breath, you German prevert! I know what you're after! LOL! :D
Laerod
10-08-2005, 16:03
Don't hold your breath, you German prevert! I know what you're after! LOL! :DHey! I'm only half German! :D
Daistallia 2104
10-08-2005, 16:22
Hmmm. So you did! If you're female, that's probably deserving of a lil spankie. If you're male, just KMA! ROFLMAO! :D

We've known each other a fair while and you still don't know I'm a guy? :eek:

:::boot:::
Naturality
10-08-2005, 17:44
Me too. It's another in that never-ending series of fantastic Carolina Mawnin's. Even if it rains in Carolina, it's still all good. God, I love living here! :D

Ya jus know God's gotta be a TarHeel, else why's the sky Carolina Blue? :D

It is purty :p
Freyalinia
10-08-2005, 19:50
buying land on the moon?

who says the moon even belongs to us, let alone start selling it to humans.. who would destroy it