Would abortion legislation be effective?
Super-power
10-08-2005, 00:58
Okay, so the abortion debate has flamed up again - so I offer another twist: regardless of the immorality of abortion, would legislation be effective to stop it? And if so, at what level of government?
The following is clipped from a Wikipedia entry on libertarian perspectives on abortion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_abortion):
...some doubt not the authority or morality of goverment to pass laws against abortion, but the effectiveness of such laws. Abortion laws may turn out to be futile in stopping abortion, as drug laws are allegedly futile in stopping drug use. Others fear that an abortion ban would start a "War on Abortion," parallel to the "War on Drugs" and "War on Terror...."
EDIT: I forgot to add that for the discussion, disregard Roe v. Wade
Okay, so the abortion debate has flamed up again - so I offer another twist: regardless of the immorality of abortion, would legislation be effective to stop it? And if so, at what level of government?
The legislation would have to somehow bypass the right to privacy (which is what makes abortion legal). Any legislation to be made against abortion would have to work around it. Would it stop it? probably not...it would just go underground like before
Not completely stop it, no. But vanilla murder is illegal already and that doesn't stop it from happening all the time. Would it decrease abortion to some degree? Almost certaintly--if you don't have access to abortion, you can't get one done. Would that increase crime, poverty, and overall suffering? Yeah.
Super-power
10-08-2005, 01:04
The legislation would have to somehow bypass the right to privacy (which is what makes abortion legal). Any legislation to be made against abortion would have to work around it. Would it stop it? probably not...it would just go underground like before
Ooops, I should clarify that we should disregard Roe v. Wade for the debate.
Brians Test
10-08-2005, 01:04
Your question presumes that one would think it could only be effective at EITHER the federal OR the state level.
Regardless, under our federalist system of government, unless state lines are being crossed, the enforcement powers would almost uniformily fall to the state. This is one of many reasons why abortions are properly regulated by the states, not the federal government.
Superpower07
10-08-2005, 02:15
OK, one BUMP w/my other username and that'll be it for tonight
If you mean it will stop women from getting abortions one way or another, no.
The Nazz
10-08-2005, 02:37
Okay, so the abortion debate has flamed up again - so I offer another twist: regardless of the immorality of abortion, would legislation be effective to stop it? And if so, at what level of government?
The following is clipped from a Wikipedia entry on libertarian perspectives on abortion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_abortion):
EDIT: I forgot to add that for the discussion, disregard Roe v. Wade
Legislation to stop it would be effective against the lower economic class, the people who can't afford to find a doctor who will perform the procedure and call it something else, or who can afford to leave the country and go somewhere it's legal. In short, poor people, the ones who can least afford to have an unwanted baby, would be the ones having them or undergoing unsafe, illegal abortions, while rich people would still be able to get them pretty much on demand.
Neo Rogolia
10-08-2005, 02:39
Okay, so the abortion debate has flamed up again - so I offer another twist: regardless of the immorality of abortion, would legislation be effective to stop it? And if so, at what level of government?
The following is clipped from a Wikipedia entry on libertarian perspectives on abortion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_abortion):
EDIT: I forgot to add that for the discussion, disregard Roe v. Wade
Yes, eventually the radical feminazis (I'm a woman and even I'm ashamed of them!) who scrape their own fetus out with a coat-hanger out of protest will all die from self-inflicted injuries.
Yes, eventually the radical feminazis (I'm a woman and even I'm ashamed of them!) who scrape their own fetus out with a coat-hanger out of protest will all die from self-inflicted injuries.
You know Neo Ro, one of these days you will fall in love and I would just LOVE to find out what happens after that, given human nature, espcially when you serve up tripe like this.
The Nazz
10-08-2005, 03:11
Yes, eventually the radical feminazis (I'm a woman and even I'm ashamed of them!) who scrape their own fetus out with a coat-hanger out of protest will all die from self-inflicted injuries.
You know, for someone who likes to quote scripture, you don't sound christian very often. Whatever happened to "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" or "judge not, lest ye be judged" or "remove the rafter from thine own eye before seeking to remove the straw from thy brother's?"