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Next UK election

Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 01:06
Which party do you think you want to vote for in the next uk election?

Would you vote,

Labour
conservitive
Lib. Democrat
other
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:07
i would vote labour unless the labour candidate was an a**hole
Kroisistan
09-08-2005, 01:09
Forgive the ignorant yank. Where do each of those guys stand?
Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 01:12
i would vote labour unless the labour candidate was an a**hole

now! No bad language!

I am a labour supporter even tho I am from Ireland and I cant vote in their elections!
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:17
sorry about the language i'll rephrase it.

I'll vote Labour unless the labour candidate is bad.
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:18
now! No bad language!

I am a labour supporter even tho I am from Ireland and I cant vote in their elections!


I am from ireland too
Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 01:22
I am from ireland too

What part?
Markreich
09-08-2005, 01:27
Insensible government for an insensible age!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2281610.stm

Official site: http://www.omrlp.com/
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:27
Clontarf in dublin
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:28
i see you are from dublin. what part are you from
Ying Yang Yong
09-08-2005, 01:30
Labour. I want Gary Streeter out!
Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 01:34
Are you playing with me? Me too! where?
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 01:46
Are you playing with me? Me too! where?


I live on Dully Lane.
I am smart
09-08-2005, 01:52
Dully lane? I have grown up in clontarf and never heard of Dully lane. Are you sure?
Eh-oh
09-08-2005, 01:56
I live on Dully Lane.

where the muffin man lives?
Jtnibbles
09-08-2005, 01:57
Monster raving looney party!
Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 02:00
where the muffin man lives?

LOL
Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 02:03
the guy is making places up!
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:04
Dully lane? I have grown up in clontarf and never heard of Dully lane. Are you sure?

I live on victoria Road. My parents are divorced and my mom lives in cork on dully lane. i got the addresses confused
Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 02:06
I live on victoria Road. My parents are divorced and my mom lives in cork on dully lane. i got the addresses confused

your a kid? A little young to be givin your street address away
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:07
the guy is making places up!

I am not making places up
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:08
your a kid? A little young to be givin your street address away

i am not a little kid. i am in college
Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 02:10
I am not making places up

Are u over 13 or under?
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:11
where the muffin man lives?

Do you have a problem with the muffin man being my neighbor. lol
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:12
Are u over 13 or under?

Why would i tell you my age
Thomish Empire
09-08-2005, 02:12
Oh thats fine! just next time remember to get your addresses strait! A little stainge if you live in clontarf forgot the name of your street and said a cork address! somethings fishy!
Constitutionals
09-08-2005, 02:13
Which party do you think you want to vote for in the next uk election?

Would you vote,

Labour
conservitive
Lib. Democrat
other


Labor (note the lack of the u- I'm American) ,even though Tony Blair seems terrible.
Eh-oh
09-08-2005, 02:16
Do you have a problem with the muffin man being my neighbor. lol

no... not at all... (http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/naughty/1.gif)
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:16
Oh thats fine! just next time remember to get your addresses strait! A little stainge if you live in clontarf forgot the name of your street and said a cork address! somethings fishy!

I travel back and forth between my parents. I mixed up the addresses sometimes. Nothing is fishy
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:17
you act as if you have never made a mistake
I am smart
09-08-2005, 02:18
Dear DI,

you are a little small minded and I thin you should stop while you are far behind! A little fishy is right Tomish Empire! I dont trust this DI guy
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:19
Labor (note the lack of the u- I'm American) ,even though Tony Blair seems terrible.

Tony Blair isn't terrible. i think he is a good prime minister
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:21
Dear DI,

you are a little small minded and I thin you should stop while you are far behind! A little fishy is right Tomish Empire! I dont trust this DI guy

Why can't i be trusted
The Dominickan Islands
09-08-2005, 02:28
Dear DI,

you are a little small minded and I thin you should stop while you are far behind! A little fishy is right Tomish Empire! I dont trust this DI guy

i just mixed up two addresses and everyone goes crazy. Is it forbidden to make a mistake.
Rainbirdtopia
09-08-2005, 10:02
Forgive the ignorant yank. Where do each of those guys stand?

All much and much the same.

I do not intend to vote. Instead I will rise up and break the capitalist bonds that keep me in place, down with democracy etc.

Hopefully a civil war will ensue so I can take power while everyone is subdued, muhahahaha. :p
Carops
09-08-2005, 10:20
Tony Blair isn't terrible. i think he is a good prime minister

I think you're wrong
Androis
09-08-2005, 10:29
Are u all labour? Do none of you have any sense? You are obviously ignorant of the substantial benefits of a conservative govenment. Labour is wrecking Britain, only idiots can't see it.
77Seven77
09-08-2005, 10:30
I think you're wrong

So do I!
Omicron Alpha
09-08-2005, 10:31
A few points...

1) The next General Election is years away. Things change quite dramatically in a matter of days, as demonstrated last month, so how exactly you could possibly plan who to vote for when it is years away boggles the mind. Who knows what will happen to the country and what the current government will do with the country between now and then.

2) You don't know who will be running for the next General Election, nor what their specific policies will be. You don't know, as it's years away.

3) There may even be new issues that haven't arisen yet -- you don't know, as it's years away.

The fact that people can seriously suggest who they're voting for now means that there are far too many people driven more by party loyalty than the actual issues. There's no point being loyal to anything political, as there's no such thing as 'loyalty' in politics -- they'll all screw you over first chance they get, regardless of whether they wear a red, blue or yellow rosette.
Bobzebob
09-08-2005, 10:32
Where is the UKIP option?
I want to commit the country to their terrible organisation and leadership.
77Seven77
09-08-2005, 10:33
Conservative here!
Xeropa
09-08-2005, 10:33
I thought about voting Conservative last election (*shudder*), but I couldn't bring myself to vote for Michael Howard (I was a student in the early 90s and remember him as Home Secretary *shudder again*). And my MP is ken Clarke *uncontrollable spasm*, so there was no way on earth I could vote for him. So I abstained. Again. Just like last time.

I'm torn really. I tend to agree more with Tory policy, but for different reasons - I'm conservative with a small c, they're greedy and selfish (or that's the impression I get anyway).

I really like Gordon Brown, I don't trust Tony Blair as far as I can throw him, I'm sad Claire Short and Robin Cook (may he rest in peace) aren't central to the government anymore, and there are people in New Labour who give me the creeps (Mahn-del-soooooooon. Oooooooo.)

And does anyone take the LibDems seriously? Charles Kennedy seems more naturally suited to Have I Got News For You than parliament. I want a Prime Minister who's statesman like, not chummy. At least TB has that going for him.
Xeropa
09-08-2005, 10:35
Quick thought - shouldn't we all be innoculated against TB now?
Carops
09-08-2005, 10:40
I thought about voting Conservative last election (*shudder*), but I couldn't bring myself to vote for Michael Howard (I was a student in the early 90s and remember him as Home Secretary *shudder again*). And my MP is ken Clarke *uncontrollable spasm*, so there was no way on earth I could vote for him. So I abstained. Again. Just like last time.

I'm torn really. I tend to agree more with Tory policy, but for different reasons - I'm conservative with a small c, they're greedy and selfish (or that's the impression I get anyway).

I really like Gordon Brown, I don't trust Tony Blair as far as I can throw him, I'm sad Claire Short and Robin Cook (may he rest in peace) aren't central to the government anymore, and there are people in New Labour who give me the creeps (Mahn-del-soooooooon. Oooooooo.)

And does anyone take the LibDems seriously? Charles Kennedy seems more naturally suited to Have I Got News For You than parliament. I want a Prime Minister who's statesman like, not chummy. At least TB has that going for him.

Maybe you should give the conservatives a go. Ive been a member now for a while and even I though Michael Howard was a little creepy. We could do with a new generation of figures to replace the elderly, obese ranks of the parliamentary conservative party with someone likeable.
Not too keen on the New Labour approach (ie. lying) and I have no time for Comrade Brown and his stealth taxes. I am slightly worried that when Brown takes control, we may see more hard-line socialism and less time-wasting, something I would love to prevent.
As for the LibDems, well there really isn't that much to say. They have an identity crisis which means that they don't really have a clue about themselves. Charles Kennedy, when sober, has steered them too far to the left to gain real popular support. That is why no one really takes them seriously. Some of their policies are a little silly. Sorry... im waffling.
Omicron Alpha
09-08-2005, 10:42
Not too keen on the New Labour approach (ie. lying)

I think you'll find that's just a general politician's approach, it's just that New Labour aren't very good at it so they get caught.
Carops
09-08-2005, 10:45
I think you'll find that's just a general politician's approach, it's just that New Labour aren't very good at it so they get caught.

Fair point. They are all liars in the end. But New Labour have lowered the tone slightly more.
77Seven77
09-08-2005, 10:45
That is 1/2 the problem none of the leaders of any of the parties particually make me want to vote for them, none of them have any spark or any balls.
Sizjam
09-08-2005, 10:48
I think you'll find that's just a general politician's approach, it's just that New Labour aren't very good at it so they get caught.

do we really need more inept people in power? :p
Xeropa
09-08-2005, 10:58
Fair point. They are all liars in the end. But New Labour have lowered the tone slightly more.

To be fair, no-one could lower the tone below that of the last Tory government. One word captures that government for me more than any other - sleaze. Hence my incapability to vote for Howard, Clarke et al.
Over zealous Penguins
09-08-2005, 11:02
Yay Carops, I'm a Conservative member too. Now to get off the internet and back to looking forwards to the average of a £22000 debt for the average student doing a 3 year course, and I want to do a 4 year one! Good ol' Labour!
Carops
09-08-2005, 11:02
To be fair, no-one could lower the tone below that of the last Tory government. One word captures that government for me more than any other - sleaze. Hence my incapability to vote for Howard, Clarke et al.

I don't know... I think Blair did drop just slightly below them after the David Kelly affair and when it emerged that he'd lied to us over Iraq, which we didn't need to be told really. Although the last conservative government was quite poor, I think Blair is worse.
Occhia
09-08-2005, 11:12
I'm a Labour member, but, depending on where I live, I'll probably vote Liberal. Note that's Liberal, not Lib Dem. Apart from being anti-european and a few minor gripes, they're my kind of party.

In reply to the conservative party spokesman before; the last thing we need is a conservative government. More immigrants, please.
Rainbirdtopia
09-08-2005, 11:29
More immigrants?

You are havin a laugh.
:headbang:
77Seven77
09-08-2005, 11:34
More immigrants, are you insane? Have they let you on the PC for 1/2 an hour from your asylum? :eek:
DHomme
09-08-2005, 11:35
I'd spoil my ballot

edit: the above few posters should check out http://worldrevolution.org.uk/index.php?id=22,49,0,0,1,0
77Seven77
09-08-2005, 11:41
"edit: the above few posters should check out http://worldrevolution.org.uk/index...d=22,49,0,0,1,0 "

Mushy, fecked up Liberal, socialist bullcrap ....
DHomme
09-08-2005, 11:42
"edit: the above few posters should check out http://worldrevolution.org.uk/index...d=22,49,0,0,1,0 "

Mushy, fecked up Liberal, socialist bullcrap ....

Nice debating skills there.

Oh, and don't call me a liberal.
Omicron Alpha
09-08-2005, 11:45
More immigrants, please.

I've got a better idea -- train a more diverse workforce so we don't have to rely on immigrants to fill vacant positions.
77Seven77
09-08-2005, 11:48
Nice debating skills there.

Oh, and don't call me a liberal.

I was not debating I was speaking the truth and I also think you will find that I did not call YOU liberal ....
New Burmesia
09-08-2005, 11:49
Next one is the first i'll be able to vote in, so I'd better do it...

If there's a candidate from one of the socialist parties i'd vote for them (unless it's Respect, I don't trust the SWP that much...) but that's pretty unlikely where I live. So i'd vote Lib Dem as the lesser of two evils, since I support their plans for electoral reform that could give us non labour/tory supporters a chance...

Although it's a bit too soon to guess, I think New Labour will win again with a different leader. Unfortunately there's no real opposition since they've cleverly managed to become a conservative party to attract middle-class voters whilst pretending to be centre-left. Interesting, I think...[/B.S. :rolleyes: ]
New Burmesia
09-08-2005, 11:50
"edit: the above few posters should check out http://worldrevolution.org.uk/index...d=22,49,0,0,1,0 "

Mushy, fecked up Liberal, socialist bullcrap ....

:D Wow, passions already fly for the 2009/2010 election!
DHomme
09-08-2005, 11:50
I was not debating I was speaking the truth and I also think you will find that I did not call YOU liberal ....

You weren't speaking the truth. You looked at the claims and then dismissed them without a decent argument purely because you didn't want your own beliefs challenged
ChuChulainn
09-08-2005, 11:51
Yay Carops, I'm a Conservative member too. Now to get off the internet and back to looking forwards to the average of a £22000 debt for the average student doing a 3 year course, and I want to do a 4 year one! Good ol' Labour!

Woohoo i can beat that with 5 years of debt building
New Burmesia
09-08-2005, 11:56
Woohoo i can beat that with 5 years of debt building

Us doing medicine may have to do six years of New Labour Slave Labour...
Laerod
09-08-2005, 11:57
Damn. This thread has my Election Time thread licked... I guess I shouldn't have posted any background info on the parties...
77Seven77
09-08-2005, 12:07
"You weren't speaking the truth. You looked at the claims and then dismissed them without a decent argument purely because you didn't want your own beliefs challenged"

And obviously you don't want your beliefs challanged either!
Compulsive Depression
09-08-2005, 12:07
As of the last election all the parties were rubbish, and labour was most rubbish. After a lot of careful research I voted for the one I disagreed with least and made not one iota of difference to anything. I imagine the next election will be similarly beneficial.
Ha, yes, well, if it made a difference it would be banned...

Why does everybody hate immigrants so much? Is it just the fnordy-xenophobia in the papers?
Carops
09-08-2005, 19:40
As of the last election all the parties were rubbish, and labour was most rubbish. After a lot of careful research I voted for the one I disagreed with least and made not one iota of difference to anything. I imagine the next election will be similarly beneficial.
Ha, yes, well, if it made a difference it would be banned...

Why does everybody hate immigrants so much? Is it just the fnordy-xenophobia in the papers?

I don't think people hate immigrants in general. I certainly don't. But I think recent events, combined with the fact that some feel their own culture is disappearing and being replaced has lead to some fearing them more than anything. The Conservatives spoke of "controlled immigration" which is quite a sensible idea, and is nothing racist or xenophobic. It tries to combat the open borders problem. The government really hasnt been able to sort out the immigration situation properly, and as a result people can be smuggled in and this leads to suffering on all sides. Some papers, such as the Daily Mail can be rather xenophobic, but what they actually say makes a lot of sense. It is not blind, stupid ignorance, but balanced and well researched opinion. Labours current policies of political correctness have caused a situation where people are now more xenophobic than ever before and it has created tensions where there were none before.
Rainbirdtopia
10-08-2005, 11:21
I don't think people hate immigrants in general. I certainly don't. But I think recent events, combined with the fact that some feel their own culture is disappearing and being replaced has lead to some fearing them more than anything. The Conservatives spoke of "controlled immigration" which is quite a sensible idea, and is nothing racist or xenophobic. It tries to combat the open borders problem. The government really hasnt been able to sort out the immigration situation properly, and as a result people can be smuggled in and this leads to suffering on all sides. Some papers, such as the Daily Mail can be rather xenophobic, but what they actually say makes a lot of sense. It is not blind, stupid ignorance, but balanced and well researched opinion. Labours current policies of political correctness have caused a situation where people are now more xenophobic than ever before and it has created tensions where there were none before.

You are correct.

But thats not anywhere near enough! We should build a wall around the UK over 100ft tall with bricks, yes lots of bricks. Then if anyone tries to get in we open a door which says 'come in' but really it leads to a cage and is attached to a helicopter which flies the immigrants either onto a huge barge or back to where they came from, excellent!